Do "fat shamers" actually care about a fat person's health?

[RainbowFanGirl]

Or are they just bullying the person? When you"fat shame" (and I use the term lightly), are you actually concerned about that person's wellbeing? Or does their existence offend you? Just curious..

When I was fat, I was bullied constantly, and I really just wanted to go die. I'm just curious if you are actually concerned for them, or if you are just doing it to be rude.

Yes, they care about a person's health.

No, they are just being mean.

They care to an extent.

[Anonymous]

I had this more than fat girl who snapped at us for eating mcdonalds around her saying that the smell is ruining her will to diet. Thing is she just started to diet recently and until then she had no issue eating all kinds of crappy fast food junk without even caring to ask if it bothers us. Then when she started "dieting", everybody around was warned to stop eating junk food around her on a not very friendly tone.
So: i'm not laughing at fat people. They have an issue/problem, but the moment they just sit their ass and blame others for their situation and get to the point of restricting others from eating certain things around them instead of taking control of their fucking life and eating habits, then yes i will consider you a weak unworthy human beeing
Plus... i noticed that fat people think they have special rights or something.
In the underground this old woman about 80 or even more got on. She clearly looked around for a seat as the train started moving. She was right in front of these 3 fat girls that were sitting down. None stood up to let the poor old woman sit.
Walking behind fat lady. Eating some junk food of course. Threw the wrap on the ground though the bin was 2 meters away.
Was in a crowded bus in a hot summer day.
This guy was sweating a lot. It was more than just the heat that was making him sweat. Was embracing the bar trying to hold on while this fat lady sitting down right next to him was looking at him in disgust for some reason. Then suddenly the man loses conscience for a few moments and falls to the ground. I help him back to his feet. He grabs onto the bar again. When the guy passed out he almost fell on the fat lady, so she was making these sounds "oh, oh my..". I was thinking "Bitch shut the fuck up and get your ass off that seat. This man just passed out and needs to sit down". On the seat right behind her was this young woman, 23 or so, with a baby in her arms. She stood up to let the man sit down.
How am i supposed to feel sorry for these fat people. Sure they are just some examples and i will not generalize under any circumstances, but these fat individuals i gave you as an example don't exist to me and i will have no mercy for them at all... Some take being fat as an excuse of them being assholes and expect others around them to accept any kind of shitty behaviour. "Oh i'm fat... i can be rude and impolite"

[RainbowFanGirl]

I know what you mean. Not all fat people are like this however.

[dogbert444]

It's when you lose a close family member to a heart attack while in their 50's that it makes you care a lot more about overweight people's health. It's what made me lose 30 lbs over the 6 months from August 2014. Not that I was very overweight. I just want to be where I should be. Now I'm very conscious about others. I wish all overweight people could get down to a healthy weight. Fad diets don't work long term. It takes a change in eating habits and an increase in exercising. Not easy, sometimes, but it's possible.

[GirlsLie]

It sounds like you actually care and have good intentions though, that's not "fat" shaming in itself. I don't think even offering to help when someone asks or offering advice is. It's just that a lot of people say really rude things about over and under weight people and then justify it with "caring about their health".

I watched my grandmother die from lung cancer so of course when someone says they shouldn't be smoking, I will offer advice or tell them yes they shouldn't. There's a difference between actually caring about someone because you know what they're doing to themselves could create a future horrible situation for them instead of making rude comments, judgments and being down right arrogant just because you don't have the issues they have.

[EricaM]

I have been on both ends of the spectrum. I have been obese and am now at a healthy weight. And I have received more hate from fat people about being fit than all the shit I got for being obese, and it was a lot of shit. Obesity is an epidemic in this country and come 2050, 2 out of 3 American will be obese. Not "fat" or "chunky" or overweight, but "obese". Obesity is the worst state for a woman to be pregnant in, and is more adverse for a pregnancy than a womans age. A 46 year old woman who is pregnant will have a healthier pregnancy than a 21 year old obese woman, who faces several health challenges such increased risk of stillbirth, eclampsia and pre-eclampsia, which will kill a woman, even if managed. Obesity brings over 60 immediate and long term health problems for people, including heart disease.

There is no excuse for being obese, it is very rare in America, especially now for people to claim that their thyroid makes them obese. People need to own up to their shitty eating habits and take control.

Again, I have received more negative comments about being at a healthy weight than I did being obese.

[BellePepper]

When you talk to one long enough they'll eventually get around to admiting that they don't care about a person's health at all. It has more to do with them not finding heavier people attractive or desirable so they think it's okay to shame other people.

At it's root, fat shamming is a classist issue. Poor people don't have time to cook. They don't have the money, time, or energy to shop for good food. They're also far, far more likely to live in food deserts. This country subsidizes wheat and corn not the meat and vegetables that fill people up and allow them to eat healthy.

There have also been multiple studies that prove accepting people and encouraging them is much more effective at helping people lose weight than constant shame and guilt.

If fat shamers *really* cared about people's health those are the issues they would talk about. They wouldn't rage endlessly about how "disgusting" and "lazy" fat people are. They would look at the issues and say "how can we help these people?"

[Hannah591]

What do you consider fat shaming because nowadays, saying you like thin women or informing someone they're unhealthily overweight in a polite way is fat shaming?

If someone outright insults you based on weight, calling you a whale or something, they don't care about your health, they're just being nasty.
If they say you're overweight in a concerning way, then they're concerned about you. It's not shaming if you're letting them know because some people genuinely don't realise how much weight they've gained until it's too late.

[RainbowFanGirl]

I didn't really mean "fat shaming". I meant something else because I have trouble thinking of words to use.

When I was fat, I knew I was fat, and I didn't need anyone telling me that because I got told that every day when I was bullied. I just didn't have any motivation back then to lose weight because I was depressed and used food as an outlet.

I mean, if someone was actually concerned for me and my health I wouldn't dismiss them or get offended because they were actually trying to help me, which is very kind of them. But those people didn't want to help me, they just wanted to wreak my mood and make me feel even shittier.

What I was trying to say if you want to help someone, there's a kinder way to do so than just trying to make them feel even worse than they already feel.

[Hannah591]

If they're making you feel worse, it's probably that they don't care and are bullying you but I know there are fat people who take offence to literally anything and saying politely they need to lose weight will make them kick off and offend them so we can't win.

[RainbowFanGirl]

I know there are. Most importantly, it takes personal will to lose weight and it is their decision alone. If someone is concerned for their health that's good, but you need willpower, which they can only get from themselves.

[CityBoy773]

Society tells people it's fine to do so, so if anything it's semi normal. I care about peoples health, but I won't be disrespectful about it.

And by society tells people it's fines, I mean society puts up the always skinny people, then barely any (if any at all) larger people. Then if they do, it's for comedy sake in the commercial and not really any care.

If anything, they're just disrespectful dicks who think beings assholes works.

[RainbowFanGirl]

Yes. They don't really care, do they?

[CityBoy773]

Highly doubt it, otherwise they'd be respectful about it.

[xXiTacoXx]

Lets be honest here, they don't care a bit. If they did instead of just shaming bigger people they'd do something encouraging to help. Like be their work out buddy and make sure they get up and work out until the bigger peeps are willing and able to do it on their own.

[fauchelevent]

They don't. Pretty sure that evidence shows that fat shaming actually doesn't help someone lose weight at all, but can make them gain weight through linking it to things like mental illness and poor self esteem. Someone who cares doesn't make the problem worse by being cruel. They think they care, but I don't thin that they actually do.

[CottonMuffin]

I believe a lot of people who ''fat shame'' want to believe they care , but they really don't.
If you'd care, you'd sit down with that person and have a serious conversation , giving advice and so on.

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[Mesonfielde]

I actually think they know perfectly well that they don't care beyond having the excuse to bully someone, and thus make themselves feel superior.

[Kimmy88]

Lol I’ve done the serious conversation thing and it goes no where. It’s usually met with, “my doctor sucks and fat shamed me. Veggies and tofu taste nasty! Fried food good! Fast food good! Junk food good! YOLO!”

[Hopefuldreamer8]

I think most people just use health as an excuse. They don't want to seem like their being rude, so they just bring up health. I think they are just being mean about the persons appearance. People can be judgmental about a persons appearance. I have an ugly face, and people tell me all the time. I'd like to know their excuse behind that one.

[Hidden_P]

No they don't give a shit.
They are bullies, selfish, ignorant, stupid, or just plain blind. Take your pick.

I don't care who pipes up, the MAJORITY don't care at all and just want to make themselves feel better. There are some who care. But most are just twats. Like most bullies.

[Anonymous]

No, I think majority don't really care about a person's health. It's easy to say mean things to someone, it's another to give helpful critiques. Shaming someone degrades them, makes them feel humiliated and brings them down. A caring person wouldn't do that.

[Mesonfielde]

Nah, I'm pretty sure they are just being rude for the sake of being rude.

[RainbowFanGirl]

Yeah, I agree.

[Prof_Don]

Most of those people delude themselves into THINKING they care, but in reality they don't.

[ElissaDido]

I don't think they do. We all know someone fat , or we've already been fat at some point of our lives, we shouldn't exclude them and make them feel like they aren't worthy, if you really care you should talk more respectfully!

[GirlsLie]

How can you legitimately care about someone's health but not care their feelings.

I don't buy that excuse when they use it, I think it's just a cover up to put other people down.

[zell0is0my0name]

I genuinely care about their health, being fat isn't healthy, I encourage people to lose fat and live a healthy life style. I can't be mean to people just because of their weight. They don't deserve that :)

[Hollywood-Glam]

For the most part, they don't. If they're doing something like caring they won't bother bullying the fat person.

[RainbowFanGirl]

Yeah they wouldn't be mean if they cared.

[JustinCaseUDontKnow]

No, they like to be mean and don't care who they hurt that's why do it ,

[JustinCaseUDontKnow]

One thing i learn in life you can't run from your bullies, i take charge of them
let them fat shame me cause karma will be their maker i promise them and
yes i was called names and made fun of but people all my life and my family
members who talked shit on me had strokes and some are dead from cancer
so yes karma is bitch

[allahu_snackbar]

I just think it doesn't have to be that way and for the majority of fat people it's just a lack of self control and a myriad of excuses, some of the girls could be quite hot if they just put the fork down.

[RainbowFanGirl]

It wasn't that simple... For me at least. I had a legit eating disorder that made it hard to stop. But you're right. I hate when fat people complain about their condition instead of going to get help with it like I did.

[allahu_snackbar]

I can only commend you for doing something about it!

[RainbowFanGirl]

Haha thanks. Love your username by the way

[allahu_snackbar]

:D :D

[vishna]

No, why else would they try to ruin someone's self confidence which can lead to even worse issues than being overweight?

[RainbowFanGirl]

Because they're stupid. :(

[vishna]

I agree. It's terrible.

[Anonymous]

They care to a extent. Some really do want people to have better, healthier, lives and hope that their criticism will be motivational. Then there are some who are just mean and trying to bring people down.

[RainbowFanGirl]

I agree with you

[TheGeorge]

I only care about people close to me. I'm not fat shaming anyone but I often think to myself that they are living an unhealthy lifestyle. I don't care however.

[JCT666]

Usually, no. They're just trying to make themselves feel better.