Which girl would you want your Son to marry?

[KrakenAttackin]

Your hypothetical Son is 29, a medical doctor doing an orthopedic surgical residency, and is on a fast track to wealth and prestige. You worked hard to put him through all of his school. Which woman below would you choose for him to marry. WHY?

This girl is 29, has two kids from two different BD's is divorced, works as a bartender at a night club. She has some baby daddy drama, but says it's not bad. Constantly posts selfies.

This girl is 26, super active on social media and blogging, admits to an abortion, very feminist, has many tattoos and piercings, often goes clubbing with her friends. Is still "friends" with her ex's. Likes to drink and smokes when she drinks.

This girl is 21, a virgin, is a violinist for a small local symphony, works part time as a church secretary. Her only social media is private and the only men are close family members. She doesn't drink, smoke,. or do drugs. She wants to start a family and stay home with the kids.

This girl is 24, did Only Fans for a year, now works in HR, likes to go clubbing, dates several men at a time, friends with all ex's. Prefers guys as friends.

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The purpose of this question was to demonstrate the characteristics men value in a woman. The results speak for themselves.

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+1 y

So far 93% of men want #3, and yet women are arguing that she is a bad choice. Priceless.

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I am constantly shocked by how little women care about the woman their sons choose. It's almost as of you want your Son to be miserable.

[msmissydc]

I mean all of them have some problems I guess are problematic. most importantly is that he should choose.

First one seems ok. The problems can mean anything from totally fine to really problematic.

Second one: Seems to have fun in life which is important. Morals are ok. Dont like smoking but that can be ok. Drinking depends on the ammount. Friends with her ex could be a problem.

Third one: Seems boring and church is kinda a problem. Also quite young. She could decide to want something else every minute. (at least I would want to) as she is close with her family this could all be forced by her parents. All of this together seems at least weird. I dont want weird inlaws that would probably effect me personally the most. Could be no problem but you never know. Fine if my son would want to start a family otherwise I dont want him to get one when he doesn't want one.

Fourth one: Not sure thats an actual partner for marriage. Seems more like a side fling.

I guess the second one would be my best fit. If it wasn't for the "friends" with an ex.

[Violeta_54]

If he's is enough bigger let him marry me😅😅😅

[smashleyy]

None cause I wouldn’t be choosing the spouse of my son that is a grown ass man. 3/4 options are unappealing. Not as a whole but there are deal breakers mixed in but you already knew that. And the other option is just weird. I’d hope if I had a 29 yr old son he wasn’t trying to pursue a 21 yr old virgin as a wife. I’d question his motives. Is he too mentally/emotionally immature for a women around his age? I also think anyone that doesn’t have themselves figured out should be getting married and no 21 yr old gots themselves figured out regardless of how mature they are. people getting married too young to me is like couples that think it’s a good idea to get eachothers names tattooed cause they think its forever. Naive

[KrakenAttackin]

@smashleyy. "Grown ass son". You have completely missed the point of the exercise.

[KrakenAttackin]

@smashleyy. The purpose was to help guide your Son in choosing the woman who will bear your grandchildren. I know you are 20 and riding the carousel hard, but they to exercise a mature judgement.

[smashleyy]

what part on my opinion did you take up the ass why you felt the need to reply a second time almost 24 hrs after

[KrakenAttackin]

@smashleyy. Wow,. you sure are wife material 😏

[smashleyy]

thank you

[Avicenna]

LOL, the only one of those four women who is dateable is the 21-year-old. No budding doctor would date any of the other three. Nor would I.

[Avicenna]

I asked my sister, who's a doctor, what she thought and she said the 21-year-old would be OK with her.

[BlackBeauty90]

@Avicenna - and why would that be? Just asking as a friend, cardiologist, had something similar to the 21 year old as his 1st wife and there was nothing to relate on. As he put it - his 90 year old patients knew more than she did about what he did.

[KrakenAttackin]

@BlackBeauty90 the 21 year old he married probably had big cans and was hot AF, but no substance.

[BlackBeauty90]

@KrakenAttackin - ROFL. Not every man is an achieve nothing douchebag like you who looks at appearance only.

[KrakenAttackin]

@BlackBeauty90 Reported my comment, eh? Two can play

[Fuentes]

That chick is delusional lol she blocked me because she can't understand Africans and American blacks are completely different from eachother hahahaha

[worldscolide]

easy answer second to last. None of the others are worth more than a pump and dump.

[worldscolide]

@KrakenAttackin Of course they would say 3 is bad. Most women are too self absorbed to accept the truth when presented, Which is basically idiocy.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

None of them. I would expect my son, who as I come from a family littered with medical professionals will be a specialist like his mother is in pharmacy, to marry someone who is educated and able to contribute value to the household.

By value I don't mean income but being able to contribute to interesting discussions, be able to understand at least some of what he is talking about without having an idiot expression on their face, able to homeschool the children even given public schooling is garbage, etc.

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The only half decent one - 21 virgin - is likely uneducated and not world travelled and would literally bore him to tears within the first hour of meeting.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

Him being a GP specialist

[KrakenAttackin]

I disagree. A younger woman, who is a violinist can teach him music, grow with him, build a family together. This couple can have their kids young, raise them, then explore the world.

[KrakenAttackin]

@SakuraBlossoms87. Also, the more educated a woman is the much greater likelihood she will divorce him. A woman with a graduate degree is 90%+ the one to file for divorce.

[Avicenna]

Playing the violin in a symphony is an indication of high intelligence.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Avicenna Absolutely agree.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@KrakenAttackin - he'd already know how to play the violin, I learnt it in high school. I also play the flute, harp & grand piano. So she has even less value than originally thought.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@KrakenAttackin "This couple can have their kids young, raise them, then explore the world." - A typical working class mentality and which is not beneficial when a specialist or expert in a field wherein you want to be starting & running a consulting business or even, as it'd be medical, running an entire facility or hospital.

[KrakenAttackin]

@SakuraBlossoms87. So you think his marrying a "boss babe" is the answer? Having day care raise their kids? Their eventual career aspirations being in direct contradiction? Your assessment could not be more wrong. A man who knows the home is secure will go much further than with a boss bitch who is always playing tug of war.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@Avicenna "Playing the violin in a symphony is an indication of high intelligence." An meager increase of 7 points. When he is trying to explain his work or industry and she understands less than a patient conversations would soon get boring, revolve around nothing, and the marriage would soon end in resentment / disagreements and no common grounds. Not to mention if she is not educated she'd contribute little to the children's education and thus they would be forced to rely on tutors, etc. or send their children to public school with its subpar educational system.

[KrakenAttackin]

@SakuraBlossoms87. Holy cow, you really are full of yourself. Doctors are not Gods by any stretch. There are plenty of technical fields that require years of study and diligence. Get over yourself.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@KrakenAttackin - where did I say they were? You provided a scenario in which you asked what girl would I want my son to marry. As a medical specialist myself with a family littered with GPs, medical researchers, etc. I told you. None of them. Show some respect - if you're capable of it - and leave it as is instead of trying to foster merits of a girl that has little value amongst the educated class.

[KrakenAttackin]

@SakuraBlossoms87. "Educated class"😂😂😂😂. OK sister, I get it, "let them eat cake".

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@KrakenAttackin So you're incapable of respect? Hmmm no wonder you provide a scenario in which the "best" girl is uneducated and thus an easy victim to prey upon as she'd have little to no means to escape from men like you.

by the way educated class separates people who graduated university from uneducated, such as yourself.

[KrakenAttackin]

@SakuraBlossoms87. Oh honey. I did graduate from college and graduate school. I was an officer and Naval Aviator, and flew an F-18 until I was badly injured in a bad ejection. I have worked in the corporate sector, government sector, and have done both blue collar and white collar jobs. I have flown airliners, and I have been a truck driver. Some of the coolest and most wise people I have ever met are welders and truck drivers.

I will compare credentials and brain pans with anyone on GAG.

You may be educated but you lack wisdom. A wise person takes knowledge and insight where they find it, without bias. Arrogant people are convinced of their own superiority because they simply don't know any better.

[Avicenna]

I'd say 7 points of IQ is not "meager". And I wouldn't arrogantly assume that she can't contribute to their children's education. Nor is there any reason to think she couldn't get a degree. Plenty of mothers without a degree do a good job of ensuring their children get a good education. And there is more to raising a great kid than grades and formal education.

My sister is a doctor who's married to another doctor, but she says it's not necessary for the spouse of a doctor to understand everything about a doctor's work. Note also that one doctor may not understand much about another doctor's specialty anyway.

A doctor would almost certainly make enough to live in a school district where the public schools are excellent. Maybe they'd even have an IB program (I taught at two public schools that had them- lots of very intelligent kids in those programs).

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@Avicenna It's ironic that your sister says "she says it's not necessary for the spouse of a doctor to understand everything about a doctor's work" when she MARRIED a doctor. Talk about hypocrite and as such her options mean less than nothing

[Avicenna]

She had and would have plenty of options, especially since she is a doctor herself. I don't know how you got tunnel vision about this, but your bizarre ideas about this are way off. It is possible to take assortive mating too far.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@Avicenna Uh-huh.

[ta-ra]

I'd want my son to have a good girl, who will care for him I like have. One who respects him, cherishes him, cooks, clean, has good morals, sympathetic, empathize with him etc.
But I also raised my son to respect women, help them out, provide and protect. I raised him right so he would choose a girl who was also raised properly so that their children one day will also succeed in life.

[DarkWinterNights]

Based

[zeitgeist057]

I'd advise him to stay single, they're all problematic and he's way out of their league. The last one is probably the lesser of all the evils. I'm not even a MGTOW type, I think it's good to date. But just picking someone for the simple reason of not being alone is a bad decision.

[Curmudgeon]

Obviously #3, the 21 year old innocent, is best. But more importantly, let's rank them:

WORST: #2, The self-proclaimed feminist (Gender Marxist, Femicommunist). Mistakes can be made and perhaps even salvaged, but ideologies cannot.

SECOND BEST: #4, perhaps will wise up with age, does not have other men's children.

SECOND WORST: #1, one baby daddy is a mistake, b ut two indicates not wising up, and just plain too much baggage.

[WolfBaneHunter78]

#3

However, when there's no children what is she doing? They're not going to have kids immediately - he's going to be doing long hard hours, etc. in residency unless he expects to be more a failure than success and barely have time to touch his toes.

[KrakenAttackin]

@wolfbanehunter78. Maybe she will continue to play for the symphony and work with the church?

[WolfBaneHunter78]

@KrakenAttackin - ok. And what will she do that my son will relate to?

[KrakenAttackin]

@wolfbanehunter78. They will have to figure that out.

[WolfBaneHunter78]

@KrakenAttackin - So they've nothing in common?

[WolfBaneHunter78]

@KrakenAttackin "yet women are arguing that she is a bad choice" - I'm not arguing she's a bad choice. Parents who actually care about their children's well being indeed try to seek a good partner & that's what I'm doing by asking questions any intelligent parent would.

[KrakenAttackin]

@wolfbanehunter78. I posted below what men find valuable in a woman. Men want femininity, youth, beauty, faithfulness, and purity. With these basic traits all other things will fall into place. I think a skilled musician would have a lot to teach another skilled professional.

Together they will grow and explore, which is what they will have in common.

[WolfBaneHunter78]

@KrakenAttackin - what growth & exploring? When are they going to do this? A doctor works, at a minimum, 40 hours a week. If he is a specialist he usually works more particularly if he has his own clinic or works for a hospital. Or is your family GP so lousy that he's never on call?

[WolfBaneHunter78]

@KrakenAttackin "skilled musician would have a lot to teach another skilled professional." - A musician isn't a profession, it is a hobby unless in a band for moneyand if she is indeed in a band performing for money then she's definitely not innocent, so what would she be teaching him?

[KrakenAttackin]

@wolfbanehunter78. Are we reading the same lines? I said she plays violin for a symphony... not a "band". These two endeavors are wildly different. I agree that being "in a band" is a recipe for "sex, drugs, rock and roll". While a symphony is a decidedly profession endeavor.

Feel free to say you would rather have your Son marry a whore. Doesn't matter to me.

[Iron_Man]

He can marry her

This girl is 21, a virgin, is a violinist for a small local symphony, works part time as a church secretary. Her only social media is private and the only men are close family members. She doesn't drink, smoke,. or do drugs. She wants to start a family and stay home with the kids.
88%

[Iron_Man]

But he probably wouldn’t have a problem if she worked

[Siochfhradha]

#3

But can she cook?
Can she clean?
Can she speak any other language?
Can she play any other instrument?
Can she paint, how about photography?
Does she have any knowledge on child care?
Can she tutor the children or do they need to spend money?
Does she have any opinions for herself or does she repeat what she's told?
Does she have any education above high school?
Does she have any knowledge about medical or advanced careers?

My brother's a doctor, neurosurgery, and while he says #3 is the best most families with sons as doctors or any high paying professional career would expect much better.

Somone who can contribute to his life & not simply be a gold digger.

[KrakenAttackin]

@siochfhradha. Its amazing how threatened you women are by a young, attract, virgin. This is exactly what my question was designed to expose.

[KrakenAttackin]

@siochfhradha. Also, I am willing to bet the women other than #3 have zero of the qualities you describe above.

[Siochfhradha]

@KrakenAttackin - Why am I threatened? I'm asking legitimate questions. If she can't do any of the above why shouldn't he just hire a maid and not risk losing his hard earned money in divorce?

by the way I'm 23, accidentially put the wrong age, am part of a Shakespearean acting troope & haven't had sex in my life. In college I was approached by modeling agencies - real modeling agencies, you know like what Kate Moss & Tyra Banks does - if we want to talk about beauty.

[KrakenAttackin]

@siochfhradha. That's great. You have the opportunity to use your present sexual market value to obtain a very high quality man.

I agree this guy might do better to hire a maid and just bang escorts, and do sex tourism with his friends. He could also find a hot chick, fuck her silly and have a kid or two with her, but never marry her, and use his wealth to ensure he has full access to the kids. No matter what, marriage or not, he will have to paternity test his kids.

[Siochfhradha]

@KrakenAttackin - " very high quality man" - if what you describe is a "high quality" man I'd much rather become a nun rather than deal with what is absolute scum / trailer trash / vermin with no respect for his wife or children & who'll contribute less value to the family than a stray dog.

[Siochfhradha]

@KrakenAttackin - thankfully actual high quality men don't act like the good for nothing filth you describe

[Siochfhradha]

@KrakenAttackin - ooohhhh and since you have no knowledge of the real world #3 you describe likely would come from a old multi generation religious conserative middle or lower upper class - more likely to remain virgin than working class / welfare - with ties throughout the entire area and even further.

Not only will they destory the "doctor's" career, ensure he'll never see his children but they'll ruin his life to such extent he WILL commit suicide and there's nothing he'd be able to do because in such a region of American you fuck with those sorts of families... death is a mercy.

[KrakenAttackin]

@siochfhradha. Soooooo...#3 is a death sentence to the Doctor and the run through women are a better option... gotcha..😏

[Siochfhradha]

@KrakenAttackin - where did i say that? I said if he acts like vermin by sleeping around, showing no respect to wife & children, he deserves ruin and that'd happen with such a family. Is English not your first language?

[KrakenAttackin]

@siochfhradha. Where did you get that this guy is a man whore? I discussed with another poster that being a single man whore, without the risks of a wife, would be easier. But I would never suggest that a married man should fuck around, UNLESS his wife refuses sex entirely.

[BCA6010]

#3 and it isn't much of a contest. Really the only "downside" to her is that she's a bit on the young side for a 29-year old, but that doesn't come close to outweighing the baggage (or insufferable attitude) of the other three, with the information given.

[msc545]

So you list three very sketchy women. and the 4th one is almost a nun, and then you ask this obvious question? Seriously?

[msc545]

Sorry man, I didn't notice you were the one posting it. But please do explain?

[KrakenAttackin]

@msc545. No worries. My purpose was to demonstrate the characteristics men value in a woman and potential partner. In general, men value youth, beauty, purity, femininity, and faithfulness. With these basic characteristics a will do anything for a woman like this. Do you see how angry the women posting here are? The question was for these women to pick FOR THEIR SON. You would think a mother would want the absolute best for the son (you and I have first hand experience to know that is bullshit), but I wanted to demonstrate this with a question. I have a theory that many mothers are so jealous of their son getting a better woman than they were/are at the same age, that they will actively steer the son away from woman. The posters are not disappointing.

[KrakenAttackin]

As for the other three being sketchy, they actually seem like pretty average "modern" woman to me. I could be wrong. My GAG psychologist consultant may need to help me reformulate my thinking 🤔

[msc545]

Perhaps if you were going to do this again, you might want to characterize at least one woman as someone that even you and I would not outright reject, but might feel ambivalent about - like maybe a sexually loose physician with questionable morals and a drug habit? Compare her to one really bad example and one really good example, and see what happens. ?

You are right - very angry women posting here.

[Anonymous]

A history of bad and lasting decisions with multiple men leading to children and no marriage.

A narcissistic feminist who would likely resent our boy and/or convert him to get Marxist religion.

A discreet and level headed girl with no known bad history.

Or an only fans, club girl with multiple men held at arms length for occasional use only.

You're not making it hard for us are you?

[inhua]

this reminds me of the 2017 NBA draft where 3 out of the 4 players turned out to be busts. only 1 of the 4 became a legit superstar

[Exterminatore]

100% the third one. Ultimately it would be my hypothetical son’s choice on who he marries, but objective thinking clearly shows the 3rd one to be the best option based on life choices.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Haha, the 4%/6% are the ones who thought that was their resume you posted.

[DaisyM23]

pros and cons with all of them just as everyone has pros and cons

[KrakenAttackin]

@DaisyM23. Seriously? The question is, which one would you want your Son to marry.

[DaisyM23]

i picked the 4th option, similar age and good job
i know you prefer the 3rd option but i personally find a 21 year old dating a 29 year old to be a little weird gap since they'd be at completely different stages of life, nothing against it but i personally wouldn't since i'm close to that age, plus i'm not a christian and her only aspiration is to be a housewife at 21, again nothing wrong with that but...

[Drumlin2001]

It's a slightly bias set of options. 3 profiles with red flags so the only one is #3, but even that had potential yellow flag.
Personally I'd be telling my boy to keep working and wait for someone else to come along.

[Apple1996]

If my son's are still single by 29 then they are probably just losers that shouldn't date. They will waste the girls time in my opinion. Now if my son was younger I'd just go with whichever one matched his age. I don't believe in age gaps due to the failure rate of them

[SouthernWhiteMan]

So I am a fucking lover for being single at age 29? I never even had a girlfriend!

[Apple1996]

@SouthernWhiteMan ngl a bit. I'd hope my son's date/marry in their early years. I think it's important for self growth. Dating late in life like that suggest some red flags especially with how the person was raised. Would feel like I failed them as a parent

[Apple1996]

@SouthernWhiteMan it's more a reflection on the parents then the person themselves

[SouthernWhiteMan]

I never wanted to fucking be this way. I wanted to marry young and remain with my wife forever. Fuck this shit

[Apple1996]

@SouthernWhiteMan you can still do that. I think this scenario is kind of weird like I bet you wouldn't want your mom picking out your wife

[Juxtapose]

Easy for you to say as a woman who's not autistic lol. I am 34 and single, I have dated but dude.. autism is fucking hard. Hell even normal men have a hard time.

[Apple1996]

@Juxtapose that would be difficult to date with autism and yes you are right even some normal men have a hard time. Honestly I probably just got lucky getting with my husband. Not sure anyone else would have wanted to be with me long term

[Juxtapose]

You're hot and if you're not terrible to be around you can find a guy easily.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. Wait, what? Did you read the description of the Son? An orthopedic surgeon in residency? Loser? Fuck no, this is a man busy grinding out his future. Now he is in a position to pick the woman he wants.

[Apple1996]

He's a loser because he wasted his time on school and work. Didn't prioritize a woman. I wouldn't want to force a woman into a life where she was chosen as the final puzzle piece. Men tend to get into relationship just to feel complete in life not for actual love

[Apple1996]

@Juxtapose def not hot and I don't know I'm probably annoying to be around

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. I'm sorry but your response is pretty fucked up. You would be just fine with your high value Son marrying any of these four women?

[Apple1996]

My son's can marry anyone they want. It's not my place to chose for them. Only thing I hope is that they marry for the right reasons. Not just for another check off the checklist in life

[Juxtapose]

I think you're very attractive (remember I have nothing to gain from saying this) and I can't speak on your personality. You seem reasonable to me.

[Apple1996]

@Juxtapose awh thank you so much for the compliment 💗 you are too nice

[Juxtapose]

No problem I am just speaking my mind because I think you are underestimating your immense attractiveness and reasonable social skills. Your pictures make me weak in the knees.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. Also, the odds of a man getting through medical school and a surgical residency with a wife already are slim to none. She will hound him every day for attention and badly distract him from his purpose.

[KrakenAttackin]

I'm sorry but women are the killers of men's dreams.

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 a man is a loser because he pritotizes fat money and good life first over making kids with a women and struggling in this economy? Lol what no way

[KrakenAttackin]

@Fuentes Totally agree, a man has to grind out his future.

[Fuentes]

I don't think people are thinking about the economy and how a man cannot support a family with one average REGULAR income therefore he stopped and settled down first he would suffer and struggle, wife would leave him, end up child support & alimony and now a loser. Men should always invest in. themselves and marry later in their life's. Women pretend. to. love struggle but the MINUITE Their in it THREY RUNNING!!

[Apple1996]

I know quite a few women that are doctors wives and stuck through all their schooling with them. Even had a bunch of kids too

[Apple1996]

We support their dreams if they get with us early before going after them

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes yes a loser in my opinion. I would NEVER get with a man that was already halfway through his life and just wanted to pick me up because he was "ready" for a relationship. I don't play games like that. True love only for me

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes only thing I could see if a man waited till he was emotionally ready for a relationship but if they were waiting just so they could be successful that'd be a joke to me. So unattractive 🤮

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 so in other words if u never met ur man in highschool, u would settle down with a bum loser who works a regular 9 to 5 min wage job and live a life on food stamps. and struggle in a trailer or one bedroom apt somewhere with abuncha kids? That's a a SAD life bro and disgusting at that lol

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes nah I'd probably be with a woman if I wasn't with my husband tbh.
Really I just would never chase after a man that's only good for financial use. Other women might do that but it's just not for me. If the love isn't authentic then I don't want

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. Ok, now I know you are trolling.

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 women can't have authentic love with a broke man, look. at the divorce rate, and men suicidal rates when they can't take care of their family and lose everything. It's not game, women should want a man with money and a man should grind his way to the top before he starts a family. It's the new days not old in the 80s where a man could take care of a whole family off one fast food job lol 2023 high inflation and recession for the common folk

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 is the homie hahaha but. maybe she is trolling us gagaga

[Fuentes]

Hahahha***

[Apple1996]

Oh stop I'm not trolling

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes a man can have a good job and still find love but in this scenario it's not right. Just means the woman is using him for money

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 what job is a man going to do without any qualifications in this economy where he can start a family early besides the military, law enforcement, and a few other federal careers but the average man is not looking to do that or put their life on the line in this economy. So what good job is a man with no qualifications going to have? A Manager at Walmart? Hahaha

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes it's not about the job. It's about having a woman there to support his dreams

[Apple1996]

@KrakenAttackin for the update. It's hard for me to argue for or against any of these women cause you aren't really giving good info about if they are loving and caring women or not. The descriptions you gave are basically pointless as to what type of person they really are

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 what women will support a man's dreams when he's broke? And I'm not talking middle class broke, I'm talking bucket ass car, lives in his moms basement or has a place but barely can afford himself food and gas, icing check by check with a dead end 9 to 5 job? Ur bot going to stay with that man through thick and thin, you will leave and wake up and find another man who can provide, and tou will never and I mean never wanna be with a broke man again. Cause if that doesn't traumatized you, having kids with a broke man will. Trust me on that.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. This is not about "your mom picking out your wife", it's about which wound you most want your son to be with.

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes any decent women would support their man's dreams regardless of money

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 can u explain the high divorce rate then?

[Apple1996]

There is not enough info to choose that. These options just aren't anything describing the woman's heart or why they want to marry my son

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes people divorce for many reasons so hard to say

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 actually their stats out there that women are initiators of divorce not men, so clearly the women is not happy In that marriage and many women aren't with those stats also theirs a high amount if single parents and to many children with desperate households of co parenting, because no women is going to support a poor man's dreams it's easy to talk about it but when the money isn't coming things change lol

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes women are divorcing for the money. It's usually because they are tired of having to care of the man like a baby. Women are happier when single

[Apple1996]

aren't* lol

[Fuentes]

They may not be happy single but they want a man who has money because that man can take care if himself end of the day it all circles back to money lol

[KrakenAttackin]

@Fuentes It comes back to money AND status. A guy who is a Pipeliner can make $250k/year if he's good, but many women wouldn't date a "lowly" welder.

[Apple1996]

There is nothing wrong with a man that lays pipe. That's exactly what we want from a man lol

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. You have kind of disappointed me. What mom refers to her son as a "loser" unless he is in prison? You mentioned the age difference as being a problem, but I disagree. I think these two wound have a good shot at an excellent marriage.

[Apple1996]

If one of my son's start being a loser ima call him out on it. And nah that type of age gap is inappropriate and borderline predator. I'd call out my son's on that too. Realistically my husband would call them out on this way before this point so i wouldn't even need to

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. So an orthopedic surgeon earning an easy $450k/year is a "loser"? And also a loser because he wants a good woman who hasn't been run through, and doesn't want to argue and compete with him every second of every day?

Sorry apple, you are flat wrong on this.

[Apple1996]

A 29 year old man is far to old to be complaining about women being ran through. If he wanted a woman that was pure he could have picked that up years prior before he started getting old and moldy

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. 29 is "old and moldy"? Also, he couldn't likely attract a pure girl when he was in his early 20's as he had no status or money. Come on, stop trolling.

[Apple1996]

29 is old for a man. y'all die sooner. 36 is mid life for a man in the US. I wouldn't want to hop into a relationship with a man that's basically half dead. A good looking guy in his early 20s can easily get a woman job or not. This isn't a troll response. Like serious opinions here

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 u been on the base loving to long and been a mother so I think u been isolated Abit about what's going on in the outside world. A good looking guy will not maintain a modern day women lol she will leave him for a real provider the only thing a good looking guy can offer in his early 20s is D and that's it lol I ain't looking to date but I have no issue getting any women I want because I have money. But again I ain't looking to date anyone nor do I wanna be married and nor do I give a shif about making anymore kids and settling down. I wanna die rich and alone and my money passed off to my only child hahhaa and I'm sure many men feel. fhay way at 30 I have no issue getting woman at all. I choose to not settle down and I wven have the money I'm suppose too. I would have never gotten that in my early 20s ever hahahaha

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. Wow... just wow. By that logic she should get a 29 year old geyser, so she can still get a second husband after the geyser does 😏

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes the good young D is what we want. Everything else is meh

[Apple1996]

Fr tho I need 5 husband's. 1 is not enough

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. No you don't. Doctors wives hooked them when they were already doctors. Don't BS.

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 explain why young men in their 20s ate incels or just have issues getting women to stay with them? Lol I mean we deny society right now as we know it. Young men cNt compete with me right now real time.

[Fuentes]

Are**

[Fuentes]

We cany deny***

[KrakenAttackin]

@Fuentes Correct. Women want successful men. Men want pure, young, virtuous, feminine women. This basic fact drives women crazy, even though they know it's true.

[Fuentes]

@KrakenAttackin its nature we can't deny nature lol no women will stay with a broke man it's completely unheard of lol Andrew Carnegie didn't have kids until he was 54 with a 21 year old. That's just crazy git it took him time to build his business and become the 1% wealthy lol

[KrakenAttackin]

@Fuentes Exactly. The crazy thing is how women deny and get angry when faced with the truth, their truth! @Apple1996. Is calling a 29 year old orthopedic surgeon a "loser" and inappropriate for wanting to be with a 21 year old virgin. There is serious masters level self delusion going on.

[SouthernWhiteMan]

You have to realize not everyone is lucky enough to find their wife when they are young.

[Fuentes]

Lol I don't see anything wrong with a 29 year old adult dating. a 21 year adult lol

[KrakenAttackin]

@SouthernWhiteMan No, she doesn't get it. Why? Because things come so easily for women and they live a life on easy mode. She has no idea what men have to go through to attract a d retain a quality woman.

[Apple1996]

All women are different. I'm not attracted to older men and would never settle being with one just for money. Only want younger men that can give me a good time. Once they get old men are only good for financial use

[Apple1996]

@SouthernWhiteMan the ones that aren't lucky are just the leftovers that get thrown in the dating pool

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. You pretty much just confirmed every negative stereotype about women that most women on GAG angrily deny. **dropping 🎤**

[SouthernWhiteMan]

So I am just a fucking leftover? I have never even had a real girlfriend and I have so much love in my heart I want to give but never have the chance.

[Apple1996]

@SouthernWhiteMan you might be able to find a girlfriend but it will not be the same as when you were young. Men don't have the same value as women in the dating world. We are the pickers and choosers. Unfortunately men not so much

[Apple1996]

I don't see any stereotypes. Women are just into different things. If they want oldies then go for it but I could never. It's the reason why I married a younger man

[SouthernWhiteMan]

I haven't even hit 30 yet and I am an "oldie"? How is that?

[Apple1996]

@SouthernWhiteMan after a man turns 18 they start going down hill hormonal wise. By 30 they don't have the same energy as 18 for having sex and being physically fit. Obviously they still can do things but it's not the same they were as when they were young. Women are hormones are different. Peak in our late 30s

[SouthernWhiteMan]

I am horny all the fucking time. What are you talking about?

[Apple1996]

@SouthernWhiteMan most men are the most horny in their teens. That's just how it is with your hormones. I've chatted with a few men here that are older like 35-40s almost all of them told me they can't go multiple rounds anymore since they got older

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 I'm not tryna hear that my D work and I can go multiple rounds aahha don't even tell me. that idc about what most weird men u talk to on here a lot of the guys on here are weird, lonely and don't even talk to women. Ofc that can't go rounds and ofc they're not physically fit big losers hahaha don't ever compare a small majority of GAG men to the real world hahahahahhahaaahahha stop that now ungotta be trolling

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes of course there are exceptions to this but I think a lot of old guys really can't go a lot of rounds and they get tired after sex. Like that's fine for girls that aren't sexual but I'm hypersexual so I need men that can keep up

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 theirs abuncha of us who can keep up and I beleive there is a such thing as blue pills and abuncha other products and even pre work outs, like citrulline malete u take that you'll be stacked with Hella energy and you'll destroy a chick multiple times in one day, I always bring Hella condoms with me incase I end up going rounds only once did I run outta condoms and that chick scared said she was on BC and wasn't so I ran to the store got plan B convinced her I would still smash and dipped once she took it hahahaha

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes I don't want no blue pill energy. I need him to be actually horny and energetic for me 😂

[Fuentes]

Lol I'm just saying a old guy can take that I don't need that, u got enough body for a man to rounds with you and be Hella energetic for u and many men can, don't let these gag losers fool you who given up on life and settled down and got fat and don't get up, odc they lack restricted blood flow. As for. men like me who actually move around and do shot and take care of ourselves, our blood works and I think of sex like a work out so citrulline malate really helps u get that extra pump just like when u in the gym lifting lol

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple. Come on, women peak in fertility in their early 20's. Your arguments are wishful thinking.

I have to remind myself you are 27.

[Apple1996]

Fertility and hormones are different. Women are the most horny in their late 30s-early 40s because their body is pushing to get pregnant while they are still healthy. Most women in their early 20s don't have this drive. During that time in my life I literally became infertile. I'm sure you know that if you've followed me for awhile. Fertility is now much better since I'm getting older

[Apple1996]

@Fuentes true a lot of guys here are probably in bad shape and not healthy to be able to have good sex

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. So you just described how women ride the cock carousel in their 20's, then suddenly get the "baby rabies" so they find a simp to marry, have kids with, then get bored, divorce rape him.

You are trying to argue men should not have the preference for young women, but that is a lost cause. I could argue women shouldn't chase Chad Thundercock, but I know it's innate.

Just accept men want younger and pure women.

[Apple1996]

Oh I'm not arguing against that in anyway. Just saying that women also want younger partners as well if they ignore the money part then there is no reason to go older

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. Status is very important to women.

[Apple1996]

Those same women that care about status are settling for bad dick tho and that's why they divorce later on

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apple1996. You are assuming status and potential wealth equates "bad dick".

I am saying a high status man has the RIGHT to choose a younger and pure woman. Just the way a young , attractive, pure woman has the RIGHT to leverage her assets to get a high value man.

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 that's right lol they're in bad shape so im. tellinf u the man u want needs be in some sort of good shape and active in his life or you're risking a Bad D and low aex drive ofc they can't keep up hahaha

[Apple1996]

If they are old and not some rare exception then yes bad dick regardless of status.

And I don't see value in high status men or young women. They are both the most annoying type of people in our society. If they want to group together then go for it but later on once that woman wants more she's gonna divorce and move on to doing better things

[Fuentes]

@Apple1996 if u think about it goes both ways women divorce when a man is too broke and they will divorce to move on and do better things as u just said that's just modern day women not much men can do about that but if a man wants a really good looking women as a wife he will for damn sure work for it first before he settles with some regular average women. at least he had a baddie for a wife for awhile rather been emotionally abused and destroyed by an average women who ain't that good looking at all and took all the money he ever had lol

[KrakenAttackin]

@Fuentes. The most disturbing thing to me is that @Apple1996 doesn't seem to give a fuck about her Sons. We a knew that mothers lie to their sons about women, but simply not caring about them is especially brutal. No wonder boys feel left to figure shit out on their own.

[Fuentes]

@KrakenAttackin my mom didn't tell me anything I had to learn the hard way, but I'm glad I learned this way because it turned me into an animal, and made me obsessed with dead green guys only. So that if I ever did decide to settle down I'll have the chick I want and ahe ain't ever leaving me and imma die and pass all my money down to my children creating generational wealth fuck being broke and raising a broke family off poverty and a broken back.

[Apple1996]

That's ridiculous I care about my son's. I just don't think they should be money obsessed. Greed is my biggest ick and I refuse to raise kids like that

[KrakenAttackin]

@Apope16. Being a surgeon doesn't mean being money obsessed. Perhaps he genuinely likes helping people?

[Fuentes]

Every man should be money obsessed, but apple I would like to know about snowedin DM me about what happen.

[Apple1996]

I actually have a ick for doctors to. I had my friend put curses on a few over the greed thing and bad shit actually happened to them so never doubt the power of a witch. They are nuts 😳

[Fuentes]

The obvious Virgin cause the rest are untrustworthy at all and have abuncha issues that would lead to divorce and those women taking his money and becoming the biggest headache to his life.

[Anonymous]

I would definitely teach my son that son don't trust holes be a fuckboy n njoy life.
Make money. Spend money.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Or just settle down and enjoy having sex with the same woman constantly instead of dealing with a bunch of useless whores

[Opinion Owner]

I get bored from eating same food everyday...
Why to eat same boring good everyday when you have bunches of resturant options?

[WhiteBoyChill]

I’m afraid you just have a mental deficiency then. Some people just aren’t able to pair bond I suppose.

But seriously, there aren’t any girls at all you’ve ever liked?

[Opinion Owner]

I like many girls I m friend with them but I don't believe in relationship or love. I get bored easily.

[KrakenAttackin]

@bros26. That's certainly a good option as well. Become a high value man and just be that top 4% that runs through women like a freight train.

[Anonymous]

none, but would be okay with the 21 had she been older. its weird for a 21 and a 29 to date

[Curmudgeon]

Of course, the problem with that is that had the hypothetical 21 year old been older, the odds of finding such a unicorn would be even lower than they already are!

[KrakenAttackin]

8 years is not a huge difference especially as younger older. Also, high value men want younger, more pure women.

[KrakenAttackin]

@GentleGingerGirl He may not "say" it, but I know what men want from a potential wife. Men want youth, purity, beauty, faithfulness, femininity. Most of the other things can fall into line if she has these basic but powerful qualities.

It always cracks me up when women try to tell men what they should want in a woman.

[KrakenAttackin]

Anon... post wall women hate to see high value men going for young women 😂😂😂

[Likes2drive]

Third one seems more likely but they may not have much in common either

[Redstang88]

None of those appeal to me

[KrakenAttackin]

Fair enough, but if your Son is choosing from the above, which do you choose?

[Redstang88]

Well in the wildly hypothetical situation that I were to have kids, I’d recommend they date someone they like. Which if he were anything like me wouldn’t be any of these

[Redstang88]

Well kinda, but you went to some pretty crazy extremes. Most guys don’t want a total slut but we don’t want a bunch either. Depending how radical feminist and how friendly she is with the ex’s I’d be more inclined to pick 2 over 3

[KrakenAttackin]

@Redstang88. Good luck with that. The good news for you is that there are plenty of 1's, 2's, and 4's in the west.

[Curmudgeon]

@Redstang88 Actually, #2 is the worst I dare say. Bad prior choices can be acknowledged, but bad ideologies cannot.

[Redstang88]

You asked my opinion I answered 🤷‍♂️ Sorry but the quiet little church mouse has absolutely zero appeal to me

[KrakenAttackin]

@Redstang88. That's totally cool.

[Redstang88]

Re update - not exactly, they’re just calling out your extreme skewing of the options to back the point you’re obviously deadest on with zero interest in hearing differing opinions

[Andres77]

Looks like someone stacked the deck…😉

[KrakenAttackin]

@Andres77. Men see this but many women don't. My point was to demonstrate what men value in a woman. Men want purity, femininity, respectability, and integrity.

So many women are in complete denial about what men want and high value men can demand. Notice how few women have responded to this poll? That's because most women fit into one of the three categories other than the young virgin.

[Paris13]

In a Perfect World----The Virgin. xxoo

[artgorgeous]

Lol that was easy.

[Anonymous]

Show me the 21 year old violinist virgin and I'll believe unicorns exist

[Curmudgeon]

Which is why I suggested ranking the 4 choices. #3 is a unicorn.

[FYI345]

Well you made that choice very easy lol

[KrakenAttackin]

There is a reason for that.

[KostasKouvalis]

The violinist

[Drewtate]

There is only one option

[WhiteBoyChill]

Third. F^ck all the rest of them

[exitseven]

I pick C. The rest are pigs

[Jamie05rhs]

This poll is legendary.

[strateguy632]

,,4th

[Anonymous]

None of them