Trust me I'm not against Vaccinations... I get the flu shot every Winter time but you hear so much about the Covid Vaccination... A 21-year-old male took the Pfizer Covid Vaccination and ended in the Hospital with inflammation around his heart than this guy died with a body full of blood clots after he took the Johnson & Johnson the only one that seems safe is the Moderna's vaccine so who knows
Sooner or later a variant will arise with a scary mortality rate. We can only hope they can churn out vaccines to keep up. As for anti vaxxers I feel more sorry for the gullible people they convince with their pseudo logic.
Do you feel sorry about all the "gullible" desperate blues on here that drool over your fake photo thinking you are a pink-female? What a hypocrite you are.
The only time I think I've ever not felt sorry for anyone for getting injured (not killed) was someone who did a dine-and-dash at a restaurant where I was eating. He bolted out the door, ran into the street without looking, and got hit by a car. I called 911, went out to see if I could help. Should have held my tongue but couldn't resist saying "karma is a bitch, that's what you getting for trying to skip out without paying." He lived.
@ArrowheadSW I'm a funeral home owner/operator. I also handle simple removals after hours so I don't have to call anyone in since I live in an apartment over the funeral home.
The psychiatric implications of this post are disturbing. Do you have empathy for the people who did get vaccinated, but died anyway? Or is it just one of those cases where you really don't give a damn about anyone, but you'll use a certain group to make a point?
I am not an anti vaxxer (I believe in polio, MMR etc vaccines) and I actually took the covid19 vaccine albeit reluctantly. It is definitely an experimental vaccine and there have been fewer studies than with the above-mentioned vaccines. Also there’s the novelty of mrna vaccines. I took the vaccine only because eventually they will make it compulsory if I want to go to restaurants, work etc.
"All vaccines follow the same testing processes, whether they are approved for emergency use or through a typical license.
Clinical trials are conducted in three phases.
In Phase 1, the vaccine is given to a small number of generally healthy people to assess its safety and effectiveness. In Phase 2, the vaccine is given to hundreds of people with different health conditions and from diverse demographic groups. In Phase 3, the vaccine is administered to thousands of people across demographic groups and immune responses are compared against placebos, which are doses that don’t contain any of the vaccine and are used for testing purposes only."
Thanks for the visual aid. However the duration of the test is by definition shorter for emergency use authorisation. This might miss some long-term effects in small populations eg women undergoing fertility treatment. Also as an ethnic minority I’m concerned about my proportionally small representation in the phase 3 trial.
How could you possibly “rigorously test” a drug’s effects at say, 1 year later, if your test ran for 6 months? They have a 1-year standard for phase 3 trials (for non emergency approval) for a reason. I don’t know the reason but I’m sure they didn’t pick it arbitrarily. Another suspicious issue is how quickly scientific peer review was completed. As a researcher myself (PhD in electronics, dissertation on semiconductor physics unfortunately, not biochemistry) I’m used to waiting around for a year just to get all referee reports. And things move fast in the field of semiconductors.
Did anyone who every caught any disease bring it on themselves?
When people who volunteer for the jab get blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, vascular and neurological damage, organ damage, Kawasaki disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, acquired immune disease, sterility, blindness, or they just up and die, THEY brought that shit on themselves. They sought it out.
The chance of dying from covid is 0.002% for people under 20; 0.03% for people between 30 and 40; and 0.5% for people between 40 and 70, IF they catch covid at all and IF they receive zero treatment. The average age of someone who dies of covid is over 80 years old. It's slightly higher than the average age of death from all causes in the U. S. The vast majority of people who die of covid are very unhealthy to begin with.
Somehow, morons have been convinced that natural immune systems are a conspiracy theory. And of course the morons swear, based on pharma propaganda, that drugs like Ivermectin and/or HCQ+zincthat have been proven to be extremely safe and highly effective are dangerous and ineffective. Only the experimental gene modification jab will save them. These are people who base their medical choices on politics rather than not informed logic.
I feel sorry it's obvious, nobody deserves to die even if they are against the vaxx. I don't even think I have the right to be AGAINST THEM or accuse them or harrass them, NO, I don't even comment on it because everyone should know what's best for themselves. Honestly, I feel bad that this guy died, but it's nobodies fault but Covids and whoever allowed this freaking situation to happen in general. That person has lots of blood on his or her hand.
Ok well what if one day God's message becomes clear? And people say holy smokes, God really does exist and we kept denying the truth. You mean Moses, Abraham, Jesus, Muhammad, Adam and others were all speaking the truth? Science community who are atheists reject God's existence and died for science, Steven Hawking being one. I'm tired of people on the right and left, anti vaxers or pro vaxers think they are smarter then one another in such a condescending, immature manner... We're all going to get hit in the face with reality one day that we denied. When I told people a year in 2019 before a recession was coming people denied it. By March 2020, Bank of America announced a world recession. I didn't laugh at people who thought this economy was soo strong, and people lost their jobs like haha noo sympathy for you small businesses. Another Great Depression is coming that many in stock holders and investors and economists are warning and if you or others deny that and it happens after all this Covid stuff ends... Then who has the egg on the face of denying those things. We live in a world where proclaim they are the smartest and its embarrassing. If you think I am Trump supporting anti-vaxer messaging you, I am not. I hate Trump, I don't trust politicians and I got my 2 doses of vaccine so you can't flip out on me for in regards to your post.
No one should be happy when other people die especially of something like covid. Even though I think the antivaxxers are way off and brainwashed, I do not want anyone to get covid and diet from it.
They're people too and are our friends and loved ones. It's frustrating for sure but it's sad in my opinion. I won't engage antivaxxers any longer because they aren't going to be swayed. Regardless I hope they are safe too.
I'm not attacking you or accusing you of saying anything. I'm responding in a general sense to your question as well as overall based on responses I'm reading. You sound indifferent and that's your opinion. Not looking for an argument.
Well, I think you're likely to be at least somewhat disappointed- a number of people who are more likely to be Democrats are also suspicious of the vaccine and haven't taken it.
" Incidentally, a third of those coming over the border illegally are refusing the vaccine as well. "
the link provided doesn't say anything about 'refusing' to take it. all it shows is they aren't taking it. the factors for why is not shown. it could be they aren't as widely available for them.
What I provided wasn't data about those entering the US illegally- it was about vaccination rates by race You have suggested that it's Republicans who are not taking the vaccine. I showed you data that indicates it's a lot more complex than that. So I'll ask you again- are you "not sad" that a lot of blacks and Hispanics may die because they haven't taken the vaccine?
your republican anti-vaxxer friends ARE refusing to take them though. you get that there's a difference between simply not taking them (again probably because they aren't widely available to them) and refusing to take them right?
im not taking your bait bro. i know you badly want to moralize and feel superior to me who doesn't really care about people who die because they refuse to take the vaccine. it ain't happening.
"FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccines are distributed for free by states and local communities. You cannot buy COVID-19 vaccines online. You do not need to pay any out-of-pocket costs to get an authorized COVID-19 vaccine — not before, during, or after your appointment."
So in trying to cover your ass for your racism being exposed, you've shown yourself to be a liar. I'll ask you again, are you "not sad" that many blacks and Hispanics may die if they don't take the vaccine? It's OK to admit that you just assumed that only whites were "refusing" to take the vaccine if that's the case.
Anyone not taking the vaccine at this point is refusing to.
haha nice try buddy. you have to prove that it in the states where these black folks and immigrants aren't taking them ARE refusing to do so. with evidence
So ill give you this if they aren't taking them because they aren't available easily then yes that is sad and we need to improve on that. but if there are those who aren't it might be more complex their because both those communities do have good reason to refuse any government especially the united states promising them anything given their histories in our country... so i might be even more sympathetic to them than i am to sayyy wealthy white folks who aren't taking them because they think they know better than doctors/scientists/etc do.
LMAO- you're pathetic. Stop making a fool of yourself. vaccines are widely available, e. g., at Wal-Mart and drugstores, and they're free. And you've not only contradicted yourself, you've implicitly admitted that I'm right that it's refusal. And it's racist as hell to suggest blacks can have legit reasons for not taking the vaccine but whites can't.
i said ---IF--- they refused it buddy... you didn't read that little word huh? you still gotta show they actually ARE refusing it and simply not taking it because of other factors.
at least im not that racist you were attempting to paint me as. yeah im white... sooo i can say that about white people :)
I don't want nor wished people to die. I don't want them to force them to be pro-vaccine, but I want them to be educated. And I want people who spread rumors to be punished.
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Trust me I'm not against Vaccinations... I get the flu shot every Winter time but you hear so much about the Covid Vaccination... A 21-year-old male took the Pfizer Covid Vaccination and ended in the Hospital with inflammation around his heart than
this guy died with a body full of blood clots after he took the Johnson & Johnson
the only one that seems safe is the Moderna's vaccine so who knows
Sooner or later a variant will arise with a scary mortality rate. We can only hope they can churn out vaccines to keep up. As for anti vaxxers I feel more sorry for the gullible people they convince with their pseudo logic.
Do you feel sorry about all the "gullible" desperate blues on here that drool over your fake photo thinking you are a pink-female? What a hypocrite you are.
I do feel sad for anyone who dies of anything before his or her time. Just did a hospital removal this morning for someone who died from it.
The only time I think I've ever not felt sorry for anyone for getting injured (not killed) was someone who did a dine-and-dash at a restaurant where I was eating. He bolted out the door, ran into the street without looking, and got hit by a car. I called 911, went out to see if I could help. Should have held my tongue but couldn't resist saying "karma is a bitch, that's what you getting for trying to skip out without paying." He lived.
@SaoirseS Do you work for your local coroner's office? Just curious.
@ArrowheadSW I'm a funeral home owner/operator. I also handle simple removals after hours so I don't have to call anyone in since I live in an apartment over the funeral home.
The psychiatric implications of this post are disturbing. Do you have empathy for the people who did get vaccinated, but died anyway? Or is it just one of those cases where you really don't give a damn about anyone, but you'll use a certain group to make a point?
Nowhere NEAR as sorry as for the pro-vaxxers that died BECAUSE of it when, all they had to do was take HQC or Robitussin CF.
Haha wow.
I am not an anti vaxxer (I believe in polio, MMR etc vaccines) and I actually took the covid19 vaccine albeit reluctantly. It is definitely an experimental vaccine and there have been fewer studies than with the above-mentioned vaccines. Also there’s the novelty of mrna vaccines.
I took the vaccine only because eventually they will make it compulsory if I want to go to restaurants, work etc.
“It is definitely an experimental vaccine”
Its not
"All vaccines follow the same testing processes, whether they are approved for emergency use or through a typical license.
Clinical trials are conducted in three phases.
In Phase 1, the vaccine is given to a small number of generally healthy people to assess its safety and effectiveness.
In Phase 2, the vaccine is given to hundreds of people with different health conditions and from diverse demographic groups.
In Phase 3, the vaccine is administered to thousands of people across demographic groups and immune responses are compared against placebos, which are doses that don’t contain any of the vaccine and are used for testing purposes only."
vaccine.unchealthcare.org/.../
Thanks for the visual aid. However the duration of the test is by definition shorter for emergency use authorisation. This might miss some long-term effects in small populations eg women undergoing fertility treatment. Also as an ethnic minority I’m concerned about my proportionally small representation in the phase 3 trial.
Its shorter but its still just as rigorously tested as if it was under normal conditions
How could you possibly “rigorously test” a drug’s effects at say, 1 year later, if your test ran for 6 months? They have a 1-year standard for phase 3 trials (for non emergency approval) for a reason. I don’t know the reason but I’m sure they didn’t pick it arbitrarily.
Another suspicious issue is how quickly scientific peer review was completed. As a researcher myself (PhD in electronics, dissertation on semiconductor physics unfortunately, not biochemistry) I’m used to waiting around for a year just to get all referee reports. And things move fast in the field of semiconductors.
More conspiracies
Human life is valuable. The loss of life is still a tragedy, regardless of the person's belief.
its tragic but im still not sad. they brought it on themselves
Did anyone who every caught any disease bring it on themselves?
When people who volunteer for the jab get blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, vascular and neurological damage, organ damage, Kawasaki disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, acquired immune disease, sterility, blindness, or they just up and die, THEY brought that shit on themselves. They sought it out.
The chance of dying from covid is 0.002% for people under 20; 0.03% for people between 30 and 40; and 0.5% for people between 40 and 70, IF they catch covid at all and IF they receive zero treatment.
The average age of someone who dies of covid is over 80 years old. It's slightly higher than the average age of death from all causes in the U. S.
The vast majority of people who die of covid are very unhealthy to begin with.
Somehow, morons have been convinced that natural immune systems are a conspiracy theory. And of course the morons swear, based on pharma propaganda, that drugs like Ivermectin and/or HCQ+zincthat have been proven to be extremely safe and highly effective are dangerous and ineffective. Only the experimental gene modification jab will save them. These are people who base their medical choices on politics rather than not informed logic.
I feel sorry it's obvious, nobody deserves to die even if they are against the vaxx. I don't even think I have the right to be AGAINST THEM or accuse them or harrass them, NO, I don't even comment on it because everyone should know what's best for themselves.
Honestly, I feel bad that this guy died, but it's nobodies fault but Covids and whoever allowed this freaking situation to happen in general. That person has lots of blood on his or her hand.
They faking piss me out because I feel sad but then fck they're killing others I and don't talk like that but fck them. See now I feel bad again 😞
I don’t wish I’ll of anyone that dies, these will likely have families.
Miss guided, like bikers not wearing helmets or wearing shorts, people going up hills without proper kit, etc
They got what they wanted. They denied the science and died for that stance.
Ok well what if one day God's message becomes clear? And people say holy smokes, God really does exist and we kept denying the truth. You mean Moses, Abraham, Jesus, Muhammad, Adam and others were all speaking the truth? Science community who are atheists reject God's existence and died for science, Steven Hawking being one. I'm tired of people on the right and left, anti vaxers or pro vaxers think they are smarter then one another in such a condescending, immature manner... We're all going to get hit in the face with reality one day that we denied. When I told people a year in 2019 before a recession was coming people denied it. By March 2020, Bank of America announced a world recession. I didn't laugh at people who thought this economy was soo strong, and people lost their jobs like haha noo sympathy for you small businesses. Another Great Depression is coming that many in stock holders and investors and economists are warning and if you or others deny that and it happens after all this Covid stuff ends... Then who has the egg on the face of denying those things. We live in a world where proclaim they are the smartest and its embarrassing. If you think I am Trump supporting anti-vaxer messaging you, I am not. I hate Trump, I don't trust politicians and I got my 2 doses of vaccine so you can't flip out on me for in regards to your post.
If everyone would just get the vaccinations instead of making itr a political statement we would be out of this mess and can get on with life.
No one should be happy when other people die especially of something like covid. Even though I think the antivaxxers are way off and brainwashed, I do not want anyone to get covid and diet from it.
They're people too and are our friends and loved ones. It's frustrating for sure but it's sad in my opinion. I won't engage antivaxxers any longer because they aren't going to be swayed. Regardless I hope they are safe too.
im not --happy-- no where did i say i was. but im also not sad either. they brought this on themselves.
I'm not attacking you or accusing you of saying anything. I'm responding in a general sense to your question as well as overall based on responses I'm reading. You sound indifferent and that's your opinion. Not looking for an argument.
Well the title mentions deaths but the links you used are talking about cases so I think you don't know what you're talking about
Cases which temd to lead to death
I kinda feel sad for them but at the same time it's their fault for not getting vaccinated. They could be the same people who refused to wear masks
I feel guilty that i don't but they really are causing a lot of drama
Ah, so this is actually a political rant. Now we see why you're gloating and hope large numbers of people die.
Im not hoping but im not sad about it
Well, I think you're likely to be at least somewhat disappointed- a number of people who are more likely to be Democrats are also suspicious of the vaccine and haven't taken it.
Anytime you wana cite things we will talk
Incidentally, a third of those coming over the border illegally are refusing the vaccine as well.
www.kff.org/.../
This is a public health issue. Politicizing it in this manner is derelict.
So, are you going to tell us that you aren't sad that a lot of blacks and Hispanics may die?
" Incidentally, a third of those coming over the border illegally are refusing the vaccine as well. "
the link provided doesn't say anything about 'refusing' to take it. all it shows is they aren't taking it. the factors for why is not shown. it could be they aren't as widely available for them.
what else you got? is that it?
What I provided wasn't data about those entering the US illegally- it was about vaccination rates by race You have suggested that it's Republicans who are not taking the vaccine. I showed you data that indicates it's a lot more complex than that. So I'll ask you again- are you "not sad" that a lot of blacks and Hispanics may die because they haven't taken the vaccine?
"t's Republicans who are not taking the vaccine"
your republican anti-vaxxer friends ARE refusing to take them though. you get that there's a difference between simply not taking them (again probably because they aren't widely available to them) and refusing to take them right?
im not taking your bait bro. i know you badly want to moralize and feel superior to me who doesn't really care about people who die because they refuse to take the vaccine. it ain't happening.
Not widely available to them? You do know they are given for free, right?
www.fda.gov/.../learn-more-about-covid-19-vaccines-fda
"FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccines are distributed for free by states and local communities. You cannot buy COVID-19 vaccines online. You do not need to pay any out-of-pocket costs to get an authorized COVID-19 vaccine — not before, during, or after your appointment."
So in trying to cover your ass for your racism being exposed, you've shown yourself to be a liar. I'll ask you again, are you "not sad" that many blacks and Hispanics may die if they don't take the vaccine? It's OK to admit that you just assumed that only whites were "refusing" to take the vaccine if that's the case.
Anyone not taking the vaccine at this point is refusing to.
haha nice try buddy. you have to prove that it in the states where these black folks and immigrants aren't taking them ARE refusing to do so. with evidence
So ill give you this if they aren't taking them because they aren't available easily then yes that is sad and we need to improve on that. but if there are those who aren't it might be more complex their because both those communities do have good reason to refuse any government especially the united states promising them anything given their histories in our country... so i might be even more sympathetic to them than i am to sayyy wealthy white folks who aren't taking them because they think they know better than doctors/scientists/etc do.
there. choke on that buddy
LMAO- you're pathetic. Stop making a fool of yourself. vaccines are widely available, e. g., at Wal-Mart and drugstores, and they're free. And you've not only contradicted yourself, you've implicitly admitted that I'm right that it's refusal. And it's racist as hell to suggest blacks can have legit reasons for not taking the vaccine but whites can't.
i said ---IF--- they refused it buddy... you didn't read that little word huh? you still gotta show they actually ARE refusing it and simply not taking it because of other factors.
at least im not that racist you were attempting to paint me as. yeah im white... sooo i can say that about white people :)
I always feel bad for those people... imagine having such low intelligence...
Nope, just nature cleaning up a bit, survival of the fittest
I don't want nor wished people to die.
I don't want them to force them to be pro-vaccine, but I want them to be educated.
And I want people who spread rumors to be punished.