Marriage has never ended in divorce

[IcedLemonade]

I dont believe modern marriage is a good idea. But do what you want, It's not my life I'm talking about. I've never even been married.

But I still haven't ever met two people who were truly married anyway. in the western world actual marriage has been extinct for over a century.

What you call marriage is really elopement. It's an adjunctification of two people, traditionally a man and a woman, but not the traditional definition where 2 sexual beings become 1 asexual being.

Thats what marriage is, and it doesn't happen anymore. We've forgotten so badly what marriage that we even think 2 of the same sex can be married. How can 2 of the same sex become a complete being together?

Calling that marriage is like boxwine being called champagne.

It's always been about money and security. A lot of people get worked up over that. But usually marriage happens for practical reasons. Unfortunately, the main reason today seems to be for women to extract money from men

[t-8900]

Marriage is worth it, outside of western nations. There's no reason to invest in a modern western woman when her investment in you typically ends after every date. She might let you "get lucky"... for a price. She'll be letting the other guys get lucky for free. Get yourself ripped and some courage, and bam you got her as many times as you want her. Otherwise you need to shell out cash. Money is basically the only way to a woman's heart. Give her no fault divorce and she doesn't require love in her life. I cannot WAIT to leave the USA for good. If I decide to have kids I'll make sure they stay for away from the Whore Of Babylon we call the "United States Of America". Run by a bunch of miserable, degenerate, Sodomites.

[OddBeMe]

Marriage is “two sexual beings becoming one sexual being”? How does that work?

could it be you're putting too much thought into the idea of civil unions?

[IcedLemonade]

No I'm repeating what the inventor said

[OddBeMe]

If you don’t understand it then how can you beleive it?

[Titanya]

I agree and disagree with some of your points... too much to get into right now but on the topic of marriage and how its suppose to be ideally and how it is intended to be, I've witnessed that and I've also seen unhealthy relationships that were like marriages in the sense of people living and communing together. If you want true marriage you have to choose your partner wisely and work willinging everyday on perfecting your relationship to the linking of yourself and your partner's. That's what I I transcribe to and possibly want someday.

[lizchill]

Marriage is about love and commitment. Everyone even homosexuals have the right to love and commitment thus the right to marriage as well.

[IcedLemonade]

36😂

[G5TWA1]

@icedlemonade oh ok, you're just a troll, for a moment there I was afraid you were being serious

[lizchill]

@icedlemon what's your deal?

[Guy13]

Marriage are two beings intelligently designed in Form, Function and Purpose to reproduce, spread, and take dominion over the earth. They are to leave all and cleave to one another as one Flesh. As one flesh they are to serve one another with humility and joy. In Christ Jesus is the key to this along with Ephesians 5.

[OlderAndWiser]

If " the main reason today seems to be for women to extract money from men" then why do men get married?

[Nata2496]

Modern western marriages are a complete mess. If you believe a marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman who aim to bring one another closer to God, then it can be worth it. If you see it as a financial, legal, or social contract that anyone can enter into for their own gain, then, yes, it has failed.

[ninaneedshelp]

2 of the same sex cannot be married. And men can't have babies, but no one seems to care anymore. It truly disgusts me whenever I see men pretending they can do what a woman can and vice versa.

[t-8900]

nowadays we even have to worry about wifing up a woman who's had abortions in her past. God, what a horrible thought. Being married to a murderer and a whore. Yikes! I feel bad for the real girls out in the west who want to just be women. But sadly they are very few and dont speak up so they will be left behind as we who can afford to move to Cambodia, Thailand, Philippines, Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico, Indonesia, Guam, Taiwan, Moldavia, Bulgaria, and other places where the general female population know what a man wants a needs in life and CARES about their husband's wellbeing.

[ninaneedshelp]

@t-8900 seriously like the fact that they’re even trying to condone murder is disgusting

[t-8900]

my advice, get out while the gettin is good hun. You can find a lot of strong men in Eastern Europe. Learn a language on your free time, pursue a bachelors overseas, gtfo. Look at all the weak men coming up today in the west. Cucks sharing women, cucks being bossed by women, cucks getting beat by women, and cucks turning into women. This is what's left of the west, bottom feeders.

[ninaneedshelp]

@t-8900 if you want to find strong men all you have to do is go to Russia. No shortage there

[t-8900]

Everything is right with the people in Russia while over here everything is upside down, placed in clown shoes. The women in Russia are feminine and generally much more loyal to their partners. The men are very masculine there too.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

Marriage is and always was a creation of religion as a means of control.

[IcedLemonade]

Good control is good

[BeenThereLovedIt]

Not really. It's manipulation and greed.

[t-8900]

would you say the children growing up in two parent households or single parent households fair better in life on average?

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@t-8900 I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I can speak from experience which says that parents determine the outcome in the vast majority of children. Those without parents probably have it the worst in terms of chance of success.

[t-8900]

Right so marriage is for the most part the best thing for the kids. So it being a "means of control" is irrelevant. We live in a hedonistic society with unstable families that result in the epidemic of mental health issues.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@t-8900 No, I didn't remotely say that "marriage is for the most part the best thing for the kids"

Shitty parent (s) are shitty. Married or single, one parent or two.. doesn't matter. Marriage itself makes zero difference in the outcome of the child. Good parenting makes the difference. Aunt's, Uncles, and Grandparents also play a positive (or negative) role.

[t-8900]

Parents coming out of single parent households are more likely to have issues because they didn't have experience around a father and mother. They're less likely to get married or have kids in wedlock. They also tend to be more depressed and have self esteem issues.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@t-8900 I feel that's your opinion more than actual fact, but I understand your desire to embrace that line of thinking. And 20-30+ years ago, I'd argue that it was true.

Modern feminism has changed the parental roles today, and parents are no longer held to traditional roles like "man" of the house, and "woman" of the house practicing those roles. Therefore a single parent can be just as effective today as two parents were back in the previous generations.

[t-8900]

eh not if you have someone else raising your kids all the time and you can't instill good values in them. Ultimately I'm hoping to be able to make it so my future wife doesn't have to work more than 25 hours a week part time so she can spend more time with the kids.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@t-8900 I see your point of view, and even tried that myself - being the sole earner in a two parent family. It failed miserably because modern females aren't interested in 'traditional' roles, even when they believe they are. Common lifestyles just aren't compatible with those traditional roles and expectations. You can try it, and you may even see some success, but I think you will hit a lot of unexpected hurdles and conflict, just as I did.

My wife works a full time job now. We both do. The household as a whole is far more balanced than it was when she didn't work or when she worked only part time.

I was and still am stubborn, and had to learn those lessons for myself. I'm sure you will too, but good luck, maybe you will find a great white buffalo.

[t-8900]

@BeenThereLovedIt well i wasn't saying like forever. Just until the kids reached kindergarten. I don't know...

[BeenThereLovedIt]

@t-8900 I think we've gone way off topic here. A lot of women do prefer to take time off to raise a child until kindergarten, but it's pointless in my opinion. Kids only just start learning formative lessons at that age, and the kindergarten through high school timeframe will define them. That's when parenting is the most crucial. Anyone can teach the kid to walk, poop in the toilet, etc.. Do you remember your potty training? I sure don't. I do remember my asshole dad calling me stupid all the time from ages 6-17 though.

[t-8900]

I actually do remember my potty training! They had this little potty that came up to my knees that they had me crap in lol. I remember one time my dad was changing my diapers and I shot a jet stream of piss right into his face, hit his lips, nostrils, and it was so high pressure it hit the ceiling and sprayed back down. I shit you not lol! XD

[iBeowulf]

No true scotsman informal logical fallacy detected [robot dance]

[snackthatsmilesback]

I recognize 2 become 1 but where you getting the asexual part from?