I would want a prenup too. But the thing you have to realize is that very few people own a home without the help and support of a spouse. The majority of women work now of days too, so it's not just the man working to pay the mortgage. So that house really isn't just your house unless you have paid for it before she comes into your life or if you don't have her pay for anything. And even then, it should be an arrangement between you two. She works, just maybe not for money. Taking care of the kids and the house while managing other things is a full time job in of itself. I would say she should be entitled to at least some things or some percentage of the assets.
I often think people think and say that their ex spouse took all these things away from them. But I've heard a very different side of some of these stories. I've heard people who said they GAVE their ex girlfriend, spouse, ex boyfriend, etc... the house, or the car. Sometimes it's not about the monetary value. But about getting away from that situation. Some people truly like to cut their losses.
Plus you don't know someone's situation 100%. A buddy may say that their girlfriend or wife took them for a ride, but you don't know if that is in fact true. Just because a friend says that, doesn't mean it's fact. Everyone is guilty of elaborating stories and lying about things and leaving out important details to make themselves appear better.
When people are hurt, they want people on their side. They will say things to make you want to take their side. Remember that next time one of your friends calls their partner crazy or mean. What was the other side of the situation?
I know I would personally hate it if I worked hard for something, helped to support my future husband and helped pay for the mortgage and bills and painted the walls by hand and cleaned the house on a regular basis, helped to pay maintenance of the house. And then have a guy say that I am trying to take HIS house. Well if we are both paying the mortgage, then it's not just his house. It's our house, and we will have to figure out an arrangement that works for both of us.
Depends on whether you currently have a house or money but if we got together before that then whatever we will have we will have built together and both deserve an equal share, depending on who is going to be keeping the kids deserves to keep the family home at least until the youngest is raised then it should be divided equally or one buys the other out. Its also very important to recognise the real sacrifice a woman makes by bringing her partners child into the world, plus the sacrifice she makes if she chooses not to work. If a woman has three kids thats nearly tens years minimum she gives up if she decides to become a stay at home mom until the youngest is old enough for school, a ten year career break and loss of earnings is a lot for a woman to consider if a man wants her to sign a pre nup. It would be my worst nightmare for me personally to sign a prenup and have my future husband's kids only fot him to dump us and leave us homless for a younger woman, if I were to marry I would need to be assured of my future husband's commitment more than an expensive diamond ring.
I wouldn't like to get married without a prenup either! It's not because it's saying we won't last, it's not because the guy doesn't trust me etc. I want the marriage to be about love, not material goods and that's the proof - prenup and man, you're guaranteed I'm not marrying you for your money and things you have.
I can't stand those men claiming that marriage is only good for women and guys are basically in deep troubles if they get married. No, they are not if they are clever and sign the prenup! It's a proof the woman doesn't marry him for his money.
And although I am a very positive person, I was taught by my experience with my fiancee that anything can happen. Always plan for the worst - that's my life motto.
Before I'd say yes, but no. I would not. I'm sorry, a prenup is basically you admitting we won't last. On top of that, you don't trust me. I get it, women are gold diggers blah blah blah. But if for the whatever years we know each other and date before even getting engaged aren't enough proof for you to finally let your guard down, trust and love me, then we can sign endless amount of papers but it'll never happen.
Sorry but no.
This is why I date poor guys, even prefer them or unemployed guys, they're not going to question me why I'm with them, they're more likely to trust you, and you cannot have love without trust. You can't.
That's sort of like saying "Car insurance means we basically will get into an accident" it's a safety net
@StickStickity13 no, it's not. Marriage and accidents are not the same. Car accidents typically happen between strangers, marriages are typically with those you've known for years.
The point is that it's a safety net. Men have more to lose in marriage. It only makes sense.
@StickStickity13 no, the point is that he doesn't trust me. And that's false, men have more to lose in divorce. Which a prenuptial pretty much means he's already thinking about divorce. That's like saying I should be OK with him having a "backup", because he needs a safety net girlfriend in case we're to breakup. No. You either trust me or don't be with me.
Like I said, that's a strange way of thinking about it
@StickStickity13 that's how it was always thought about until courts fucked everything up and making it unfair to men. Still, no trust, no marriage.
You don't trust the man either with that logic.
@StickStickity13 how?
You don't trust he will stay because he gets a prenuptial agreement for his safety
@StickStickity13 no that's not it. I'm not "trapping" anyone, it's pretty much like if you tell your partner let me look through your phone or we're over. If you have nothing to hide, why does it matter, right? No! That's pretty much you saying you don't trust your partner, I'm not going to marry someone who not only pictures a future without me, but also can't or won't trust me. If I'm getting married I'm trusting you with my life. And you trust me with yours, otherwise, we're not for each other
That's wishful thinking honestly, Ideally the marriage lasts forever, but more often than not they don't
Relizing that people change over time this is a safety net. We get married at 22- 25 not to uncommon now. Or we have a baby both still young. But we are able to keep our head above water 1 years passes 2 years pass 5 years pass. Finally 10 years pass and you or I say but I heard like 75% of divorce is initiated by women you have changed you don't want the same things and you want a divorce. As you should bc we had a baby a little early and still hadn't fully matured. This is a deep subject aND saying he doesn't trust me or he's planning for divorce is a chea reason. If I have any amount of money and time why would I screw around with you and or a family when I can just save go on trips and meet girls at bars each weekend?
@StickStickity13 no, actually, the divorce rate is actually declining, even at its worst it wasn't 50%
@gmanhotman this is why I don't date just any man
@BuchitaBuchys what do you mean specifically not any man?
@gmanhotman I date forever or for never I'm extremely picky
@BuchitaBuchys forever or never as in that or you will date with the purpose of marriage?
@gmanhotman I always date with the purpose of marriage. If I don't see you as a future husband, I won't bother with even a minor coffee date
@BuchitaBuchys a good outlook to bad more people dont have it.
@gmanhotman thank you lol
This is why I find prenuptial to be insulting, I'm in this forever, if you have any doubts, we're just not meant to be. Provided there's no infidelity between us, I'm willing to work things out
@BuchitaBuchys sounds reasonable.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, prenups are useless, get tossed out and not 100% secure. Your best bet is just not getting married in first place. Even in a long term relationship/de facto/living together for 2-3 years, a woman can legally still screw you over the same way like in marriage if she gets a good lawyer.
Ohh yes my friend you don't have a choice when you get in to relationships/commitment with a woman... these feminists know what they're doing and they got us by the balls. Why do you think MGTOW exists? a lot of men are pulling out and would just rather get laid, sleep with whores, friends with benefits and have short term relationships becuase its our only option feminists have left us. Any right minded individual or decent guy would boycott commitment with women when they realise we are discriminated by toxic feminist laws.
MGTOW was created becuase of feminism, otherwise it wouldn't exist and I wouldn't be a part of it.
If you get a notarized it can't be thrown out but you have to hold onto the receipts from anything that you purchased specifically for yourself along with proof of payments made on anything used by both parties that is in both of your names. If there's a split in ownership, there's also the ability to split the value if a divorce occurs and a good lawyer will fight for that especially if you made her sign a prenup before marriage.
If done in good faith and honestly the prenup shouldn't harm either party as long as even work is done in the relationship. The only time it really hurts women is when they're a stay at home wife and have contributed nothing financially to the relationship with the exception of spending. That's when it gets murky because of everything being yours. But a prenup is a prenup.
@Gommers your obviously not getting the point, your making marriage laws sound more complicated than already is... why bother getting married? What do men benefit from it except less tax? If that's your way of pursuading me of wanting marriage then your actually putting me off if anything. I shouldn't have to go through all that crap just be with a woman. Is it worth the hassle going through all these courts, laws and BS just to follow some stupid man made tradition that's gone on for generations. It's the 21st century it's time we moved on amd advanced as humanity from all this orthodox tripe.
Women use marriage so they can nail down alpha males... period.
They are harder throw out than most people think:
www.cnbc.com/.../...be-hard-to-do-lawyers-say.html
I would insist on a Prenup. Men, check with an Attorney where you live to find out how effective they are in your area. There is a wrong way and a right way to get a Prenup.
Women initiate divorces 70% of the time. He will loose 50% or more of his assets in the divorce.
Go to the link below and Listen to what a Marriage Attorney has to say about Marriage in California.
I would also insist that a DNA test be performed on the children... BEFORE the Birth Certificate is signed. 1.2 million men are likely victims of paternity fraud each year. The URL below has the details.
https://www.rense.com/general51/chsup.htm
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No, by wanting a prenuptial agreement he is conceding to the probability of divorce in his mind.
Before my husband and I married we both agreed that "Divorce is not an option, Ever!" We believe that taking divorce out of the rules of engagement that it lessens the chances of divorce being a final outcome of our marriage. Now, if there were some sort of no divorce clause, up to and including Seperation with counseling I would sign that.
Divorce is too easy and acceptable in today's society, only when couples put their foot down and say (and mean it) Never in our house, will things ever begin to change. Naive? Nope, I just love my man with all my heart.
I'm gonna be honest here, many women do not have the same mentality that you do. Guys have every reason to be afraid of marriage because when we get divorced we basically lose everything. Many women pretend to be interested in the guy and set up a trap into marrying him just for his assets. If not, then sometimes bad things happen. I'm just speaking from a realistic point of view.
Depending on what is in the prenup. Obviously, anything that is yours prior to the marriage should def stay with you no questions asked, but if it's things that were purchased during the marriage that should def get split up, but at least you don't lose your ass on a greedy bitch.
I absoluetly would and wouldn't be offended, because I know that if things went sour (say a cheating husband, would def irk my last nerve) I would go after everything they new and loved. That being said, I would totally agree to protect themselves, from me lol
No, just because I don't feel comfortable with that idea of getting married with divorce in mind.
But recently I came across an article by religious person who actually said that it's better to do so/ the pre nup.
I was a bit shocked.
But anyway, I am still trying to understand it better.
I recently learned prenup is actually a marriage contract, correct me if I am wrong.. and by that I mean in the contract you can put your conditions that you both agree to.
So yeah, when I started to learn more about it, I kind of eased in to the idea but not to the point where I am perfectly okay with it.
When I see or hear marriage I think of nikah/the way we do it instead of the court marriage etc.
So in our way of marriage, all the things are already made clear; the procedure of divorce, who has to give what etc.
The scenario you gave, in that case it does sound like a good idea to have a prenup but eh I don't know.
I don't really see the issue. You can take it as 'doomed to fail' or you can see it as the logical 'if shit does hit the fan then I keep all my hard earned ___ I spent years of my life acquiring'. Rather than the other person being spiteful and trying to take everything, or just genuinely arguing over everything. Each person believing it's theirs.
It's kind of like someone suggesting you wear a harness when you're walking along the side of a cliff/roof/etc. Chances of falling may be very low, but if/when you do, you're really glad it's there.
But in reality a lot of relationships and marriages don't last long, so it's almost necessary for everyone in my opinion.
You'd best do more research. A prenup is basically worthless. Women have no problems getting them thrown out. All she has to do is say she didn't understand it or she signed it under duress, and poof, it's gone. And you refusing to marry without one counts as her being under duress.
In fact, research why you, being a man, shouldn't get married. When you see just how the System, it's laws, and female nature are all against you, chances are you'll rethink marriage. Assuming you have any ability to use reason and logic, of course. Some men don't have the capacity.
They are always challenged, but typically hard to throw out.
www.cnbc.com/.../...be-hard-to-do-lawyers-say.html
Of course you always here about the ones that are thrown out in the news, it makes it seem like they are easier to throw out than they are.
@genuinlysensitive
Are you willing to take the chance? I'm not. I've read about judges that love to throw them out. And lawyers that have said a prenup is just one more way for lawyers to get money out of people.
I know too much about marriage, divorce, and female nature to ever chain myself to a woman again, regardless of the presence of a contract that might not even be enforced, based solely on a judge's whim. Nope, nope, nope. Not happening.
I would have absolutely no problem with a guy wanting a prenup. If I were going into a marriage with assets I wanted to protect, I would want a prenup for myself. Sure, it's unromantic, but it's practical and only in place for worst case scenarios. You can't predict the future and being safe now is always better than being sorry later.
yeah I would.. I don't see a problem with it.. of course marriage should be for love but we don't know the future.. and who knows how it might end.. so if he wants to protect his money then why not.. it's his money not mine.. I'd do the same with my money.. and people who say it's about trust and blah blah should really think again because if you're signing a prenup.. it basically makes sure one's not marrying the other for money.. hence there is more trust..
I wouldn't marry him. Not because I want his money at all but because he's already decided we'll end up divorced and I don't want to live with someone who's that negative about me. Why stay with someone or marry someone you don't trust?
Because women initiate the vast majority of divorces
@StickStickity13 tbh if you rush into marriage shit like this happens. I also think there's a million ways to work things out before divorcing someone.
any guy without a prenup is a fucking moron of the highest order.
women initiate 70% of divorce. women are favored in divorce 7 to 1 (in USA and similar in Europe, australia, etc.)
nuff said... you shouldn't even get married but if you do, for fucks sake be a real man and protect yourself AND YOUR ASSETS.
favored 7 to 1 in court I mean
No. Your already self prophecizing the end of our marriage. I dont need my spouse to be negative. Relationships already end because people see divorce as a thing that could happen.
You want a prenup that's cool but you aren't for me and you should find someone who is ok with it.
I would marry him, and I do understand why a prenup is a clever thing to do. Many people don't believe they get divorced, but the end up doing it anyway. That is what makes marriage very tricky. But I still believe marriages can work, as my whole family is still married.
How I feel about prenups... it's clever, but I wouldn't appreciate it if it was my man's decision. I would never ever do these terrible things to my guy, and wanting a prenup sounds to me like he doesn't trust me enough.
Yes, because he is entitled to keep what he has worked hard for. Refusing to sign one would suggest that the woman in question is bargaining on taking some of what's rightfully yours.
Thank you. I believe that if you truly love someone, then you will understand why they've asked you to sign something that will protect them if the relationship fails. It's not a personal attack against the person you're asking or questioning whether the relationship will last or not, it's just common sense. These days, so many relationships end for many reasons, and as much as we'd like to have faith that the relationship will last, unfortunately it's not always the case. People change, too. Someone who says they'd never touch one cent of your money at the beginning of the relationship, doesn't always have that same opinion at the end.
Exactly!
People lack common sense and understanding!
Besides, a prenup is like owning guns: You hope it won't come to times of using them for self defense but the reality is, something CAN happen ANYTIME and if it DOES, you are prepared.
Signing a prenup doesn't mean you lack trust, yet there are some girls as you can see, who say so but the real problem here is, that they aren't understanding the concerns of their partner and aren't willing to think realistically and in the future. After all love is about trust and caring. Breaking up for that means they aren't caring as they think they are.
Man... So many people doing stupid shit.
Yep.
I would. Although i would be kinda hurt, because if he really does know me, he would know that I'm incapable of tricking him like that and leaving high and dry. He would also know that I'm not after riches. So that would make a prenup unnecessary if you're marry ing me.
Try to understand that it's not an attack against you personally. Many people trust their partners with their whole being, and end up being screwed over if the relationship ends. These days we have to protect our assets no matter who we're with. It's sad that the world has become this way, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
@helpmealitttle I know it's the "smarter" step to take, but it still shows a lack of trust in me
I understand. I've felt similar before, until I had assets worth protecting. I know all too well how many people have changed the opinions on matters like these. It's not worth the risk, in my opinion.
I can understand where a guy may be coming from considering a lot of women nowadays do marry for money. I'd be a little upset and probably hurt he'd think I'm just marrying him for money and stuff. I don't know what I'd do unless I was in that situation.
Do you now what a prenuptial agreement is? It is a simple contract.
How much do you think it costs to defend a prenuptial agreement when it is contested in a court of law? No contract is iron clad, and yes they often are contested when large settlements can be found.
Don't believe me? Ask Ivana Trump.
Most attorneys will advise against a prenuptial agreement under most circumstances except where significant assets require it.
Just my opinion
As a future lawyer I have no problem, I would eagerly do that.
I agree, It is somehow as if we already plan to divorce, but that can have its pluses for us and our children.(If we have one)
I do not marry to get my husband's property, thus it shouldn't be a problem.
I would and wouldn't take offense to it either. If a woman is offended by it then her heart isn't all the way in it and she doesn't respect you or your wishes and is looking to grab what she can if things go sour. Its good that you want to protect what's yours and on a side note keeping different bank accounts is always good too.
Seems fair to me. I've never understood why divorces dont already work like that. If you had something before the marriage, you should get to keep it. Maybe your future wife also has things that she wants to keep. Of course you would never assume divorce is going to happen, but there is nothing you can do if the other person wants one so you may as well protect yourself
Yea i would.. Id feel bad about it coz thats a sign u dnt trust me or u see a failure somwea along our marriage but am sure my love wld b strong.. Anyway, id also b a rich wife too so while you saving yourself incase of anything, ud also b saving me..
I'm not entirely sure. On one hand the idea makes me kind of uncomfortable, not because I want to take what isn't mine but rather the lack of trust I think. There's no way I would take my partners hard earnings like that. I think if I did get divorced, something that I sincerely hopes never happens in my life, I would rather discuss it and split everything fairly after the relationship ended, rather than during.
People can change, especially over 20 years, to give an extreme example: people who get brain injuries in accidents which changes their personality (but they're still fully functional so they get to keep the right to initiate divorce, etc...)
@JohnDoe3000 That just sounds gosh darn heartbreaking. And plus you see a lot of very happy old couples. It's not like life long love is impossible to find. I think the younger generations just lack patience.
It is heartbreaking, but it happens and of course people change/show their true colors far more often in less extreme situations.
If you're not getting divorced the prenup won't enter into effect anyway, so how can it be a problem if you think you'll never get divorced? A prenup is just an insurance. I get that it's not a romantic notion, but divorce is an asymmetrical threat (it's a bigger threat for men), women shouldn't complain about it because they have far less skin in the game. It's like someone without a driver's license telling a taxi driver he shouldn't get car insurance...
The only woman I would marry without a prenup is my ex-fiancée. She was a wonderful woman with a huge heart, and she was a hardcore devout traditional Catholic (pre-Vatican 2) for whom divorce was absolutely not an option that would even pass through her mind. There are a lot of Christians-in-name-only, but she was the real deal.
The only reason we broke up was because I fell away from Catholicism, and she couldn't compromise on anything, because she was so serious about her beliefs. She honestly should be a nun, but she wanted to marry and have children.
Sure, no problem. I don't want him taking MY money either if we split lmao (that's if I manage to save it instead of spending it all on clothes lol)
I don't know to be honest. on the trust side it doesn't sit well. I completely understand the logic and applaud the idea, but I would never marry a guy who believed in divorce or would think it is ever acceptable to cheat. so does that mean I would be ok to sign one as we wouldn't divorce, I don't know its kind of a bad omen. And if he thought I was that way included we wouldn't marry. I have a lot of pride and feel very uncomfortable about money so if something happened I would rather be homeless or have a poor quality of life because every time I bought something it would remind me that it was his money. if the marriage is done then I don't want a reminder of him.
that saying if I was earning more I wouldn't ask for a prenup. he can take whatever it doesn't matter I was the one earning so I can earn more where as he couldn't. simple as.
@singlebee I don't believe in divorce, If someone is at the stage where they are thinking of cheating then their are huge issues in the relationship that need to be addressed. Cheating isn't the answer. I am saving myself for marriage so would have the be certain before marrying that we are a team that can work. Marriage isn't easy and needs constant work. I wouldn't put myself in a position where the possibility of cheating could arise.
yeah I'd marry him. everyone has a right to protect themselves. say a doctor fell in love with a cashier, the doc wants to make sure the cashier really loves him and isn't just marrying him for the money
Interesting way to bounce the "but don't you love me" card back, I like it!
I honestly don't know hoe I feel about it. Like, to me it feels so untrusting. If you have any fear that your spouse is going to fuck you over if it doesn't work out why are you even marrying them?
Because you hear it all the time how they were 100% sure that they were marrying the love of their life and that nothing could go wrong. But it did.
@ThisDudeHere
Here's the thing tho... my boyfriend and I acknowledge that it's possible we might grow apart one day, but neither of us believe for a second that the other would ever intentionally hurt the other one. We just aren't that kind of people. My question to other is, if on some level you believe your partner is or might be that kind of person, why would you be with them in the first place?
@Sara413 I'm not trying to be a pessimist here, but people can change drastically over the years. I've heard so many stories where the wife swears how much she loves her husband and how she condemns women who are gold diggers and that she'll never become that woman herself. Later in the future you know what happens? Divorce. I'm just saying, you gotta prepare for the worst.
@dontknow12
If he wants to sign one, fine, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be a bit hurt by it and suggest we take a step back and consider whether we should be marrying at all.
I don't think the problem most people have is getting married without a prenuptial- it's getting married when they really shouldn't.
I can understand why you'd feel hurt. Believe it or not, many men want to get married to that special woman we can raise a family with, but it's scary. Just from the reality that a divorce could ruin your life is scary. It's not the right mentality but it happens.
"I don't think the problem most people have is getting married without a prenuptial- it's getting married when they really shouldn't."
That's nice but naive. Of course such people 'shouldn't ' get married, but will anything stop them if they want to? No.
I will have to agree with @dontknow12 - people can change. A lot. Even good people. Darth Vader used to be a good guy.
@ThisDudeHere
Peoples basic values don't change...
Excuse me but yes they do. I'm one such example. I used to value other's opinions far above my own, even if there was no need for it. I can shamefully admit that I was a whimp a few years ago. Now, although I try to be respectful of others, if there is no reason I should give a fuck about a person, then not a single fuck shall be given, beyond basic courtesy.
@Sara413 I'm still trying to figure that out honestly. I'm looking back at it trying to see if there were any signs that I missed. Because we started off great, and then it went downhill real fast. Not really because of how financially dependent she was on me (hence why I say this on a prenup post) but because she started to not trust my word and not let me have any time to myself. I gave her no reason to ever doubt me and I always told her everything that happened as it happened. But until I find out if I missed something, she changed pretty drastically at the end of our relationship. She went as far as convincing all her friends to hate me despite every wonderful thing I had done for her up until then, that her friends praised me for.
"it feels so untrusting"
^^ I can understand this gut feeling -- and, if the agreement is framed as something that the man thrusts under the woman's nose for her to sign (in the same way that you click "Agree" or "Don't Agree" to the Apple software agreement), then I totally feel the same way.
But, the thing you have to realize here -- and the thing that totally gets lost in all this -- is that THERE'S ALREADY a "pre-nuptial agreement" IN PLACE when people get married. It's just WHATEVER THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT DECIDES.
So... It's NOT a matter of "pre-nuptial or no pre-nuptial". It's a matter of "do we just accept whatever the current government lays down -- or do we set out our own terms, should we feel that it's necessary to do so".
The other key element there is the word "we".
If the couple decides that a pre-nuptial agreement is something that's necessary, then they should sit down TOGETHER and execute it.
Honestly, it would be best if EVERY couple had to execute some sort of
pre-marital instrument -- just so that they could actually have some sort of dialogue about this stuff, and not just avoid the issue altogether until it's too late. In the same way it would be nice if there were some sort of mandatory counseling for couples before they got married, and all that.
If it were mandatory, then that would take away a lot of the feeling of opprobrium associated with it.
@redeyemindtricks I completely agree with what you said. With that being stated though, I do not like the bias governments tend to have when it comes to marriages/divorces. This just makes it fair for what both people think is reasonable, not what the government thinks is reasonable.
Yes or no is impossible here. If you want to marry someone who already has a lot of wealth then you should expect a prenup. If, however, you both start from the same financial level then you should be working together and accept your partner 'for better or worse'. That's what marriage is all about. If you want to guarantee to keep all the money you have earned the don't het married, just hire a whore for the weekend occasionally.
Yes, because anyone worth being with would respect your decision. If she's upset by it, she clearly isn't all in for the love. You never know how a relationship is going to end its the practicle thing to do
Yes, I'm due my inheritance when I'm 25. I've got to protect my money.
Although prenups are not valid in my country.
Why not, i don't mind, i mean i get custody of my babies, its enough for me, i don't want to take from him. The divorce laws are really strict on men.
Prenup is good can't trust anyone anymore. i've seen something like that happen in my family from the last person i would expect to do that. so i'll definitely go for prenup, it's not that i don't love the woman i'm with, but it's because if things go sour most women try to get back at you somehow, and taking your money could be a way of revenge even if they don't really need it.
Man there's so many debates and arguments about marriage... I just wanna find my true love and be with her, I don't think that marriage is really important unless you're religious.
i personally think it's good to have a pre cautions. in our country, women are the one who wants the prenup, just for our pre cautions in the future, financially and emotionally.
I would, because I would do the same. Lol! Marriage is not a guarantee... I probably wouldn't marry to begin with. A promise ring is enough. As long as he loves me & gives me attention. 😂👍
Eh why would you do it, your a woman lol Marriage benefits women and women have never married beneath to lose anything since courts favor women. We live in a gynocentrism society that constantly caters for women's needs and privilege. How can you not see that? I think your talking shit.
How many wealthy women do you see commiting to cleaners, builders as such or just men with no resources? An us men are not wired that way anyway, we don't see women like ATM machines like you see us men.
@Mrwoo99 Listen, you don't know me, so the first mistake you made was assuming that ALL women see men as ATM machines. Just because you're surrounded by gold diggers, don't be bitter towards all women.
I could easily say all men are pigs & cheaters, the way I've gotten hurt before, but I don't, because that's MY truth, it's not THE truth. It's MY reality, but not reality itself. Today, I still love & adore men, regardless, because I've grown to be a much wiser woman, & I understand men a lot more.
I agreed to the prenuptial agreement, because I'm studying my MBA, & I'm going into the business world myself, so no, I will not be a stay-at-home type of a woman. I want to be independent, but at the same time I want a man. Whether he wants to look after me, is up to him, because I never want to be one of those women who sit on a man's head. I want a very dominant man, someone who has similar values, & someone who's just as ambitious as I am. I don't care if he makes more money than I do
Because I am in no competition with men. I like men who are able to lead me & the relationship, someone who is able to make sound decisions in his life.
I'm very much still a modest woman, but really, I don't care about marriage, I care about love & giving love, that's it.
The reason why I want an ambitious man, is not because of his money, but his attitude & sense of self worth - it exudes discipline, responsibility, maturity, & most importantly, confidence. I can't be with a man who stays at home & plays video games all day long, because that is NOT what I'm attracted to. I am attracted to a man who values his freedom & works hard to achieve his goals. If he's at home all day, or wanting to be around me all of the time, he will create no space for attraction.
If there is space/distance in a relationship, it creates attraction; which is why masculinity is what I'm looking for. A masculine man is a highly desirable man, it's been like that since the creation of men & women.
It's smart with today's day in age, I honestly can't blame you though it's sad to think that this will become the standard in almost any marriage.
I agree it is sad so many marriages do not last. Many people get married thinking they found the one and then it falls apart sometimes years later.
I don't blame you I really don't, I'm not really worried about it and personal I wouldn't, but I never have been materialistic.
As to if I would ever marry I guy who had one, I would sign it. It's not a deal breaker for me at least. And if he ever changed his mind it's not like it's written in stone.
Like I said I really don't blame you.
It wouldn't matter to me, I would just want him always so I'd sign whatever to make him feel comfortable and secure.
I wouldn't marry a guy who wouldn't want a prenup.
In case of a divorce I just need to know my belongings are safe!
Sure! Of course it's not a "sexy" thing, but it's practical. Being a successful lady myself, I would have no problem having some monetary security as well.
Of course. Prenup and postnup for extra security if they wanted.
Yeah, as long as you take care of any kids we have together if we split, I don't need your money or your stuff and you don't need mine.
If you wanna give me some money I'm totally okay taking 'em, it would be rude of me to refuse.
@Giacomanzo I'd assume we'd share custody if we had children, and obviously I'd still be in part financially responsible for them. But if you father offspring, obviously you're also financially responsible for them.
Why do you think I was talking about any kind of relationship? I just want some money :/
@Giacomanzo Okay then...
I wouldn't get married without one, don't really want to get married honestly.
If I did I want to protect the shit I worked for.
Why not, I would only hope that if we did divorce they have enough decency to want to make sure i'm okay in the end and vice versa.
If they don't, you've saved yourself from a gold digger xD
Yes. But ONLY if we drew up the prenup together with a lawyer and it was fair.
That sounds like a good idea.
yes it shouldn't matter unless you are just after his money and not for the love that comes with getting married
@singlebee i don't know honestly i don't care if a guy has money all i care about is his personality and the love that we can share
Nope I won't get a prenup. If I'm staying home for years taking care of our babies then what's his is mine. I would be screwed over if I signed a prenup. Unless the prenup had my interests on it..
As a future attorney I can unequivocally can tell you that it's very
foolish NOT to have a prenup. Men have ZERO rights in divorce court,
I've seen this time and time again.
Those things can get tossed out of court. If you don't want to lose your home and cash don't get married.
I look at pre ups the way I look at my guns. I hope I'll never need them, but I want to have them if I do. In other words, it's better to have them and never need them than it is to need them and be without them.
Fuck yeah, I'd only marry women if we had prenups.
I know men who are on their third wives already and are paying alimony with more than one job. Their lives were ruined because of marriage and divorce.
Wouldn't maybe without one. I want a prenup a pre prenup a postnup a post postnup a pre postnup get me everything they have
Yes i would and i would probably have one too. Wanting to keep what was mine before meeting him mine and sharing what we bought together is for me completely normal.
I personally want one as well, but decisions have to be on agreeable terms of course.
If they have been married it is not half of HIS stuff!!
It's had of their stuff.
i've never heard of prenups before? is it an American thing?
@Comawhite666, Here is more info on Prenuptial Agreements in the UK.
www.family-lawfirm.co.uk/.../prenuptial-agreements
Depends on who I'm marrying, and the size of his income doesn't have anything to do with it.
I would only marry someone who wants a prenup. I'm not prepared to get married without one.
Prenups can get thrown out on a Judges whim so of course women will say yeah. It's basically saying sure have your false hope of us not fucking u over in divorce.
Any rich person should get a pre nup first before marrying
Are you actually rich?
They really don't offer that much protection, judges throw them out a the time.
I think it's wise for everyone to protect their assets. In life we should always prepare for the worst but hope for the best.
She should! Responsible planning by a man should be considered a GOOD trait for him to have!
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