Because our culture is degenerate, soon having drunken orgies in public will be normalized 😂. People want to have their cake and eat it too but in reality, open marriages are destructive physically and mentally. You become void of meaning and you don’t see any reason to live anymore.
In earlier societies, humans were ploygamous. Why it changed to monogamous as we evolved is anyone's guess. I'm not gonna claim to be an expert on the subject, but from what I've seen so far, monogamy was instilled on the instance of the church. A segregation tactic; a control tactic. If you look at the animal kingdom, we're the only species that has embraced monogamy. All others have survived and continue to do so without it. It is a mad made concept. It is widely accepted as "normal" now, however it wasn't always this way.
Monogamy and polygamy both seem to have natural, biological causes in human. Some people are more predisposed to one or the other.
Monogamy evolved in humans because we have such long periods of juvinility. And both a male and female role model who have a healthy romantic/sexual relationship with eachother seems to be good for children long term mating success.
Basically, having monogamous parents improve the odds of a child surviving and reproducing frequently.
But polygamy is also very useful, in that it maintains high genetic diversity and gives you're genes more chances to survive.
Can't remember exactly which part of the brain it was, but there are a couple variations of a part of the hyper thalamous that seem to predict whether or not someone will be pre-disposed to polygamy, or monogamy. I believe the distribution was something like 30/70 towards monogamous impulse.
@Torari There are some species that have some form of monogamy but not really any that are true monogamists. And that is true for humans too. If monogamy was "natural" as so many claim, we wouldn't masturbate to porn, we wouldn't cheat at an alarming rate, we wouldn't have unfaithful thoughts about others, we wouldn't have sex with more than one person, our entire lives. Even the concept of monogamy has changed recently altogether. If you've had sex with more than one person in your life you aren't monogamous... But now it has changed to something more like "one person at a time," which completely defies the concept.
And evolving we lived in bands, not in separate houses, everyone most likely took care of everyone, it wasn't a nuclear family. And the species most closely related to us are not monogamous, telling me a fish is monogamous doesn't really say much about humans philosophically or our evolution.
The 30/70 towards monogamy is fully believable but mostly because we are conditioned from birth to feel that way, and our culture is quite literally built around the idea, which mostly came from religion, and agriculture.
There are two kinds of monogamy. Even 3 technically.
There is sexual monogamy, romantic monogamy, and seasonal monogamy.
Romantic and seasonal monogamy are the most common. But there are still a good few dozen species that are sexually monogamous. Including but not limited to some species of crabs, fish, monkeys, and marsupials.
Monogamy in humans is a choice, one many fail at consistently, it is clearly not "natural" in us. It is a choice we make and some are more dedicated to that choice and others fail miserably.
Monogamous predisposition depends on the person. Some people are predisposed towards a more polygamous lifestyle (around 20% of the population) and the others are more predisposed towards monogamy.
The general consensus for why this is is a slight variation in a particulars gene I don't remember the name of.
Humans are not universally one way or the other. Human sexuality seems to be dualistic. Both types naturally exist. Which makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint.
You need people with loose legs to allow for optimal genetic diversity. But humans also need monogamous pairbonding sessions of a couple decade or so to serve the function of optimal childrearing.
You can read about the research behind my claims in "The chemistry between us" by Larry Young Ph. D
Also. As I stated, there are 3 different kinds of monogamy. Humans are often romantic monogamists. Which means that they only form a pair bond with one person, but will still have sex with other persons on occasion without romantic connection.
I say let people be themselves. If they find open relationships to be fair and fine then let them. I'm assuming they find it okay because both parties consent and can have the free will and judgement to go along with it, and it proves to the other person that they won't leave them and trust them enough with literally anyone. It's a trust bond. Although personally, it's a trust bond I don't want lol. I prefer 1 on 1 relationships, because why fuck other people and get freaky with them, when all you need is one person to do all your freaky stuff with, and other fun adventures with?
Nobodies "normalising" anything here because this is normal. Look at the animal kingdom do animals just mate with one female and that's it nope they go around with multiple females sometimes daily. Why? Because that is normal you can have sex with other people even if in another relationship if she consents despite being with someone that's their problem you can't say this new person has no role in their relationship and then go backwards and say that you're having sex with her you're invading the relationship it's just hypocritical.
Why do you call it a relationship if it is like this. I mean it like this (it is a pencil so you write with it but you chose to kill people with it and now you want to change the definition of a pencil ) I think we are listening to the wrong people and following the wrong people.
I agree. I think there are quite a lot of toxic things that are becoming normalised and accepted in relationships nowadays. Like open relationships, cheating, porn. None of this stuff sounds like a loving committed relationship to me.
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Its part of the agenda. They want us to normalize stuff like open relationships, promiscuitive behaviour, trans, etc...
Please have morals and stay close to God and protect yourself. I know this may sound stupid but be safe, there are so many bad influenced out there who enjoy destroying you. stay teuw to yourself and believe in God and the good.
Sounds like what Jada and Will have is just messed up. The advantages of an open relationship is that both have the freedom to be free and explore, but you still have your partner who there is more commitment to. If you look at divorce rates, you can see that humans are not inherently monogamous, so I don't understand why we try to be, but it's definitely not for everyone.
open relationships are just a way to degrade yourself in hopes of talking your partner into staying with you even though they don't really want you anymore. A desperate attempt to keep them when they're already gone. Not good.
Open relationships work for some, though not all. Such things need a lot more communication and trust than a closed relationship. I hadn’t read anything about the Will/Jada situation until a small dig right now and apparently they were having a break in their marriage. So it wasn’t an open relationship.
As far as open relationships being normalized, they’ve always been around in one capacity or another. It’s nothing really new.
No, have no idea. Maybe I don’t know enough about this topic, but I do know that I am a very monogamous person and that it would never work with me. However, I not going to judge those in that sort of arrangement. Different things work for different relationships.
Folly, wickedness, total irresponsibility, lack of judgement. I agree with your stance on open relationships; they are immoral, self-defeating, and tantamount to cheating.
It is normal for some people though and there’s nothing wrong with it. If it works for the couple and they’re open and honest about it with the people they’re doing whatever with and they’re okay with it then there should be no problems or discrimination.
@Oram52 "adults" lol. These people are only "adults" biologically. They're mind is brain-rot, riddled with degenerate propaganda. There will be no where to hide from natural selection betas.
It is a waste of time. I imagine if you're constantly looking for new lovers, you will eventually find someone you like better. I think people in these relationships just don't like to be alone or have infidelity problems to begin with.
It wasn't completely fine you could see on Will's face how hurt he still is so don't say it was completely fine. Also I wouldn't consider this an open relationship I remember them saying multiple times we were done with each other and we never thought we would get back together. As per what I understood they split for a while, Jada fucked August, Will knew about it and then they got back together, that's not an open relationship.
Open relationships are maybe.. interesting to someone who wants someone there always. Like a security. I don't understand it myself.
If they want that and are open about it that's fine. I've rejected the few opportunities and maybe they find people into it. I won't stop them if thats what they seek. Just stay open and upfront about it else get the judge 🔨
Being single and being in an open relationship is different in certain ways. If that's what a couple wants to do, let them. Whatever keeps their clock ticking. It's none of business what other couples choose to do with their relationship, as long as it's what they want or they're happy it doesn't matter to me. Actually doesn't matter to me anyways.
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Because our culture is degenerate, soon having drunken orgies in public will be normalized 😂. People want to have their cake and eat it too but in reality, open marriages are destructive physically and mentally. You become void of meaning and you don’t see any reason to live anymore.
In earlier societies, humans were ploygamous. Why it changed to monogamous as we evolved is anyone's guess. I'm not gonna claim to be an expert on the subject, but from what I've seen so far, monogamy was instilled on the instance of the church. A segregation tactic; a control tactic. If you look at the animal kingdom, we're the only species that has embraced monogamy. All others have survived and continue to do so without it. It is a mad made concept. It is widely accepted as "normal" now, however it wasn't always this way.
Monogamy and polygamy both seem to have natural, biological causes in human. Some people are more predisposed to one or the other.
Monogamy evolved in humans because we have such long periods of juvinility. And both a male and female role model who have a healthy romantic/sexual relationship with eachother seems to be good for children long term mating success.
Basically, having monogamous parents improve the odds of a child surviving and reproducing frequently.
But polygamy is also very useful, in that it maintains high genetic diversity and gives you're genes more chances to survive.
Can't remember exactly which part of the brain it was, but there are a couple variations of a part of the hyper thalamous that seem to predict whether or not someone will be pre-disposed to polygamy, or monogamy. I believe the distribution was something like 30/70 towards monogamous impulse.
There are dozens of other species that are monogamous. We're far from the only species that display monogamous behavior.
@Torari There are some species that have some form of monogamy but not really any that are true monogamists. And that is true for humans too. If monogamy was "natural" as so many claim, we wouldn't masturbate to porn, we wouldn't cheat at an alarming rate, we wouldn't have unfaithful thoughts about others, we wouldn't have sex with more than one person, our entire lives. Even the concept of monogamy has changed recently altogether. If you've had sex with more than one person in your life you aren't monogamous... But now it has changed to something more like "one person at a time," which completely defies the concept.
And evolving we lived in bands, not in separate houses, everyone most likely took care of everyone, it wasn't a nuclear family. And the species most closely related to us are not monogamous, telling me a fish is monogamous doesn't really say much about humans philosophically or our evolution.
The 30/70 towards monogamy is fully believable but mostly because we are conditioned from birth to feel that way, and our culture is quite literally built around the idea, which mostly came from religion, and agriculture.
There are two kinds of monogamy. Even 3 technically.
There is sexual monogamy, romantic monogamy, and seasonal monogamy.
Romantic and seasonal monogamy are the most common. But there are still a good few dozen species that are sexually monogamous. Including but not limited to some species of crabs, fish, monkeys, and marsupials.
@Torari Not humans though
Monogamy in humans is a choice, one many fail at consistently, it is clearly not "natural" in us. It is a choice we make and some are more dedicated to that choice and others fail miserably.
Women's biggest fantasy is to be gang banged, men's is a threesome. That alone should be enough evidence to know we aren't monogamous deep down lmao
Monogamous predisposition depends on the person. Some people are predisposed towards a more polygamous lifestyle (around 20% of the population) and the others are more predisposed towards monogamy.
The general consensus for why this is is a slight variation in a particulars gene I don't remember the name of.
Humans are not universally one way or the other. Human sexuality seems to be dualistic. Both types naturally exist. Which makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint.
You need people with loose legs to allow for optimal genetic diversity. But humans also need monogamous pairbonding sessions of a couple decade or so to serve the function of optimal childrearing.
You can read about the research behind my claims in "The chemistry between us" by Larry Young Ph. D
Also. As I stated, there are 3 different kinds of monogamy. Humans are often romantic monogamists. Which means that they only form a pair bond with one person, but will still have sex with other persons on occasion without romantic connection.
I say let people be themselves. If they find open relationships to be fair and fine then let them. I'm assuming they find it okay because both parties consent and can have the free will and judgement to go along with it, and it proves to the other person that they won't leave them and trust them enough with literally anyone. It's a trust bond. Although personally, it's a trust bond I don't want lol. I prefer 1 on 1 relationships, because why fuck other people and get freaky with them, when all you need is one person to do all your freaky stuff with, and other fun adventures with?
Nobodies "normalising" anything here because this is normal. Look at the animal kingdom do animals just mate with one female and that's it nope they go around with multiple females sometimes daily. Why? Because that is normal you can have sex with other people even if in another relationship if she consents despite being with someone that's their problem you can't say this new person has no role in their relationship and then go backwards and say that you're having sex with her you're invading the relationship it's just hypocritical.
Why do you call it a relationship if it is like this. I mean it like this (it is a pencil so you write with it but you chose to kill people with it and now you want to change the definition of a pencil ) I think we are listening to the wrong people and following the wrong people.
I agree. I think there are quite a lot of toxic things that are becoming normalised and accepted in relationships nowadays. Like open relationships, cheating, porn. None of this stuff sounds like a loving committed relationship to me.
Its part of the agenda. They want us to normalize stuff like open relationships, promiscuitive behaviour, trans, etc...
Please have morals and stay close to God and protect yourself. I know this may sound stupid but be safe, there are so many bad influenced out there who enjoy destroying you.
stay teuw to yourself and believe in God and the good.
Sounds like what Jada and Will have is just messed up. The advantages of an open relationship is that both have the freedom to be free and explore, but you still have your partner who there is more commitment to. If you look at divorce rates, you can see that humans are not inherently monogamous, so I don't understand why we try to be, but it's definitely not for everyone.
open relationships are just a way to degrade yourself in hopes of talking your partner into staying with you even though they don't really want you anymore. A desperate attempt to keep them when they're already gone. Not good.
Open relationships work for some, though not all. Such things need a lot more communication and trust than a closed relationship. I hadn’t read anything about the Will/Jada situation until a small dig right now and apparently they were having a break in their marriage. So it wasn’t an open relationship.
As far as open relationships being normalized, they’ve always been around in one capacity or another. It’s nothing really new.
No, have no idea. Maybe I don’t know enough about this topic, but I do know that I am a very monogamous person and that it would never work with me. However, I not going to judge those in that sort of arrangement. Different things work for different relationships.
Folly, wickedness, total irresponsibility, lack of judgement. I agree with your stance on open relationships; they are immoral, self-defeating, and tantamount to cheating.
It is normal for some people though and there’s nothing wrong with it. If it works for the couple and they’re open and honest about it with the people they’re doing whatever with and they’re okay with it then there should be no problems or discrimination.
One day people will be trying to normalize pedophilia.. oh wait that day is already here. *cough* NAMBLA *cough*
@Mossberg500 *CONSENT* - Kids can't give consent adults can.
@Oram52 "adults" lol. These people are only "adults" biologically. They're mind is brain-rot, riddled with degenerate propaganda. There will be no where to hide from natural selection betas.
@Mossberg500 Regardless two have no correlation. No one is asking you to agree to any agenda. You do you.
@Oram52 Np I have an agenda of my own. Which will certainly make degenerates afraid again.
Open relationship can be normal if everyone is on the same page from the beginning.
What happens in people's bedroom is up to them unless they break the law.
It is a waste of time. I imagine if you're constantly looking for new lovers, you will eventually find someone you like better.
I think people in these relationships just don't like to be alone or have infidelity problems to begin with.
It wasn't completely fine you could see on Will's face how hurt he still is so don't say it was completely fine. Also I wouldn't consider this an open relationship I remember them saying multiple times we were done with each other and we never thought we would get back together. As per what I understood they split for a while, Jada fucked August, Will knew about it and then they got back together, that's not an open relationship.
Open relationships are maybe.. interesting to someone who wants someone there always. Like a security. I don't understand it myself.
If they want that and are open about it that's fine. I've rejected the few opportunities and maybe they find people into it. I won't stop them if thats what they seek. Just stay open and upfront about it else get the judge 🔨
I agree with you on this. I wouldn't want an open relationship.
Being single and being in an open relationship is different in certain ways.
If that's what a couple wants to do, let them. Whatever keeps their clock ticking.
It's none of business what other couples choose to do with their relationship, as long as it's what they want or they're happy it doesn't matter to me. Actually doesn't matter to me anyways.
People aren't mature enough for commitment but they need emotional connections like children. its crazy.