The reason there are no good men left (Women 30+ problems)

[Anonymous]

When women are in their early twenties and late teens, they are use to being in relationships or hooking up with the most attractive and/or richest men. Although I hate ratings, let's say men 8-10, are getting together with most of the women with a 5-10 rating.

This can't work in the long run, because people partner up 1-1, so those 8-10 men end up married to 8-10 women, or women of less attractiveness who exhibit character traits that they desire in a long term partner. i.e. Girl's who are not only pretty and good for a fling.

So usually all these 5-10 girls get knocked out of LTR commitment from these guys in place of girls like this:

And/or:

Girls who are smart, kind, loving and loyal that's been with them as they were growing up or liked them before they got money.

What happens with all these women 5-7/10?

They spent their twenties with men 8-10/10, and now they're left with their equals, men 5-7/10, so they feel like they're settling, or stepping down.

At the same time, men feel like they're dating up, because they never received attention from these women before. Their prior history leaves this skewed perspective.

The 5-7/10 women won't just immediately start dating their own "tier". They will swarm the 7-men. Those men who will mostly ignored in their 20's, but now gets attention from loads of women.

Eventuelly it will balance out, but not before the "slightly more attractive than average" men take advantage of the situation.

In short, average women in their twenties get attention from great guys. As people begin to settle down, average women are only left with average men, and they're left wondering where all the good men have gone.

Good men in this case being the 8-10/10 men.

[Anonymous]

There is some truth here, but you overlooked what in my experience and observation is a very important factor. The best guys in terms of marriage material - the ones who are a combination of unselfish, good heart, hard working, monogamous and family minded - get married to the best women in their twenties. So all those women who bought into the notion that they should focus on their careers in their 20s and worry about serious relationships and marriage later eventually find themselves in their 30s and single wondering where all the good men are. The answer is that they are all married already.

[RandomPerson1324]

A lot of girls who assume they are "worth something," are actually not...

I wonder why they assume their worth on the dating scene.

They "expect" a good guy, but WHY?

Just because they were born? Seems to be a good enough reason for them, but not for me

[abundantlyrich]

In my opinion, narcissism has taken over , it's a replacement for guilt trips and stupid choices made. Flesh lights, video games and weird porn are much exciting than dealing with a human being.

[thetundrawolf]

You have a good point. But if those "Human beings" are cruel, selfish, self centered, bitter, angry people, then transitioning from porn to such a person is likely impossible. It is a vicious, self repeating circle, good men fall to porn and fleshlights, while good women are left with men who only care about finding a hole, who turn said good women into bitter women, who are wholly unattractive to the men who are tired of porn and fleshlights, so they just stick to porn and fleshlights.

The vast majority of women are injured, bitter, angry, and self- important. We can thank feminism for that. But we can also thank cruel, unloving, selfish, self- centered, cowardly men for pissing bitter women off, who then went on to push for the feminist movement.

Vicious cycle. It continually repeats itself.

[Bandit74]

Men are generally less discriminating when it comes to hooking up. They have standards of course but they generally have lower standards than women do. Out of 100 women the typical man might be open to the idea of hooking up with 40 of them. Out of 100 men, the typical woman might be open to DATING 40 of them, but shed only have casual sex with maybe 10 of them. Girls rarely hookup with guys who are less attractive than them. Girls are only willing to compromise on looks for relationships.

Contrary to the notion of sluts having low standards, they commonly have HIGHER standards when hooking up. For example, read what this girl has to say about her hookups..
“My one night stands were with HOT men; men that I would have considered out of my league... When it came to hooking up, my partners prerequisite were higher; at least superficially, than those I deemed necessary in a man I was dating. Seems weird to see that admission in type but quite frankly my criteria for a man I had a one night stand with were all superficially higher; looks, swag, attitude, dress, etc. When dating, the qualities in the men I sought dealt more with depth of character and intellect.”
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This study found that the most attractive guys reported having the most sexual partners while it was the opposite for women. The most attractive women reported having LESS partners.

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So like you said, guys who are in the 8/10 range of attractiveness who are confident and fun are the ones getting most of the casual sex. They are the most successful on tinder and are often the guys who will be seeing multiple girls at the same time. The thing is they are less discriminating and often sleep with girls below their league (girls in the 5-7 range) to get easy sex and then settle down with an 8/10 girl or a girl who hasn’t slept around. The average guys get stuck committing to the average looking girls that none of the players wanted. ...

[Bandit74]

Also he generally has to wait months for the sex the players got right away. It’s like a trade the attractive guy gets easy no strings attached sex from a girl who maybe isn’t his top choice, and the girl gets to have sex with a hot guy who would have never given her the time of day if she demanded commitment first. So girls “ explore their sexuality” with guys who are out of their league physically and then settle down with a guy who is less attractive than the guys she used to hook up with, but generally this guy has a lower number of sexual partners than she does so she will lie about hers. Generally this guy makes more money so its not a bad deal for the girl.

[myTake Owner]

How come you never made a MyTake with this info?

[Bandit74]

I kinda have. Its not about this exactly but it does use the same information.

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a23173-the-slut-stud-double-standard

[myTake Owner]

That looks very long. I think you should make a Mytake article just on this and present some (not all) proof you've got to back up your point. Try to not to make it too long and have some fun pictures to keep people interested in reading and captivate what your trying to say.

[myTake Owner]

By this I mean your response to mytake.

[Bandit74]

Even though it was long there were still a lot of people who took the time to read it.

[Sleevey]

Dating apps, young men’s overactive hormones and women putting 80% of men as 1 to 3 ish and jumps to hi 7s to 10s as attractive. They call it a hockey stick when put into a graph, meaning only 20 % of “good men”. Are found as quality, or good men. Men’s graph is a common bell curve with very few 1s and 10s with most women fall in at 5_. This means men are attracted by middle of the road women as well as the top and bottom. But the top 20% of men are chased by 80% of women. The apps and young men chasing them are an ego boost and the apps give women a seemingly unending supply of 8-10s. The big problem is women take thier appeal for granted after all that attention but they first want to have the career feminist tell them to have, so they waste their most fertile years in a career. So up until womens 30s they have sex partners but don’t want a to settle but men who want children and marriage will become financially secure and then find one of those few fertile traditional 20 something women and merry them. The 20% men who don’t want a family are having a good time entertaining the 80% of women looking for a good man and have no desire to marry and have kids. so when the over confidant Career woman does a priority shift in their 30s and wants a family they realize the power they once had of everlasting flow of good men has dried up. The 20%ers men that wanted kids and marriage are married, the remainers of the 20% men who don’t want kids, and a wife are living the good life. Young ladies are giving out sex just like the empowered feminist encouraged , the men are sitting well money wise since men are surprised how little money the need To spend when single. So they can romance and date this the 20 year old girls and have sex with them since they are giving it up without commitment , yay feminism.

The 30 + females having hit the “wall”. Now have a low market value, their looks have diminished with age , their fertility is poor and at about 35 it really falls off. If they have a large body count in bed from thier freewheeled 20s make them less capable of having a lasting long term relationship, and there is evedance that women take on some of the males DNA they have slept with and that somehow transmits “over used goods” to other males causing men to avoid having children with the High risk women. You’ve hit the wall. Some will then freeze thier eggs on chance that they find the one after hitting menopause or use a sperm bank and get artificial insemination. That road isn’t that good an option, in the UK men just are not donating or selling like they had hoped. It’s created a real problem because in all of England only 7 men have been making deposits. The government is now tracking the children born from those 7 because of the increased chances of accidental incest.

So the reason is there is no good men left is due to women having unreal expectations for their man, there thrown thier fertile years out the window for carrier and uncommitted sex, and thier is one reason I’ve yet to give. They just don’t want to commit or marry in the age of divorce rape, custody law, financially ruined and all the other things that are making marriage a high risk activity with virtually no positives for men. It’s just not worth it. The only way. to win is not to play.

[ShadowStaff]

I don't know what's up with the rating system, since people rate others for all types of reasons, and of course the rating process is fluctuating. But i see what you getting at, that's simply how the biological time clock works in this culture. Women in westernized especially U. S are cultured to be promiscuous and hunt bad boys. Nothing wrong with that game, but bad boys usually are bad partners and give bad relationships. So when a woman later realizes she always did want something more stable and caring she will suddenly try to jump ship. But just like the titanic by that time their biological time clock is counting down, men are finding them less attractive, and all the good boats are gone. They'll stand there crying "where are all the good men?" or "why am I a single parent of 3 kids with all different fathers that don't pay child support". They will try to make it seem as if the male demographic has done something wrong, but in actually it is this culture of loving bad things easy cum easy go.
Don't get me wrong this by no means is a female only problem, it happens for those guys who think they are "players" too. But in the end females are usually more vocal about it happening and seem more clueless as to why it happens to them. it's like buying or building at home. If you act like a dIva turning down every humble location you'll never get a place, you have to see the potential something has, and invest in it. Sure that house on sand is right on the beach where all your friends are at- But dat storm coming doe O. O

[bomba78]

sometimes I wonder what some people smoke before coming up with theories like these...
Serioulsy?
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[Anonymous]

As a male, one thing I absolutely hate is when I get told I'm a nice guy but...

Because that makes me feel like I'm lumped in with self proclaimed nice guys, that I have no confidence/low self esteem or there's something very wrong with me that women are afraid to share or just won't share. It's even more frustrating with someone I really like who is initially attracted but backs off. And I say that without any sort of entitlement.

That being said, I've met quite a few guys who have just flat out given up on dating with all the shit they've gone through, especially online dating

[Goldie757]

The main problem is that they take too long to even think about settling down.

Think about, if a girl wanted to get married by the time she is 30 she would have to have met "the one" by the age of 25. Most men take a least 3 years to propose. On top of that it takes 1 to 2 years to actually get to walk down the aisle. In some cases 3 years if they are low on funds.

[evenlift]

This is pretty true. But, there is an additional factor that makes the picture even worse than that for women: many men these days are dropping out of the sex/dating/relationships world altogether.

[evenlift]

In other words, a woman might go from being able to date men far above her level to not being able to get men on even her own level.

[brain5000]

This is true. I am approached by women often, but at this point I would have to consider them marriage material before going on one date with them. I am no longer interested in the casual hookup. This means I never date anymore. I am happier now than I was when I was dating.

Women are lovely, but the game is no longer any fun.

[brain5000]

I have written a couple of myTakes explaining this further.

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a23131-how-to-get-through-an-extended-break-from-meaningless-dating

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a23640-could-feminism-save-the-american-family

[Anonymous]

There are good men left. I am one. I'm very handsome, sweet, have a great big heart, have my own style and have dreams. I don't fit in with 99% of the population. Everyone rejects me and is afraid of me - I'm beyond conventionally intelligent, but my social skills are bad and have a hard time fixing my life because of early experiences.
I have many prospects - they're only women who are just as physically attractive as me; but that's only where I begin to rate them. I rate them on how tender, patient and willing to understand me they are. For the most part they don't seem to be interested in me that much - probably because they can get anyone else, even if other males aren't like me.

My problem is I'm not very confident at all - it's like a yoyo and on top of that I'm so different than the average person - it doesn't seem I'm very understandable. My life is changing though - slowly.

[Opinion Owner]

I know Dan Blizzeran - nice guy. We'd be friends if I knew him personally.

[ChocEyes]

The problem with these takes is that most of them do not present any scientific data nor explicit their methodology. So - even if they make sense to some people - you can't really judge their empirical accuracy.

[brain5000]

Yes, that's why they call them "myTakes."

[HikerDude]

I generally agree. Women get a skewed sense of their own mating value based on the sexual interest (which has no relation to mating interest) they get in their 20s. This leaves most women with an over-inflated sense of worth, to the point that they come to believe they're settling simply by marrying guys who are their relative equals.

[Poppykate]

So where does that leave me, single and in my 30s? 😥

[myTake Owner]

If you have a loving personality I'm sure you'll find a guy who will love you even in your 30's.

[Poppykate]

That's sweet! So I am more than a 5?

[myTake Owner]

Judging by your profile pic I'd say your around 6/10.

[Poppykate]

Cheers!

[Bluemax]

I met my wife when I was twenty nine. Not much younger than you are now.

I'd say for an attractive woman with drive and a career, it leaves you with many options. Your options might increase if you come to America. We Yanks love Aussie accents.

[RandomPerson1324]

Means you got issues

[thetundrawolf]

Having to deal with the bitterness you feel over being betrayed by the man you are trying to forget. If you keep that bitterness, you will be unattractive to men. if you lose it and strive to love again, to surrender your heart to a worthy man again, you will have someone, again. But it is up to you to determine if that man is the right one, or not. The more you get hurt, the harder it is to keep your heart soft (And therefore attractive.)

[bomba78]

"even in your 30's"? so you are under the impression that life is over once you hit 30? lol!! you could not be any more wrong man @mytakeowner

[ThisAndThat]

It's all pretty much like American Idol or the Voice, girls are taught by the parents usually their mothers to treat relationships like a business to look for the man with the money. As soon as they figure out those men require more assets to take part in their business they come back home and turn it into a hobby. Their moms could save them the headaches by teaching them that part first.

[ShepherdOfFire99]

Good men apparently is only measured by looks. Lol, no. I've never really looked at someone's dating potential by looks but rather how they treat me. Maybe that's why I have such a great guy.

[myTake Owner]

Nope. Looks, money and social status is how their measured.

[ShepherdOfFire99]

I feel sorry for the way you see the world.

[myTake Owner]

That's the way the world see men in general by their capabilities not by their character.

[ShepherdOfFire99]

I disagree. Maybe 'society' has those views, but a lot of people don't.

[myTake Owner]

Well doesn't matter if a marginal view doesn't have those view. In the dating world and real life men are measured by these things as being good or bad.

[ShepherdOfFire99]

It's not marginal. Mostly everyone cares about character at least a little. Go ahead, marry or date someone for these traits and see how long it lasts.

[myTake Owner]

"It's not marginal. Mostly everyone cares about character at least a little. Go ahead, marry or date someone for these traits and see how long it lasts."

I never said character wasn't important but it's very low low on priority. If you don't believe me. Do a question asking guy if girls value them mostly for their looks, money and social status on this site to get the male view on dating world.

[ShepherdOfFire99]

"Male view"
No. Your view.
I feel bad for you sir.

[myTake Owner]

Yeah you really don't feel bad for me just a quick jab at insult to appear morally superior.

[myTake Owner]

Like i said talk IS CHEAP. Do a question and get male views beside myself on the matter.

[ShepherdOfFire99]

Lol you do it. I actually do genuinely feel bad for you, and im definitely not morally superior... It's like how I used to feel like no one would date me if I'm not perfectly pretty, its a sad thing to dwell on. But I've found a really great man anyways, and I see now I shouldn't have thought like that, and it makes me sorry for you that you think that way about money and social status.
Besides, the male view almost doesn't matter, the female view does, and females who are ready to settle will be looking at character.

[Anonymous]

My fiancée and I are both very religious, and are both in our first actual relationship. It was worth the wait, and we won't have that feeling of having settled. We also will be giving each other our virginities without all the baggage that comes with premarital sex.

I truly feel sorry for the young people today who have fallen into the hedonistic modern lifestyle. Less and less people will grow old with someone they deeply love.

[Explore2016]

This is so true. a lot of women turning 30 dont realise what they have been selling themselves on for years is losing its value as they get older.

[Anonymous]

Don't give me that "it will all work out" bullshit that is what people have been telling us for decades, they are lying as are you.

[rileksdld]

This is fake, even a horrible 75 years old woman have LOTS OF OPTIONS, i did the test: created a fake profile with a horrible woman of 75 years and more than 20 messages, adds to facebook, invitations to their house, open to relationship.

[Pastaa]

Lol Texan in Tokyo in the bottom pic. Love their youtube videos. :D

[Bluemax]

What's Texan in Tokyo about?

[Anonymous]

These things often leave both with a lot of baggage to deal with on both sides.

[Anonymous]

The problem is that guys who have little to no problems getting women act thirsty and this is what causes women's standards to go up

[RandomPerson1324]

I think that girls/women with even the slightest bit of looks get their nose in the air in ridiculous amounts...

[Opinion Owner]

@RandomPerson1324 True story.