+1 yI ask this question to many girls. Their answer is, what is it that binds you two? Either by your choice or by reluctance due to some reaponsibility?
Children more or less act as a glue between parents. They sovle some problems the parents couldn't.
I also talked about this with my mom. She said, a child does not require anything but your attention for the first five years. After that, it is able to take care for itself.
Hence, she does not see any point in planning a child (but planning marriage is cool). Even when you are financially unstable. She speaks. Not I.
But, still, everything depends on the couple only. Some couples just don't want children. That is also fine. Just depends on the couple.
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Your mother gave some bad advice… it take a hell of a lot more than just attention to have a child, especially in the first 5 years.
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@Subarugirl agree. Kids need attention all their life.
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Child isn't an "it". Trust me. Once your child is born, theyre everything but an "it" lol
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I thought it odd too. Only attention cannot suffice. What do you think requires more? Consider financial problems to not exist. - +1 y
@mobiusforniner I didn't call a child and it and I do have one. He's 5
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It requires a lot of work, learning, patience, sacrifice, and effort.
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I know very few childless couples who are happy in the long term and don't have regrets about not having kids; in fact the only exceptions are couples who can't have kids for whatever reason, and most of them ended up adopting.
It's perfectly normal (and frankly probably a good thing to a degree) to not want kids at your age, but don't be surprised when your life outlook starts to change pretty dramatically in about 2-5 years or so, so I would advise not doing anything to screw yourself over in the near future.
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+1 ySome people can be happy and content without kids but personally I like children and I’ve known I’ve always desired to be a mom whether it’s conceiving naturally or adopting. Kids aren’t easy to take care of obviously as they take a lot of patience, time, finances, etc but I wanna have my little best friend I can go on adventures with in the world and see them grow and accomplish their dreams and protect them:) I don't know but to me a beautiful child can spread the love in a marriage between two people that care and already love one another.
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+1 yThe American Sociological Association recently conducted a study on this very topic and found that parents are more likely to be depressed than their childfree counterparts. In fact, people without kids were happier than any other group, including empty nesters.
so according to the research and the statistics, yes.
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534 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. Probably not missing a great adventure. And you will want lineage one day. Some of my family are 48. Kids out the house-university and they are like teenagers…. It’s cute and probably be grandma/pa by 56…😎
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u +1 yMost people who get married begin their mariage with no children, then they start having kids. I have met very few parents who expressed regret about having children. So I assume they are happier with children.
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+1 yThis totally depends on the married couple
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+1 yLast week while putting my 3yo daughter to bed, she squeezed my arms and said "daddy you have big arms". Im not even that fit but hey ill take it. I told her my "buff arms" will always help her and stop anything that tries to hurt her. She snuggled up to my chest and said "daddy, i wuv you"
As a man, I've never cried so much. It wasn't a sad cry... its just the pure happiness which comes from that little moment. How my 3yo girl, who's life purpose revolves around smashing play-doh and drawing stick horses, despite only 40 months of her little life, she still knows what love is.
Nobody can take that away from me.
Yes, kids are a pain in the ass. But i wouldn't miss it for the world.
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That’s so sweet and beautiful omg. I look forward to that someday when I have my own child!
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@Paulalove98 its few and far between. Kids are a ton of work and many times, it feels there's no benefit, physically and financially. But these little moments, those tiny hands, the mispronounced words, the giggles... these moments remind me that its worth it, and I will do anything to make my little ones happy.
+1 yUsually, when two people marry, the logical result is having children. Some couples don't have or can't have children of their own, and then some go for adoption, and others, as my wife and I, just live that way. I think that the notion "happier" to be not very relevant, because happyness is a result of a life well balanced between realization of tendencies and obligations.
Every genuine way of life may result in being happy, with or without children. The notion "children" can also be extended, for instance to house animals, artistic productions, inventions, etc.
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+1 yMarriage is a long haul with give and take from both sides. There's never 50/50 but it's 60/40 from both of you. Sometimes it's 100% taken care of your spouse. The other time it might be 100% helping you. Then along comes the children and you give 100% for each child. There's long sleepless nights with ill children. Putting up with back-mouthing teenagers. Putting your children through school. Then is there any time for you hell no. Not until the last child's out the door. By the time you take time with your companion and learn more about them, they may die.
00 ReplyI don't want children and I've known this for my whole life. That's why I will have sterrilization when I marry and engage in sex with my partner.
For my life I have other plans, my wife will be the most important person and our life will be just with the two of us. I don't feel love for babies, I have no patience for them. I won't want to make time for them. I would be a wonderful and caring husband, but not a great father. So I shouldn't become one.
00 ReplyThe "studies" that show that are intentionally deceptive. They need to survey people in their 60s that never had kids to see if they stayed happy long term without kids, which would not be the case.
There is no point in marriage if you aren't having kids together.
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+1 yDepends on the couple. For it to work, BOTH have to not want kids.
Personally, I want children when I am married so I am incompatible with a woman who wants to remain childless. This does not mean she has to birth the child, though that is my preference. Adoption is totally viable. Either way, having kids is one of my hard lines.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYes why not Marriage can be happy without children yes
But I’ll make sure there is a good reason why I don’t want to have children and not because “the world is overpopulated” this can be a reason but very evil and karmic to say. Humans believe it’s year 2022 and we are modernized and overpopulated so who cares.. life is ruined from man made rules where the ozone layer cow farts soy milk and watermelon steak gets more priority.01 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 y@monica3i Your question is too abstract to answer.
However I'd say, It truly all depends on the couple.
Some people want kids and without them they will be less happy.
Some people want kids and can handle them.
Some people want kids and cannot handle them on top of the marriage and life.00 Reply
+1 yObviously those years have past me by however there would have been no way I would have married someone that didn't want children. Having to live a life without children in it sucks I can attest. However God watched ver me as I could have had my children stolen living under a overpass.
00 ReplyThat would depend on if they both wanted children or not. If people get what they want they will be happier. So if they both wanted kids it would be happier and if neither of then want kids and they don't have kids then they would be happy. People have different preferences so different things make different people happy.
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+1 yI think a happy marriage is a combination of a number of things. Strong couple. Strong living situation. Strong support system. Some marriages the best part are the kids. Smart kids and immature parents.
10 ReplyMarriage without children is pointless. The whole purpose of Marriage is to raise a family. It is in actual sense not for the couple it is for the children. If you are getting married without having children in your mind, don't get married.
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It is not dictating. The reason why marriage came to existence is for the purpose of children I. e. raising a family. Unfortunately as humans we are extremely selfish and we always think, me, me, me, me, me.
And we have secoumb to the notion that marriage is for love. We'll, no one is going against that, but one can love without being married and a couple can cohabit and live happy lives without getting married. But as selfish as we are as humans, we have perverted yhe whole idea of marriage to the point where it is now about finance, status and the selfish desires we yarn for.
Just because we have freedom to marry and have no children, doesn't mean that is its purpose.
+1 yI would totally say so, and if I ever was to get married, which I don't want to am not keen on, I'd never want kids. It's selfish bliss for me in that type of marriage. as much as I thrive being single :)
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+1 yDepends on the couple really. Some couples marry, knowing ahead of time that they do not want children. For other couples, marriage is precisely for the purpose of raising children and having a family.
00 ReplyIf that is a question you have to ask, then it means you don't really see the worth in children. For people who want children, their lives will never be happier without children.
10 ReplyWhy not just take the marriage out of the equation? You can just date and endlessly have fun. What's the point of marriage if not for the sake of kids?
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+1 yBefore having a child, marriage is a marriage. After the child, they become "housemates", not husband and wife.
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Only if they fail
+1 yProbably not. There are so many couples out there who couldn't have kids and are sad about it.
00 ReplyMy wife and I are happy to have never had kids. Don't need the drama, responsibility or expense.
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+1 yI think it depends on the people. But I do think that the ones who don't use any form of protection and just start popping out babies right away have a more stressful life than those who plan their pregnancies.
00 Reply marriage is pointless without kids. and happiness is something within your control.
10 ReplyIt really depends on the couple. A lot of people are happier with children, others are happier without. Either way, I hope you have a happy and healthy marriage ☺️
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+1 yWas much less complicated, that's for sure.
A real kicker - life without marriage is MUCH happier.
Poll everyone you know. You'll find that those who were never married or divorced are FAR less miserable than those who are still married.00 ReplyIt can be because you can do what you want without having to worry about children. If you want to go to a sex party, then you can without your kid's friend's parents judging you. The only people who will care are those at the sex party with you.
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+1 yNo children force us to no longer be selfish they give us someone else to live for besides ourselves
which is why I can understand why people nowadays don’t want them selfishness is rampant in this current generation
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@Sasha0426 can’t evolve without children to supplant there is nothing more selfish than opting out of parenthood
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@Sasha0426 everyone can’t so the ones who can yet refuse to are doing humanity a great injustice
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@Sasha0426 everyone who can should have children
The problem is people still want to have natural sex but natural sex and children go hand in hand if you don’t want children you shouldn’t want sex either - +1 y
@Sasha0426 because life is about people we are only able to survive because there are so many people with different talents personalities skills and abilities that allows humanity to evolve and progress I know nothing about electrical engineering I can’t maintain a power grid, I couldn’t have found a cure for measles or small pox , I know nothing about automotive industry I can’t build a car or engine
life is about people we depend on each other - +1 y
@Sasha0426 a married couple? Or a husband his
wife? - +1 y
@Sasha0426 well I don’t know my parents actually well I don’t think it’s creepy seeing as how I’d most likely have to coexist with these people and I do what I can but I’m just saying I can’t do everything I need other people to live we all need each other actually
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@Sasha0426 well that’s the exact opposite of the point I was trying to make it’s not about me the people who are able to have children yet refuse to only do so for selfish purposes and to avoid the responsibility of being a parent and it’s sad because they see parenthood as a burden and not an opportunity to grow as a person
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@Sasha0426 let me ask you, Who else is going to do it? It’s completely mind boggling how so many women refuse to take pride in their womanhood men can’t give birth we will never be able to
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@Sasha0426 how do you know it’s bad if you’ve never experienced it? Why would you rather kill yourself? I hope it’s not just because it’s hard children also give a new perspective on life
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@Sasha0426 😂 what do you expect parenting to be like?
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@Sasha0426 that’s unfortunate but thank goodness there are women who don’t feel the same as you
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@Sasha0426 no I love women but I’ve learned that I can’t just see them as a means to satisfy my carnal desires I wish I had a father to teach me but unfortunately I had to hurt several women before I realized what I was actually doing Andrew Tate taught me that women are the most precious things on the planet they should be protected and provided for especially by the men they give their wombs to
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@Sasha0426 I 100% respect the decision but I can’t help but pity them also because they are depriving themselves of the joys of motherhood
It’s not all bad
Also did you see the video of the woman explaining what was happening in that video? It was roleplay but whether it was or wasn’t is irrelevant because the message he has for young men is very helpful Jordan Peterson said many men how by the way ( kill ourselves at 4 times greater than women go their entire lives without a single encouraging word say what you will about Tate but he is helping young men learn to love and value themselves what’s wrong with that? - +1 y
@Sasha0426 and most women as you put “ shoot babies out of their vaginas” so you’re saying I love most women
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@Sasha0426 motherhood is about thankless self sacrifice women who fail to see the value in it are usually too selfish to see anything good from putting others before themselves
You don’t seem to understand that motherhood isn’t about the woman at all - +1 y
That’s totally fine if you believe that. Because I’m going to live my life how I please. But, let me tell you something. Just because a woman has kids, doesn’t always mean she’ll be a good mother. I don’t know who raised you to think like this, but it needs to stop because it’s very disrespectful. You need to stop badgering women to birth babies and just shut the fuck up.
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@Sasha0426 never said that I don’t know you the only Thing I can determine from what you’ve said is that you’re selfish for not wanting children im sorry if that upsets you
But women birth babies and they have to because they’re the only ones who can
It’s your life you can do as you wish but you not wanting to have children is selfish sorry if that upsets you
not having children doesn’t even give you the opportunity to be a good mother
The women through out history who opted out of bearing children have no legacy their lineage dies out they die being nothing with no one to mourn or Remember them “ The dead only truly die when they are forgotten” children supplant us and carry on our will and bloodline
Birthing children is the duty of all women who are able - +1 y
@painusdeeanus actually, there is nothing MORE selfish than HAVING children which adds to the carbon footprint in damaging the world. Super selfish and self-absorbed for a person to think *their* DNA is this special thing that needs to be around in the future: it doesn't.
Selflessness would be the opposite: sacrificing the biologically imprinted prime directive for the good of everyone else. - +1 y
@Sasha0426 your mother didn’t wish death on you she had you. If she didn’t you wouldn’t be here
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@zeitgeist057 well that’s a weak argument because if we stopped having children we wouldn’t need to preserve the earth any longer humanity would no longer have a future aren’t you aware that human history is filled with generations overcoming hardships that plagued the ones who came before them even though we may not solve the issues of climate change or world hunger in our lifetimes we owe it to the next generation to keep trying just because we don’t have answer doesn’t mean they won’t do you think that humans who discovered the brick and thought it was just the greatest invention of its time ( which it was ) would have ever thought that we could put a man on the moon? Of course they wouldn’t they would’ve called you crazy if you even said some shit like that
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@Sasha0426 why wouldn’t you rather have humanity be fruitful and happy? It’s possible but it’s gonna require a lot of hard work starting with thinking of others and not just ourselves
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@Sasha0426 No that’s the wrong attitude to have stop thinking like a loser you’re better than that
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@Sasha0426 no I don’t your value as a person isn’t defined by whether or not you have children and it doesn’t make you any less of a woman
But your thinking so negative such a defeated mindset with so much life still ahead of you is a sad state to be in - +1 y
@painus not really, there's over 7 billion people on the planet so not everyone needs to stop having children but if even 99% of people would stop having children there would still be heaps of people on the planet and they don't add anything having millions upon billions more. Who gives a shit about inventing a brick or putting someone on the moon? It's not important to anything other than humans, who get all crazy and kill each other about TV shows and which sports team put more round objects into the goal area during a timed period. Humans are ridiculous. I am aware of human history of humans bashing each other's heads in and stabbing each other and figuring out various ways to murder and enslave each other and it keeps going on and on. Human trafficking now just as much if not more than slavery in the past.
Here is human history summed up in a 3 minute cartoon: https://youtu.be/9x7FGbW3IVc - +1 y
@PainusNdeeAnus I think nowadays because of how crazy things have gotten in the world it makes it scarier and inflation is awful but I know I still wanna become a mom within the next 5-6 years for sure:)
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@Sasha0426 just know this guy is full of it. Women who choose to be mothers usually do so for selfish reasons, like they want to have a baby because they feel no one loves them but a baby will HAVE to love them because they are the mom. Or because they want to keep their relationship with their man, and the man is also selfish wanting a baby and it has to be HIS baby from HIS penis or he won't love it why? Because he is selfish and only cares about himself and his penis and his DNA. This BS you're getting fed by this guy is just more twisted selfishness that people try to fool themselves with pretending like they are wholesome when they're not.
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@zeitgeist057 no you just think like a loser with a cup half empty mindset you think it better to save than it is to address the problem decreasing the population doesn’t solve the problem it only gurantees that future generation will suffer for it later procrastination is not a solution
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@zeitgeist057 if everyone thought like you we would still be living in caves
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@zeitgeist057 Oh, yeah. I agree. This guy just wants to make women feel bad and guilt trip them into getting pregnant because it will make him feel empowered. He wouldn’t make a good father either if he had two daughters. He would guilt trip them into having kids.
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@Sasha0426 it's pretty obvious he's abusive and angry and doesn't give a shit about others with the way he talks to you and me. It's a delusion he wants to sustain about having children, but truly it's a self absorbed act to replicate yourself.
@painus you're the loser here bub, you don't have an argument only name calling and BS about what you think I believe when you don't know a thing about me. Wake up you're wrong on all counts. State your own opinion stop acting like a little bitch trying to put words in my mouth. - +1 y
@zeitgeist057 okay.
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I thought you guys were having a good debate. There was really no need to make it personal.
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@Jamie05rhs I didn’t even think it was a debate but a conversation that needs to had because it will only take one generation with that “ Having kids is selfish I want freedom mindset” For humans to be extinct what is the point of saving an earth with no one on it
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Lmao. You really think humanity is going to die out just because a few folks don't reproduce? Come on, man.
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@Jamie05rhs it’s not a few folks because these people are encouraging young people not to have children because it’s so terrible and hard which is really bad for us because they’re the only ones who can have children you know how many little girls think they can wait till 30 to have a family and the boys are completely opting out of dating have you been living under a rock the west is on the brink of destruction
Do you know who made TikTok ( the Chinese) but they don’t let their children watch it anymore than a few minutes a day and it’s only diy science projects and patriotic videos but in the west we let our kids watch nonsense 24/7 the number one job the youth in our culture wants is to be an influencer the number one job Chinese youth wants is to be an astronaut
Compare these two societies in a few decades it’s not looking good for us - +1 y
@PainusNDeeAnus. That's a cultural problem. It only applies to the West. The people in the Third World countries are still having plenty of babies.
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And I agree with you regarding TikTok.
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@Sasha0426 The Chinese government is using that app to spy on you. I would recommend transitioning to something else.
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@Jamie05rhs do you know anything about history? What happens to weak nations who lose their structure?
Several countries are making premarital sex illegal in some African countries it’s punishable by up to 5 years in prison
Japan is in a similar situation as us kodokushi numbers are skyrocketing because the young men over there don’t want to date and would rather play videos games and collect manga than approach women
It’s a big problem because it’s the people who are in their peak reproductive stages not wanting to have children 18 to 29 - +1 y
@PainusNDeeAnus Oh, I know. But thats why they're trying to fix those numbers with massive immigration.
But we're not talking about individual nations. The discussion being had here was the population of the entire planet. - +1 y
@Jamie05rhs only because climate is the dumbest excuse people have for not wanting kids
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@PaninusNdeeAnus Yeah, so? No one cares how you feel. Just shut the fuck up already 🙄 You’re annoying as fuck.
@Jamie05rhs I’ve already made tons of videos on TikTok and met awesome friends on there 😊 - +1 y
@Sasha0426 and how is your marriage and children going?😂
Yes, and if you are both child-free that does give you lot more options to do things. Including monetary reasons.
00 ReplyMarriage without children is fruitless, and why marry someone who don't want children?
00 ReplyYes i believe so i also don't want children this world is a dark cold cruel place i don't want to bring my children in this worthless world to suffer
00 Reply858 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. i know people who are married and do not have kids. They seem to enjoy being able to travel and have nice cars.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yChildren are wonderful, but I don't know how you can afford them with a retarded president like Biden.
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Opinion Owner+1 y@Subarugirl
How is that any of your business?
Opinion Owner+1 y@Subarugirl
I'm guessing you voted for him.
+1 yNo, the purpose of marriage is precisely to have children.
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Ehhh wrong
Nope. Happily married to a beautiful Chinese girl and we have one son together who is now 10 years old. 👍🙂
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yHonestly, it's not really clear what the point is of marriage without children. If you're not going to have children there isn't much point in getting married--just keep dating exclusively if you want.
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+1 yDepends on what you want, kids can be fun but stressful but not having kids opens up your relationship to travel and can feel more like an adventure
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+1 yThe whole purpose of marriage is to start a family.
I don't think marriage will make somone happy.
Happy starts with you and God, not another person.
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+1 yFor me yes, or at least it will be once I find a match.
00 ReplyIt would be, if either or both of the spouses didn't want children.
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+1 yWhy get married if you are not going to have children? This just seems like a female retirement plan.
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+1 yIt's definitely cheaper without kids. Some people don't want to have children. Others want them. It all depends on who you talk to.
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+1 yWill save money but these people usually end up getting 3 dogs.
00 ReplyDepends on what makes you happy. Me: sleeping late. Drinking. Few responsibilities. Yeah better.
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+1 yPossibly, do more stuff together and it be cheaper lol go on holiday and stuff
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+1 yObviously that depends on what they want out of their marriage.
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+1 yFor some, yes. For others, it’s absolutely tragic.
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+1 yno way kids bring so much joy
00 ReplyNo, usually it's the opposite
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+1 yProbably depends on the people in the marriage
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIt's kind of pointless, and unethical
00 ReplyIt depends on the couple and there goals.
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+1 yThe personal relationship is stronger
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+1 yYeah
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True usually
No! mmm
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