Studs vs. Sluts: Let's Put This to Rest

[Tdieseler]

Studs VS Sluts.

We have all heard of it, heard about many MANY double standards that plague the dating world, or dating pool, or dating scene or whatever the fuck people want to call it. Male – Female relationships…ah..there we go. Im only going to address one today. Or a couple.

I am always astounded when I see the Ignorance behind the situation people put themselves in when in relationships. Males are too fucking desperate, and the females are too fucking fearful.

It’s not a lie that men like sex, it’s our 90 in the “90-10” theory I created which states that “Everyone has that one thing that they look for in a relationship that they can’t do without (90), and the one (or ones) that they can do without (10) the backburner.”

For guys…sex is our 90… tons of women think that its ALL we look for…it’s not. Women (and I’m talking generally or stereotypically here…whichever floats your boat) want the romantic surface stuff (90)…dates, flowers, movies, attention, etc, but they want sex too (10)…some can go without that, just like men don’t mind doing all that romance stuff (10) for their woman. We all wanna be happy right?

I came up with a joke/saying, “when you hold the keys to the cookie cupboard, you ain’t worried about the cookies, it’s the Other people that worry” lol and that is what women have…keys to the cookie cupboard.

This brings me to my topic. Women always wonder why a guy can sleep with 50 women and be considered a Stud…and a woman sleeps with only 10 and is considered a Slut…

Before I go real deep into this, let me revert back to my cookie analogy with a question…

Who is more of a badass? The person holding keys to 10 cookie safes and can get in whenever they want or the fucker who Broke Into 10 cookie safes….you know exactly who.

So when women wonder why a man can sleep around and not get fucking chastised, let me tell you the reason darlings, it’s all because of YOU…WOMEN!

You make the vagina such a valued commodity to the point where you keep the damn thing hostage…and for some, a guy has to bet the rest of his life (marriage) in order to access it. So if a man can access that same commodity, free of fucking charge…that is some Pimp shit.

To a more valid point, look at all the hoops men have to jump through in order to get ONE woman into bed. He has to do the approach, he has to impress her, and he has to find out what “rules” she has about what to do to get closer, be it 6 dates or 6 years, before you even find out the “rules” (some women don’t tell you) time is passing by…days, weeks, months…and sometimes even years. And all this time, the woman wants to be catered to, go on dates, romanced, all that shit, so it’s basically the guy just giving, giving and Giving. Just to get what? To get intimate? To get our 90? Meanwhile, the woman takes, takes, takes and Takes, but yet denies a guy his 90. Technically saying they make it hard.

To be able to do that 50 times, that’s a fucking achievement, that’s why men get the props.

Now women, theoretically, don’t have to do squat. One tight dress or short skirt or skimpy outfit and some guy or guys are lining up at the door, that’s no fucking acheivement. Hell, the shit even extends to the bed, most guys have been in a sex situation where the woman just lays there. And that is fucking awful…then he doesn’t want to be in that situation anymore and ghosts the woman and she turns around and says she was “used for sex” or “sex is all he wanted”…all fucking lies.

Let me tell you something ladies, for those of you that have actually approached men and stated your intentions, be it just for introduction or for sex because you found them physically attractive, how hard was that shit…? It’s so fucking difficult and scary as shit, but this guy does that 50 times. Yes, he’s a fucking stud. He did something scary and difficult that many times. If it were so easy, why aren’t there more women asking men out, approaching men, proposing? Why? Because its fucking scary as hell, that fear of rejection is quite something.

But instead of women admitting it, they buttered it up (like women do) and just assumed its easier for the guy..no…NO..its the same, matter of fact, its fucking harder.

If a man approaches a woman and she rejects him, he’s not allowed (by society) to bitch about it and throw a fucking tantrum, or the women will band against him and the men would band against him (white knights), and somewhere in there, her “free will” or “choice” will be thrown in and “sexual harassment” will come up.

But what happens if a woman approaches a man and he rejects her…she falls into disbelief, feels insecure, throws a tantrum or tries to force herself on him in the hopes that he is “just joking” and when he gets adamant about the rejection, she asks if he is Gay. No boo boo…I just don’t want YOU, does anyone react and tell her to fuck off that she isn’t wanted..? NO!! its fucking ridiculous. And that is part of what women don’t get, Dick is so free, that if they are shut down, they can’t believe it, the problem can’t be them right? Because women are perfect and are wanted by all men.

I died laughing one time when I read somewhere that “…only fat girls and ugly girls understand what men go through..” like you have to prove yourself, you have to work to get what you want. Many women wonder why more and more guys keep going after the “average” looking girls and the fat girls get all the guys…its simple…they GIVE to the guys as well…instead of just taking taking Taking like the “hot” girls who feel that just because they look good, they should be worshipped.

So!! when it comes to Studs Vs. Sluts. Studs are called that because they have to work hard on each and Every attempt to access the cookie cupboard, but women don’t have have it that hard, Dick is free and readily available any fucking time they want it. So what is the impressive factor? NOTHING. That is why they are called Sluts. It doesn’t really help that even though both males and females have similar sex drives, not only do women hold back for fear of being labelled, they also deprive themselves of What They Want as well, which is stupid, if something is free…get it, if you want it, get it. So it earns the label “Slut”. Not because it’s not a natural thing to have sex, but because she’s making it a bigger deal than it is.

OMG, don’t even let me get started on virgins…I’m not changing my stance on this even if I know that it’s not all women, but Everyone who knows me knows I HATE those, especially the ones who hold that virginity hostage till they lock something (or someone) down that they think is permanent (marriage). I just consider them as people that have nothing better to offer…so they hold a piece of skin hostage, and in exchange, someone has to bet the rest of their life to get to it. Dumbest fucking concept if you ask me, none of y’all would buy a car or make a big investment without knowing all the outs and ins, no test drive? really?. Maybe in the 1600’s that shit would have flown, but now there is this thing called divorce…Virginity ain't worth shit. Matter of fact, if you are a virgin, you are ranked Below the so-called slut.

Look at the reasons people break up or divorce these days…a high percentage is because of sexual unsatisfaction…but instead of gaining experience, these morons hold on to it. Because why? Nothing better to offer. Using sex as a weapon to get what they want. And there is also that Bigger moron that buys into that dream. Again, this doesn’t qualify to ALL women.

So…Studs Vs. Sluts…who would you have more respect for..? a person that came into millions by working for every penny, or a person that inherited those millions…?

And THAT, people is why men get the uplifting name, and women get the slander-ish name.

Women, if you want to change that, stop putting a price on the vagina, stop making guys jump through hoops. If you know that all he wants is sex…then give it up or leave. It’s better than waiting and gaining feelings because he does what you want, then when it’s time for him to get what he wants…you can’t (or even worse) won’t deliver. (new Take right there)

Practice practice practice. I have not ONCE in my life seen a man that has a woman that is ready to drop that ‘gina in an instant if he asks and whichever which way he wants…that has been cheated on, same thing the other way around…I have not ONCE seen a woman cheat or leave a man that has been able to jump through her “requirements” and hoops and considerations etc.…just doesn’t happen.

The “90-10” theory is real, if you satisfy his 90 with your 10, he will satisfy Your 90 with his 10, either way, you get 100% relationship and happiness. If you want your happiness with some man, instead of making him “work for it” while you do nothing, how about you DO something, sacrifice what your thoughts are, and watch him sacrifice for you too…and if he doesn’t…fuck him, move on.

Now in a situation where relationship isn’t the goal for one of these people…the way I see it…do the 90. And if they aren’t fine or happy with it…walk away. Men don’t wanna spend money, time, and ears for women (ugh, and fucking valentine’s day, like we need some corporation-assigned day to tell us we like who WE asked out)..and women don’t wanna give up the *yells* the ‘gina!!!…so if you think that is what the other person wants Only…give it to them and see if they leave. Either way…you fucking know. And you can move the fuck on.

Studs get it because they work hard on each instance…sluts get it because they can get it easy, but choose to act stupid.

Win-Win situation if you ask me. If anyone thinks im coming off ignorant (in a way I am)….i want you to scroll up…look at the topic…and pick a side…and shut the hell up. I researched this shit, but im not coming off “professional”.

(funny part…it’s you women that shame other women for the most part, for wanting something natural) It has nothing to do with men.

[JustAnotherGirlie]

This had a few half points but most of it just read like a rant. I’m not sure if you truly *get* why women make certain sexual choices.
ON VIRGINS: As a virgin, I know PLENTY of women who opt to stay virgins or celibate because they don’t know how to navigate the dating world without being taken advantage of. That, and they might be religious. It’s not about having nothing to offer, it’s understanding sex and sexuality is what men priorize most. Which leads me to my next point.
VIRGINITY IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCTION: women didn’t wake up one day and judge each other based on how many dicks they swallowed. Men created the convention of virginity, and made it more desirable to have a woman that hasn’t been touched. Rationalize this how you would like, but it begins and ends with men. So of course, men are allowed to be sexually promiscuous - it’s been expected of you for millennia. To conquer lands and the women that live in them was a historical feat, and that same mindset still exists today.
ON THE 90-10 THEORY: this seems like a gross over simplification of gender theory. I don’t get this at all. You do realize by saying that men should get their sexual tastes satiated so you can get your emotional needs met, is detrimental to understanding men right? Men are MORE than their reproductive organs - the suppression of male emotions is the key to aggression. Men are not happier being treated this way, it’s part of the reason young men have such high rates of suicide. This theory doesn’t really teach men how to pursue and acquire meaningful relationships. Sex can be used to bargain (that’s essentially what dating is) but under no circumstances should be imply that’s the be-all-end-all.
I also don’t like your word choice here. “Slut” is a loaded word with negative connotation. Women having sexual agency isn’t negative. Do better.

[silverqueen]

perfect

[Tdieseler]

Automatic MHO. You completely tore this apart without ONCE attacking the writer. Hell... i learned from this.
but leave my 90-10 theory alone. its not written in stone. its just to show that some want some things they care about and some they don't care about... 60-40 wouldn't have shown that right.

[somewheresomeway]

I agree with most of your points except for "women didn’t wake up one day and judge each other based on how many dicks they swallowed. Men created the convention of virginity, and made it more desirable to have a woman that hasn’t been touched."

That was true 20, 15 and MAYBE 10 years ago. But not today. I think women are more PARANOID about being called that from guys than it actually happening.

I seriously can count the times on one hand I've heard a man call a woman a "slut" one hand ever since I graduated from college. Feminism has successfully suppressed that term... how often do you hear it on movie, tv or music? However I do see women still shaming each other that word. Do better.

[JustAnotherGirlie]

@somewheresomeway I am not denying women internalize misogyny, but giving examples of grown men doesn’t disprove my point? Women and their relationship to men is already formed by the age of 21 in my opinion - it’s harder to break once you reach adulthood.
You can’t disagree with cultural views of women because men mostly skew towards traditional gender roles. Feminism hasn’t really changed that, it actually challenges these roles and leaves men confused as a result.
You can make this same argument when sexual assault and harassment cases are taken seriously in the United States. Then I’ll believe things have truly changed - but for now, we are still dealing with this issue

[somewheresomeway]

Actually I meant to say "since I graduated from high school".

Also the #metoo movement may have started out well (Weinstein is a POS) there has been some collateral damage with these weaponized accusations. I don't believe for a second Sylvester stallone did anything wrong and his ex wife verified she was with him the entire time during the so called 1986 incident.

I really didn't want to go down that route (it's a completely separate argument). But you brought it up.

[Tdieseler]

@somewheresomeway keep going... i wanna see where this leads.

[JustAnotherGirlie]

@somewheresomeway You got off topic. The reason I brought up sexual assault cases was because you believe slut shaming is mostly perpetrated by women. When that isn’t necessarily true.
Slut shaming is rooted in the idea that if a woman dresses and behaves a certain way, she is worthy of more respect. It’s dehumanizing and this same logic is applied to sexual assault cases. If you are not the perfect victim (read: white, virginal, modestly dressed and attacked by a stranger) then it must be something YOU did to provoke assault. This narrative reinforces the idea that women must be well behaved to avoid trouble when that has been debunked for a long time.
Women don’t fear what men think of them - we just understand that in a patriarchal society, men’s opinions and judgments don’t exist in a vacuum. It affects how seriously violence against us is taken, our work performance, even something as simple as worthiness to be courted as potential partners.

[somewheresomeway]

I lost all respect with your assumption when you brought race into the "perfect victim" comment (white, virginal, modestly dressed and attacked by a stranger).

So fed up with racial assumptions. You think you are being altruistic, but YOU are making this worse. YOU are a racist for thinking that way.

[freakyzeaky]

I do believe virginity is a social construct, but not so much due to the "patriarchy" as it was to do with the biological and familial incentive to ensure the continuation of the bloodline and that a man's child was indeed his own in a time when paternity testing was non-existent and that childbirth was a real life or death risk to the mother. After all, every subsequent birth increases the change of required a C-section, something that was a huge gamble in the ancient world (think the Roman Empire).

Virginity is also a concept perpetuated by religion as a symbol of purity. Sex for the sake of lust was seen as a huge taint on society in the ancient world. Women were considered the seductresses who uses sex to influence men who held so much prestige and power. You have to remember, in those days the male-dominated society was even possible due to the male sex's physical strength advantage.

[freakyzeaky]

Women were held in high esteem in many societies, but not in positions of control, but rather, positions of nurturing. Look up women in the Norse society. Think about how brutal and unmerciful the men were during their conquests, and yet, their home life was heavily dominated by women. The home was the woman's domain and Norse men actually revered their women as leaders, healers, mothers, and counselors. The women were the heart and mind, the men were the spirit and tenacity. The women were the love in which kept the home sacred and the men were the ones who did everything in their power, including ruthless violence, to make sure that they could sustain their way of life.

That was how it was for many societies. The roles were what allowed children to thrive in a structure that supported them rather than left them to question their place. People needed to get their ass in gear because life was fleeting and unforgivingly hard.

[freakyzeaky]

"change of required" = chance of requiring

[silverqueen]

I love how not a single woman has liked this post. Because this isn't true. You're not putting both POV's in perspective, only the male ones. There's two points of view here - a male and female point of view. You only highlighted how "hard" it is for men. Boo fucking hoo.

How about the women who are actually after sex - only- and then get called a slut and a whore because she was "easy", and then get disrespected by men for the rest of her life?

What about the girl who is naturally ugly but she can't even get an ugly guy herself, because even the ugly guy goes only after the hottest girls?

What about the men that say "women" they're actually referring to the hot/thin women, not WOMEN in general? - "Hot women are the only women" - said an idiot somewhere sometime.

The 90-10 theory is a little bogus if you ask me. 10 is a very small number compared to what I've seen - women want sex more than 10 out of 100. It's just men use sex as a tool to humilite, harm, or insult women.

If there weren't any slut-shaming, any disrespect, for women who actually are willing to fuck a guy in the first date, believe me, it'd be much easier to have sex with her instead of going for 6 years and still getting nothing. Because patriarchy. Men created this culture- now it's their (and our) responsibility to destroy that nonsense.

[JustAnotherGirlie]

This is so true! I’m not considered conventionally attractive and I grew up thinking I was some monster because men would CONSTANTLY say women get all this attention. I couldn’t relate to that and as a result, I didn’t feel like a real women. After a little time in college, I realized i was just “plain” but nothing below average.
These guys weaponize their misogyny as “opinion” when it’s obvious it’s nothing close to informed. Any man with women friends could tell him that if men wanted more casual sex, then they should promote WOMEN being sexually liberal. It’s less work for them and it stops women from being afraid of expressing their sexuality, lest they be called a “slut.”
Men can complain all they want about double standards in dating and relationships. But this is a patriarchy - women don’t make the rules. Men do

[WTFliberals]

Funny when you said patriarchy !!!
I knew this is some feminists BS... Always blaming the men lol...

Patriarchy is the best system for both men and women.
No one is stopping you from doing what you want except this negative mentality on men
You do realize you just generalized men and kept complaining... while you offer nothing in return.
Good luck with that attitude.

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals your opinion smells like shit

[ShesAmerican]

but this shit is true! agreed

[WTFliberals]

@ShesAmerican Keep whining about men darling ! nobody care...

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals LOL funny, do you see me whining? I really don't give a shit, you're the one whinning about "feminism" along with the other butthurt guys for women simply wanting to do whatever the fuck we want

[WTFliberals]

@ShesAmerican I dont have problem for women to do what they want !!!
I have problem when they keep whining because they are losers ! lol

[RationalMale]

True point. When we men talk about women, we mean 'women who are at least cute.' Same as women talking about men and meaning 'men who are at least somewhat attractive.'

[zzzondarrr]

What's wrong with patriarchy? :D
Isn't the problem is that those "studs" are being praised (by the majority of our idiot society), instead of being shamed the same as the female sluts? Isn't that how we should fight for gender equality and having a healthy society?

[latinabutterfly96]

@silverqueen EXACTLY. I wish all guys could read this but sadly 4 of them already have and 3 of them disliked your post. Some men simply don't like the fucking truth and they blame everything on women.

[latinabutterfly96]

@WTFliberals Keep making up excuses to dislike someone's opinion. This opinion couldn't be closer to the truth. I love how you just call her a feminist because you don't agree with her. Typical idiot.

[JustAnotherGirlie]

@zzzondarrr Your comment illustrates exactly the problem with patriarchy: it doesn’t just limit women, but also men. In the context of this conversation, men AND women should have safe sex with whoever they want. No need to slut shame anyone for being adults and acting as such.
The flip side to this is, the negatives of patriarchal societies also affect men. Young men are expected to be “studs” and sleep with many women to get experience. But what happens when you don’t? You get called a “beta male” and your self esteem is low - no one respects your manhood. Guys complain about this ALL THE TIME and they don’t make the connection. Women didn’t make the rules, we weren’t allowed to vote or own property like men. If you want things to be equal not only for women, but for men, you need to rethink patriarchal societies as a model.
These negatives aren’t limited to just dating either. But far be it from me to challenge the status quo

[WTFliberals]

@JustAnotherGirlie Do you need a safe space?
you seems triggered as fuck !

[WTFliberals]

Nothing wrong with the Patriarchy !!!
It doesn't affect men or women... only the ones who have nothing but whining...
there are plenty of women who accepts the Patriarchy... they worked hard and became successful without the whining of you people !!!
I dont have problem with a woman to be whatever what she wants... but please would you stfu !!! you are not a victim... period.

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals how about you stfu because you don't know what you're talking about

[WTFliberals]

Shhhhhhh go back to bed !

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals maybe if you let us do whatever we want to do without getting judged by you insecure fucks shit like this wouldn't happen, and just because small amount of women are ok with patriarchy doesn't mean that we don't have the right to be against it LOL, y'all are the ones whinning about us women wanting to do whatever the fuck we want thinking we shouldn't do certain things when we have WILLS

[WTFliberals]

I knew you are full of shit !!!
I already said do whatever you want to do... just dont whine like a little bitch about men !!!

Is that hard for you to understand?
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[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals and go to school old ass saggy fuck

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals "I don't have a problem with women doing whatever the fuck they want" yeah ok my ass LOOOL fuck outta here bitchass

[WTFliberals]

@ShesAmerican Ok... I'm not interested to debate LOW IQ ones like you !!!

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals you got an IQ lower than your shoe size so how about you get lost LoL

[WTFliberals]

@ShesAmerican What a nasty bitch you are !!!
I can see nobody wanna fuck you... LOL

[Tdieseler]

Ima just need ALL of you on this particular opinion to SHUT THE FUCK UP.
@silverqueen , i don't give a fuck about who votes or doesn't vote. that doesn't mean im right OR wrong. Plus.. you are the one talking about "naturally ugly" meanwhile i believe everyone is beautiful in their own way. My 90-10 theory is not written in stone.. it just says that there is shit you care more than others.
@JustAnotherGirlie Told you i'd see you again and cuss you out if i had to. Shut the hell up. Stop that stupid ass brainwashing shit women do to make men bow. Just because silver queen said some shit you agree with doesn't mean she's right and that is what you women don't get. Just because 1000 of you go against one guy.. doesn't mean you are necessarily right. thats 1000 ignorant people if you flip that switch... think about that.

Patriarchy my ass silver queen, what is better? matriarchy? You cunts are the ones that want equality... so either take it or shut the fuck up.

[Tdieseler]

@WTFliberals To be honest, i blame men too.. because we let them do stupid shit like this... stupid dumbass bitch ass men get their ego attacked by morons who can't even control their own emotions to decide what way to treat another human being.
Men spend their Lives TRYING to respect women, and women, spend their lives TRYING to find new ways to be disrespected... why? so they can bitch, whine, and play "victim".

[Tdieseler]

@ShesAmerican Grow the fuck up.

[Tdieseler]

Bottom Line!!! ALL of you are doing the SAME SHIT I just wrote about. Women not fucking understanding shit because they don't want to because they think just having a vagina means they have 2 lips they can say the most... and men thinking because they have two heads are the smartest.
They y'all tear at each other... then fucking what? thats why i said y'all should all shut the fuck up!!

You are ALL wrong. Im preaching freedom here. If girly and silver don't want to fuck multiple guys... thats fine... but when their future husband porks Debbie down in HR later on, none of you guys will be there would you?

WTF... if you and @RationMale and @zzzondarrr decide to go on a whore binge... you think they would envy you? they'd just bet on how many counts of chlamydia you would get.

Case in point... doesn't matter who fucks who or how many. just stop the FUCKING labelling.

[WTFliberals]

@Tdieseler Totally agree with you mate !
The male feminists are the one who let that happen... the most desperate males in the world LOL !!!
About the other point... I call it the "MYTH OF WOMEN WERE OPPRESSED IN THE PAST" !!!
since the humans were created, men created civilizations, defended their civilizations, went to fucking wars, defended their women and children from these wars and fucking DIED for their women !!! how is that a female oppression? I don't know !!!
Yes women had less freedom than before BUT even then men killed themselves defending these bitches LOL !!!
And that's why they say : "these hoes ain't loyal !!!" Hahahahaha

[silverqueen]

Funny.

I'm not even going to make it subtle that you literally expressed all your anger/emotion in like 50 posts. And it's even funnier how you think we're the emotional ones. Lmao!! You even resorted to insults- oh those are classic when you don't have any intelligent arguments to give. Sadly there's two idiots here who support each other because of their massive egoes clouding their judgment. - @WTFliberals and @Tdieseler.

"You all do the same shit..." Really? Hmm. Haven't you thought that if there are 100 million women who do the same thing, and you think you're the only one who is right... That they're actually pointing out something that you need to listen to?

If you are in a classroom and every single person says something, and you don't AT LEAST listen to them, because your ego says you're always right, then you're in the wrong. You're egocentric, and according to you the only good answer in the universe is your opinion.

[silverqueen]

Of course, I agree when you say that just because the majority says so it doesn't mean it's true. But in this case, you think women don't have it difficult too? You think men have it harder or what? Have you ever been a woman, in the first place, to start and think what "we do" and define what we are just because you think you have the power to?

Who do you think you are?

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@silverqueen I really agree with what you wrote whole-heartedly. I would like to point out though that the way men monolithically refer to "women", and only mean the ones they find attractive, is a double-edged sword. I think this has more to do with human psychology than gender. We tend to notice and acknowledge attractive people more. It would be great if more people could attempt to correct for this bias.

@WTFLiberals Dude, you suck. You have to realize that you actually haven't made a single point right? You're just up on a soap box screaming unsupported opinions and when someone calls you on your bull-shit, you accuse them of "whining".

Also, for a lot of people on this thread playing the men vs. women card, there are plenty of men who advocate for feminism at the cost of the respect of their peers ('male feminist'=*eye roll* "white knight!"). And there are even more women who advocate for toxic masculinity. All of the women who raised me, for example.

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFLiberals and @Tdiesler You're forming an echo chamber. Bouncing your identical ideas off each other doesn't make the points anyone else in this thread made any less valid.

[WTFliberals]

@silverqueen Hahahaha
I knew it you gonna talk about how hard is to be a woman !!! we're talking about the dating darling. we didn't talk about HOW HARD your life must be !!! and you couldn't even acknowledge what men did to you in the past so you just gonna play the victim card.
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@WhistleForTheChoir
Man, seriously...
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[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals You must be really insecure in your own beliefs, because the only way you can respond to criticism is with personal attacks. Posting a meme doesn't make you appear to know what you're talking about anymore than repeating the same things over and over again does lol. Do you actually want to say something that is relevant at some point, or is, "STOP IT! You're all just whiney!" the only trick you've got?

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals I mean I'd be happy to destroy your shitty beliefs for you and rake you over the coals, but first you have to state some quantifiable reason why you believe them. Because right now you're nothing more than a 28 year old toddler who just learned his first curse words.

[WTFliberals]

@WhistleForTheChoir
Male Feminists...
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[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals How clever! So you know you aren't fooling anyone and we all can see that you can't defend your own opinions? And if you can't back up what you say, it would be best to, at the very least, keep it to yourself; otherwise, people might get the impression that you're a little shit-kicking, pot-stirring pussy-wipe.

[WTFliberals]

@WhistleForTheChoir
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[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals Yeah, I am "triggered", because your dumb ass doesn't think you need to defend a single word you say. You just vomit up opinions in order to "troll" or "trigger" people. You're the exact same as a shitty 15-year-old writing mean comments on YouTube. Grow the fuck up, you weak, pathetic half-a-man. I've destroyed you on other questions and takes you've posted too, and if you had any balls you'd actually write something worth reading so I can do it again.

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals I mean honestly, is your only defense of your convictions to claim other people are insulted. Because that's not a defense and those aren't convictions lol. Your correctness isn't dependent on how many people you "trigger" or "troll". But if you want to project to the world that you have the same mind-set as a teenage internet troll, then bravo!

[WTFliberals]

@WhistleForTheChoir This is you right now !!!
https://i.imgur.com/OVoZ8l5.gif

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals Okay lol, you obviously won't stand by your convictions when challenged, so there's no point in continuing to talk to you. Enjoy your memes.

[narusasuyaoixoxo]

damn

[freakyzeaky]

It is biology that created this "nonsense". Women have more to risk from sex. Men are naturally easier due to their hormones and the drive to spread their seed. Due to this, the market is saturated with dick, or in other words, men aren't as decerning (most of the time). Most men don't need to "feel" a certain way to have sexual fun, but most women do. You might not need romantic feelings, but a guy usually has to make a woman feel something, anything, and that is a part of seduction and charm.

So naturally, women are more selective. When a woman is "easy", it isn't that much of an accomplishment, she doesn't come off as discerning, and doesn't make a man feel special when he has sex with her, especially in a relationship context. Guys, on the other hand, are praised for their experience, because they must be a catch to be chosen by so many women. He has been vetted by his experience. And when a guy chooses a woman when he has options, then he makes the woman he chooses...

[Tdieseler]

@WTFliberals Yes!! YESS!! They say they were oppressed because they didn't have a say but when it was time and they needed a MAN... he was there. so much for being oppressed.
can't believe they are saying we are banding together WHILE banding together. I quit.
Im going to go start my new series "Diesel's Rant-isodes"... at least that way... i don't have to reply to this shit.

[freakyzeaky]

... feel special.

Now if we are talking on the casual dating and sex scene, then yeah, guys will joke around about sluts and even maybe call themselves a "slut", and they expect it because it is those kinds of women who are the ones who are open to having casual sex.

So to recap:

- Women have an easier time (in general) having sex and forming relationships because they are the choosers and because men are more open to casual sex in general (biological imperative).
- Men have to work harder (skill) to seduce and charm women, so for them, it is more of an accomplishment.
- When men are "good" with women, they are vetted and other women pick up on that.
- When a man who is "good" with women chooses a particular woman for a relationship, she must be special due to all the other options he has.
- Most average looking to gorgeous women has options inherently due to the first point. A woman who screws around will not make a man feel special when she chooses him.

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@Tdiesler Dude, I might disagree with you, but I can talk to you at least. Don't encourage him. He's just a troll.

[WTFliberals]

@Tdieseler Exactly man don't waste your time !!!
I just feel sorry for some people who keep blaming men for their own fucked up life.
And the ones who hate themselves for being men too... LOL

I will be your first fan brother if you start your own youtupe channel !

Anyway take care.

[JustAnotherGirlie]

@WhistleForTheChoir considering that you are the only male on this thread that hasn’t been disrespectful to me, I sincerely congratulate you on not being an ass. I like having respectful conversations but it’s very difficult to do that when people want to make ignorant attacks based on your gender.
I am interested to know your thoughts about male-female relationships from a male perspective, even if i might disagree. Feel free to PM me! :)

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals I like how the guy who keeps talking about others low IQ's and whininess keeps bitching about how all the women are victimizing poor widdle him, and can barely string a fucking sentence together without mis-spelling half of it. I'm sorry all those mean, nasty women hurt your fee-fees, I'm sure finding some more memes of people making silly faces will help!

[WTFliberals]

LOOOOOL
www.speakgif.com/.../...ed-trigger-warning-gif.gif

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals Make ya feel better, buddy?

[WhistleForTheChoir]

@WTFliberals It helps my nephew when I make faces like that too. He's 6.

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals lmaOOO fuck outta here, you're probably a 60 year old virgin and have a dick size of a clit, cuck bitch

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals living in your moms basement looking ass

[WTFliberals]

@ShesAmerican All I can hear from you is :
vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/.../latest

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals that gif is when a girl sees your -1 incher

[WTFliberals]

@ShesAmerican You're funny !
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That will only happen when I see you in real life !
stream1.gifsoup.com/.../black-people-o.gif

[ShesAmerican]

@WTFliberals whatever u say

[narusasuyaoixoxo]

I agree, I'd watch this guy's Youtube channel.

[Asad1ONE1]

Well stated.

[Felicia5567]

I call bullshit on the 90-10 thing. Your take on relationships is incredibly sad. People have different values, not all men think with their dicks. The men I'm friends with are just as interested in meaningful partnerships and I've had many friends who loved their girlfriends to death even if the sex was scarce or not great. A great partnership is about so much more than that, and most people in long-term relationships know that. There will be times in your life that are rough where you don't have sex for months, and in a stable relationship you still love your partner. I'm not saying that sex isn't important for a good relationship, just that it's different for every person and especially in long term relationships is not a priority for most people anymore. The ones who realize that and looked for a partner who isn't just good in bed but also their best friend and someone they love spending time with, those people stay in those lifelong relationships. The ones who make their life dependent on sex are the ones who get divorced because they inevitably get disappointed by reality.

That being said, as a sexually active woman, I have never really been slut shamed by other women. I have however been slut shamed by men, even the ones I slept with. And it's really uncomfortable to be put down by someone you just shared an intimate moment with.

[WTFliberals]

The general notion about these issues suggest otherwise !!!
You are making a hypothetical situation of what is right or wrong to have a long lasting relationships where in reality is exactly the opposite.
I do agree with you that so many divorces... etc are based on lack of sex issues.. just like what OP said.
But that doesn't change the fact that a man have a lot to improve while a woman is more satisfied of what she can get.

So there is a double standards here...

[Tdieseler]

@WTFliberals yea right? im not saying Felicia is wrong, but she is basing this off of Her. Felicia... ask those "men" that you know of what they would prefer with their girlfriends or partners... and watch how many say sex.
When i said 90-10, im talking about the level of importance, not the number of things done. When a guy dates some cunt that wants him to wait 6 months before sex... it doesn't change the 90... its BECAUSE of the 90 that he stays.
Also... the 90-10 is based on 2 genders... and is only general.. its not written in stone. just basically says what women find as priority ain't shit to men... and vice versa.
so yea... its possible to be in a relationship without getting your 90... but 90... is the reason why you stay.
If that 90 takes too long though... most people stop the 10 (the other person's 90)... and poof.. the relationship dies.

[Felicia5567]

I know a lot of people who started their relationships because they were best friends. One of the best relationships I had was with my best friend. And it was great before we had sex and is still great now that we're not together anymore, because I enjoy his company and he enjoys mine. The sex was fun, but it wasn't what attracted him to me and vice versa.

Also yes, my experience is anecdotal, but so is your guys'. And that's the point I'm trying to make. It's different for everyone. I know women for whom sex is the most important thing and men. And I know women and men for whom sex is nice but not the defining part of a good relationship. And I know one asexual person who isn't interested in sex at all and still had good relationships.

[Tdieseler]

Of course i know its different for some people... my words aren't set in stone lol... they are just addressing the MAJORITY... i think thats what WTFliberals was talking about too... of course i know there are anomalies... but what happens most of the time?
That is what im addressing.

[Felicia5567]

@Tdieseler I understood what you're saying, I'm just questioning it, because it seems to be anecdotal rather than actual data. I'm sure there's no study that backs the 90-10 thing

[Tdieseler]

There isn't... there is just MY personal research... want some back up? the theory states that everyone wants something out of a relationship, and everyone has something they either don't want, can do without, or their partner wants... so list all the somethings you want... thats your 90. Then list all the somethings you DONT want, or don't want to do but your partner wants... thats your 10.

If you tell me you don't know what you want out of a relationship... then you are just fibbing. im also sure you have stuff you don't care about. Classic case in point... usually (and according to the theory) the 10 you don't give a shit about is usually to supplement your partners 90. so think carefully

[Unit1]

For the most part I do agree with this. I have only a few moments, that I would override on this:

While the cookie jar and cupboards analogy is understandable and approved by me, I rather go by the key and chests analogy. A chest, that can be unlocked by several keys is not a desirable chest. A single key, that can unlock several chests is a masterkey. In this case men are keys and women are the chests. Since like you said the vaginas have a value attached to it while the supply of dicks grows like on trees.

I do not approve virgin shaming but I tend to agree with you about the "saving for marriage" part. I don't mean, that I dislike people, who stay virgins for whatever their reasons are but I do agree, that it's really just nonsense. And I'm a kissless virgin involuntarily.
The buy a car without test driving it applies outstanding to this logic (or any other major investments).

Last but not least: If women want to have sex a lot, then all power to them. They carry full responsibility with their bodies and what happens to them and their reputation. I'd only ask from them to be very responsible and careful when they plan to go on dating later on while enjoying having sex. They better aim to conceal the "slut" reputation if they are about to get one. It can be done by having friends-with-benefits with much lesser risks involved. At least in my opinion it seems so.

But at the same time, I don't really suppose, that "manwhores" are desired by women, so there comes this possible drawback.

But still, great job on this!

[Tdieseler]

I've heard the keys and chests analogy too... awesome as well. Great comment.

[Unit1]

Thanks bro.

[Tdieseler]

Notice the female down votes? lol... solidifies that you are talking some true shit.

[Unit1]

Some just want to see what they want to see and not the overall big picture. It's of no surprise. In fact I'd say this just shows, that i am doing something right.

[Tdieseler]

Need to invite you to the club. we think just the same. and we have down vote bets... im still on top with 18 female down votes for what i said. someone came close...16... but still..

[Unit1]

Heh. Count me in then. I guess.
Where did you collect those downvotes?

[Tdieseler]

on here. We have a collective theory. Females HATE it when we say the truth... so when we say whats true... we get down voted. So the theory is to say more truth and see who is truer than who. Basically the more FEMALE down votes you get, the more likely what you are saying is true.
I still have the cup.
check my Takes... after a while... females stopped down voting me lol...

[Unit1]

Depends what "the truth" is. MGTOW made their red pill sound like truth but in reality often do they just project their bitterness and then call it "the truth" (all women are gold diggers etc...).

[Tdieseler]

i realized MGTOW late, tried to join. I saw it for what it was too. I wouldn't call it bitterness... i'd call it whining.
but have you ever thought of this... maybe you shouldn't label em. maybe that is why women have the upper hand. They band together to protest... no one says shit... but men band together.. and all of a sudden, they are pussies, bitter, whiners.. blah blah.
Thats WHY women have the upper hand. I personally don't need a group to shut a bunch of female cunts up. but there are some guys that do. and there is nothing wrong in requesting back up. Thats why i dont call any male anything. The enemy is out there... walks on two legs has 4 head lights and 2 tail lights, and an opening that faces downward.

[Unit1]

It could be either whining, being bitter or both. There are men out there shaming feminists, who band together and speak up (also MRA), so no one here really has the upper hand. The so called "strong and independent" women (and I don't mean the feminazi variant of it, who doesn't need a man) is also being shamed despite being tame, able to live on her own and being financially independent, so that she doesn't need a man for his wallet, yet there are actually guys out there, who get offended by it. For me, I prefer those exact women.

[Tdieseler]

i prefer them too... when they aren't attacking my ego... i prefer strong independent women... so when they try being dependent... i can tell em to go fuck themselves lol.

Its been fun Unit... hey... go read my Take
Tired of the Bullshit (Diesel's Rant-isode) Ep 1 ↗

Because ep 2 is about to come out. i just need to run to the liquor store and find pics... i would appreciate ur input... oh wait... the disclaimer says i won't hahahah...

[Unit1]

Likewise but wow, that's a complete book chapter you have there. I can't read it right now. I'll check it out later if I don't forget or if I find time for it, which I currently really am lacking.
Perhaps employ some GIFs or something. That "he looked at another woman" part is really blood boiling 🤦🤷
Oh well in this case... bitches like these ain't shit but hoes and tricks.
Independent women for the win mate! And if they are confident and sex crazed, it's a complete win!

But I'ma tell you with an attitude like that women will sense it right away and keep away from you. Or at least I think so and was taught so by the women.

Anyway here is a little something of something for ya

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So yeah... don't be this ^ guy.

[Unit1]

Also I am okay with independent women becoming dependent from time to time. I'm much more embracing of women than that.

[Tdieseler]

hahaha, guy. Sadly, that is so true. Im not that guy though, I do fine in my women game. Maybe a little too fine. I take it in stride. I expect nothing and always say not to expect anything from me either. Thats how i roll.
You know I've put out 2 more since then?

[Unit1]

I'm not aware.

[haveyouseenmyhw]

You realize men can have sex, wash off and continue their merry way while women might have to deal with becoming pregnant for nine months and then raise a child. Biologically speaking, it makes sense (at least to me) that women are more careful than guys with who they have sex with. I understand there are birth control methods to prevent this, but it's still biologically hard-wired into females minds. They get shamed by other women and men for making stupid sex decisions not because they hold the keys to the "cookie cupboard" and they didn't have to hop through any hoops to get the cookie but because careless behavior in terms of creating your own family means they are more likely to be a careless parent that doesn't raise her family right. We have many idiots in this world today, it'd be nice if we had smarter parents to raise kids up correctly. In addition, sex is a form of intimacy that can be used to deepen a relationship and make it so that the couple has a stronger bond with one another. Sleeping around destroys this effect, making breakup more likely and harming the children that family had.

[narusasuyaoixoxo]

Just an echo at how the "alpha male" mentality is at it's decay in actual society. So many guys try to emulate our primate ancestors thinking it will take them somewhere, but it's losing it's touch as we evolve. :p

[WTFliberals]

@narusasuyaoixoxo Alpha male is still the highest goal for a lot of women.
the problem is the misconception of alpha male through the media...
no reason to hate lol.

[DonCachondo]

Before the age of contraception and, more decisively, birth control, women's sexual behavior made perfect sense. Any intercourse could reasonably be expected to result in a life-risking pregnancy and longterm investment.
But now it's time for women to update their software. The circumstances have changed and your reasoning can surpass your biological urge to hold out for the "right" guy. Men have had to suppress their biological instincts for a long time to a large extent in order to function in society, and I can tell you it's never easy for us. On the other hand, women just need to lower their caution a bit and develop a greater appreciation for visceral pleasure.

[freakyzeaky]

This goes back to the idea that men are the penetrators and the women are the receivers. Men penetrate with their penis, true, but they also penetrate with their love. It is up to the man to penetrate through a woman's walls, to break them down, so that he can give her his love.

If a woman's "walls" have been penetrated many times, and she has received both sex and love easily, then any subsequent men who seek to penetrate her with his sex/love will not be as special. A man wants to feel special just as women do.

So in that regard, yes, men are seen as more special if he has the capability of penetrating a woman's walls to give his sex/love.

I am not saying this is "right", morally or otherwise, but it is just the way sex and love have been viewed for thousands of years. There is a reason why men are the ones who are expected to court a woman, lead, and essentially be "chosen" by her.

The best thing for men is to be more discerning and to be more choosy. Men need to create boundaries. We essentially need to go out own way. Then when we do find a woman who is receptive to our love, allows herself to be "penetrated", then he will make her feel special because he chose her just as much as she chose him. That is what both men AND women want.

[Poppykate]

I agree with this! 👍🏼 The one thing I have never gotten my head around in terms of casual sex, is that there is nothing really casual about it. A woman is allowing a stranger to put a very private part of himself into her. It’s close and it’s intimate. It’s not casual.

[Tdieseler]

@Poppykate I agree with this too. He is basically saying the same thing i said.. but in a less..."cunty" way. I suck at delivery, but if you read again... i said almost everything he said.

@freakyzeaky please.. regal me (i think i spelled regal wrong) with the reason why men are the ones expected to court...
so i can remind you what year we are in and what women have been fighting for for what? 30 years... more? the beginning of time?

[freakyzeaky]

Men are expected to prove themselves because the market is saturated with dick. Men are not as discerning as women most of the time. Our horomones have us wanting to spread our seed. Due to this, traditionally women are more selective and it is up to the man to court her, or basically put forth the effort to stand out and "woo" her.

However, men shouldn't woo. Men need to be more selective and let women chase after a while. Men can still penetrate with their love but can do so with being decisive even though they let the woman form an attachment through mystery and unclear feelings.

[freakyzeaky]

*with = while

[Tdieseler]

hmm... deep insight. I liked the first paragraph a lot... guess you know what you are talking about. No need to go in.
Thank you for the insight.

[dwiller943]

This. I agree with.

[Tdieseler]

@dwiller943 right? right?

[freakyzeaky]

It is also biological. There is this imperative for men to try and lock down women to ensure the survival of their genes. This is what makes many men so possessive and so stubborn when it comes to relationships that are on the rocks. Often times, men will suffer for the sake of comfort and family, while women tend to be willing to move on for social and mental health. Why do you think women are the ones who initiate divorce vastly more often? It is still a tough decision, one that most women do not take lightly, especially when there are children involved. However, for them, while the family unit is important, it isn't merely the survival of the family, but also the development of the children and to create a healthy environment for all parties.

On one hand, you have the men who are about preserving the biological and social structure component for their offspring, and on the other, women, who do not have this imperative, but rather, the nurturing of the individuals are the priority.

[Tdieseler]

No offense Freaky, but i think we have wandered off the topic here. what you say is true.. but how does it correlate with "Studs Vs Sluts"

[freakyzeaky]

Because women were expected to be locked down while there is a biological imperative for men to lock down as many women as possible. Just look at the kings of the past who had multiple concubines. These concubines weren't permitted to screw around on the side, all due to the fact that they were expected to bare the king's children and not other men's.

For women, there is a biological risk to screwing around, for men, not so much. This could be why it is seen as more acceptable for men, on a deeper biological level, to spread their seed while it is seen as dangerous and irresponsible for women to spread their legs to just any man they find sexually attractive.

[Tdieseler]

ok... i like going deep into shit but goddamn... @freakyzeaky
i just say it ain't fair. notice the fact that its always the man "fucking" the woman... why? they can "fuck" us too...
hahahaha... eddie griffin said "sex don't start till a dick get hard, when a dick get soft, sex is over" lol... true words...
i just don't like the idea...
hey zeaky have you read my rantisodes?

here, i'll link you with the first...
i think there's 3 out now... working on 4 more.

Tired of the Bullshit (Diesel's Rant-isode) Ep 1 ↗

[somewheresomeway]

ADVICE TOWARDS GUYS:

When I was younger I used to have the same locker room "pool bet" that the coolest guy could get the most ass and/or the prettiest ass and/or the kinky ass (3somes) etc.

But you know when they bury you someday do you think of they are going to inscribe on your tombstone: "Here lies so and so... he was a manwhore.. loved by all"?

The only guys who consistently brag about their sexual achievements and/or belittle other guys they think aren't scoring are either A: lying douchebags B. insecure douchebags who are failing in many other areas of life.

Human beings are giving sexual organs and strong hormonal to reproduce. But whether somebody is getting laid or not should be nobodies business. Focus on what you are good at and the romantic partner will come.

This is coming from a guy who has slept with more than 40 women by the way. Not proud of it anymore. In fact if I could do it all over again and marry a woman as a virgin (hopefully she is too) I would been much happier with that path.

FOR LADIES:

First off the "slut" stigma is dying out nowadays. Many of you are still hung up on it but it's really OTHER WOMEN shaming each other vs. men shaming women.

Second, off you need to be able to control hormonal reactions to players. Many of you will "say" you know better, but why is it so many of you keep falling in the same trap? In the days of equality, you should give "nice guys" more of a chance. They'll treat you better and respect you more. It will take mental effort for you to overcome that initial lust you feel towards a manwhore, but it's not giving in.

Now if you want to sleep around that's on you. You have to worry about pregnancies and/or STDs (guys worry about the latter to). But if you find a guy you really like just remember you will take an extra commitment to make him trust you.

[Tdieseler]

This kinda went in and out for me. it was a roller coaster... up one sec, down the next. It does kinda shame the men and sympathize with the ladies...
nonetheless... a good analysis...

[dwiller943]

Yes. All of that is so true.

[AFishy2]

Sorry man... There is one big thing I must disagree with: the virginity part. Sorry if the fact that sex is sacred is a concept you can't grasp, but going around and telling people that their convictions are stupid is not okay! Both my own morals and my spiritual convictions don't allow me to lose my virginity before marriage, so sorry if I don't necessarily agree with you on everything!

[Tdieseler]

What are you fucking apologizing for? I asked you to chime in.. let me fucking have it. don't go easy on me darling :) . Im hoping im not agreed with lol.. i want the debate.

You say sex is sacred.. i say sex USED TO be sacred. and if its not sacred anymore.. then virginity ain't shit no more.
I say marriage is sacred, I for one will NEVER divorce. but look at divorce cases... over 70% are initiated by women, which blows my mind because its women that usually goad/taunt/prod a man into proposing when the man isn't ready for that shit. so stuff changes.
If you have your spiritual convictions, that is absolutely cool, but ima still stuff you in that category, at least you have some reason. What about the rest of them that just hold it hostage because they want something else? its a fucking transaction and that irritates me.
i look at it in real time... what is the leading cause of most relationship breaks? sexual unsatisfaction. but instead of getting experience people just bet.

[Metaanio]

What is sacred depends person. What is your problem of someone being virgin? It shouldn't scratch your ass anyway.

[AFishy2]

@Metaanio thank you!

[Tdieseler]

@Metaanio i don't have a problem with virginity, i have a problem with the EXPLOITATION of virginity.

[AFishy2]

be more specific as to what that means please

[Tdieseler]

you mean me? or metaanio...

[AFishy2]

you...

[Tdieseler]

just the way many women and some men hold on to the damn thing so damn tight. I don't get it. its a natural occurrence that meant something way back when. but that time has gone. Now people want "experience" and a virgin is DEFINITELY not that.
lets not even discuss the hostage situation and the fact that some women have actually Auctioned off their virginity for money.
Making it seem like having this totally natural occurrence shows some kind of Worth or something. You didn't EARN a virginity... it was just there. it was given. you EARN experience. thats what makes her/him worthy.

I still stand by my thoughts that people that hold on to that, honestly feel worthless and have nothing else to offer... and even though i know it comes off ignorant... I've seen many instances.
So you haven't been with anyone else... big fucking whoop.

[AFishy2]

well I guess I can see where you are coming from with come of that, but for some of us, saving virginity is not to hold something over someones head or be selfish... I want it to be special for the person I marry, and the "experience" is a sacrifice I am willing to make for that

[Metaanio]

@Tdieseler There is saying: It's not stupid who sells but who buys?

People who pays to have sex with virgins are the one setting value, not seller.

Virgins are not most often the ones making big deal about it, but others are. Just like you did, saying "worthless and have nothing else to offer".

You are making thing about it, not them.

[AFishy2]

@Metaanio thanks again... I am glad not every guy feels this way

[Tdieseler]

that is a very small portion...

The intention is great and all, but being someone who has been with (im not saying) a number of virgins and having been a virgin myself at a point... sex is NOT what you think it is. I thought i could make love like a pornstar... lol.. my first time was awkward as a bitch.
and the virgins I've been with... talk about all the shit they would do (intention) but when it happens, they don't, or won't...

You use the time now to gain that experience... sift through what you like and don't like.. what works and doesn't work, and when you finally find that non existent "right" guy... you can blow his mind right from the start.
Rather than him having to Teach you stuff. which is fucking annoying.

"... sounds like a punishment, 72 virgins, why not 72 slutty broads that know what the fuck they are doing" - Walter by Jeff Dunham.

[AFishy2]

The "right guy" is not non-existent as I have witnessed many of the relationships... And any guy I marry would likely be a virgin as well based on where I am looking

[Tdieseler]

@Metaanio you are fucking right... its on the buyers... and i do say this. Even AFishy has seen me bitch about this shit. the only thing i hate more than "for marriage" virgins are the MORONS who fucking buy into it. you are fucking right.

[AFishy2]

Well... Glad to know I am not the MOST hated person... :/

[Tdieseler]

AFishy... the reason why i said its non existent is because I've heard of the shit so many times... you finally get comfy with someone, you do whatever with them.. then down the line something happens and you split, and sometimes its a Nasty break... then this hypothetical "right" person... all of a sudden is now the "wrong" person and there is regret and all that blah blah bullshit.

No such thing as the "right" person... if anything... YOU decide who that is. and just like "happily ever after" you try not to put a label on it.

If you wanna marry a virgin too... thats great... nothing as great as two people walking into the unknown.. and if it bombs... twice the impact... im all for it. Except that more and more men have evolved to know that experience is worth more... and i can back that statement up.

[Tdieseler]

no one hates you @AFishy2 what are you talking about? who hates you? point em out... i'll set em straight.

[AFishy2]

Let me draw your attention to what you said... "The only thing I hate more than "for marriage" virgins..."

[Tdieseler]

hahahaha... that wasn't aimed at you specifically darling... it was just one of my facts. Someone told me a quote... something along the lines of "it is not necessarily the seller that is in the wrong, but the buyer" or some shit like that.
I interpreted it to the virgin shit by thinking... its true "if men didn't put such a fucking high value on virginity, women won't be able to hold that shit just because they want marriage" they'd be lining up to drop the shit.
but men chase virgins for some ego boost..."being the first one" "no one to compare to" and my personal fave "bragging rights"...
so women hold on to it. if a man wants to get his ego boost/ first one/non comparison/bragging rights... she has to get hers first... and what is hers you ask? Marriage.

You get my meaning?

[AFishy2]

I guess... Anyway... I am taking myself out of this one now...

[Tdieseler]

aww... dammit.

[narusasuyaoixoxo]

Thing is, it's a little hard to appreciate sex as this intimate and "sacred" thing when the lowliest things like porn involve it and devalue it on a daily basis. And truth to be told, this was literally how I saw sex for most of my teenage years. I could hardly even associate it with actual love expression, and especially how people casually throw those things around and the same guy jacking off to porn even dares spout things about love.

In the end, I agree with your message and end goal.

[Tdieseler]

@narusasuyaoixoxo at least u get it

[HamAndCheese]

Pretty solid myTake. I really like your analogy with the cookie jar. I must say though, I disagree with your criticism of virgins. Virgins are valuable because...

1. Their virginity over a long period represents patience and self control.
2. They have less wear and tear, this car and spanking new. (No beef flaps.)
3. Unlike women with large quantities of sex partners, they are statistically less likely to get divorced, or cheat.

So with a virgin you're getting a higher quality product, and a far greater level of personal security attached to it.

[Tdieseler]

Thank you... thank you. I've worked on that cookie analogy for years... i have a car one too.

I can see your point... but im gonna raise you.
1. Is that why most talk so much about sex? its only fear that stops them... not patience or control.
2. Less wear and tear... well, as much as i'd like to agree with that... do you know about this thing called review? how do you know something is good when NO ONE else has ever tried it. Plus would you get a car based on what the dealer tells you or fucking test drive the shit yourself.
3. I call bullshit on this one... but agree it does happen, but that is why you give her EVERY reason not to look elsewhere... you tear that shit up in the bedroom and blow her mind outside of it.

Which brings me to my final point... many men just don't want to do much work, so instead they want a virgin, so they aren't compared to anyone else. But guys that know what the fuck they are doing, want someone who knows what the fuck they are doing too.

[HamAndCheese]

1. This is anecdotal, at best. They might be curious, but that's not entirely inexcusable. Most seem to do it out of religious convictions which is perfectly okay.
2. The issue here is that a seal of freshness cannot be, "un-broken" once damaged. And if everyone gets a review then it becomes pointless altogether.
3. It's statistically documented.

ifstudies.org/.../

I'd like to hear the car analogy too.

[Tdieseler]

when i find it, i will let you know. its basically me just saying you don't buy the car without test driving it... but i broke it down to some cunt who was a "for marriage" virgin.
I don't care much for studies either. I live the shit. or i get told... I have my statistics.

1. No it fucking isn't.. yea, they are curious.. but it ends there. and the religious ones are the WORST. Id rather be with one that just couldn't get any.
2. you do know that female virginity can be surgically replaced right? and if it still has that "seal" no guarantee of freshness lol... i can personally attest to this one. one of the virgins i was with.. after penetration.. got a yeast infection.. omg talk about stink. She wasn't used to maintaining her vagina because it never had another object (dick) in it. so no... no i disagree.
3. oh... answered this one already... fuck their stats i have mine.

[Felicia5567]

Geez, you know how horrible it is to call a woman a low or high quality product? Damn.

[HamAndCheese]

1. This is purely opinion based/anecdotal evidence.
2. Screwing the lid back on to a soda does not make it a fresh soda, it just means you put the lid back. Finally, a virgin isn't as likely to have an STD. So the health issue is a moot point because you're merely replacing one risk with another.

[HamAndCheese]

Well we're already discussing intimate personal relationships as a, "transaction" so who cares?

[Felicia5567]

I've been sexually active for years and have never had an STD because I am careful, use protection and get a checkup every three months.

Again, with the product comparisons. Damn. I'm not a soda can. I'm a person who's been living life and had experiences with different people that led me to know what I want in life and decide on a partner who is fit on me. Through my relationship experiences I found someone I love and who is right for me. Unlike my mother, who was a virgin until she was married, only to find that my father and her were not physically compatible at all and being left after 30 years of marriage. If people choose to be virgins for religions, great. But lets stop romanticizing it, it can come with a lot of issues.

[HamAndCheese]

So does sexual promiscuity. Sorry, I prefer a virgin to someone who sleeps around, and that's that.

[Tdieseler]

@Felicia5567 Gotta side with her ham and cheese... she's got a point. and the shit that she said about her mom... THATS the shit im trying to avoid. thats why im not a fan of virgins. can't do it. Felicia here has done her shit.. knows what she likes or doesn't like... so when the time comes... she can state it out loud. What do virgins know? NOTHING.

Im not against you wanting a virgin Ham, but my thoughts on men that want virgins, especially those that are not virgins themselves, it bottles down to their ego and insecurity. they don't want to be compared.
I on the other hand, i want to be compared... so when i come out as "the best she ever had"... im straight.

ain't gonna lie.. i was with this one girl who had only been with one guy... but after me... she was like i didn't know there were better... needless to say.. i think i might have added another "whore" to the already growing population lol. I heard stories.

[HamAndCheese]

But that's anecdotal. And you have no basis to say that it stems from ego and insecurity which is very rich since you then immediately afterwards express your own desire to be considered the best. I have no interest in Arby's employee of the month.

[Tdieseler]

I can see... thats why you want the easy route... its easy to be "Arby's employee of the month" when you are the ONLY employee...
im saying its more fulfilling to actually have some competition.
Its all about ego... but the insecurity part is cuz of the fear of comparison... and i don't have that.

[HamAndCheese]

Competition? Intimate relationships aren't some sort of game. Do you know what Arby's sells?

[Tdieseler]

Im pretty sure I've seen an Arby's... and yes, intimate relationships are not a game... BUT if you THINK of them as a game...

[Felicia5567]

@HamAndCheese are you a virgin? Because if you are and virginity is important to you for some religious reasons, that's totally cool. If you're not, and you still prefer virgins, that's pretty messed up.

[Tdieseler]

@Felicia5567 For years I've said the same thing to men... they whore around then when they want to "settle"... they want a virgin...
I think i even did a math thing one time to prove that its a stupid concept. Makes no sense to me.

[Felicia5567]

Luckily I've never had to deal with that. My boyfriends so far were all grown ups who had their own experiences and respected that I had mine. Which I'm really glad about.
Hamandcheese seems pretty young, maybe he'll notice after a while that vaginas don't actually get loose from sex.

[Tdieseler]

@Felicia5567 thats hella funny. I think he has some solid intentions... but his outlook is a little naive. But he seems to know that too... so.. hey, its his choice... and im all for it. as long as he knows. Im only educating, not changing lives/minds.

[soccerchick4eva]

Ya know I tend to always think they should be called the same thing because at the end of the day they both sleep with numerous people. The factors that are included in the lead up maybe different but it still leads to the same thing. Everyone fears rejection and I've seen women also make the move so it's both sides. In saying that I dont agree with the name calling tho haha.

The virgin part I don't agree with, I stayed a virgin till I met a guy that I felt comfortable with and was in a relationship with. I didn't want to just chuck it easily.. to me it was a big thing because I didn't want to regret it since you do tend to remember your first.. also I don't believe in divorce, so to me its a big thing haha

[Tdieseler]

look on the bright side now though... you are free of that useless thing. and its sad as a bitch that you do remember your first... do you know that till today, my first doesn't believe she was? ugh... its annoying. i wasn't a whore till later.

I do agree with your idea of having them labeled the same... im still trying to figure out why the impact isn't the same...
Example... call a woman a whore and she crawls back into a shell, feels dirty, etc blah blah... call a guy a whore... it goes Right Back to him feeling like a stud. I think he should feel dirty.
Thats what i was trying explain here... why women feel the labels... and why guys don't.

[soccerchick4eva]

haha well I'm still with my first so it's still bright for me :")

yeah that's exactly it, sadly don't see any of it changing -.-

[Tdieseler]

... and that is fucking awesome!!!

[WTFliberals]

Brother... You are my twin !!! lol Such a good take.

My favorite part is the differences men and women go through to please each other !!!
I said it before that men are less picky regarding women !
I've seen it happened to a lot of guys ( my friends, coworkers... etc )

Personally I don't have any problem if the woman really in high status !!!
I respect that woman and I understand that she is more picky.

But the general notion, when a woman expect a man to be ideal with her "personal checklist" and have nothing to offer in return is purely BS !!!

It goes both ways !!! both men and women have to improve in order to form genuine relationship rather than fucking the next hoping to reach the closest thing to her/his ideal image of a partner !!!

And this apply on guys too !!! never lower your standards and become a slave to the pussy !!!

And Finally :

[Tdieseler]

IKR!! I've been a fan of yours too since i first saw your posts... i believe i was the first one to tell you we were similar. Thank you for your elaboration.

[WTFliberals]

Always pleasure man.

[Tdieseler]

Im working on the next one... and dude... this one is going to be a fucking ground breaker.

[WTFliberals]

Cool man !!! can't wait for controversial topics ! lol
You gonna post it today?

[Tdieseler]

probably late... its HUGE. its gonna shake GaG... and im gonna make even more female enemies. Of course its gonna be Promoted and Featured... but thats not the issue... its what happens after that is gonna be my hell lol...

[WTFliberals]

Hahahaha that's my man !!! can't wait for this...

[Tdieseler]

Oooh Jesus... I don't know where to start. Do you know ALL my Takes have been Featured... i just realized that... kinda bragging now lol

[WTFliberals]

Lol thats cool man... i hope not some feminist gonna approve your take and mess with it.

[Tdieseler]

They have been pretty much cool with my takes... only messed with one as far as i know and that was "Players Vs Cheaters"... it was just about the title and a couple of pics but they asked me first.

[Tdieseler]

honestly, im surprised they let it fly considering my delivery...

[D1VADAME]

Makes a good amount of sense, actually. I don't agree with calling women sluts though.

Yes, guys have to work really hard to get to the cookie cupboard. But is it not cruel to call she who holds the key a slut if she WANTS to sleep with other guys? If she made the effort to sleep with guys simply bc she likes to have sex, I don't think it's right to call her names. She can do what she wants with her body. Especially if she approached first like guys do and nabbed lots of guys, shouldn't she be a stud in her own way?

[Tdieseler]

I think you got my idea wrong... I... dont agree with the names/labeling either. why you think im trying to put it to rest. A woman can have sex with as many guys as she wants...
I've never understood why guys would call a woman names after having sex with her... just hurt feelings i guess... and when other women "slut shame"... i always tell those morons to stop hating cuz they can't get none.

I believe in the motto "if one can do it, so can the other"... so everything you said makes sense especially that last part... it SHOULD make her a stud... but sadly, because of today's dynamic and how easy it is for women to get laid... its not.

[HOAAH]

Stop comparing people to cars.
Stop judging virgins, get over yourself. They want to save for marriage, what's that to you? It makes them happy, leave them alone. I would never date or marry a guy who slept with 50 women as if sex is the only thing he wants. That's dumb.

[Cait_Lyn]

I understand the logic behind men being "praised for their achievements", but why does this have to go hand in hand with women being shamed for the same thing?
Everybody should just be able to fuck as few or many people as they want without having to face any judgement whatsoever, at least in my opinion.
Still, even if I don't agree with all of it, an interesting take.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

Men have to work at having sex while women put if far less effort to achieve the same goal.

[Sowhoawolf]

@Wwwyzzerdd he is right

[LoloWaye]

@Wwwyzzerdd So that's a valid reason to shame women?

Men can do a lot of things easier women can't and vice versa. boohoo

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@LoloWaye You don't seem to get that men get praised because sleeping with a women is work. Men are easy. In today's times she doesn't even have to do anything more than 5 minutes on a dating platform before her inbox is crammed full. She can dress slutty, go to a bar on a Friday night and SHE HAS OPTIONS ON WHO SHE TAKES HOME. Men don't, we have to take what we are given and even when we work, pay, and do everything right she still has the right to say no.

So that's why we are praised for being sluts. If you are still confused then I can't help you.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@LoloWaye If you're going to be petty I can just end the conversation.

[latinabutterfly96]

@Wwwyzzerdd She's being anything but petty. I love how these days, sexism continues but it's a lot less obvious. You're not even taking her response seriously. There's nothing in her comment that screams "petty". But your response seems more ignorant and petty than anyone else's in this post.

[latinabutterfly96]

@Wwwyzzerdd You're only talkng about attractive women. But also attractive men get a LOT of female attention. Unattractive males don't. It's the same fucking thing. You just have to open your eyes - appearance matters to us too.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

I'm unsubbing from this since none of the pinks want to actually hear a guys perspective.

[silverqueen]

@Wwwyzzerdd Funny. The only one who is putting his perspective as if it's the only perspective in the world... is you. Everyone here is giving different opinions yet you shame them for it. According to you, your opinion is the only truth in the universe. Be humble for once please.

[LoloWaye]

@Wwwyzzerdd I heard your perspective. and I gave my response. I don't have to agree with it.

[Wwwyzzerdd]

@silverqueen Ugh, if you're going to womansplain then I'm going to block you.

[Tdieseler]

i think @Wwwyzzerdd reexplained it in his first comment...

[silverqueen]

@Wwwyzzerdd LOL. I don't think you understand what the word 'mansplaining' is to say that I'm "womansplaining" you. Check that first. Second, I'm pointing out that if a woman or a man is promiscuous, you have no right to call them out for it unless you want them as a potential partner. Also, it would be wrong of you to insult these people if they've had safe sex and don't have STDs or anything, because they have virtually done nothing wrong. Only sex. SAFE sex.

The only reason why people are so scared of safe sex is because of religion and men trying to suppress womens' freedom. It's pathetic

[Shaft50]

90/10? Well, I suppose you did say it was generic. But the people who shame are also gender specific aren't they? They guys get applauded by guys... the girls don't get applauded by guys or girls. You'd be hard-pressed to find a guy who would boast of his 'conquests' carelessly. He would do so in an environment in which he will feel validated. Plus, due to the societal shaming, women also keep their preferences to themselves in regards to how much sex they want (guarantee that the 90/10 rule would not apply if honesty was applied).
Speaking of honesty, not all guys would even fit into the 'stud'/slut category as not all guys are honest about the notches on their bedposts.

[silverqueen]

true!

[Tdieseler]

The 90-10 theory is just a guideline.. i don't know why people keep thinking its written in stone. I was just differentiating that there are things people want... and what they don't want. and usually, what they don't want is what the other wants... the 90-10 theory for the most part stops after a commitment is made. for the most part.

[silverqueen]

It's not even close to reality, that is the problem. We all know it's not written in stone, but it's not remotely true. You say the "majority" of people follow this theory but no, not even close to the majority. There's many flaws in your myTake. Improve. And get better informed please.

[Tdieseler]

@silverqueen Im DEFINITELY not listening to a female. Trust me on this one. I know what you women do and how you do it, even if most of the time you don't even know you are doing it. Nope... fuck that.

Instead... tell me darling... what IS the problem.. and give me a better theory

[Shaft50]

Maybe the issue is in not listening to women. It should be an 'us and them' mentality, but just navigating life and, sexually speaking, scoring with the compatible people. If you get rejected, maybe there was a good reason for it. She may have other issues at play that caused her to say no to one person and yes to someone else. The 'stud' may just be trying to distract himself from a failed relationship by scoring as many lays as he can, hoping to resurrect some semblance of self-esteem. Maybe it was for the best that you didn't get a chance with him or her. As people, sometimes we get so caught up with the 'now', that we don't want to look at the 'what ifs', the consequences. I do it myself and yeah, the act was fun and both parties seem to enjoy themselves, but what have I allowed into my life, because sometimes sex can be more than just a physical interaction. Just throwing out some concepts, @Tdieseler... I liked your points in your opinion and replies, too, @silverqueen

[silverqueen]

@Tdieseler Why ask questions to a woman if you're not going to listen to one? You say women do certain things a certain way, but you do these exact same things. It's quite funny because it sounds extremely hypocritical.

[Tdieseler]

@silverqueen hahah... good one. But still im here to learn. so... what AM i saying wrong. I generalize... but i find out that when women hear it... they look at it from their stand point only.
Some girl tried to come to the defense of when i told her that most women are cunts are just judge right off the bat... and she comes "no they don't"... and i asked her how many women she had approached. That shut her up.
Funny thing... i bitch about that... but I've rarely been rejected. happens to all of us.

@Shaft50 got it... good points too.

[sp33d]

You make it sound like I have to make it at least a 0.5 position job to have sex with women. News flash, boy, women want to fuck as much as we do. You come off as too skittish, hence your tough existence. Not to mention these ignorant analogies about working for every penny vs. inheriting millions in a trustfund as a way of comparing "studs" to "sluts". It's ridiculous.

Your research is poorly conducted, is all I'll say. If you think you have to jump through hoops and do EVERYTHING then be ready to do just that.

[Tdieseler]

Darling... i NEVER put my own personal experience in these things... but if i were to categorize myself, i'd probably be in the "Slut" zone. You are just saying shit i either know or against.

My research is poorly conducted... well then beat it... beat my analogies. I only speak in general.

[sp33d]

So you inherited millions or are you simply not thinking about what you are saying? A loudmouth, then? Seems, you don't even know what it means to "speak in general". Native speaker and all :(

[Tdieseler]

Thank you for your opinion :)

[narusasuyaoixoxo]

It was quite a fun read. You have a lot of emotion to your writing, and you got that part down and explaining something that may very well just be.

On the other hand, I do think guys should just raise their standards. It's stuff like that they make "dick" so cheap- it's basically free. Why would a woman want to buy such a generic product that they sell basically everywhere? Women choose to aim for quality because evolution, and I think we can learn something from that. Maybe, just maybe us guys aren't as "horny" as we are made to believe. Maybe the media and porn and tons of fapping just fucked our brains into believing we want this a lot more than we actually do, and hence why everyone ends up so unhappy in return.

[Tdieseler]

Call it emotion, I call it emphasis.
Im not gonna say you didn't lose me, because you did. I think you are trying to say part of what i said which was that guys should stop giving it out so free.
You say women aim for quality... that they sure do... back in the day, they fucked the strongest man, for protection, now they fuck the wealthiest, for security. They still do the same shit.
I know its not all women but its a fucking majority of them, they are just wired to gravitate to where they feel they will do better.. or be better. Thats why a lot of them end up in shitty relationships... because they are willing to put themselves in bad situations just to achieve something else.

Like those girls who would hook up with the "ganstas".. because he has a lot of money, but then is always scared and under the threat of death.. i mean... is that a life? but women do it. Stupid fucking choices really.

[JustAnotherGirlie]

Nah that’s not accurate per se. Women are choosy because 1. People judge us if we are “too easy” and 2. A good man usually equals a better life financially. Women don’t get in bad relationships because of their VERY VALID priorities, they find bad men because that’s all some of them know.
Women are individuals. And most of the women I know that make terrible choices in men typically for abused, have some sort of unresolved issues with their father/mother, got bullied. There’s some sort of psychological trauma there that keeps them attracted to men that wish them harm. That’s not even the majority of women though and these lost causes can’t be used as a model for “what’s wrong” with women.
Women understand that in 2017, you still need a man to add to your value. So he needs to make at least as much money as you, if not more. It’s the only way to survive at this point. And tbh I feel the same way

[Tdieseler]

@JustAnotherGirlie I call bullshit... so men aren't individuals? we are just props to increase female value? Ah i get it... female priorities are more important... omg... im gonna leave this take and begin my new series. "Diesel's Rant-isodes".

[JustAnotherGirlie]

Oh stop being so sanctimonious - Of course men are individuals. Every person has a standard for what they require - both men and women. If I’m being 100% honest, marriage is a business deal and men and women leverage certain things to get what they want period. Men want youthful beautiful women to procreate with and women exchange that for financial security. In 2017, women are financially independent so they don’t rely on financial security (as in, being taken care of) as much, since they also can provide. But it makes smart business sense to date/marry men within your income bracket. Assortative mating is practiced by both male and female genders.
My response about being individuals was specifically referencing your lack of understanding of women. Women who choose bad men or abusive men are NOT a suitable model for all women. They are individuals with psychological issues and you cannot extrapolate that dysfunction on the whole gender.

[Tdieseler]

@JustAnotherGirlie see... here's the thing about me... i don't go into all that deep shit. Trust me... been there. I was glad when i got out of that and saw the clear.
but wait... what did i just read here? "Men want youthful beautiful women to procreate with and women exchange that for financial security"
did you just agree with me that women ARE prostitutes? lol... in like your own subtle complicated offish sorta way...
I can see why i had to end my theory with "... people that are complicated"... geez girl.. you don't let up.
One thing i like about you is that you rarely (if ever) attack the dumb cunt (me) whose comment you are replying to. You stick to the point. Quite rare in women.

[JustAnotherGirlie]

You’re comparing women to sex workers? Seriously. That’s a poor comparison and faulty logic at best. Dating is a mutual exchange, one that feminism has definitely disrupted.
I don’t let up because I’d rather wear someone down logically than argue. You can tell in 1 comment if they’re a person worth talking to. Usually i don’t bother but hey, it’s a mental exercise

[Tdieseler]

@JustAnotherGirlie Gotta admit... you are wearing me down. I like to add little puns and jokes to make it interesting but you are just keeping it straight logical about a topic that isn't logical. Don't get me wrong... i admire the intelligence behind it... but this gender war is laughable.
I don't know if there will ever be a stalemate.

[narusasuyaoixoxo]

I can see why you may think I sidetracked a bit, but trust me, it was all what I meant.

Basically, when I mention stuff like "guys encouraged to jack off", is that society has been placing a heavier emphasis on everything sexual-related. Not saying that's a bad thing, but the consequences that followed are. For one, most guys start masturbating at the age of 10-13. The way this relates to our sexuality is that we are given a sort of drug that makes us persue that high more than we really need it (in this case, sex). Your brain becomes a lot more wired to this kind of stuff, and hence why most guys are that desperate.

I don't really feel like contraddicting you, as you put a piece of your heart into it. If anything, we all men could learn a thing or two off of that.

Lastly, this topic is the very opposite of a previous topic I read:

Why Promiscuity Is Killing Chivalry ↗

[MScifiwriter]

I would never call a woman a s.. t or a w... e, however both men and women are equally capable of abhorrent behavior. Just as both men and women are equally capable of being the most awesome and brilliant people in the world.

[Tdieseler]

i'd call em whatever the hell they are acting like at the moment. i don't give a shit about her feelings... cuz i know she doesn't give a shit about mine. You think women give a shit about your feelings? hahahaha...
they seem like they do... but dig deep... its only in relation to theirs. kinda like how in order to get a hefty parking ticket or tickets.. you get a parking permit...

i use your last line a lot... actually... i say both of what you mentioned... except at the end i add "until it comes to dealing with one another"... in that situation, i can comfortably say that BOTH sides are stupid as fuck.

[Metaanio]

I dislike studs as much as sluts. Promiscuity is not my thing. I'm not desperately needing sex either, and I like to know woman first.

But do what you want and let other do as they want.

[Tdieseler]

Hey, i totally agree with you, and have no disagreement with your Choice... im just talking about the double standard here for those that actually are promiscuous.

and just to be a cunt lol... I've found that its only those that can't get none that settle for all you just said. You trying to tell me that if tons of hot women just threw themselves at you, you wouldn't juggle all of them like circus batons? hahaha.. you know you would.
but women don't do that unless you are famous or rich or some other shit. so you gotta work for yours... so you get comfortable in where you are at. which is working for it... getting ".. to know a woman first".

Or maybe you are one of those stereotypical female-created guys... then in that case... its all your choice and should be respected up front, and laughed at out back.

[Metaanio]

If hot women would just come to offer sex, I will say no, if he comes to talk, or asks to date, then it is yes. As I said, I want to know them better before I jump into bed, even if they are asking.

Maybe I just think like a woman then.

[Tdieseler]

No... no... you think like a safe man... who has been conditioned by women.

[ShesAmerican]

Guys can never let us be lool, man stop being insecure and think everything we have should belong to you

[silverqueen]

lol 4 downvotes... love how its just dudes who dont like the truth

[ShesAmerican]

@silverqueen idgaf about them lol, let them be offended

[latinabutterfly96]

I know right... there are very few men who are actually smart enough to understand this. It's pretty simple. But they put their egos before their brains... if they have any brains that is.

[ShesAmerican]

@latinabutterfly96 the ones who are like that are the ones who are insecure and know that we deserve better shit

[Tdieseler]

@silverqueen ur a moron.

[Tdieseler]

I can let you be... i ALWAYS let a woman be. Its funny to watch. You ever watch a dog stick its face into an open fan? or a friend take a dive with a bungee cord that is Slightly too long? or take a ramp that is Slightly too high?

I Watch you women. The part that irritates me is how when you end up hurting yourself, rather than accept blame... you turn around and blame everyone else but the moron in question. YOU.

[ShesAmerican]

fuck off? LOOL

[Sowhoawolf]

i haven't had sex in months sometimes its gone on for years. i would have to pay for sex if i wanted it. males version would require much more work for physical intimacy. where as the lonely female version could call up the guy she friend zoned from whatever occasion and use him for sex. and i have seen it

i understand most women have a guy on the side they let fuck them while they call themselves "single".

and men well... i dont know where all the action is. im sure they can do the same thing... i dont go out trying to get laid, not that i haven't before. i just gave up on it because nothing ever happened its not easy meeting woman and hitting it off. so i wouldn't call myself a stud. im much to lazy to go around chasing women now, i would let it happen naturally. random coincidences* i usually ask out girls i am really feeling something for despite being shy.

point is* sex is nothing for woman and men would need to be used by types of women to get the sex he wants.

[Tdieseler]

i don't get the point of the labels... period.

[Sowhoawolf]

i felt bored

[Tdieseler]

Then keep paying for sex... nothing wrong with that.