Do women have higher standards for looks when it comes to men?

[Anonymous]

Yes they do

No they dont (see things from a girl's perspective)

[scholastic_vibez]

I've been thinking about this issue a lot. But, you know what's worse than a girl who is materialistic? A girl who is materialistic, but doesn't think she is. At least with a materialistic girl, there's transparency, and you know if her standards are too damn high and unrealistic. I can forgive that to a point because of the transparency.

Now let me tell you about a girl I let get away named Jazz. Jazz would date corporate exec types, expect them to take her on expensive vacations, lived at home w/ mom & dad, complained about how boring these corporate dudes were. She wished she had an educated guy who she could go with to art museums, and to talk about intellectual stuff with. But, at the end of the day, she kept on dating these guys that bored her for the money, and vacations. Yet here she is, a hypocrite, can't even afford her own apartment. But, then again, she could have been too intimidated to date anyone on her level intellectually. I see it all the time: girl gets a degree, intentionally dates a dude who can't keep up with her intellectually; it makes her feel superior. I see that more with American educated women than European girls.

[Shy_Steve]

Women have higher standards all around, They don't want to admit it.
Saying that you Girls do have the right to be picky but it is just a losing battle for us Shy who want to do all the things you want your Guy to do and to be.
Hypothetically If I were to pick a random Girl and a random Guy out of the public, It would be more likely the Girl would have more Confidence and the person with the least amount of Confidence deserves to be asked out whether they are Male or Female but most Women think they deserve to be asked out even if they are more Confident than the Guy they like all because of tradition or they want a Guy with a certain amount of Confidence.
It is unfair not just for us Shy Guys but for you Women who want to find the right Guy so you Girls just keep shooting yourself in the foot and us Guys see this while we keep getting ignored all because we are not Confident enough.
Would you rather get rejected because a Guy did not find you attractive or because of your personality or shyness, I would rather get rejected because She doesn't find me attractive not because I'm too Shy or not Confident enough for her but that's just my opinion.

[Seinna]

I think it's only American men who think this way...

Look, women need to be more critical when chosing a partner. After all, we have a limited child bearing capacity and need to make sure we chose right and that our offspring gets the best genes. We'll HAVE to care for it for the next 20 years or so.

Men don't have that burden, they can just leave and they unfortunately often do that. They care a lot more about having many sexual partners and don't need to be that critical.

But unless a guy is extremely ugly, looks is not a deciding factor most of the time. It is a proof of his weak character if a guy assumes he was rejected because of the way he looks. Admitting that is in itself an indication of why he was rejected. Women see that, you're not fooling anyone. And women don't like weak.

[Chriscunning]

Hanging around with woman, most of the time when a guy is 'good looking' enough to catch everyone's interest, he really is pretty damn good looking (like a 9 or 10). If you not an 8,9, or 10 you deemed "not good looking".

There is definitely a lot of other factors that go into dating like you mentioned, but I do think woman tend to be harder on guys and there looks.

You also mentioned "unless a guy is extremely ugly"... but that's also in the eye of the beholder.

[AnggieGirl]

@Seinna You nailed this one ☝️

[devilman666]

So basically, you're saying women want to be stay at home wives? Lmao

[Matt002]

The same women who say shit like this are the same women who have 0 plans to have children.

[LoveIsFake]

Here's the thing though, just because a girl has a kid with someone who so called has good genes doesn't exactly mean their kid is going to be successful and thrive. Having good genes doesn't garantee any better outcomes.

[Alyssa11]

Women fall in love with what they hear, and men fall in love with what they see.


Women can catch feelings just by texting/calling a man constantly. Men can catch feelings just by glancing at a woman they find incredibly attractive.


And that’s the end of that :).

[Alyssa11]

Also explains why MOST* men enjoy porn and women enjoy reading erotica

[Asker]

That's? crap. I don't believe that

[tatianamay]

@asker Not crap. It’s fax

[wheelgator421]

@tatianamay FAX all caps lol

[tatianamay]

@wheelgator421 lmaooo

[KiranMG]

Women always want to prove that female body is superior. They want man to get attracted to female body. But women don't care about male body. Just fed up of this. Physical attraction is one sided.

[Alyssa11]

Bro there’s no superior inferior. That’s all in your head. This is biological facts. If women believed their bodies were superior then we’d all be attracted to other women. I find male bodies the most attractive thing in the world.

[Tstrbrainer]

@Alyssaa11 but don't you hate receiving dick pics?

[KiranMG]

Women like male bodies for its performance. The way it can protects you. The way muscular hands can be used to touch female body. Women don't have desire to act on male body. They fantasize how their boyfriend/husband act on their (female ) body

[Tstrbrainer]

That's a new perspective

[Alyssa11]

I only like receiving solicited dick pics lol. If it's my man, I want to see his dick all the time and I want to be caressing it all the time no matter where we are.

Whether we want to please a man or not is totally subjective. I'm submissive but I've also got a dominant side to me. So I'll be touching my man all the time.

[Tstrbrainer]

Okay.

[YourFutureEx]

Supply and demand, my friend.

If a girl wants to have sex at any point in her young age, she can have it and she'll have plenty of options to choose from. So, her standards will take a bounce.

If you have infinite money, would you still buy a Toyota or would you rather drive a Ferrari?

But men should not let this fact upset them because if looks is the number 1 priority for men, it is probably the number 4 priority for women when it comes to choosing a partner.

But... On dating sites, looks matter more because what else can make them swipe right? You cannot take a picture of your personality and bios are self proclaimed.

[Asker]

If you're ugly, you're fucked

[Chriscunning]

@Asker Yip if you ugly, you really are fucked. Of course there are exceptions, but far and few between. Unless you got money, that is the only other weighted factor in dating.

[Asker]

@Chriscunning Unless you wait until you're a high value man. Then you can have your pick of the litter

[NatalieKeller95]

what makes someone ugly exactly?

[Asker]

@NatalieKeller95 you tell me. You're a woman. You should know what makes a guy ugly

[YourFutureEx]

You're fucked only if you want to bang 13-19 yos
https://youtu.be/Bv0Z2MmoH1A

[Qdbrown]

First off, women only have standards and rules for a subset of men. It's that watch what they do, not what they say.

If they are highly attracted to a man, they will do anything for him, be as naughty and give as much money to keep his interest. They will never admit that, but women are notorious for that behavior.

As for the rest, they really have to woo her. They have to have look, personality, some mild wealth that includes a job, some possessions like a car and some hobbies to be in the club. At this point she is husband shopping. But she really likes the bad boy she can't have, and often it's the bad boy who put one in the oven that has her searching for a provider, of has burnt her so we'll, she wants a loyal provider type guy who won't cheat on her.

[zeitgeist057]

The okcupid thing may be accurate, but that's not how it works in real life/offline. In real life, men keep the same standard bell curve you show for the ok cupid poll, but women go for those men they rated as unattractive quite readily. I see women all the time with guys who would never get a response if they had their profile up online.

Women go more for personality than looks, though there are plenty who stick to looks as well, it's not the norm. And after several years of going just for looks, if a woman is still single, she starts to shop the lower leagues and is often looking for that unfortunate looking fellow who has a heart of gold and will treat her like a keeper, now that she's had her fun.

[JSmuve]

Hard to say. There's several things going on here that need to be considered.

First, women's pictures are likely photoshopped or edited and taken in such a way to most flatter the woman while guys' pictures are more take-it-as-I-am. If women put the same level of effort as guys into their pictures, their ratings would likely come down.

Second, guys are rating against an average while women are rating against an ideal. They have a picture of a guy they want in their head and everyone is compared against him. Not surprising that the majority don't measure up. Third, because guys generally have fewer options, they can't be as picky about their ratings. If you haven't eaten in two weeks, even the rejected fast food in the dumpster looks amazing.

[Floppy2112]

Pretty much, they have higher standards all across the board. This is because guy's have been trying to bang them since they were 12. And sure they ignore most guys, because they can. Because a lot of 'top' guys will rotate all through the same women and these women believe that since higher level guys will bang them, they can pick from that crowd.
This is as much men's fault as women's. If dudes would use a little dick control and not fuck at every opportunity, it wouldn't skew the women's view so much. But the guy's who have it, aren't about to pass up opportunity for the good of other men. So, it's fucked up, it's going to be fucked up for a while.
Everything is so heavily skewed uni-directional and it's not natural. Well, nature abhors a vacuum and you can only go against nature for so long, nature always wins in the end. Hang in there, nature will win.

[Hypnos0929]

Definitely.
I think the biggest difference is men will date an "ugly" woman if she fits his personality type or has been around him for a significant amount of time. A lot of women will back burner dudes who they don't want, but that give them attention, so they'll go out of their way to keep him alone or hopeful. Obviously not every woman does this but it's a common enough event that it should be mentioned.
I rarely see dudes who are just friends with a wifey material average unless they're both in relationships.

[InferiorElegy]

Of course females care more about looks than guys do and I've even tested this out.

None of my dating profiles over years never once got messages, replies, likes or views even though I put lots of effort into my profiles.

I then wondered what would happen if I made fake accounts, so I went on Facebook looked through a bunch of guys profiles to find a very attractive one who's pictures I would put into my fake profile and as soon as I did, that profile was being liked, viewed and messaged (about 30 messages within the first hour) all without having much put into my profile.

I even had made a female profile and before I could even put up any pictures, and I basically copy and pasted the profile, I was getting likes, views and a ton of messages (about 100+ an hour), none of which I looked at in case it was dick pics but still I think it proved my point at the time.

[coachTanthony]

--------The ok cupid study is flawed because they are rating photos not people. Women have higher standards for men who have a purpose and passion in their life. This is why rock stars get all the women.

~Coach T Anthony @thedatecoach IG

[devilman666]

This is generalizations towards both sexes.

[Lionman95]

I think it depends on every person. Some guys like me we give women compliments even if we are actually attracted to them. I do it because I know from real life experience that compliments can make woman feel better.
I think because women have more of a choice of who guy they go out with and they often times get attention from every guy around them they probably have to be pickier than guys that doesn´t need to mean they have a higher on looks.

[Lionman95]

I meant I give women compliments even if I´m not physically attracted to them.

[NatalieKeller95]

then go for the girl that rarely gets attention from anyone, the outcast, chances are if you give her attention, she'll start to feel good about herself and her purpose, and might fall for you as well, those future supermodel types, half of the time want to go out with a certain category of guys, so why try to run up a slope if you're going to fall right back down, go for the ones who are overlooked, overlooked doesn't mean unattractive, sometimes there is beauty hidden in this world,

[Lionman95]

@NatalieKeller95 Thank you for that comment. I actually didn´t complain about my situation and I mostly going for the average girls. But even then I give girls compliments when I´m not attracted to them. I don´t give compliments because I want something because I´m generally a rather helpful guy that can´t feel good when he sees other feeling bad if you understand what I mean.

[Anonymous]

That's assumed to be like that by the blues because women actually take care of themselves and how they look while men almost couldn't care any less about their own appearance. Ask any clothing store why they dedicate no more than 20% of their space for unisex or men's clothing section and there you have it. Some men even call it gay to experiment with your own appearance and go shopping for proper clothes or visit the beauty parlor.

If you want to look better than average, you might have no choice but to try out some of what the market calls "women's" products, services, clothings and accessories and treat it as unisex.
I can already smell the "ew that's gay" coming from the blues.

[Anonymous]

Yes it's true women have tremendously high standards much so more then men.
Men generally only expect she be attractive.
Women expect him to be attractive, To have a lot of money, To have good hair, to have nice teeth to have strong social circle, to be a networked, to be a man of many interests. To be intelligent. She has to look up to you to be interested. And woe be to the man that ever loses her interest. She'll drop you flat just like that for the next flavor of the month that comes along.

[Cathy7734]

I guess women have higher standards because we have so much more opportunities than men.

[Asker]

Privledge*

[Cathy7734]

I never could understand what "privilege" means and why it's an issue. My friend is super smart and get's A's in all of his classes. Teachers love him and he easily got a lab assistant job. So he's privileged. My dad is a hard worker and his boss loves him. He got a promotion over others. So he's privileged. It seems like if anyone "shines" above the rest that person is "privileged" and that's bad.

[Solidsnake007]

I think he means by privelage that you don't have to work for your endless options. If you're a hot girl you have tons of man who pursue you. I really don't blame you for choosing the best that suits your needs.

[Cathy7734]

@Solidsnake007
So some examples of "privilege" is"
So if a person is super smart and doesn't have to work that much to get an "A" he/she is privileged.
If God gave a man or woman good looks that person is privileged.
Anyone born into a family that is generous to that child - that child is privileged.
Anyone who has talent and doesn't have to work that hard to succeed is privileged.

[devilman666]

Let's stop pretending to not understand the word privilege ffs. We've all seen the criticism aimed at male privilege, so stop lying and pretending to be naive. There's a whole freaking wiki page on it.

"Male privilege is the system of advantages or rights that are available to men solely on the basis of their sex. "
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_privilege

What the asker means by privilege is female privilege, the system of advantages or rights that are available to women solely on the basis of their sex.

[Asker]

@devilman666 Exactly. Thanks

[zeitgeist057]

Privilege isn't a bad thing, but people toss it around like it is. It's not. It's just saying you have an advantage. Or someone else does. Men have privilege, women have it as well. Most people have some kind of advantage or privilege.

I used to not understand it as well until a queer friend of mine explained to me it's not a word to put guilt or make you feel ashamed for having an advantage. It's just there to recognize and acknowledge the advantage is there. Maybe your dad is a hard worker, but maybe also he is male, and therefore more respected than a female who is also working hard. That's just our society.

[zeitgeist057]

not to dis your dad at all, that's totally hypothetical to illustrate the idea.

[devilman666]

My dad actually is not male, thank you very much!

[zeitgeist057]

@devilman666 that's fine, I was referring to Cathy's dad though, the one she mentioned being. a hard worker.

[primrose97]

It has something to do with psychology. Men are often more attracted to lingerie.
Women are usually more attracted to a well groomed man in a proper suit. For me personally, i get more turned on and attracted to a suited man, or a uniform, than by man in his Calvins. Not sure if this makes sense but it is what it is. If you wanna get a girl, try to create a fantasy in her head. If you wanna get a man, buy high heels and lacy lingerie.

[KiranMG]

This is the reason women are not turned on by naked male body. Its better if men have sex wearung suit with naked women. Anyways what is the use of naked male body. You women are not aroused by it. What do you want to prove? That man's status is sexy than his body. But female body is sexy. One day I am sure men will stop having sex. Many men has false belief that their bodies are sexy to women.

[primrose97]

I think men are definitely attractive and sexy, but if you add another component, like a suit, it adds up to the experience. My boyfriend doesn’t have to wear a suit to have sex with me haha in fact I’ve never seen him wear one

[KiranMG]

But naked male body cannot turn on a woman. It is a fact. Even women think that naked female body is hot.

[na2398]

Wait, I ain't turned on by lingeries ahaha. Compassion, love, respect, care and support turn me on. :) Not superficial beauty.

[MCheetah]

I own this chart. Yes, they sure as hell do. Hypergamy. Women have endless choices and most men throw themselves at women.

[USMC-Crossroads]

Only in their 20's. Once they hit 35, and the baby urge hits like a freight train, they stop caring about looks, and focus on whether or not the man will be a good provider.

[Levin]

Men have low standards.

Women care more about socio-economic status.

I have high standards for women.

[KrakenAttackin]

There is an even bigger study that was done with OK Cupid, Tinder, Bumble (I think) a huge sample, and the results were similar.

Just because a Chad Thundercock lays pipe to you a few times, ladies, that does. It make you a "10".

[Rebecka33]

Yes looks isn't everything let's face it though reality is yes a far majority go by looks. I think the difference is women go by men's natural look more and men go by women's looks even if it's fake.

[devilman666]

Kinda hard to tell tbh, but eventually, we men will have more methods of faking our looks too. Botox is already pretty common for men to get, as is hair transplant and breast reduction, plenty of men are even learning how to use makeup to give themselves a better tan and a more consistent complexion. Such things are only becoming more and more common as men fight to earn the attention of modern women, give it a few more decades and I think men will be wearing makeup pretty much just like women do today.

[Shy_Steve]

Trust me most Guys don't like fake.

[Anonymous]

No they don’t. Women are basically encouraged by family and others to go for the guy that treats you well, give him a chance, he’s a good guy. Even if they don’t find him attractive. This works because women fall for a mans words and men fall for what they see. Men on the other hand go for women that are visually appealing and will listen to their friends if they don’t find their girl attractive. It’s honestly fucked up lol.

[Asker]

This seems false from my experiences

[hellacray]

It's looks or money. Sometimes both...

That or some other kind of benefit she can get her hands on. Like if you run a bar and can get her and her friends free drinks or something.

[EssenceOfLight]

Yes, they do. Even as top guy you're sometimes not good enough. In this case just turn and go away, find another one who offers at least that she is expecting.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well its a statistical fact, their isn't a question here.

[LoveIsFake]

When you're a guy just know this. You're never good enough because women always want more. Plus they can never be satisfied

[AlongCameCindy]

Yes and no, i would say they have more a check list of what they want but i would also say its probably also knowing more of what you want.

[CanadianGirlx23]

I like a man who has a dad body and has a curly brown hair and a beard

[FunkyMonkee]

No, as long as he beats them up from time to time, they're happy.

[Peaches002]

Absolutely no
How many couples where the woman is uglier and/or older than the guy, do you see? On the contrary the opposite phenomenon (couples where the girl is prettier and much younger than the guy) is very common..
Studies have shown that men are mostly attracted to a girl's looks, whereas women are attracted by) to other factors such as money charisma, social status, humor, education, intelligence etc.

[Asker]

If that's true then why does the graph show that women are pickier?

[Peaches002]

I'm talking about real life, not a hookup app

[Asker]

Yeah and many guys will tell you in real life that women care a lot about the way you look just as much as men do

[msc545]

Women have standards for men that are so high they wind up with nobody.

[NightHawk99]

A lot of girls want a guy that's over 6 foot with rock hard abs. They don't... And refuse to understand those guys are rare. VERY rare.

[Rok4bakAR]

Is the soft soyboys we will live.
And dishonest men are destroying the world.

[Unbeatable]

Yes. I've heard wives call their husbands ugly to their face, in front of everyone

[Anonymous]

To an extent but not completely based on that alone, they are looking for more important qualities in a guy also

[Tstrbrainer]

Not sure, saw ugly guys fucking the shit out of stunning women

[Anonymous]

If by looks you mean bank statement digits, then yes...

[IveGotNoName]

Yes probably. But is that a bad thing? Not everyone can be the best looking... 6% seems a bit high for most attractive women tbh...

[IveGotNoName]

Plus it's a dating app... you are literally supposed to rate people... maybe the quality of women on there is better than the quality of men

[Asker]

I just dont want women to say that bullshit that "Men are more shallow" or "Women are less visual" or "Women are more forgiving about looks" bullshit

[IveGotNoName]

Well aren't they? If they're that picky which isn't by choice)

[IveGotNoName]

(Which isn't by choice)*

[IveGotNoName]

Wouldn't guys technically be more shallow to only want the ones they think are most attractive?

[IveGotNoName]

I don't necessarily agree... but logically that makes sense

[Asker]

You don't agree with what? And if anything guys are the ones that will date any kind of girl and even have sex with any girl. I guess that makes us easy but then i again, i dont know if that's a good thing or bad thing

[IveGotNoName]

Right. I meant I don't really agree that women are less shallow than men, sorry, that was unclear, I see that now. But I generally think it's more of a personal thing more than it is a gender thing to be shallow. It just happens to be more female INDIVIDUALS who have this trait, which is unfortunate, because that causes a lot of generalizing.

[Asker]

And it's understandable why nen generalize

[Asker]

Men*

[IveGotNoName]

While understandable, it's very annoying to listen to

[Asker]

Freedom of ma'am

[Asker]

Speech*

[IveGotNoName]

Yeayea... but there's also something called thinking before speaking, you know?

[Asker]

I didn't say amything that made me look stupid though

[IveGotNoName]

Did I say you did?

[devilman666]

You're right, men should think that no woman is the most attractive, it should be literally 0%. I see women everyday who think they're hot but they're below average and barely passing with makeup, but because so many men have been trained that all women are beautiful, they can get away with it and manage to lie to themselves that they are attractive.

[devilman666]

I've literally never seen a woman who was even a 9 let alone a 10 lmao. Basically you just refuse to admit that women are just as ugly and shallow as men, if not more. Women love doing this, they generalize men on the daily and then when men return the favor all of a sudden it's wrong. "Where have all the good men gone", “Dear Men: This Is Why Women Have Every Right To Be Disgusted With Us.”, “mansplaining,” “manspreading” and “manterrupting.”, "manosphere", “Men Are Creepy, New Study Confirms”, political analyst David Axelrod was slammed as a “mansplainer” on Twitter for his observation that it’s a measure of our country’s “great progress” that “many younger women find the nomination of a woman unremarkable.”, Men who gripe about their ex-girlfriends and advise other men to avoid relationships with women are generally relegated to the seedy underbelly of the Internet — various forums and websites in the “manosphere,” recently chronicled by Stephen Marche in the Guardian. Yet a leading voice of the new feminist generation, British writer Laurie Penny, can use her column in the New Statesman to decry ex-boyfriends who “turned mean or walked away” and to urge straight young women to stay single instead of “wasting years in succession on lacklustre, unappreciative, boring child-men.”
www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[IveGotNoName]

@devilman666 You know, no one would ever talk like that about anyone in my country...

[devilman666]

@IveGotNoName that's a lie and generalization, we both know it. I'm sorry but you can't speak for everyone in your country. With that said, if you want to have a conversation about why the things I said were wrong to say then I'm more than happy to do so.

What was wrong with what I said? Why would nobody in your country talk about anyone else that way? Which country are you from?

[IveGotNoName]

@devilman666 We don't rate people at all... rating people on a scale is a very American/Canadian/English thin to do... or that's the only people I've heard doing it at least... it makes no sense... different scales for different people... af 6 to someone could be a 10 in someone else's eyes and the other way around

[IveGotNoName]

And I'm from Scandinavia.

[TheGreatAwan]

Women only care about looks and want a strong dominant alpha Chad

[Scottty2hottty]

Don't we all care about looks? I know I do and they probably do as well.

[Anonymous]

Of course they do. Women caring about looks less than men is one of the biggest myths you'll ever see in your life.

[Anonymous]

Your desireablity is based on your income not your looks. Then they piss and moan anout that as not enough either.

[doopayo]

Everyone is different, it’s not based on gender

[ibodi]

because make up make bubbles

[Iron_Man]

No they just want to be supported

[Anonymous]

I think it's about the same. You would be surprised to how many girls find you attractive.

[Asker]

Yeah none

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

Women literally don’t see 80% of men.

[JesseJayNeak]

Yes, 100%. That's why they're so picky

[Slim57]

Yeah they do so men need to as well

[bananastandbae]

We put way more effort into our looks.

[Asker]

Nobody is forcing you too though..

[WowwGirl]

Usually

[Solidsnake007]

Many girls say looks doesn't matter or just a little bit, yet they drool over hot guys.