My Reasons for Support Traditional Gender Roles and Wanting a More Traditional Relationship (Page 3)

[9mfeo]

Honey, I used to work in a copper and nickel mine. Don't give me that bullshit. I'll work if I damn well please.

[DaddyRollingStone]

Whatever you say, dear

[FlyingTurtle]

I would love to stay home and do the house chores and what not. Not have the stress of working. But I don't want to have kids.

[MaiNameIsSunshine]

Well I know some couples who have inter-changeable work day, one works one day at a certain time and so does the other one, the children are never alone and they spend time together as a couple for at least 5 hours (not including bed time)

[ihatethiswebsite]

To each their own but I would never want a traditional relationship

[dartmaul15]

Interesting take, and i do see your points.
Maybe you are right?
What about working 60% each (60% because insurance limits in usa. Can be lower too), and both helping out at home?

[DaddyRollingStone]

I don't know about that, I feel like if you put half of yourself into two things you'll get mediocre results from both since your focus is divided. I'm sure some people could do that well but I don't think I could.

My opinions are based off some studies I read and reading about people's first hand experiences.

[dartmaul15]

That's true. But I'm sure there are men out there wanting to help at home too, and women wanting to work. I fear by defining this as a standard we are excluding those people.

I am a fan of "each household decides", and believe there are benefits with all options. You just have to figure what works for you

[dartmaul15]

Also, please provide sources to said studies.
(yes, I'm going to conduct source criticism to test if they're reliable)

[DaddyRollingStone]

I'll try to put a list together then

[dartmaul15]

Thanks. Generally it's a really good idea to source your info. Because if not it can be made up bullshit "read in a survey"

[DaddyRollingStone]

Ultimately, these are my opinions but I do like to try to have some factual basis to them.
https://www.mercatornet.com/family_edge/view/12834
www.cosmopolitan.com/.../
www.reddit.com/.../
www.nation.co.ke/.../index.html

Best articles on manhood I have ever read, a huge influence on me. They are separate articles but this is a summary basically www.artofmanliness.com/.../
if you read nothing else, read this.

This isn't a final list, I will keep adding to it. It's been a long time since I read this stuff honestly.

[Janett21]

My future husband should help in the household too.
Also I don't know if he will work or not, but I will!

[Prettykangaroos]

I wouldn't mind gender roles if there wasn't the dominant/submissive thing that went with it.

[DaddyRollingStone]

Depends on the couple I think

[kaitlovesyou]

Honestly I love my kids and all but I'd go crazy as a stay at home mom

[MrBubbles]

God outlines several gender roles in the bible. :) Although it's certainly not sinful for a man to be a stay-at-home dad, or for a woman to work, God says what's best (on all things).

[Wintersmorning]

NO. My dad fills the "woman's job" and my mum fills the "mans job" so NO. STOP.

[rocksongwriter]

I wonder if how a person responds to this is determined the gender roles in their home when they grew up.

[rocksongwriter]

*is determined by the gender roles

[Pinkbeauty]

I support traditional gender roles and traditional reletionship and traditional marriage but I don't want kids and if I were do choirs like cleaning I would want a maid to clean

[Yeatts]

So basically you want to sit home and do nothing?

[Pinkbeauty]

basically I would go out and shop or go to a park and walk on a trail

[PeterPan11]

(I'm a girl using a guys account) I completely agree with you!

[apexalpha]

Good luck trying to convince modern day feminists with this

[blondfrog]

Yeah I guess you make a few good points although many women still find men attractive just by being dominant in the bed room

[Anonymous]

It's not the 50s anymore dude.

[SkyloreDay]

Exactly

[Noxifer626]

Put down your club, your caveman's showing.

[Mus_MI]

AMEN to this!

[Anonymous]

cool mytake, cool cool

[ThatGuy98]

Good take m8!

[warumnicht]

Why?

[ThatGuy98]

@warumnicht because I think this is the way it was, and is supposed to be, and I think this is how it works best.

[warumnicht]

Why is it supposed to be this way? And why does it work best?

[ThatGuy98]

@warumnicht The Bible says this is how it was meant to be, it is has also been the way things have been for a long time. I also think that this is what works best considering the qualities of women and men. Doesn't mean that women can't work or that men can't cook, but I think that there is something valuable in the traditional system.

[warumnicht]

Where does it say that?
and how does the length of time things have been happening determine if it's the right way to do it?

[ThatGuy98]

@warumnicht Well the man's task is to protect, provide and to love, and the woman's task is to support and love. (If I remember correctly) I just think that it has worked fine so well, I mean I know my childhood was awesome because my mom stayed home with me in my early years. Nothing wrong with a career woman though as long as she values her children and household as well. I just feel that as we are mixing the roles of women and men we are forgetting about the children and the value of a working and lasting family.

[warumnicht]

Where does it say that?

Mine was good as well and my mum worked certainly in the UK that's how the majority do it. The household is the responsibility of both parents.

[ThatGuy98]

@warumnicht The Bible says that men are supposed to be the head of the family, but that they should love and respect their wives as well. (Ephesians 5) And I was not saying that women shouldn't work or that they can't have a career, I just think that it is important that they remember that the family always is first priority.

[warumnicht]

Look at 1Corinthians 7 however. This is the same person, Paul writes both and all he days that is near that is that neither the wife nor husband own their own body but each other's. There is no mention of the wife submitting in Any form and rather that they're completely equal.

Even in Ephesians 5 look at verse 21, submit to one another. Again no mention of gender. I think Paul was simply writing it in that manner as it follows on , it flows as any of us try to do as we write and and preacher especially does. taking both books together I don't think Paul is saying either have a specific role and more it a just awkward wording from the context of earlier in the chapter.

[muspelhem_5]

Nice circular arguments there...