How much do you think an engagement ring should cost?

I am a retired jewelry store owner/goldsmith.
The old adage was 2 months' salary, coincidently that was initiated by DeBeers, the cartel that marketed diamonds.
Gee go figure.
Before I retired it really seemed to depend on each couple.
Many did not want a traditional engagement/wedding set and opted for a colored stone ring with a stone that she really liked.
I am in a blue collar area, and many guys couldn't wear a ring to work or on the farm, so they never got one, or just something inexpensive to wear at the ceremony.
And then there were a few that had to go in debt just so their diamond was larger than their friends.
I couldn't see spending that much.
I would rather put the money towards a house, but it was just what they had to have.
Sadly many marriages failed but the payments on the ring lasted way longer than the marriage.
They were so upside down in it that even if they could sell it for a decent price they still owed money on it.
Not a smart position to be in.
My suggestion is to figure out how much you are comfortable spending on it.
Get something too large and it is hard to wear.
Consider what you do for a living and if you can wear it to work.
I had many brides in health care that were going to wear their rings even at work, but within a few months of trying to get their gloves on and off 100 times a day they gave up on that and bought a plain wedding ring, or a nice anniversary band to wear at work.
The certain styles will need constant maintainance because of how the stones are set as they tend to lose diamonds all the time.
Stay away from micro pavee with shared prongs, and the new very thin rings with diamonds set in the band.
The trouble with those is that when they flex while wearing it the stones fall out so it will be in the shop quite often.
So do what works for you, not everyone else, and get something that you can afford, and after 25 years you can upgrade to a larger stone.
I had many guys wanting to do that for thier wives but they were too attached to their original ring and didn't want to trade it in.
I bought one for my first girlfriend (ex) and it cost me over $200.00, and she ended up breaking up with me so that was the end of our relationship, but I should have known better.
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I have two personal opinions lol. Firstly, the cost of the ring honestly doesnāt matter to me, what matters is that the person truly loves me and is loyal etc., those traits are priceless. Iāve heard people saying that the cost of the ring = the worth of the person, I disagree with this. But if I have to give my opinion on a cost, then I suppose $1000 max is pretty decent, that is considering the specific style of ring I prefer though. Various styles, material and location (including country) bought will differ. I personally think anything near $10,000 -$20,000 is sort of insane. I also donāt necessarily agree with the ā2 months salaryā saying.
I could be proposed to with a ring pop, and Iād still say yes! Do i have a dream ring? Yes. Its like $2800-3500. But I don't even care for rings like that. So i wouldn't care if the ring cost $100 or $1000. Its all about the meaning for me. I prefer dogtags and engraved jewelry over rings anyways
Gosh youāre so cute
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@nawtee_me aww thats nice. Even if it wasn't engraved, iād wear it cause its a dogtag
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There's the oldschool 3 month's salary rule of thumb. In the end I just think you should figure out what sum is reasonable and go with that. You can always decide to upgrade it after if things change.
That said I am rather against the whole notion. For one diamonds are technically forbidden by the church historically as they go against the religious meaning of the ceremony. As is gold and silver for that matter.
More than that though, diamonds are easy to reproduce and only maintain their worth by the agreed upon monopoly that only allows a small portion onto the market every year. It is expensive not because it is rare, useful or precious but because some people did a bunch of ads and has since then illegally controlled the market.
But I don't really want to be a party pooper. I'd suggest looking at a whole bunch of rings together with your intended, maybe just online or something. You should get a decent feel for their style and price expectations from that. It also might be a rather sweet and endearing moment.
That seems reasonable
3 MONTHS salary? Why? That seems insane. Remember its really the combined money that is being spent - since once you are married, you are sharing assets. Basically the bride is spending a huge amount of HER money on it.
You are right that diamond prices are artificially inflated by a huge amount. The technology exists to synthesize them as well - jsut they always add yellow color to make them ugly (for industrial use only) so DeBeers doesn't get upset. (and possibly kill them).
3 months is the narrative these very same diamond distributors made a thing. It is however the most recent historical frame of reference that a large amount of people have agreed on. So for a lovestruck person wanting a socially expected figure that people will agree with? That's the best figure we have. The second best if in the U. S is 6000$. That's the supposed average at the moment.
I assure you I personally find it bananas. But I am also a cynic who points holes at most things and more importantly not about to marry anytime soon. The church historically forbids any fancy wedding rings. The real origin is wreathes of flowers and alike. Copper was really daring and scandalously wrong when it came around. Silver and Gold? Sinful. The church was openly outraged as this misrepresentation of a holy ceremony. Diamonds might have made the church condemn you openly.
I also as mentioned find it absolutely silly to pay an artificially inflated price rather than have an artificial diamond made that would be more impressive in every way - and just as real. A lab diamond is in every single metric the exact same as a real one. Difference? Way cheaper, not mined but created through the same but sped up process. Other than that, identical. So I am all with you, synthetic diamonds are the way if you like diamonds. But its just a thug-driven monopoly.
Personally I prefer silver. Most aesthetically pleasing to me. So I'd rather have that. If my S. O wanted a diamond she'd get one. It means nothing to me, I find it silly, but I can indulge some irrational silliness if it makes her happy.
While I know I went on a whole tirade and tangent, I really agree with everything you said. Its just, my view on it isn't very informative for the question. I did include it too though. More than once!
There is never a mandatory cost. The whole "3 months salary" is the diamond industry trying to sell diamonds. 3 months salary is absurd and irresponsible. You need to get something that you can afford. Personally, I think you should go smaller (not tiny, just smaller) with the engagement ring,, then let her pick her own wedding ring. Many times you can get them to go together to make a larger ring. I paid $800 for my ex-wife's engagement ring in 1989. I was in the Air Force making $820 a month, but I was deep in dept at the time.
Kinda messed up that the guys have to pay a fortune for the women, then we get like a $100 wedding ring that we pay for also.
Not a ring person tbh. I honestly think itād be cute if we got matching studded earrings but not many men like that idea 😅.
My fiancé and I can talk about something matching we could get each other. They donāt have to propose with anything. Iām really terrible with small things. Thatās why I donāt wear jewelry. I always end up losing it. I donāt want to spend money on a ring or wedding. Iād rather spend it on a nice long honeymoon. I donāt have any thoughts on how much it should cost, my friendās ring was like $300-400 and she loved it.
The ring that my paternal grandfather got for my grandmother was a plain 10K gold band. Even now I could one like it for $100 to $200 if I look around. I know because I wear it on my right pinky. If I could find a relationship like theirs I'd toss aside all my anti-marriage rhetoric and take the plunge.
Oh alright fair enough.
My wife's and my wedding rings are plane gold bands. No markings (unless maybe if you throw them in a fire...)
As someone that has NEVER been proposed in her life, I don't care about how much the ring cost. I'll accept a cheap ring. All that matters is him loving you enough to marry you. Many of us naturally already want to get married one day but the hard task is finding a man that wants that too.
I saw one that I really liked that was around $700. I feel like it could be $50 or a few thousand, whatever that looks nice and will last. I just worry if it is really pricy that something could happen to it where it gets lost or stolen and it would be a loss
The rule of thumb is one monthās salary. That way it scales with your income levels but does a reasonably good job of making sure youāve really thought about it and have the self control/negative time preference necessary to be a good spouse.
That being said itās the spirit of that sentiment that is important, not the dollar value itself.
If thereās no real bond/chemistry between the two, then it doesnāt really matter what the cost of the engagement ring is. It could be the most expensive and they might end up divorcing due to lack of loveā¦itās not a good idea to be so materialistic. It doesnāt help make your relationship any better.
Not much. It should be a symbol of love and commitment, not a bride price.
My wife still wears the little inexpensive one I bought her all those decades ago as a poor college student.
Thatās great to hear. Still going strong š«”
How much you want. Price doesn't really matter (maybe a little bit over 2ā¬, so it lasts longer than a month) but its the gesture and meaning which counts.
I respect that
I have never thought about it. Whatever he gave me Iād be happy. When I am in love I am a hopeless romantic.
Aww ok
She will wear it for a lifetime one would hope. Make it something that you would be happy seeing with her in 10, 20, 30 years. Even if you get a bigger ring later, women will tell you the engagement ring is the one that matters to them and will continue to wear it. I got engaged with a 1 ct and much later bought a 4 ct. She only wears the 1 ct ring.
Eh, I donāt really care too much about my engagement ring as long as itās of a good quality. I wouldnāt want it to cost more than $1500. Anything more than that sounds like a waste of money. Instead, you can spend it on your wedding.
Even $1500 is a bit of a stretch.
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As much as it needs to cost to make her happy? That's what my answer is.
Haha no I think he's serious.
@BoopBoopBeep One of the leading jewelers ran a commercial stating that an engagement ring should cost two months salary, so maybe that's appropriate.
Yeah I remember. I also remember laughing at that then. Hmmm two months of HER salary I can see. I'd never spend two months what I make on something you can drop down the drain. I'll take 3 weeks unpaid leave then we'll factor that in for the month and double it. Maybe.
Actually the women that I was willing to marry were similarly unimpressed with that notion, much to my enjoyment.
Whoever it is, I can seriously say "less than it would take that you'd have to borrow/finance it" Don't want to start off a serious relationship by taking on that kind of depreciating debt, and even more so if it would still be getting paid off into the marriage.
Only reason I asked this question was because I was watching a video. A male officer said 4K but a female officer said 10k
I've found so many women under 30 have no concept of money and are sickeningly in debt. How old was she? Any idea what their respective salaries are? If she's making 200 and he's making 40 that changes my opinion of her.
I don't know her salary or her age sadly. Thatās fair enough
I think there's a point of diminishing returns. If you're about to get a big promo at work and you have no debt, splurge a little if you want. If you're barely scraping by get something from the middle of the mall for $99 and call it a day. I think it would be somewhat ludicrous to put two months (someone said three) of my salary into a ring that would not be noticeably better to most people than something a fraction of that cost would be.
I want something really nice because Iāll wear it forever (hopefully) lol. But it really depends on what the man can provide. I wonāt ask for something outside of his price range. Also you could always upgrade later on. But I do really like engagement rings and want something pretty.
Hopefully this makes sense but however much he can afford on one of his toys he can afford on a ring.
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Just curious, do people sell their engagement ring after they buy the wedding ring? (If it's not one of those two-piece rings of course)
And I mean normal people, not rich people lol
Iām not sure, but a good appropriate one is a good diamond ring? Anything else doesnāt qualify?
Sure thing
Zero. It should be a family heirloom.
But it's to make the fatherless gimps feel less ashamed, that the "must cost a months salary" bollocks has come about.
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