If she always make the decision you will always be on the low gains end. It's why relationship has discussions and arguments to get the right balance so neither side is above the other. The thing is that it's masculine to be a leader and being a follower is beta. And in this case your putting yourself below the female in rank. That is how it seen and that why you get the responses.
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The problem is one of perception only. There is nothing wrong with it if you feel it is right for you.
The underlying reason for it is that masculinity is dominant by nature, and femininity is submissive by nature. Masculinity is string and hard while femininity is soft and nurturing.
It is human nature to feel it is OK for women to display masculine traits, but it is not OK for men to display feminine traits. It just feels weak and pathetic. Think of it this way. How do you feel about a woman who wears a business suit and a tie? Conversely, how do you feel about a man who wears a dress?
There's nothing wrong with that. I'm the same way. But you should still be your own person, be strong in your own beliefs and opinions. And is long as your not allowing your to be manipulated or controlled there is nothing wrong at all with the woman taking the lead (kind of a turn on for me actually)
First off I respect you for this. 💯 but the thing is most individuals have there heart set on “sing” which means everyone values their opinions. And to have another’s overshadow yours truly starts to attack someone mentally.
But the men mainly are living based off of old school rules. “Men Lead”
But some just done want to feel like they’re not worthy due to the fact a lot of women ask for “security “ but doesn’t specify as to what kind
Its not about who the Alpha or more prominent in the relationship Bro the point is WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT A GIRL THAT THINKS IT'S NORMAL TO DOMINATE her lover. Dude that's a broken female and you will never experience real love or a real connection with her don't waste away years when the woman that will love you and want you both to work as a team as you enjoy each other and enjoy the life you have
supercutebut- So you're just flinging baseless, and moronic, accusations then? Maybe you should actually do some research before you comment upon a subject, that way you don't stick your foot so far into your mouth.
Besides, shouldn't it be democrats and Clinton supporters that have the majority of submissive husbands and boyfriends? Seeing as they have the majority of dominant women.
I really don't care about Democrats and Republicans. They both just want YOUR money, they don't give a shit about feminsim or racism or illegal immigrants or any of this, it's just to get votes and get rich while y'all fight each other for them. I'm not even American
Nadim171 Congadulations? American politics 101: Republicans and Democrats do differ on one key issue; Democrats want to further empower the government, Republicans want to further empower the people. There are A LOT of finer points, but these are the core issues.
@Savage_Wisdom Republicans want to further empower the people by restricting a woman's right to choose, by denying gay people the ability to marry, by making it easier for lunatics to murder people with weapons of war and to ignore science at the detriment to our environment. So basically you vote Republican because they support superstition.
Now I will empower smart people everywhere by blocking you from gaslighting us.
If that's what you prefer then you shouldn't be worried about what others think. I think people just expect men to take the dominant role in a relationship with.
My wife gets the last word 99% of the time. We've both been the main breadwinner, and we've both had our share of running the household. Most of the time it's a fairly even split. But, we (somehow) always manage to get things done no matter who is leading at the time.
Obedience as a means of showing honor to another is a beautiful thing in any relationship. Obedience that results from fear is indicative of abuse and has no legitimate place in any loving relationship.
Nothing, if both parties agree on that it's their choice. But I won't do this, I would rather stay single or commit suicide than be in such a relationship
I think a lot assume the wrong things, when one is submissive, willingly, and serves another. Some BDSM people focus on the roles, and submission, and what that entails. Does it make a man, less 'male' if he chooses a role, serving as the personal assistant to a female CEO, or some woman in a power position? Is he less of a 'man' washing her underthings, and ironing her clothing, preparing meals, or asisting her in an personal way she requires?
@bamesjond0069 I think you are wrong!! Many strong, powerful women, have a guy behind them, as their assistant doing myriad things, to make their life work!! I don't think it is in any way a dishonor, to him, or that he is less a man, if he serves her, willingly, and ensures that she excels!! Maybe that means washing her underthings, or ironing, or making meals, arranging meetings, flights, hotels, whatever is necessary!! He is supporting her, and without that guy, she crashes!! How is that not respectable, and honorable?
You never want to be a pushover male or female. I have personally seen it myself with people I know very personally even family. With the male being too obedient and the wife taking advantage of it. Eventually she becomes completely lazy around the house and never does anything. If there is a healthy balance in the relationship there is nothing wrong with it.
But your not out killing fuckers with a sword who are trying to storm the castle... women won't respect you for long if you are obedient... women want to be bossed around and told how shits gonna be from time to time... Im not saying be a dick all day but if your just her doormat that's how she's gonna treat you
I think it derives from the societal expectation that men should be dominant, but keep doing what you're doing! That's what feels right to you and it doesn't cause any problems at all, it shouldn't concern anyone else, so you do you :)
An obedient, submissive guy is a little like a gorgeous, plus sized woman -- most people say they're not interested in being in a relationship with them, but the vast majority of people secretly wish they could do so.
Obedience is for dogs and for God's. I am not a dog or a God. I would obey God, I would consider my wife first in any decision that I make if it's mine to make.
Some women are dominant and want a submissive man. Most of the time its the man thats dominant and thr woman submissive but people have different preferences and personalities
Literally takes a pounding and can handle all types of abuse, pushes a life out of it, can stretch and retain its shape afterward, etc. Sounds quite resilient and very tough to me.
@ImagineSketchy Sir, Nothing about having sex makes a vagina tough lol. We push out life because we have to. But there’s nothing tough about a woman’s vagina during child labor. And I promise you after having kids your vagina is at its weakest moments and forever will be
@skeetskeetskeet its a sexual deviation, thats like saying gay people dont know how to man up and have sex with a woman. Get a grip, also not talking about myself but i can understand that people are different from me
That's what even I used to think. Even dominant women when it comes to marriages want an assertive man, and an "obedient" man, isn't such a person. For a relationship, sure you can have anything. The only question is how long it will last.
@jayden888 "Even dominant women when it comes to marriages want an assertive man, and an "obedient" man, isn't such a person."
I beg to disagree. An assertive man is basically a euphemism for a dominant "alpha" man. Dominant women like myself prefer submissive, obedient males especially for marriage. Two people wanting to have their way is a recipe for disaster. A ship can only have 1 captain.
@babylips14 No it's not about dominance. If people are fighting for dominance they aren't in a loving relationship. But that's where this dialogue unfortunately goes.
I love dommes, and the whole "goddess culture" but even then right from my interactions with women, I've found that they want the guy to have it to lead (esp in a crisis). It just makes them feel more secure about the relationship. A man who "dominates" is not a loving man to begin with and shouldn't be in a relationship with the said woman.
Being a pussy doesn't mean gay... i can assure you there are plenty of gays that will strait kick some ass... a good majority of them are actually pretty tough fighters also... Id guess because they probably got picked on growing up for being gay... but regardless id think twice before I picked a fight with a gay dude
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If she always make the decision you will always be on the low gains end. It's why relationship has discussions and arguments to get the right balance so neither side is above the other. The thing is that it's masculine to be a leader and being a follower is beta. And in this case your putting yourself below the female in rank. That is how it seen and that why you get the responses.
The problem is one of perception only. There is nothing wrong with it if you feel it is right for you.
The underlying reason for it is that masculinity is dominant by nature, and femininity is submissive by nature. Masculinity is string and hard while femininity is soft and nurturing.
It is human nature to feel it is OK for women to display masculine traits, but it is not OK for men to display feminine traits. It just feels weak and pathetic. Think of it this way. How do you feel about a woman who wears a business suit and a tie? Conversely, how do you feel about a man who wears a dress?
There's nothing wrong with that. I'm the same way. But you should still be your own person, be strong in your own beliefs and opinions. And is long as your not allowing your to be manipulated or controlled there is nothing wrong at all with the woman taking the lead (kind of a turn on for me actually)
First off I respect you for this. 💯 but the thing is most individuals have there heart set on “sing” which means everyone values their opinions. And to have another’s overshadow yours truly starts to attack someone mentally.
But the men mainly are living based off of old school rules. “Men Lead”
But some just done want to feel like they’re not worthy due to the fact a lot of women ask for “security “ but doesn’t specify as to what kind
Its not about who the Alpha or more prominent in the relationship Bro the point is WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT A GIRL THAT THINKS IT'S NORMAL TO DOMINATE her lover. Dude that's a broken female and you will never experience real love or a real connection with her don't waste away years when the woman that will love you and want you both to work as a team as you enjoy each other and enjoy the life you have
If your wife turns you into a cuck, it's a problem. This phenomenon is quite common within the Trumptarded community.
How does being a sub atomaticly make you a Trump supporter?
@Savage_Wisdom Don't ask me. i don't support him. ask a Trumptard.
I'm not a trump supporter. Just because I support him over liberals doesn't mean I like him. I used to be one but he's a hypocrite and an idiot...
supercutebut- So you're just flinging baseless, and moronic, accusations then? Maybe you should actually do some research before you comment upon a subject, that way you don't stick your foot so far into your mouth.
Besides, shouldn't it be democrats and Clinton supporters that have the majority of submissive husbands and boyfriends? Seeing as they have the majority of dominant women.
I really don't care about Democrats and Republicans. They both just want YOUR money, they don't give a shit about feminsim or racism or illegal immigrants or any of this, it's just to get votes and get rich while y'all fight each other for them. I'm not even American
Nadim171 Congadulations?
American politics 101: Republicans and Democrats do differ on one key issue; Democrats want to further empower the government, Republicans want to further empower the people. There are A LOT of finer points, but these are the core issues.
@Savage_Wisdom Republicans want to further empower the people by restricting a woman's right to choose, by denying gay people the ability to marry, by making it easier for lunatics to murder people with weapons of war and to ignore science at the detriment to our environment. So basically you vote Republican because they support superstition.
Now I will empower smart people everywhere by blocking you from gaslighting us.
If you beleive Democrats really care about any of these things you're not as smart as I thought
So Republicans care about those things? All the Democrats I know choose science over superstition. Are you a gaslighter also?
Both are as bad. And democrats/Republicans and their supporters are two different things
Would think that submissive wankers are more likely to support the Communis... Democrats.
Lmao
If that's what you prefer then you shouldn't be worried about what others think. I think people just expect men to take the dominant role in a relationship with.
My wife gets the last word 99% of the time. We've both been the main breadwinner, and we've both had our share of running the household. Most of the time it's a fairly even split. But, we (somehow) always manage to get things done no matter who is leading at the time.
Obedience as a means of showing honor to another is a beautiful thing in any relationship. Obedience that results from fear is indicative of abuse and has no legitimate place in any loving relationship.
What's the problem with being an obedient GF/Wife, and you being the man?
HE is being an obedient gf/wife and SHE is being the the man.
Nothing, if both parties agree on that it's their choice. But I won't do this, I would rather stay single or commit suicide than be in such a relationship
I think a lot assume the wrong things, when one is submissive, willingly, and serves another. Some BDSM people focus on the roles, and submission, and what that entails.
Does it make a man, less 'male' if he chooses a role, serving as the personal assistant to a female CEO, or some woman in a power position?
Is he less of a 'man' washing her underthings, and ironing her clothing, preparing meals, or asisting her in an personal way she requires?
@JackSmy yes he would be less of a man. Men are leaders. If you aren't you fail.
@bamesjond0069 I think you are wrong!! Many strong, powerful women, have a guy behind them, as their assistant doing myriad things, to make their life work!! I don't think it is in any way a dishonor, to him, or that he is less a man, if he serves her, willingly, and ensures that she excels!! Maybe that means washing her underthings, or ironing, or making meals, arranging meetings, flights, hotels, whatever is necessary!! He is supporting her, and without that guy, she crashes!! How is that not respectable, and honorable?
Whatever floats your boat man, I think that's perfectly fine. As long as your girl is happy like that too.
You never want to be a pushover male or female. I have personally seen it myself with people I know very personally even family. With the male being too obedient and the wife taking advantage of it. Eventually she becomes completely lazy around the house and never does anything. If there is a healthy balance in the relationship there is nothing wrong with it.
But your not out killing fuckers with a sword who are trying to storm the castle... women won't respect you for long if you are obedient... women want to be bossed around and told how shits gonna be from time to time... Im not saying be a dick all day but if your just her doormat that's how she's gonna treat you
I think it derives from the societal expectation that men should be dominant, but keep doing what you're doing! That's what feels right to you and it doesn't cause any problems at all, it shouldn't concern anyone else, so you do you :)
An obedient, submissive guy is a little like a gorgeous, plus sized woman -- most people say they're not interested in being in a relationship with them, but the vast majority of people secretly wish they could do so.
Obedience is for dogs and for God's. I am not a dog or a God. I would obey God, I would consider my wife first in any decision that I make if it's mine to make.
But dogs are awesome
Because frankly, can *any* woman be trusted to that extent? I think not. Power corrupting and all that.
Especially when every search engine on this FLR crap seems to mention "cuckholding".
Think about it.
It’s your relationship as long as you find a girl into that sort of thing that’s fine. I personally do not want a guy that won’t speak up.
At 14 , you just looking for a mommy figure. You may grow out of it. You may not. But it’s you, No judgment
This is like the most unattractive thing ever in a man. What’s the point of being with a man if he’s gonna act like a pussy?
Pussy's are tough though.
Some women are dominant and want a submissive man. Most of the time its the man thats dominant and thr woman submissive but people have different preferences and personalities
Stop being so narrow minded
Exactly, if she doesn't want that kind of relationship it's fine but stop insulting others
Yeah they can take a beating... just like an old rug
@ImagineSketchy What the hell makes a pussy tough?
Literally takes a pounding and can handle all types of abuse, pushes a life out of it, can stretch and retain its shape afterward, etc. Sounds quite resilient and very tough to me.
@pulimuli I don’t care, it’s weird and unnatural. And any guy who decides he wants a dominant woman isn’t a man
You're free to believe what you wish. None of my concern.
@ImagineSketchy Sir, Nothing about having sex makes a vagina tough lol. We push out life because we have to. But there’s nothing tough about a woman’s vagina during child labor. And I promise you after having kids your vagina is at its weakest moments and forever will be
Its just how some people are, people have different sexualities.
Im with you Elizabethgee on this one... these kids dont have a clue what man up means let alone how to do it
@skeetskeetskeet its a sexual deviation, thats like saying gay people dont know how to man up and have sex with a woman. Get a grip, also not talking about myself but i can understand that people are different from me
@Pulimuli
That's what even I used to think. Even dominant women when it comes to marriages want an assertive man, and an "obedient" man, isn't such a person. For a relationship, sure you can have anything. The only question is how long it will last.
@jayden888 "Even dominant women when it comes to marriages want an assertive man, and an "obedient" man, isn't such a person."
I beg to disagree. An assertive man is basically a euphemism for a dominant "alpha" man. Dominant women like myself prefer submissive, obedient males especially for marriage. Two people wanting to have their way is a recipe for disaster. A ship can only have 1 captain.
@babylips14 exactly you can't have two dominant people in the same relationship
Usually the man is the more dominant one but sometimes its the other way around
Can I elaborate this? @Elizabethgee can you immigrate to saudia Arabia? It's exactly the way you want
@babylips14 No it's not about dominance. If people are fighting for dominance they aren't in a loving relationship. But that's where this dialogue unfortunately goes.
I love dommes, and the whole "goddess culture" but even then right from my interactions with women, I've found that they want the guy to have it to lead (esp in a crisis). It just makes them feel more secure about the relationship. A man who "dominates" is not a loving man to begin with and shouldn't be in a relationship with the said woman.
Being a pussy doesn't mean gay... i can assure you there are plenty of gays that will strait kick some ass... a good majority of them are actually pretty tough fighters also... Id guess because they probably got picked on growing up for being gay... but regardless id think twice before I picked a fight with a gay dude