As long as those women aren't my wife, then their data can shine light on any lingering doubts of long term effects better.
To get the vaccine or not to isn't a big concern here. I don't get why they didn't separate their vaccine list/line voluntarily between those who have already had Covid, and those who have not.
I think if it was for the safety of America/your country/the world, and voluntary, most people would have shared their positive test results so other people could go ahead of them in line. That would have simplified logistics, distribution, and getting this out as a large chunk of the population has had it already, and the biggest chunks are fairly well concentrated, 5 states account for 75% of outbreaks. 10% of the population has caught it already from positive test results.
The anti-bodies can still be tested for if I'm not mistaken, and many people who got sick did not get tested or go to a doc, because it contradicted the point of masks and lockdowns unless they had complications. So figure filter them out, let anyone who doesn't feel they have to take it, or has had it already get tested for anti-bodies.
Use that for help in plasma treatments for current patients, make the targeted vaccine roll-out faster, and try to not administer it to kids (infants, toddlers, k-3) or pregnant women until we know more. We don't know what the herd immunity threshold is, CDC says as much. That measure could be enough to reach it. Could be that age for kids has to keep going down, but they should be last along with pregnant women for the complications reason, and that kids have the lowest mortality rate.
We're doing this whole let people suffer to potentially save one life thing, those lives are the elderly, pre-existing, and the obese. Targeted roll-out. I think most people who are "anti-vax" on this are more skeptical because of how many balls have been dropped, conflicting information from the same information sources, CDC, WHO, Fauci. Along with any doctor or politician who has concerns being silenced.
It doesn't instill a great deal of confidence. I felt optimistic and had little reservations before the flip flopping, besides, what's the worse that happens, gulf war syndrome?
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To me it is very scary for anyone to get the "vaccine" for the Wuhan virus. All other vaccines use aborted fetal tissue to generate the given vaccine. Morally I have a problem with that issue alone. In regards to the Wuhan "vaccine," it's actually not a vaccine in the traditional sense. The "vaccine" is actually gene therapy using mRNA from animals. In one animal trial, specifically ferrets, all of the animals died; every single one, but they pushed the therapy forward because everyone was so scared.
In related information, the Wuhan virus (or the Corona-19) has an over ninety-nine percent survival rate. First off let me say that anyone who has died from the Wuhan virus is a true loss and by no means am I taking anything away from that single death, let alone all those who have died. Sure there have been people who have died after becoming infected with Wuhan, but every single person who had the virus and died, they had an underlying health issue. Just as an example, my mother was a long time chain smoker, very overweight and very unhealthy. She stopped smoking last year and she came down with the Wuhan, yet she got better. Sure there are people who have died with the Wuhan but how many of those people just had the virus, yet they still passed away? Was this confirmed with an autopsy?
However, there have been nearly three-thousand people who have died here in the USA, after receiving the Wuhan gene-therapy, and over ten-thousand people in the UK have died after the gene therapy shot.
Should mothers receive the gene-therapy to stop the Wuhan virus? To me, there is ZERO reason to even take the chance in causing the miscarriage of the child, why even take an unneeded risk? There is none.
The science so far, since it’s a new thing, suggests pregnant woman are more likely to jeopardize their pregnancy and their lives with the corona virus affecting them in their vulnerable state, than they are to suffer in themselves or by their child proxy by getting the vaccine. And as far as I know; there is not a single case of reported health problems with pregnant woman who get the vaccine but many pregnant woman with CoVid end up in danger at the icu unit because their pregnancy puts them at higher risk of dying from the virus. I also think it’s a personal decision and outsiders should not judge their choices because having a baby without a pandemic is already very hard.
I was asked several times before getting my corona vaccine if I was pregnant or if there was a chance I could be pregnant. They clearly told me if I were pregnant I could not get the vaccine.
Also my friend who recently got birth wasn't allowed to get the vaccine until after she gave birth, while her husband got it last month.
She will get her shot probably in July since she is nursing the baby and doesn't wanna risk anything.
I think that the rest of the population should definitely get vaccinated exactly for this reason. To protect those who can't get vaccinated.
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Advice if you're of childbearing age, pregnant or breastfeeding
If you're pregnant, you should be offered the COVID-19 vaccine when you're eligible for it.
It's preferable for you to have the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine because they've been more widely used during pregnancy in other countries and have not caused any safety issues.
You can also have the COVID-19 vaccine if you're breastfeeding.
Speak to a healthcare professional before you have the vaccination. They will discuss the benefits and risks with you.
There's no evidence that the COVID-19 vaccine has any effect on your chances of becoming pregnant. There's no need to avoid pregnancy after vaccination.
The vaccine cannot give you or your baby COVID-19.
all i would say is the best thing for any pregnant woman is to check with their doctorIdiots. The guidelines in the UK mention that pregnant women shouldn’t have the vaccine.
People have gone insane. There are two extremes: on one hand you have the anti-vaxxers who say that all vaccines are bad no matter what, regardless of the evidence. On the other you have pro-vaxxers who say that all vaccines are good, no matter what, regardless of the evidence. As if there’s absolutely never any risk at all.
I’ve seen a number of posts from those who went against that advice virtue signalling about how they got their vaccine and that they’re fine, and a few days later they post about how they had a miscarriage. Even worse for the “listen to medical professionals” folks, many of these were doctors and nurses.Let me put it this way: I wouldn't want any pregnant women in my life taking the vaccine unless they absolutely had to. I think that many people can take the vaccine without immediate incident (those longer term side effects are what concern me). My only real issue with jabbing pregnant women with this stuff is that the women need to understand that they are participating in a science experiment. I doubt that these risks are being explained.
The U. K. Government has documented a 550% increase in miscarriages in women who were pregnant at the time of vaccination. It has not been determined if the pharmaceutically active compounds of the vaccine enter nursing mothers' breast milk. There's a reason these vaccines are insanely and rigorously tested tested for years before we give them to people.I am not a female (obviously) and my girlfriend is post-menopausal. I have no children or grandchildren. I have no younger friends who are pregnant. So, I really have not considered this matter at all.
If I had a pregnant wife, I would probably be more concerned about her getting the vaccination than about getting covid.According to the CDC, there is no evidence that the vaccine has any effect on a fetus, placenta, or anything else, so it's fine to get a vaccine if you're pregnant. Still, that's only a cursory glance from a single source. Were it me, I'd do some independent research from multiple reputable sources in a few different countries and see if everyone is on the same page with that claim. Better safe than sorry.
If multiple reputable sources back up that claim, then I'd agree with the experts. If there is disagreement among them, then I wouldn't.Pregnant women should talk to their doctor about it. Is it more dangerous to get Covid while pregnant or is the vaccine more dangerous? I would go with what the experts tell me.
I always got my flu shot when I was pregnant. I wanted me and my babies to be protected from influenza in the first vulnerable months of their lives.I feel it's their health and that of their unborn child so it's their choice and their decision and not my business...
We have a right to make decisions for our lives and that of our family, our children, not for others... I get prior want to feel safe/be safe but what makes one safe, someone else may see as a risk to their safety...It's amazing that when you watch television commercials for new medications, half of it is a list of all the possible side-effects one could experience, yet somehow no side-effects are ever mentioned for this vaccine that had to be rushed to the public. I note the word 'rushed'. Are we to believe that this is the first medication in history that has no side-effects... at all... for anyone regardless of personal situation i. e. pregnant, undergoing cancer treatments, interactions with other medications and on. I don't get how anyone could be so confident in big pharma considering everything that's happened over the last like two years.
And if you're in the US, would you trust anything the current presidency is promoting?We had like 20 pregnant women getting the virus real bad. One of them died with her unborn fetus. So when you're imagining the evil things about the vaccines (those that aren't being recalled by governments due to actual data) - consider the alternative. Pregnant women who refuse the vaccine are putting themselves, their babies and their environments in danger. All you oxygen wasting disease spreading vermine can go kill yourselves for all I care, I won't be responding to your conspiracy theories. Your parents should be punished for failing with your education so miserably.
Well, first of all. Pregnant woman exist during the pandemic. That's fact.
Now what do we do with that?
Are babies safe while in the mother womb while they are getting it?
There might be not much we know about it yet but I will say that a safe way could simply be waiting until the child is born, then getting the vaccine after thatIts ridiculous considering they haven't done full studies on what it could do to the baby. I'm pregnant and they recommend me to get it but I will definitely not be getting it.
If you want to talk about science/data/facts, the fact is that in a recent study of 823 pregnant woman who were predicted to have a successful delivery and took the vaccine, 13.9% of them had “spontaneous abortion”.
I’m not saying 13.9% of pregnant ladies who take the vaccine will miscarry, I’m just saying that’s what the data says.Reports show that babies born after the vaccine was administered to their mother during the third trimester have been born producing covid antibodies by themselves.
Generally I'd say that's a good thing. It contributes to creating herd immunity and building a stronger community in general.Hell no, I’m a single male and I won’t get the vaccine. It was rushed through production, it was rushed through testing, and I do not trust the government as far as I can throw it. Look online for the list of experiments the US has clandestinely conducted on its own citizens.
It isn't so much about how I feel, but what does the medical community say about it. Since I am not pregnant and not getting pregnant I didn't spend time listening about this subject however it seems it is OK for pregnant women to get the shot.
Usually when a pregeant woman smokes or does some kind of drugs she is labled a monster for putting an unborn child at risk.
But getting an untested drug shot into your arm because everyone is doing it is and shouldn't have any risksAs long as the vaccine is safe for pregnancy it doesn’t really matter. I’m sure a few of them aren’t good but I don’t know the ins and outs of each different one
And people thought having kids with your siblings was bad... the kid coming out of that woman is gonna look a bit funny I’d assume. Or have a name like Elon musks kid. Dunno but I don’t think it’s a good idea, as the vaccine is underdeveloped.
Our babies are too important to risk just because of what some scientists say.
To each his own. That’s how I feel about it. If someone want themelves (and their baby) to be guinea pigs then let them. That’s how I feel about it. Nobody is forcing pregnant (or non pregnant) people to get the vaccine, that’s entirely their own choice and so if they or their baby suffer consequences because of the vaccine, now or in the future, that’s on them.
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