Why isn't diet and exercise just another example of patriarchy? Shouldn't men just be attracted to morbidly obese women if that's who they are?

[Anonymous]

If you love someone you should just love someone unconditionally, regardless if they can't leave the house because they don't fit through the front door.

I don't care if they were a size 4 when you dated them for 3 years and then the year you got married they were a size 40.
You love someone for who they are, not just because they are pretty to look at, right?

The current ideal that is slapped all over billboards and fashion mags is thinner than is healthy. What the "privileged white man choose to control is women's bodies – shaping them as closely as they can to the skinny beauty ideal – however ugly it actually is. Meanwhile, when women become obsessed with food (trying not to eat) they don’t have the time or energy to be powerful in the world in any way. Because going to the gym, eating healthy and then getting a good job is impossible and nobody has ever done it.

And i thought the idea was “It’s all about embracing your body, your body type… you just have to be confident with yourself and be proud of your body.”
Why does this not apply to skinny women as well as obese?

Yes, this bleeds with sarcasm.

[Jensen_the_Hunter]

I get this is supposed to be funny and all, but society telling girls to change themselves just to please men is an example of patriarchy. Dieting and exercising for yourself, however, if its what you want to do regardless of what society wants, that's your own choice and its great! Shaming someone, whether its for being large or skinny, isn't okay, even if it does make them unhealthy. There are better ways to show concern for someone's health.

[Asker]

I agree, and men shouldn't shower, shave and get a job to please women either.
Perhaps society isn't telling either of them to do that just because of the opposite sex, but because its in your best interest?

[Asker]

Nah you're right, women should be fat and men should be lazy and run as soon as there's a baby around.
Because both of them are what society tells us to do in order to please each other.

[Jensen_the_Hunter]

Society (a collective culture) is created by the masses over a long period of history. When you look at history, you can clearly see people barely ever do anything for people's best interests. Especially when it comes to telling people they think are lesser how to act and think. People should do what's in their best interest, but its not okay to think they should because it happens to coincide with what you want. If society decided that obese women were most attractive, and pressured women to be unhealthy, would you still defend it? It wouldn't be in people's best interest then, but people would still be slapping it all over billboards and mags.

[evenlift]

So society telling guys to change themselves just to please women is an example of matriarchy, right?

[Jensen_the_Hunter]

It's terrible, but it wouldn't be a matriarchy until we have 1000+ years of the other sex bending over backwards for us and a sense of entitlement for them to do what we want.

[Jensen_the_Hunter]

A++ sarcasm though. I do agree with the no one should be making themselves unhealthy (whether obese or anorexic) or blaming the patriarchy for stuff that's unaccepted but completely unrelated to their sex.

[EyeSeaYew]

At first I was like:

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6394829056/hAE1AAECD/

Are you serious?
xD

[Asker]

Pay attention to the last sentence.

[EyeSeaYew]

Oh no I wasn't actually asking you if are serious, I was just saying that before I read your last sentence that's what I was wondering

[Sex_Panther]

Isn't how you take care of your body a reflection of who you are, though? Self-neglect, etc.

[Asker]

Being skinny isn't a reflection of who you are, its a reflection of male empowerment and female oppression.

[Sex_Panther]

Oh. Well... so being fat is female empowerment?

[Asker]

You should want a REAL woman, you know, the real fat lazy ones who don't shave their legs or their armpits because that's patriarchy as well.
Men dont shave their armpits or legs, so why should women. Its about equality.

[Sex_Panther]

Well, men aren't as fat as women though so wouldn't it be fair to expect about the same size?

[Asker]

I would say being fat is about going against the current patriarchal ideal, which is being skinny.
So hats off to the woman who stands up in protest by being morbidly obese and hairy.
So the answer is YES its female empowerment to be fat.

[Asker]

Women like men for who they are, and we dont care what you look like.
So neither should you.

[Sex_Panther]

Well, okay. I mean it makes sense. DOWN WITH MEN! Up with DAT BIG O' BOOTEH! :D

[Sex_Panther]

Maybe you're right. Maybe I should like women for who they are. ... Who are they?

[Asker]

Were beautiful creatures completely incapable of doing anything wrong.
Sugar and spice and everything nice.
While men are made of slugs and snails And puppy-dogs' tails.

But really theyre all just pigs who only care about sex.

[Sex_Panther]

It's true. I care about sex. I don't care about you or your feelings or whatever that thing you want is. I only do it with you so you will bend over later. To be honest it's a fair trade. This is the true patriarchy.

[Asker]

Thats right, the only reason you care when your wife gets run over by a car is because the easy access to sex will stop.
And if your kids die with her, so be it, they aren't providing you with sex, (because that's gross and immoral) so time to be indifferent about their death.
Because all men are heartless pigs and care about ONE thing.

[Sex_Panther]

Yes. Mashed potatoes. That is actually what we really care about. A vagina is just a socially acceptable bowl of mashed potatoes that never dries up and is completely willing and renewable at any time.

[HeatherJaney]

Someone will start with the thin privilege shit soon.

[ImCoasting]

This is an obvious troll lol

[Asker]

Of course it is.
thats why i said it was sarcasm.

[Anonymous]

LOL. Good point. Funny too.