Why are the side effects way more extreme from the booster shot?

[Year3000]

Fever, chills, worse pain in my arm haha!

[Anonymous]

I'd say that was the least of your worries...https://alethonews.com/2021/10/20/the-covid-testimony-of-dr-peter-mccullough/

'... it’s now known that the spike protein itself is independently pathogenic. It causes damage itself, okay? And I think everyone accepts this. When I mean damage, it damages the cells in which it’s produced. When it’s on the cell surface, the body immediately recognises it’s not supposed to be there and attacks. When the spike protein breaks free, which it does, it circulates in the human body for about two weeks. In a paper by Ogata and colleagues – this is being filmed and this is going to be fact-checked, so I want the fact-checkers to see that – Ogata et al, Harvard circulates in measurable and plasma for two weeks after a messenger RNA vaccination. After the second shot, it’s no longer measurable, probably because the antibodies produced dampen it down. It doesn’t mean the spike protein is gone. We don’t know how long the cells produce the abnormal spike protein.

It would have been wonderful if the spike protein just stayed in the arm. If the deposit, the 1cc injection in the arm, and if the production of the spike protein would have just stayed in the arm and the immune reaction stay in the arm, that would have been, I think, the best possible scenario for these vaccines. Not the case. When the Ogata paper broke, everyone said, ‘Oh boy, now the spike protein is circulating.’ Okay? Then, when the first man who took the vaccine, he took shot one, shot two, when he died in Germany and had an autopsy, the question was: where is the spike protein being produced in the body? And that’s when that autopsy hit and it was in the brain. It was in the heart. It was in all the essential organs. We knew we were in trouble. We knew we were in trouble.

Never once did we have a vaccine or any injection in the human body that got distributed via lipid nanoparticles throughout the body within a matter of weeks and then set up shop to produce a damaging protein. This protein circulates. It damages organs. It damages endothelial cells. Blood cells. It causes blood clotting. There is a wealth of scientific papers on this. There’s nothing about the spike protein that’s good. These little red characters here on the slide are lethal. They’re lethal.'

[Year3000]

Stfu

[Friendlybro79]

Anon that doctor has been debunked and is spreading misinformation. Wake up. This is not a movie. New cases: Unvaccinated are roughly 6 times more likely get covid. Deaths unvaccinated are 12 times more likely to die.

[Opinion Owner]

@Friendlybro79 Where is the evidence of him being debunked?

[Friendlybro79]

healthfeedback.org/.../

sciencebasedmedicine.org/.../

www.examiner-enterprise.com/.../

Read through these articles. The guy is a quack. The articles explains the numbers that are in the vaers covid data that he isn't interpreting properly. If you want to believe these discredited people at least look up the people you choose to believe. He's been discredited with his covid misinformation. Choosing to believe in these kinds of people is why so many unvaccinated people are currently dying at 12x the rate of vaccinated people.

[Opinion Owner]

@Friendlybro79 I'm not choosing to believe in them to be honest. My belief is based on all of the 'coincidences' I've seen in my family since vaccination, as well as other people I know. Many have exactly the same sets of issues. Now people can say it's a coincidence, or nothing to do with the vaccine but there are far too many of them.

So that guy may well be a quack, but it doesn't change that I know people who will likely have their last Christmas because of mysteriously becoming very ill after vaccination.

However, there is another reason why I do not believe in the vaccine. There is a molecule that can treat the virus very safely, but it cannot be patented. The Government pretend it does not exist and Google has done an excellent job at blocking information about it. In fact, I've seen the molecule the Government and Google label as a poison, save a life 2x in the last few months.

That is why I do not believe in the vaccines. Money... not health.

[wankiam]

i had this reaction too... one theory is its because i had a different booster to the first two jabs but another is that a stronger immune system fights the vaccine harder to create new antibodies and so getting sick is a good sign its working... i did speak to a doctor about the second theory and she said its most likely the reason but there isn't enough research to confirm it yet

[Year3000]

@wankiam I think also.

[Anonymous]

I was in absolute shock after my booster shot. I barely had any reaction to the first two and the worst of it was only arm pain. I remember wondering if they gave me a placebo because nothing happened. I even prepared prior to both shots to be in bed in case it was like the Flu b/c my friend had a strong reaction to one of her shots. Cut to this booster, I strolled in on a Friday, got the shot, didn't plan anything, had a full day of stuff to do, was helping my mom who just had surgery, and then bam, that night I was f'd up. I had just about every single symptom--headache, arm pain, chills, fever, nausea, diarrhea, exhaustion, swelling of my lympth nodes on the shot arm side. It was crazy! It took a full three days for me to get back to normal. I had Moderna for all three shots, and the lady giving the shot told me it was even a half dose, so I'm just really confused how less of the vaccine could give me the strongest reaction I've had to date. It has the conspiracy side of my brain twisting.

[MORPHEUS_12]

I just had my booster shot and SHIT my head hurt so bad for 2 days. It felt like someone had hit me in the head with a 2 x 4. Maybe it's because they have made the booster stronger because they cannot keep making shots for us to have every 6 months because people would not trust them. They know that people are already leary.

[Friendlybro79]

They're not stronger. Pfizer is the same dosage as the first two and Moderna is half the dose of each original two shots. J&J is the same as the original as well.

[Year3000]

@morpheus_12 I feel normal now pretty much.

[genericname85]

because you're litterally poisoning yourself. that's what vaccines are. they poison you with something weaker than the actual disease in order for your body to adapt and then be able to deal with the actual disease better.

however normally, a vaccine would not harm you significantly and drastically reduce your chance of suffering from a disease.

like do you see any of the polio vaccinated people get polio? i don't. but it seems most of the covid vaccinated people still get covid. and they also still die, which is no surprise considering that the vaccine reduces your total risk of dying by only like 0,5%.

in fact a very recent study (November this year) conducted by the UK Office for National Statistics showed that your risk of dying (in general) is twice as high if you're vaccinated vs if you aren't... 1 in 5000 people suffer severe advese effects that can end deadly... this is pretty much the worst medicine ever on the market right after thalidomide / contergan... and that's even before the long term studies are in...

[Razp_Sorbet]

I haven't had my booster but when I got my second the guy giving me it said since I had side effects to the first one I wouldn't get any to the second. BOY did he lie. The worst body aches I've experienced in years. Lucky only lasted the night and paracetamol calmed it down.

[whosnumber1]

but a f$%k of a lot better that being hospitalized with COVID

[Razp_Sorbet]

@whosnumber1 of course, rather body aches for a day than body aches for weeks

[Year3000]

@Razp_Sorbet I had no body aches when I had COVID just pneumonia, and loss of taste and smell.

[Razp_Sorbet]

"just" honestly losing my sense of smell and taste is what terrifies me the most about potentially getting covid (next to passing it on to a loved one)

[Year3000]

Oh and that lasted for over a year.

[Year3000]

I mean “just” by my only symptoms. They were bad but I only had about 3 symptoms.

[Razp_Sorbet]

Yeah I'm glad you got through it ☺️

[whosnumber1]

I know 2 people who died from it and 2 that were hospitalized. one is still in hospital has a wife and 3 kids and the other was in for 8 months...

[Levin]

I'm hearing that anecdote from all the people around me.

Of course, I'm rolling my eyes. They're all getting sick taking an experimental jab, which is supposed to stop them from getting sick in the first place.

[Levin]

Also, odysee.com/.../3-x-FOOTBALLERS-COLLAPSE-x-In-3-DAYS-Hugo-Talks--lockdown2:6

[Year3000]

What?

[sawno]

Because the shots are bad for your health and are accelerated if you had stuff before. Your training an overreaction from your body to this type of virus, among with bad effects it has on your blood. So the more you take the worse i expect it to get.

[TDDMS]

Why did you get the initial vaccines and the booster shot? I had COVID over a year ago and it was no where near the intensity of the seasonal flu.

[ElvenMr]

People fear this virus more then anything for some reason..

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Because they were told to

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Probably to trick them into giving up their rights and taking a dangerous shot that makes them feel terrible.

[Year3000]

@TDDMS I had it in 2020 and it wasn’t worse or better than the flu just different.

[Friendlybro79]

@Lost_in_the_Woods you say probably to trick them and taking a dangerous shot. What credentials do you have to make such claims? You're paranoia isn't a qualification.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Maybe the facts that the shots don't stop people getting sick or spreading the virus? The fact that they kill people. And the fact that 99% of people survive Covid, 20% of all deaths are caused by cigarettes that the CDC itself says have a fatality rate over 100%, and they never tried to mandate people stop smoking.

But hey,

You want credential?

Hope you have 10 hours to spend looking into what the experts say because I've spent a lot more than that.

content. blubrry. com/.../... Vaccine_Risks-FINAL. mp3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XkRq4PaHqo

alethonews.com/.../

odysee.com/.../Odysee-Hunting-Viruses-With-Andy-Kaufmann-1-comp:7

m.youtube.com/watch

www.ahajournals.org/.../CIRCRESAHA.121.318902

https://www.bitchute.com/video/7TfXJcfjh7xX/

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The fact that tons of ER and hospital staff refuse to get it because they have seen people die from it.

You want to talk about credentials, let's talk about the fact that the least vaccinated level of education is people with PHD's.

You don't know shit. You don't do any research. You watch the Comunist News Network and Dr. Falsehood the politician and believe what they tell you.

Know how I know?

It's because anyone who did their own research would know better. The US government admit the Vaccines had already killed tens of thousands of people, and that was many months ago. The long term effects are not known and legitimate approval can not be gained in 2 years because the tests take 10. And there is a very good reason for that. Many adverse effects don't show up for that long or longer.

Not injecting unknown experimental cell altering drugs into your body isn't paranoia. Agreeing to do so because of a virus that can't hurt you is downright stupid.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You picked the wrong guy to debait on this bro. 🤣😂🤣

[Friendlybro79]

@Lost_in_the_Woods you're clearly lost in the woods for sure. You can sit here and send these videos, that are from news sources that I can't even find out who runs them. The identity of the owner of alethonews is hidden. Lol. Most of what you sourced are sketchy alternative news sources that feed on the paranoid. Picked on the wrong guy? Hahaha you sent almost all bs. The ahajournal is reliable. They are about cardiovascular information, and I appreciate that article because I know the source and they're not hiding who they are. That said the article is definitely written for doctors and I wonder if you read through it because the last paragraph in the article says :

"This conclusion suggests that vaccination-generated antibody and/or exogenous antibody against S protein not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 infectivity but also inhibits S protein-imposed endothelial injury."

This doesn't really say anything anti vaccine

Like I said before picked on the wrong guy? Piss off. This is all garbage. How can you say don't trust the cdc and fda and the 99% of the world's scientists but you'll believe the website that hides its owner lol. What a loser

[Year3000]

@Friendlybro79 you are speaking facts here.

[Friendlybro79]

@year3000 Thanks. I try really hard to truly read through things before replying to half the antivaxxers but too many seem beyond repair. It helps that I have doctors in the family and a friend who is a scientist. If half the people that link these bs websites looked up who runs them, fact checked, etc we'd be better off. Looking up. Why covid is fake and sourcing people who are debunked is ridiculous. They don't take the time to look up "the Dr" they choose to believe and see who they are.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You obviously didn't watch the first video.

And you said it yourself, you only trust mainstream media.

You're too stupid and too fooled to learn anything you don't hear on CNN xD

Go actually watch the videos. The us federal government's VAERS office reported 6000 deaths and said it was actually more like 20,000 back in like August.

Fauci admits the shots aren't working.

There are like 4 separate scientific studies from US Universities in there. They list where they are from and who did the research.

If you can't read that's your fault.

If you think mainstream "news sources" are the place to get accurate scientific data and information you're too far gone.

The first two are 5 full hours of Dr. Malone who invented MRNA vaccines back in the 80's talking about the dangerous side effects.

But you didn't click the link or watch the first 2 minutes because you only trust the Communist News Network so primary sources are no good to you. 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

Do you actually think CNN gets their new from "news sources"?

Where does news come from?

"They just make it right there in the studio"

Sad but true. You're so stupid you've accidentally discovered the truth and you don't see a problem with it.

But science is done by scientists. They don't work for news stations you fucking ignoramus. 🤯

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Robert Malone has been a vaccinologist for the federal government for deccades.

Wikipedia was updated with false information shortly after he started speaking out about the Vaccines and his entire linked in was deleted.

You'd know that if you did your research somewhere other than Wikipedia and CNN.

My highschool science teachers would have failed you and laughed out loud. And we liked CNN back them. We watched it in class. But the news is never a primary source.

The creator of Wikipedia came out and said he doesn't trust it because it's being used as propaganda. .

Problem is, you weren't raised by an actual scientist. I was. My dad worked with chemical weapons and rockets for the DoD. Now he designs the machines that molecularly analise unknown samples.

You think he gets his scientific data from the main stream media?

Did you know the least vaccinated level of education is people with PHD'S?

Do you need me to post the links of people crying because their loved ones died?

Do you actually think the vaccine HASN'T killed people? It's killed more people than every other Vaccine combined for the last 30 years. And that's according to the federal government.

Should be bout half way through the second video you didn't watch. They have the screenshots from VAERS.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Ask your friend who is a scientist if CNN and Wikipedia would count as sources on his scientific papers.

If he says yes, he isn't a scientist. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

"but I met a scientist once, so I don't need to listen to the ones who actually study Vaccines. By friend the yale educated political scientist told me just watch CNN. 🤣😂🤣😂😂

I was raised by a guy who worked for the DoD in a high security lab testing chemical weapons.

You think they didn't have a bio weapon program? You're dead wrong.

[Friendlybro79]

@Lost_in_the_Woods You obviously didn't read my posts. i never said I trust the mainstream media. I trust the majority of scientists and doctors out there. You're an idiot. Dr Malone has been debunked. He's not the sole founder. Je was a contributor.

healthfeedback.org/.../

Fact check Dr Robert Malone and you find his claims about mrna vaccines are false. He wasn't the only person researching this for the past 30 years. You can continue to disagree with the majority of scientists and doctors but your putting stuff out there that has been debunked. Hey but if it fits your narrative, your opinion... Whatever helps you sleep at night pal. You're an imbecile and that's it.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

But shit, I assure you that information is not displayed on CNN or MSNBC.

You think Kim shows his people the real news? You act like one of them.

And, for the record, you obviously didn't read my sources or post any of your own so from a scientific point of view your dumb ass has yet to join the debait.

And I'm just wasting my mind talking to an actual sheep. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Science is rarely done alone in a shed.

I didn't say he was the sole inventor. He invented it as part of a team. you admit that.

You think that means you know more than him?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

That's a new one.

"I admit he was a leading expert over 40 years ago, contributed to the invention of the technology and has been working with it ever since"

"There, I just debunked you"

🤨🤨🤨

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Go watch him talk about it for 5 hours. Don't just pick the one study for somewhere you like and skip to the last paragraph.

Especially being that... That statement actually has been disproven and even CNN admits the Vaccines Don't prevent people getting sick. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

"I reject any source I'm not already familiar with and substitute their deccades of professional field changing experience with the fact that I met a scientist once so that means I'm an expert. He wasn't a vaccine scientist, he locks puppies in cages and let bugs eat them alive. Nice guy. He's really trying to help people. He told me to take these drugs and I'd be safe and not to worry about the side effects or the people who died from it because they don't even talk about those in his political interviews"

Sure thing buddy. Go right ahead.

I'm not AntiVax. I just understand how science works and WHY the safety testing takes 10 years. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You think debunked means "someone with a political agenda posted something saying they disagree"

Why would Dr. Malone lie to make his own discover look bad?

Your problem is you only believe things that you already agree with and don't know how to evaluate bias.

That isn't science. You're a part member not a researcher.

You're also wasting my time so shit, wait and see what happens. Covid can't hurt me so I'll be fine either way. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Friendlybro79]

@Lost_in_the_Woods you're fantastic at being an asshole I'll give you that. The people you source are quacks and been debunked by experts in their field. One vs the large majority. Place your bets folks. I don't claim to know more anyone but I claim i believe the MAJORITY OF SCIENTISTS AND DOCTORS. Not one or two random people debunked by the majority of their peers. Also you say you understand how science works. Please elaborate your royal fukwad.. I have doctors iny family and friends who are scientists. It's not my opinion it's theirs. And they are qualified to an opinion which is what I believe in. Not my gut feelings in the big bad government that's trying to kill us wahhh. Snap out of it you fool.

[Friendlybro79]

@Lost_in_the_Woods and a guy called lost in the woods is qualified? Loser Hahahahahahaha. I never quoted cnn or Wikipedia you just misguide the conversation like a true covid misinformation spreader.

[Friendlybro79]

@Lost_in_the_Woods why would Dr Malone lie? Ask yourself the same question for the majority of everyone else who disagrees.. No one can answer that question and say they actually know without it being speculation you fool

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

So get the vaccine.
Let me get covid.
And we'll both be happy.

If it works, and you don't like me anyways, why do you care if I choose not to take the risk?

Fauci was on CNN yesterday discussing adverse reactions and fatalities caused by the Vaccines. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Tens of thousands of have died. I didn't read anything you said. You can believe what you want. But if it works, you're safe. Why do you care what I do?

I'm not trying to talk you out of getting it. Smoke meth for all I care. Just don't kill other people's kids.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

If you admit it doesn't work, and you're still at risk, why would I take even a small chance of death and feel sick 3 times to protect me from a virus that can't hurt me if I do get it?

Why would the government mandate shots they openly admit are some of the least effective Vaccines ever?

Why don't they just produce a normal one like they have for deccades and make insurance pay for it?

What is the motion to insist on MRNA shots for everyone when they have more risk and less efficacy? They don't do anything to stop 20% of the country dieing from their choice to smoke cigarettes.

Why are they so opposed to me having a 0.01% chance of death from not getting the shot?

It doesn't make any sense if you actually look at the facts.

And if you are so sure it's good and safe and it wors, do it. I don't care. But why do you feel the need to force others into it?

You're a sheep. You only know what they tell you and you don't think for yourself. They told you anyone who does is bad so, that's what you think.

I stopped wasting so much time trying to explain it.

You have to be asleep before you can get woke. I've been awake and paying attention the whole time so, you think I'm crazy when the truth is you have had your eyes closed.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

And, the sad thing is you think my username is relevant.

You only thing it's an insult because you don't get it.

My grandmother was a native and a republican mayor. Her town kept electing her after she stopped running.

You're the kind of person who chooses to live in a cesspool like Chacago then says trees are racist because you cut yours down.

I'm not lost at all. I love it out here. Especially because people like you are afraid of bears and spiders so you stay the fuck away.

You need a path with a sign to get anywhere. We don't. You just don't get the name because you only know what the corporate media tell you. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I have an IQ higher than 999/1000 people in the US according to government tests.

Your name is "friendlybro79" like you're a 40 year old man trying to sound "hip" with the urban teenagers.

Maybe you should stick to quoting left wing news sources you recognize.

I chose the name on purpose. I understand you don't get it. That's a you problem. You only walk on the sidewalk because you can't think for yourself.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Why would the news lie? And the hospitals? And the drug companies?

Hundreds of billions in profits.
Saving face.
Fooling people like you into taking their drugs.

And that's if you trust the government wouldn't try to take the opportunity to put something else in the shots...

Why wouldn't they just make a normal Vaccine that works and doesn't kill people? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You're xp level 5. You've posted 19 good answers. And now I see how some people have stats like that. 😂🤣😂

[Friendlybro79]

@Lost_in_the_Woods Making fun of my age and now my score on GAG lol. Ok Mr. High IQ you've finally got me. You really used all those extra brain cells and showed your dominance. Keep bragging if you need to feel better about yourself. I understand. Feel free.

[summiter]

Not for me. My arm was slightly sore but I went for a long run the next day and had sex... all was fine.

[Levin]

Show off

[summiter]

@Levin Not trying to be... it is just what it it was nothing more... but the run and the sex were fun!

[OlderAndWiser]

I had a Pfizer covid booster and had absolutely no sides effects from it.

[Year3000]

Not the first time or second time but the third time I did.

[OlderAndWiser]

I had no reaction or side effect from any of the injections.

[Year3000]

I only did from the third one.

[CapnHawk]

It varies from person to person. I got the Moderna booster and all I got was a very mild sore arm.

[Year3000]

Pfizer gang here!

[Anonymous]

Well whatever brand of a shot you received, I’d reach out to that manufacturer and company. But again, u chose to get that shot so there’s no sympathy for you.

[Friendlybro79]

No one is asking for your sympathy anon. Hope you don't learn the hard way. It's miserable way to go

[Opinion Owner]

Awe did I hit a soft spot for u?

[Friendlybro79]

Not at all anon. Were you trying to hit someone's soft spot? Like I said i hope you don't learn the hard way. Bw safe. I've seen it happen to friends and family and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[Opinion Owner]

Nope I was not trying. I was simply answering the question.
However, there is aids and STD out there and no one cares or anything and they are worse than COVID in my opinion. People are focusing on the wrong thing and not thinking for theirselves. It’s like watching buffalo run off a clif

[Friendlybro79]

Anon people care about all those things. They all matter. Clearly like you said this is your opinion and not based in facts. They're all horrible.

[ElizaPam]

I'm not getting another shot I regret the first 2.

[sage2021]

I did ok with the 1st shot, but the second shot made me terribly sick. In bed for five days, vomiting, whole body pain, etc. No more shots for me either!

[Year3000]

The first two I had no side effects.

[Anonymous]

I heard so many bad reactions from other people.
I got mine & my arm was only sore for 2 days.
I had both of Pfizer.

[Anonymous]

The first jab was the worst for me. Second and third not so bad.

[RobT312]

Yes, Worse pain in arm! Otherwise was ok

[Year3000]

I had a fever though on top on that.

[RobT312]

Aww man that sucks. Fever Happened to me with shot #2

[Year3000]

It was only for a short time I feel normal now.

[Fuentes]

All of you are lab rats

[Year3000]

I’ll take it over covid, it was that bad.

[Fuentes]

I never got it

[Year3000]

You are lucky son, everyone got this shit in NY.

[whosnumber1]

I had no side effects from either. nothing.

[Year3000]

I didn’t from the first two.

[Pterodon]

I didn’t experience anything

[Year3000]

It sucked you are lucky

[Fromdusktilldawn]

I only had a light headache for 1 day

[joeldalton]

Sucka.

[Year3000]

When did you get the booster shot?

[joeldalton]

Never.

[Year3000]

I don’t have work tomorrow so I’m like whatever you know? Just going to my girlfriends crib in Brooklyn for Thanksgiving. You should be fine with 2 doses I wouldn’t worry.

[joeldalton]

I’m even better with 0 doses.

[shades777]

im gonna say death?

[Year3000]

Still here.

[noohair]

Which one?

[Year3000]

Pzifer third dose.

[noohair]

Are you getting better?