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It is sacred yes you're right and God Witnesses it
The thing about most marriages is when something happens depending on what it is people have had enough and they say goodbye walk away it's not supposed to be that way it's supposed to be try to work it out this is a moment in time and if you allow it if you work it it will pass too
now I do understand when you try to work it out things are not going to work and you say enough is enough so you get a divorce and then you have to pay in hell until either a court says stop doing what you're doing are you going to go to jail give him peace of mind LOL
Because for many years She badmouth Me which That didn't bother me It did bother me because she was doing it to my son and I've always told her You better stop it's going to come back and bite you in your ass She didn't believe me And that's exactly what happened
But it got way better before then because she called me up and said she meant the man of her life and I said congratulations and from that day forward all the crap stop that I had to go through
It should be cut and dry no bad mouth no putting down no nothing go your Separate Ways and if you have kids do not talk bad about your spouse your ex spouse because it will come back to bite you in the ass guaranteed
Thanks for sharing your experience, 🙂👍🏻
Yes I do
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You're welcome my friend
Everyone has the right to be in loving union with someone they desire to grow old with. In that sense, it's sacred.
It is sacred in this way too, but what i meant by sacred is being blessed by god!
I understood where you were coming from by the wording of the question. I'm an atheist, so the religious part doesn't bear any meaning to me. However, I do believe that the union itself is spiritual.
Well at least you believe that it's meaningful and has a strong value 🙂
Yes because you’re hoping they will be the person you spend the rest of your days with until old age.
Plus they will become a one person and a family too 🙂
Very true 👍
Than you for MHO :)
You're welcome 🙂
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I'm not religious and don't believe in the concept of sacred. However, I do think that marriage is a serious decision and the contract of it should be respected.
I think that cheating while being married should be illegal with a heavy fine if you've proven to being doing so, and even potentially jail. It'll make people think twice before tying the knot.
People nowadays tend to just see marriage as something you can easily get out of and I think that's why divorce rates are so high. They dont take it as seriously as it should be.
Well said, destroying lives is a crime and yet they don't take it seriously, many crimes and societies were terminated or collapsed because of it, more lethal than a crime and yet they joke about it and does nothing about it!
Agreed entirely
I have always believed, as millions of humans before me, that marriage is between a man and a woman.
I have nothing against same-sex relationships, and defining a legal construct for them. I just wish we never called that marriage. Laws and social norms about marriage have always been about man and woman, and the specific situations that creates. Trying to expand marriage to something else creates all kinds of issues.
Well said, also because it's recommended by god...
No. Gays and lesbians should have the same right to be as miserable in marriage as hetero couples. 😂😂😂
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That is a complex question. I am afraid the Answer is complex as well. Before I begin let me say I have been married for 54 years and it has been the most significant occurrence of my life. It brought my life into focus. Marriage, like a good movie, will bring out every emotion.
I can see where someone might think it is sacred, and If you and your wife treat it as such, it can feel that way. But, the word sacred implies God. God never told anyone to get married. Isiah says that it is the way of mankind. In the Garden of Eden it was not necessary. Remember God's request. y'all make me some babies. When we were evicted, mankind had to find a way to honor God's will and satisfy our possessive nature. My wife, My kids, My House, My 401k, My -----------------.
We are sold a bill of goods. Churches seem to vilify sex, vilify women to the point that our society uses devil to describe a man's inability to ignore females. when it was created by God. Women were not designed to be ignored. But, somehow we buy into the idea that the only way sex is acceptable in his sight is through marriage. When he clearly said take no vows take no oaths and swear no promises.
However, It is best treated as though it were sacred.
I respect your view, though i don't agree with it, but thanks for taking time to write this insight...
I had to die on the operating table to gain this insight. The Creation story marks the change from God's will to man's will. Marriage is the best way to navigate your life in Man's society. That is what Isiah was telling David. i agree
Jesus fucking Christ, Tony… You’ve spent this entire thread confusing your personal religious beliefs with universal facts. Marriage existed thousands of years before Christianity, and even your own Bible describes men having multiple wives (Genesis 29:28). But sure, keep pretending your definition is the only one humanity has ever recognized.
And why the fuck do you keep assuming everyone who disagrees with you is an atheist? I’m agnostic. Maybe your God exists, maybe multiple gods exist, maybe none do, or maybe the Flying Spaghetti Monster runs the damn universe. But I don’t claim certainty without evidence. You, however, keep presenting your faith as an indisputable fact.
Here’s something that’ll really blow your mind: I’m bisexual, my boyfriend is bisexual, and he’s a Mexican-American Catholic who actually believes in God. Shocking, I know! Apparently, religious LGBTQ people exist. Who would’ve fucking thought?
And this obsession with a “real marriage” being exclusively between a man and a woman under God? That’s YOUR religious definition, not a universal law. Civil marriage doesn’t require a priest, a Bible, or your personal approval. A same-sex marriage doesn’t become any less real because you refuse to acknowledge it.
And considering you’ve proudly declared yourself lgbtq phobic, perhaps stop lecturing everyone about the sanctity of love while openly celebrating prejudice?
Your faith gives you the freedom to live by your beliefs, not the authority to dictate everyone else’s relationships. But congratulations on confusing the two. Have a blessed fucking day! 🙂❤️
Watch out not to explode little boy 😂
Anyways, what you have said represents you and not, it's how YOU see me, doesn't have to be real or a fact, just because you see me like this, doesn't means that it's true, according to what you have lectured me 😉
You forgot one thing when you said that i'm an lgbtq phobic, i said that i'm PROUDLY an lgbtq phobic 🤣🤣
You too have a nice day 😌
Oh, Tony, the mother fucking irony. 😭 You tell me my perception of you isn’t necessarily a fact, yet you repeatedly declare YOUR religious beliefs universal facts without evidence. You insist there’s only one God, that marriage is only sacred with his blessing, and that everyone else’s beliefs are irrelevant. Now apply your own fucking logic to yourself. 🙂
And you literally admitted you’re PROUDLY LGBTQ phobic. That’s not my perception, sweetheart. That’s YOUR statement. You’re a grown-ass man celebrating prejudice while preaching God’s teachings about love and morality. Matthew 22:39 says to love your neighbor, and Matthew 7:5 addresses hypocrisy. Perhaps try reading those.
You cannot preach love, proudly celebrate prejudice, and then cry about being judged for your own words. That’s literal hypocrisy, not holiness. People like you will preach holiness until it comes to bite you in the ass when you don’t like a verse and miss it entirely.
Nope, don't worry, i listen to everyone, even if it's a person like you 😏
Never said that my beliefs and claims are universal and that everyone shall obey them and follow them, never!
Like i said before, i just represent myself, if you like what i represent than you're welcome and if not than it's your choice...
I guess i'm not the one who came to attack you, like wth are you in the first place, first time seeing you here 😂😂
Go back up and check who's attacking who, okay ma boy 👍🏻
Oh, Tony. 😭 “I never said my beliefs were universal facts”? Fascinating, considering you literally told someone there’s only one God for EVERYONE and that other beliefs won’t change that “FACT.” You also claimed real love and real families can ONLY exist between a man and a woman. Your words, not mine. 🙂
And now you’re playing the misunderstood victim because someone actually challenged you? You proudly announce you’re LGBTQ phobic, agree with people spreading hostility toward minorities, and then act like you’re simply minding your business.
You’re entitled to your beliefs. But you are, in fact, not entitled to have those beliefs treated as unquestionable facts.
And “ma boy”? Really? Being condescending doesn’t magically make your argument intelligent. It just means you’ve run out of anything literally useful to say.
But thanks for the lecture on respecting opinions. Perhaps try applying it to people who aren’t exactly like you. 🙂
What you said is true, these are my claims and will always be and everyone knows that these are my claims, you haven't found something new 😂
To ME these are universal facts, to others it's not, do you think that i'm a mediocre to believe that that everyone in the world have the same beliefs!
We all live according to our own beliefs and faith, you're free to believe in whatever you want, i ain't going to attack evem if i don't like your beliefs, your sexual orientations or anything else about you, i live and let live because Jesus gave people the freedom of choice, if the god that i believe in gave people this freedom than who am i to stand against it...
Go seek for the ones who will decapitate your head if you go against them or if you believe in anything that contradicts their beliefs 😉
Tony, what the actual fuck? We were discussing marriage, religious beliefs, and your own statements. How did you suddenly arrive at people being decapitated for disagreeing? 😐
You claim to respect everyone’s freedom of belief, yet you proudly identify as LGBTQ phobic and dismiss same-sex relationships as incapable of real love. That’s what I literally challenged.
And “universal facts to ME” is a contradiction. You’re describing personal beliefs, not demonstrated universal facts.
But literally bringing violent imagery into this discussion is completely unnecessary, and that's a disturbing escalation. I came here to challenge your arguments, not to entertain comparisons involving someone’s head being cut off. We’re fucking done here. I’m not gonna sit here and tolerate this ridiculous bullshit you just pulled out of thin air. You’re a grown-ass 40-year-old man, and somehow you’ve managed to turn a disagreement about marriage and religion into a conversation about people getting their fucking heads cut off. Are you actually serious right now? What the actual FUCK is wrong with this conversation?
I’m genuinely reconsidering why I even bothered giving you the benefit of the doubt that we could have a remotely reasonable discussion. Because what the actual hell was that supposed to accomplish? Intimidate me? Prove a point? Make yourself look morally superior? Because congratulations, you’ve accomplished absolutely none of those things.
I came here to challenge your arguments, not listen to some bizarre, completely unnecessary bullshit about decapitation. You can keep your religious convictions, your condescending remarks, and whatever the fuck that last paragraph was supposed to be.
I’m not entertaining this shit anymore. We’re done.
See, you're a kid and not mature enough to have a discussion with me, come back when you're mature enough!
About the decapitation thing, it's not a threath nor am i scaring you, in contrary i'm warning you and telling you whom you should watch out from...
I'm a civilized man, no matter what the income of our discussion will be, i'll accept it snd respect it as long as you're respectful, turn and leave, i have mentioned this in my last paragraph because i was talking about how popped in out of the blue and spilled your anger on me while i'm someone who faces many people like you on a daily basis, so i got used it, i was just trying to tell you that not everyone are like me, you're attacking the wrong person, because others will treat you the way i have told you about and you know who i'm refering to?
It's not me whom you should attack or be affraid of, it's these other extremist people whom you should be affraid of when you attack them thinking that they will treat you like me...
I hope that i made it clear for you now...
You people in the west, the majority of europeans and americans needs to study a lot about other cultures and other countries because thinking that you're living all alone in this world is the main reason why you're going to be in so much trouble in the future!
You have allowed everyone to see you and to learn about you while you were blind all the time and not learning anything about the others...
Like i said, with me you'll find safety but beware of the others!
Yes, I believe marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman, built on love, loyalty, trust, and lifelong commitment. To me, marriage is more than just a legal contract; it's a serious promise to stand by each other through life's challenges and joys.
If there was some mhos left, i would of given you one, thanks for sharing this wonderful answer 🙂
That's what marriage is. It is the definition of marriage. Marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman. But that is only the principle. In practice I believe that it is a foolish thing to do. People are just not the stuff you should rely on. They can be treacherous as snakes so to speak. They can come up with all sorts of problems. Not saying that people should not move in to live together just don't go into the trouble of making it official and so you will avoid the trouble (and cost) of correcting your mistake.
Live together yes marriage no.
Yes, I do believe that marriage is a deeply sacred union and a blessing from God. It’s meant to be built on love, respect, and faith. Do you feel the same way?
I surely do, only if it's a real marriage, which means that the couple truly understand what a marriage is...
Spot on! Understanding what that bond really means is everything. It takes genuine dedication from both people to make it last.
Yes. I don't acknowledge atheist partnerships as marriage. If it isn't anointed by god it isn't sacred and therefore it isn't marriage.
Other than PR reasons I still don't understand why the church didn't step in on the gay marriage debate on trademark/copyright grounds. The lable "married" is the exclusive right of the church to distribute at it's discretion and the state making any decision on who is/isn't married is an infringement on that.
Well said 👍🏻
Marriage is just a means for women to extract resources from men. Marriage helps women and courts steal from and abuse men. It has no value to men and is NOT needed for a serious, exclusive, long term happy relationship.
I agree with you about how it's used today but this ain't a real marriage!
I agree that it should be and IS under the right circumstances. Though, sadly they as common as most think
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I voted ( YES it was ) in the Australian vote , pledicide , but my side lost..
So it's open to all.
Thanks for sharing
Marriage is very holy and important because you create a new family and you choose a Man or woman in your life
Families get married when you get married.
Married indicate your life-style.
Thanks, your answer deserves an mho 🙂👍🏻
It's a sacred contract between two families.
But individuals can grow apart and can want different things.
Right but if it's a real marriage where the couple believes in god's teachings, they know that their marriage MUST last forever...
Nope. Marry who you want long as both agree to it and nobody's a minor.
I agree that you can marry whoever you want ofc if they both agree and for sure not a minor but not believing that a marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman is the part where me and you are different...
Maybe because you don't believe in god 🤷🏻♂️
WoW, as you wish...
Well, I'm not religious, but yes, I do believe that.
Thanks for sharing bro and it's good to know that you believe in it 🙂
You're welcome my friend :)
I believe it's a very bad business arrangement in which the man essentially commits financial suicide.
These days yes, but that's not a real marriage!
Sadly the majority are but there still some who are truly married...
The courts are to blame too, it's like it's enough that the person is suffering from a divorce and the door of life had shut it's door on him/her, the courts comes in and treats you so badly that if you're suffocating, oh we will suffocate you more, we will give you more pain, heck even a serial killer wouldn't be f*cked like this! 😒
I know 👍🏻
not sacred. but I think most people don't realize what they are really getting themselves into when they get married. If you want to divorce your wife once she gets fat after popping out 4 kids, DON'T GET MARRIED. If you want to divorce your wife because her sex drive has lowered, DON'T GET MARRIED.
Love really isn't enough to sustain a successful marriage. It requires both people to have similar lifestyle habits / spending habits
Why isn't it sacred to you? Are you an Atheist?
because you don't need to be religious to get married
Ah ok, that's why you don't think that it's sacred...
Why? Because marriage IS a sacred union between a man and a woman (XX + XY).
True!
No, because I'm not religious and I wouldn't marry a believer. A marriage means exactly what the partners want it to mean. If we remove God, marriage is legal contract with advantages and disadvantages.
Yes a legal contract, that's the part where i wipe my a$$ with such contract, because to me the sacred part where i receive the blessing of god on my marriage is the only important part to me!
It doesn't prevent it if the couples doesn't know how to live it according to god's teachings...
No. Sacred means "to make or declare something holy". You don't need religion or the belief in a deity to get married. Marriage is a legal contract, one that ends up being dissolved about 50% of the time within the first 8 years.
The legal contract is manmade while a sacred marriage is receiving the blessing of god and living your marriage life according to god's teachings!
That only applies to people who believe your particular book, Tony. There's nothing "sacred" about a Christian marriage ordained by a God that another religion doesn't worship. It's only sacred to YOU, because you're a believer.
Right, it's only sacred to me because i'm a believer and PROUD of it 👍🏻
* Chest pound * Good for you, Tony. You have every right to believe it, just like others don't.
Ofc, because i believe that people are free...
It’s a sacred union, but not just between a man and a woman. Bear in mind, Andy Stanley baptized a transgender parishioner and he’s as hardcore Christian as they come.
To me, real love, real marriage, real sex and a real family can only be achieved by one man and one woman together...
I disagree but ok
No problem, it's ok...
"Bear in mind, Andy Stanley baptized a transgender parishioner and he’s as hardcore Christian as they come."
That depends on what Christian sect you are referring to. Transgenderism is considered a sin in some Christian sects as your biological sex is considered a fixed God-given design and baptism cannot be performed until the person baptized confesses their sin as a sign of commitment to Biblical teachings.
@RingOfFire right 👍🏻
It's not only about a religion even atheists knows that there's only a man and a female, nature dictates it and scientist knows it...
Some people just don't wanna accept that this is the reality, for example we all know that the earth is oval, all colors and all religions, everywhere worldwide, except for a group of people who insists that the earth is flat 🤦🏻♂️
@TonyMetal___1986
I think most educated people are capable of understanding that there are only two biological genders, male and female and you cannot change from one to the other. But some weak-minded people both well-educated and not well educated are intimidated into parroting the propaganda of the Democrat left that is obviously fantasy not fact. They are bullied into it by intimidation and brainwashing in the media and educational system. Out of their fear of being bullied, they go along with the fantasy and eventually start actually believing it. They are told that stating the obvious truth is somehow "transphobic" and mean to people who falsely think they are some other gender. And they think we are supposed to go along with the fantasy or we are somehow "transphobes" for believing in reality because that has been drummed into their weak minded brains. So they themselves develop a mental disorder unable to separate fact from fantasy. They are confused people. Not necessarily bad people, just weak minded and confused.
It's a well known psychological disorder similar to the Stockholm Syndrome. They are held captive and afraid to rebel because they feel owned by their leftist captors.
The saying "repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" is commonly attributed to Joseph Goebbels, the Minister of Propaganda for Nazi Germany. It's all the same syndrome and always a tool of those who wish to poison a society and install their dictatorship. It's is the first level of their mind control.
@RingOfFire correct 👍🏻
They are fooled into thinking they are doing something "just" and "moral," when in fact they are doing just the opposite. They are doing the bidding of the very people who want to destroy them and the rest of the civil society and their minds have been so far penetrated by anti-civilized propaganda that they have no idea what they are doing.
The first people that Hitler put in the ovens were some of the Jews and others who were brainwashed into helping the Nazis do their bidding thinking they were doing something just and moral because that's what they were being told, when in fact they were signing their own death sentences. As soon as Hitler was finished with them selling his "do gooder" propaganda he laughed while they were hauled away to their deaths.
Americans who are selling this fantasy garbage to destabilize the society are similarly leading to their own demise at the hands of those who pull the strings that are manipulating them. Their goal is to take the rest of the country down with them.
@RingOfFire the worst part is that this sh*t is being spread worldwide like cancer!
Absolutely so. Much of Europe has already fallen and is being invaded by illegals from failed countries who want to overturn the society and install their own failed system in those countries. Europe is a perfect example of what NOT to do that leads to the destruction of your culture and borders. But it is kept silent so that the rest of the world doesn't even know that Europe is collapsing. You can barely find any trace of their European culture in major cities like London. A good portion of the countries have had their justice systems replaced with unauthorized Sharia law courts. It is happening in America now and if we don't wake up we will go down the same socialist/communist/Islamist rathole Europe did.
@RingOfFire 👍🏻👍🏻
This is coming here if the Democrats seize control again. Trump is the only thing that stopped it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdN7zfCy2g0
@RingOfFire it happened and will keep happening in other European countries too!
The vast majority of these invaders are Muslims. Note to that the vast majority of them are military age men. This is happening all over again. Islamic Jihad is still one of the worst threats on the planet to this day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9Wd6_kQ4Wc
@RingOfFire and yet they keep welcoming them 🤦🏻♂️
It’s a sacred union between two people who consider it a sacred union.
It's only sacred if it's blessed by god
What do you mean by who's god? As if there's multiple gods, he's only on god for everyone, people's different beliefs aren't going to change this fact!
It's a legal distinction, that's about it. Most married women cheat, so not really much argument for the sanctity of it.
These women aren't having a real marriage then!
What is a real marriage? Spoken vows? Priest blessed it? Did any of that stop anyone from cheating? the entire world of cheating resolves into two simple things-
Promises and broken promises. Cheating is lying. Everybody lies.
You started right but end it wrong because real devout faithful couple do not commit any of these things that you have mentioned, they follow their vows towards god and live theirs lives according to the bible's teachings...
I believe marriage is between two people and its derails are none of your business.
Or mine for that matter.
Who said that it's my business, i'm just asking 🤷🏻♂️
Yes but in reality it’s not. It’s only in fairytales. I pay $10 to watch for 90 minutes.
Don't you believe that it can happen?
It’s better living in a reality
I'm real 😄
More like you are dreaming
Actually i'm not dreaming, i'm like that but yes i agree with you that i might be dreaming to find someone like me...
Naughty people created fairytale cartoons.
World is naughty
Actually in the past it wasn't a fairytale, it was the norm and i'm sure that you are aware of this fact, but in our current time, it might be a fairytale!
It was exactly the same
How come? Some women were beaten to death and stayed married, now if a spouse is bored they divorce 🤣
Love was magical backthen, the majority of marriages stood the test of time and remained forever...
There was prostitution back then and people still fooled around often carry a guy next doors baby. It was common
Right, these cases were found since the dawn of humanity but here we are speaking numbers, the rates have skyrocketed in this last decade...
It just look like it it has been the same
But it isn't, plus it depends on where you're living...
Stop dreaming. You are not living just sleeping
Are you ok? 🤔
nah, just a construct, no more meaningful than dating.
I'm not so foolish to think that what I believe has any influence on reality. Marriage is a voluntary union between two humans.
Yes that's the start that a marriage is a voluntary union between two humans...
Not really. A little too old fashioned and religious for the modern age. Marriage is for two people who love each other and want to share the rest of their lives together. This is not limited to just one man and one woman.
Maybe, but to me it's limited only to one man and a one woman...
All I can say is, if it’s meant to be, so be it
Very much so
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Plus, God. 💕💝
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u love is...
marriage is symbolism
Real love is, 👍🏻
genuine love, above all
papers or not
because i believe Faith based Marriage is a Sacred Union
If you believe otherwise, you're just 'playing house'.
@TonyMetal___1986 it is sacred.
Welcome back 😊
@TonyMetal___1986 thank you Tony
You're welcome
Absolutely.
Thanks for sharing miss rachy rach hehe
Definitely!
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Yes I do believe it is
I do.
It is a sacred union between consenting adults.
And by sacred I mean worthy of deep respect.
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Yes I do.
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In general. yes
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Yes.
Effectively just a legal contract
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