I got vaccinated 4 months ago but I’m starting to regret it?

[Anonymous]

I got vaccinated back in May when I was 39 and I recently turned 40. Im in excellent physical shape and have no preexistíng conditions. I got tested a grand total of 16 times for covid during the pandemic and i was negative every single time. Nobody in my immediate family got covid. Also I know I had been exposed to covid several times during lockdown but I always came out in the clear.

The real reason I got the vaccine is I planned to travel abroad and proof of vaccination was required at customs. I felt very borderline about the benefits vs risks of getting the vaccine. Im not 19 but definitely not 65 either. It was a real coin toss for me.

Anyway I was pro vaccine until the recent government mandates started rolling out. Also my own company required proof of vaccination despite the fact I work 100% remote. I had to take screenshots of the covid paperwork I have.

I think people need to be respected as free adults to make their own decisions to take it or not. If a 75 year old man decides not to vaccinate and he ends up getting COVID then it’s on him at this point. I also think it’s child abuse to force kids under 18 to get this. If was under 30 I probably would refuse it.

Anyway I’m not an anti vaxxer but I am becoming increasingly alarmed by how governments are forcing this.

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Well knock on wood that I won’t have any side effects to this. I’m not glowing green yet.

But I heard a theory by Joe Rogan that vaccines actually HELP THE VIRUS MUTATE. Now that’s from joe Rogan who is no doctor and nutty at times. But he has a way of offering unique perspectives that no one else thought about. That’s why he’s famous and his podcast is popular.

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Some people took my comment about Joe Rogan and ran with it. I said I was open to hearing him out but sure as hell didn’t think his insight was the voice of God.

Here is a Forbes article with a doctor refuting what rogan said. Forbes is mostly centrist so I trust them a lot more vs. a CNN or FOX article.

www.google.com/.../

[Anonymous]

there is 100% something not right with the whole thing. The president of a country founded on freedom, openly stating he's trying to break laws to force this "vaccine" onto everyone, while at the same time he's allowing more illegals across the border than ever before, with more than 20% being sick with covid, AND THEN having them sent around the country and NOT tracked. Only a damn brainwashed sheep or freaking Communist sympathizer would support actions like this.

[worldscolide]

I too am vaccinated.. I'm OK with a limited mandate for that.. Say international travel, and booking flights and the like.. But mandating it at work, or to go shopping fuck that.

[Asker]

Exactly

[Celtero]

The way the government has handled this has been an enormous failure. First, you get so many politicians claiming they won't trust a Trump vaccine simply to take a dig at Trump. Whether you like trump or not, it's awful to create that initial message that it's okay to undermine trust in the vaccine. Antivaxx sentiment already existed and after that it created a new pocket of antivaxx that was based on the vaccines' speedy development. Black people haven't been getting the vaccine, so to defend them, leftists mention the Tuskegee experiments. Prior to this, I bet 99% of black people haven't even heard of those experiements, and now they've just given them another excuse to not get it. They pull the J&J after 4 people maybe got a nerve disease, giving the message that the vaccine was indeed dangerous. And now it apparently doesn't matter if you've had the vaccine or not, it doesn't make a difference in society. I'm not sure why anyone who hasn't been vaccinated at this point would ever get vaccinated; especially those who have already had the virus and therefore the antibodies.

So at this point, I'm pretty convinced too many Americans like to larp that they're in some apocalyptical pandemic moment or something. Humanity has faced far worse pandemics, covid is extremely mild compared to something like the Spanish Flu a century ago.

[FunkyMonkee]

They've been looking for an excuse for years to get us all vaccinated in some way to either use it to kill us off or to turn us into robots! They WANTED to do it with RFID chips!! Joe stole the election, Lord Fauci created the excuse and now they're talking about forcing us all to get it! I'm hearing that, in these shots, is a new things they've discovered called, Graphene Once you get it in your body you can be turned on and off like a robot and they can control you through some kind of radio controls. What do you think all those cell phone towers are all over the place for? They can turn on your cell phone and listen or even watch you ANY TIME THEY LIKE! Same with those flat screen t. v.'s y`all are so hip to buy! You can't see it, but there's a camera in the frame! They're watching you even when your t. v.'s shut off!! That's alright!! DON'T believe me! Are you SO sure that you WON'T bother to look it up?

[Asker]

Calm the fuck down man. You are a grown ass 54 year old man. This was no “anti vaxxer” question. I’m just wondering out loud without new developments without going off on so tirade.

I pretty sure where you lean on all this. But seriously you are just going to drive REAL anti vaxxers in the wrong direction with that nonsense. Fucking quit it.

[FunkyMonkee]

So? What's your point?
No tirade, I'm just telling you how it is! Like I said, don''t believe me if you don't want to! It's YOUR neck, not mine!
YOU'RE the one spewing nonsense! If anything, I'll give the "real" anti-vaxxers more ammo for their guns and get them (and hopefully, you and others like you) to actually do some research on it! Stop being so fucking blind and stupid!

[Asker]

Your arguing like you just hit puberty. Again your a grown ass 54 year old man. I guess mental libtardation can be a progressive disease in some people.

Grow up! Seriously grow the fuck up. It’s bad enough seeing all these commie college kids screaming socialist nonsense and big government. But a man your age who is incapable of a rational discussion... seriously man. I feel sorry for you.

[FunkyMonkee]

I see. So, it''s okay for Joe Rogan to say this stuff but not for me!
Where do you get the idea I'm arguing! I'm giving you FACTS!! Like I said, don't believe them, if you don''t want to! Since when is it only pubescent kids that are allowed to argue? I didn't know there was an age limit on arguing.
And you''re a "grown ass" (whatever the fuck that means) 40 year old man! How are you any better than me and why is it okay for YOU to argue and not for me, even though I'm NOT arguing?
I wouldn't know about libtardatiion, I'm not liberal. I'm giving you the facts! If you don't want them,. just shut the fuck up and go away!! OBVIOUSLY MENTAL retardation is a highly contagious disesase and people like you are spreading it all over the world MUCH faster that covid!!
I don't have to grow the fuck up, I'm already grown! Now, it's YOUR turn, little boy!!
What part of what I said was socialist OR nonsense? I've BEEN having a discussion!! YOU'RE the one spewing little boy garbage and arguments!! `Tis I that feell sorry for YOUR lot!! I'm here telling you the Emperor is naked and you choose to believe he's wearing fancy new clothes simply because he TOLD you to!! How often do you have to get your wool clipped?

[Asker]

I flat out said joe Rogan is no expert and can be nutty at times. I actually read a good Forbes article last evening (which is centrist) which refuted rogan’s argument.

Liberals keep saying “follow the science” but considering all of the bureaucratic bullshit Fauci did (including burying legitimate evidence of the Wuhan lab leak) I trust them less and less. I will not blindly just say the vaccine is okay even though I already got it.

But you going ballistic about the Indian cure or whatever the fuck doichebag rant you got going upstairs in part of the problem. You are not going to win people over talking to them like that. You completely failed to match the context of my original question.

But if you vote Democrat I wouldn’t be surprised. Most of you people act that way.

[Anonymous]

People have been scammed, brain washed, and lied to. I see the pink below talking about vaccines saving lives... but they do not realise that natural treatments with nearly 100% effectiveness have been pushed aside in favor of vaccines.

There is a molecule that cures, prevents, and treats COVID and it's blocked, banned, and lied about, and it gets censored when mentioned on Google, Youtube, Twitter, Facebook and elsewhere. Think the polio and malaria vaccines saved lives? the same natural molecule that cures COVID also cures those too but most people have never heard of them.

People do not realise that vaccines are purely about profit, not your health. If there ever was a time they were about health, those times are long gone. I wish people would start to take a deep look beyond what they are told by the media.

[Asker]

What molecule is this? While I do agree that big pharma and the mass media have done some heinous bullshit I also got to say this “‘molecule” you are talking about is bit strange. Convince me this isn’t hooky.

[Opinion Owner]

It's not strange, it's very simple. In fact, it's simplicity is embarrassing Vs the billions of money spent on research into disease. But I've come to realise there is little point in trying to convince anyone. Imagine seeing it in action with your own eyes, telling people about it, and all of them say it's not real. Now picture hearing that every time you mention it.

What I will advise is to go and read the book 'Forbidden Health' by Andreas Kalcker. The molecule is discussed in there. That book was banned on Amazon, but you can get it on voedia. com

Either you will discover the truth, or still be in the dark and believe all of the lies. And by the way, I researched the molecule for months and still had a few doubts. But all of them doubts vanished after I saw it save a persons life about a month ago.

Oh and another thing. Guess where I first heard about the molecule... It was on a Government / Media website list titled 'COVID Hoax Cures to avoid' and on other FDA sites and Government sites with a long list of dangerous side effects it would cause if you ever used it. After I kept on seeing it mentioned by the Government I started to think it was a real cure since they do not care about me or my health...

[Anonymous]

I’m glad someone else sees this side to the argument. I am not against vaccines on a whole in any way, I think they are amazing! But I feel the bribery and pressure to get this one is ridiculous. When it has a better success rate, stops the spread and we know the longer term effects I will be jumping right on it but for now I am still hesitant. It should not be a case of “I’m getting it now because I’ll need to eventually”.

[Anonymous]

It is amusing when sheltered naive people bitch. Mindboggling ignorance & stupidity.

Now you didn't have to live through smallpots, measles, or any of the highly contagious communal diseases that ravaged prior generations. Polio as example was a fucking nasty virus. Tuberculosis is another nasty virus.

Except for true anti-vaxxers - typically uneducated, good-for-nothing can't-keep-a-job welfare leeching trash - everyone has had vaccinations for those viruses & more "against your will" if you really want to be stupid about it.

[Asker]

Did you even take a split fucking second to READ everything I wrote?

You act like I’m some sort of maga hat conspiracy redneck despite the fact I very carefully thought this issue through. The only thing I regret posting was Joe Rogans take on this. I corrected that in the second comment.

Self righteous people like yourself are too stupid to realize that your attitudes often prove some people right and drive other people in the opposite direction.

Quit acting like an elitist cunt. I already took the vaccination. I explicitly said I’m NOT an anti vaxxer. But I disagree with people getting forced into this. If they get COVID from being unvaccinated it’s ON THEM.

If anything you should be happy far right conservatives aren’t getting vaccinated. It means that more of them will die if this virus is as dangerous as its been exaggerated to be. Did you ever think about that?

[Opinion Owner]

@Asker - you are plenty levels of stupid, aren't you? To repeat what you said, try to read everything I wrote. Take your time. See if your teeny weeny little brain can comprehend what I am writing. Don't hold your breathe though as you may suffocate & die.

Actually like me make it simple for you, idiot. You take vaccines on a yearly basis. You've taken vaccines since you were a toddler. You took the COVID vaccine out of your own free will so you could travel. And now you bitched like an fucked-up-the-ass whore.

[Asker]

I dare you to repeat what you said above slowly in front of a mirror. When your done come back and tell us horrified you were about how your reflection showed you.

Your a grown a grown ass woman who is at least 30 years old and yet your trolling like a 13 year old schoolyard bully who just hit puberty. It’s terrifying that people like you vote.

But you know what just keep making an ass out of yourself and see how it works out for you. One of us is the adult in the room and (while it might take a while) common sense will ultimately prevail.

[Anonymous]

It's better that you got it. I know people feel like their "freedom of choice" is being jeopardized, but these are not normal times, and with the amount of vaccines that have saved lives in the past, including the COVID vaccine now, should outweigh any doubt.

[Asker]

I don’t like how younger healthy people are getting pressured into this. I sure as hell don’t think minors should be pressured into this. That is what is bothering me.

Initially I felt the exact same way you do. But now I am having second thoughts.

[FunkyMonkee]

In the meantime, a guy in India has created a plant-based cure that gets rid of covid in SECONDS! People down there are lined up for miles around to get some of his cure and they are refusing to take the vaccines.

[Opinion Owner]

I am 25 years old and was not pressured into it. I get the argument that you should not be forced to do something you don't want to do, but I also think there is a lot of false information being spread about it. If someone wants to refrain from getting the vaccine, then they should do their part and wear a mask, social distance and not be around others.

[Asker]

People were not being “pressured” into this a few months ago. But this is changing now by asking for proof vaccination just to eat a restaurant in NY. I don’t agree with that.

[Opinion Owner]

The pressure comes from the fact that people are dying and getting severely sick because of COVID, and in order for all of this to be over, people need to stop getting COVID and/or stop getting it so severely. The vaccine helps protect people and it slows the spread, so I am not sure where the problem is? If there is pressure, it is to keep people safe. If you don't like that a restaurant asks for proof of vaccination, then don't go there.

[Asker]

I felt the exact same way. But mandating people to get the shot ESPECIALLY if they are very low risk (under 30) is what bothers me. We have the facts of the disease now. People can make a CHOICE whether to vaccinate or not. If you are in a vulnerable category and you chose not to vaccinate and you end up dying from covid that’s on you. I met a 73 year old Uber driver who told me he doesn’t want to get the vaccine.

He’s playing Russian roulette with his life. But that’s ON him. He knows the risks.

Also less than 400 kids died from this out of 75 million people nationwide. Do the math that is an extremely low lottos chance number. I bet most of those fatalities were obese teenagers. I do know that 79% of the people who passed away were obese. And yet leftists keep playing that emotional “we got to protect the children” lie.

Again I’m NOT an anti vaxxer. But I don’t like the mandate approach at all. If you are vaccinated then who cares if someone else isn’t if you are worried about your own health.

[Anonymous]

This is NOT a "vaccine". It's a dangerous experimental drug. I don't even take REAL vaccines, as per my choice.

[Asker]

I don’t agree with that either man. Although the vaccine has not been FDA cleared it has definitively shown to be effective (especially moderna).

That’s not to say there are risks. I bet there might be. But at this point you can be a grown adult and make a decision. I don’t like the mandates.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm glad to hear that AT LEAST you agree there are risks. The future will tell the real story about the true effects of this experimental drug. And unfortunately, I DON"T think it's going to be good.
And yes, any "mandates" on these drugs are completely unconstitutional

[joeldalton]

I understand what you’re saying.

[Asker]

Yeah I only recently started thinking like this. Initially I was pissed off at far right nuts (and some far leftists too) pushing all the anti vax nonsense. However these mandates are making think twice about it.

I have the free will to get wasted and get behind the wheel if I wanted to. But I won’t do that because I’m a responsible adult and I know the risks. Obese people are higher mortality risk for many things (number one contributing factor to covid fatalities). However the government isn’t forcing them to lose weight nor should anybody. They made a choice to be that way and they have live with the consequences.

[Anonymous]

Amen to that brother

[Asker]

People your age should not be forced to get this unless you are obese and/or have a preexistíng condition. You sure as hell shouldn’t take it if you already had COVID and now have antibodies.