Which so you find less upsetting? Why?

[Agape93]

Someone murdering a loved one

That loved one killing themself

[DizzyDesii]

Im not as upset when people kill themselves because if im being totally and completely honest, I think it was a dumb move. There are so many other options. I’ve threatened to hurt myself in the past but deep down i knew it was bullshit and that I was bluffing because i dont believe in that. The only way I’m going out is through some natural cause of death or someone else taking me out because I’m not going to off myself. When people talk about Robin Williams for example, I think of the good/happy things about him. If someone reminds me of his suicide, I tend to lose respect for him all over again. I dont feel bad for people who overdose on drugs and all of that. There are consequences to actions. I hate that people take the suicidal path but I am not going to cry or be upset about the result of the choice they made. This is harsh to say and probably for many to read. They may lose respect for me, but it is what it is. As for murder, that was not a choice the individual made and its sad. It might be the consequence of their actions but they did not choose to be murdered

[fonduegirl]

I picked option 2. Free will is better excecution.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

Honestly, the loved one killing themselves. Ending your own life is your choice, while ending another person's life for any reason that is not self-defense is horrible.

I know a person that is common knowledge has committed a murder, and not for self-defense and no matter how kind they are with me and how much they helped me, they know that I know that they are a murderer and regard them as such.

The only reason this person has not served jailtime it's because there's simply no proof, and once even laughed about it.

Human are extremely complex creatures, and while on one hand this person stands at the absolute lowest with me when I think about what they did, at the same time I have to consider that they never did anything wrong to me and in fact always helped me. That said, I'm always a bit wary to be alone with them or allow them around my wife and my children.

[ShadezMcgee]

I voted for number 2. Now let me explain.

I don't condone suicide, but I can sympathize and empathize with those that have gone through with it or contemplated it.

This is a horrible act that requires the individual to have full control and the nerve to carry it out. It is spurred from influence of negativity and the current state of mind of the individual. Some do it because they feel they don't matter and no one cares. Some do it because they just want the pain to end. Some just don't want to be a burden. This gives them a level of control in a world that they feel they have none. Control when it matters most to make a decision that will benefit them and give them peace.

I will be upset I couldn't help them or keep them from stopping, but I would rather that than them getting killed by some other motherfucker.

[Lionman95]

I think if a loved one is killed. The reason is that a loved committing suicide would leave me with the question what I could have done that could have prevented that or if I didn´t something wrong that made even want to kill themselves. I know that it´s not good or right to ask that question but I know I would ask it.
While if somebody got killed it feels less in my power to prevent that and I could get along with them better I assume.

[Whatthefluff]

Suicide is a choice and murdering someone else isn’t quite so consensual

[AviatorTom]

Suicide is sad, and almost always preventable.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

That loved one killing themselves