Can a man make a woman happy without money?

[Anonymous]

Just a question and explan in details why you think the way you do. I think a men can make a women happy without money but it depends on the girl if she values money or love. Not saying women to to settle for broke men but he gotta at least have a job, a car and be in school. I see women pass on good men becuase he didn't make enough money but as soon as he makes it these very same women now wanna be in his dms. Am not a bitter men I always belive in a men should always pay for everything but thanks to my current girlfriend I. Belive in going 50-50 not into women who dont got their own.

[aWes0MeNeSs]

Absolutely. Like you said, it depends on the woman's values, though. But, any woman who is only interested in a man's money is not a good choice, most likely will not be completely satisfied (it is very common for cheating to happen in relationships like these), and will likely be gone once either the money runs out or she finds another guy who can take care of her, whom she likes better.

I do think that there's a difference in wanting a guy to be self-sufficient and have a job and a car, and expecting him to be well off and having her main priority be how much money he makes. It's reasonable to not want to be in a relationship with someone who is financially irresponsible or unable to hold down a job (especially when looking for a serious relationship, as your partner's financial irresponsibility or inability to keep a job will affect you as well if you eventually live and pay bills together and/or share money or property) or expects to be taken care of like a child when they are fully capable of doing their fair share. If I were dating, I would not expect a man to want to provide for me without me pulling my own weight, either. However, someone primarily focused on someone with money to "take care of them" so they don't have to work as hard and get to have a more expensive lifestyle is obviously a red flag.

If you ask me, the kind of person you will be more likely to have a mutually loving and lasting relationship with will be much more concerned about what kind of a person you are and how well you two connect than how well off you are, or what kind of fancy possessions you have.

[Tiffany_Taylor_Made]

Sure, men can make women happy without money because things that could make a person happy are not always obtained by spending money. Happiness can obtained by engaging in certain hobbies, having good sex, spending time together, etc. However, relationships where men lack money are not always good for women. Men that are short on money are more likely to be moochers that live off their women. As a result, they require women to take care of them similar to how mothers take care of their young sons. Most women that aren't completely desperate would not be happy with taking care of another grown man that should be capable of taking care of himself. Also, men that are struggling financially are more likely to struggle raising a family. Raising a family costs a lot of money and families might struggle to get what they need. Having a job, car, and being in school isn't enough because he could be working a minimum wage job with limited hours, have an old raggedy car that is unreliable for transportation, and students tend to struggle financially until they actually start their careers. Thus, the goal of any woman should be to accept a good man that is financially stable. I get that money isn't everything, but it's still very important in relationships. I also don't believe in going 50/50 either, especially during early dates. I believe that adults, regardless of their gender, should support themselves separately and provide of their kids if they have them.

[Anonymous]

I’ve seen attractive women fall in love with complete deadbeats.

The thing is the deadbeat knows how to press her buttons emotionally. He knows exactly what to say and behave to keep her in love with him.

As a relatively successful guy this always pissed me off. I’m 100% independent, self made. I ran my own company a few years ago. I currently make a 6 digit income, own real
estate, have an interesting past and I’m well traveled.

BUT the only time I ever “charmed” a woman when I was went through a Peter Pan phase when I was scraping by. My then 25 yr old girlfriend was making more money than me (at 32). I wasn’t a bum but I was living paycheck to paycheck because I was chasing a very consuming hobby. It bothered me that I didn’t have more money. Bothered me much more than it bothered her. It bothered me to the point I self sabotaged the relationship.

Now I’m more settled and have a good career I’m “boring”. The last 3 years have been the worst dating experience of my entire life.

[mindNsoul]

That's awfully strange! I'm not assuming that you have a bad character or anything but why would women not want to be with you? just doesn't make sense based on what you wrote.

[Opinion Owner]

@mindNsoul funny way back in college I was friends (zoned) with a girl and I flat out asked her this one time. She had a huge crush on me when we first met (she was a bit weird). I wasn’t sure and didn’t make a move on it. She got a boyfriend but I was still flirty around her (didn’t know better being 21)

Anyway I one day asked her why I was single. First she tried to be nice about like “oh you are goal oriented, athletic but your so busy blah blah”. I told her not to sugarcoat it. She then said “your weird. Women don’t understand you and it turns them off. I understand you but I can see why other women don’t like that.”’

I do have a complicated personality. I am very driven when I have goals but I had a very unhappy childhood. I had severe undiagnosed ADHD back then. People didn’t treat me well at all because of it among other things (also had the great sin of being part redhead)

[Nawlins34]

Yes, especially if that's what she's mainly concerned about. It's either that or she likes what he currently possesses and should two separate

she'll leave with the latter.

This really comes down to what that woman values, ya know?

If she's focused on interactions, the experiences, the memories, that will lean towards the guy. She values that.

Guys have to be careful though, because a guy can "humor" a woman who isn't about the for the time being, and he thinks it's genuine appreciation until a guy offering the same comes by with higher net value.

What does the woman value is the question?

[ragequeen]

If he pulls my hair and bends me over he can make me happy for years

[Levin]

<3 hair pulling.

[Asker]

Omg omg

[jennifer_bloom]

If I can survive and our future children can survive and his family can survive without his money than his income does not matter - I believe that unless you have a solid sense of morality grounded in God, that having high amounts of money will corrupt you - every non religious rich person in my family was corrupted by the money they received - I would rather be poor and die loved by God than be wealthy and go to hell

[PupinTheTurd]

Yep, people tend to make money there god nowadays.
Money is power and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[havingfun101]

😂 only a true fool would believe you.

[jerseygal623]

Yes. I’m a rather boring individual. The men I’ve dated who made significantly more money than me always seemed to want to party and do things that involved spending ridiculous (to me, anyway) amounts of money all the time. It’s hard to explain the pressure I felt that came with that. It wasn’t so much I felt inadequate—I mean, they were with me, after all—but more that the introvert in me was DYING from all the fast-paced, constant, and daily activity. The other thing these men seemed to lack is the ability to slow down and spend one-on-one quality time with me. It was weird. I don’t think all men who are wealthy are like this—I just happened to attract this certain type of man for a while which did not at all work for my personality. Very nice people, though, all the same.

My now-husband doesn’t make a ton, but he makes enough to take care of us. We share expenses but he’s more of a traditionalist and covers most things. However, I will say that’s his voluntary decision and I always spoil him as much as possible and contribute every way I can. I really like this more because it feels like we’re a powerhouse team.

What I value most from him though, and what he gives me most compared to any man before him is the amount of personal time and attention he gives me. He pampers me without the need for spending the $$, which I’m all about. It means the most to me when he helps with house chores, we goof around while buying groceries together, and when we compete against each other when we play a board game, puzzle, or video game. It’s the lighthearted simple atmosphere I’ve always been looking for and boy am I glad I found it.

[LittleTurtleDuck]

I have my own job and bankaccount so therefore I have my own money:
With a partner to live with I'd have a joined account where we would go 50-50 on rent/utility/food. Whatever we both individualy have left (after puting our share on the joint account) is for each of us to spend as we see fit.

So I don't need the money from someone else and if my partner has nothing left after putting in his share I'll gladly buy him some things he'd like. I'm not stingy and if I can make them happy and they make me happy it's good.

[havingfun101]

'A study from University of Chicago reveals that when the wife makes more than her spouse, divorce rates rise 50 percent. ... A drastic rise in divorce rates among couples where the female is the breadwinner could spawn from the fact that more woman are graduating college than men.'
https://www. mybanktracker. com/news/female-breadwinner-lead-divorce#:~:text=A%20study%20from%20University%20of, divorce%20rates%20rise%2050%20percent.&text=A%20drastic%20rise%20in%20divorce, are%20graduating%20college%20than%20men.

[Petra150]

I'd think it's a hard judgment of us women in general. I myself can tell that my hubby worked as an unskilled operator in a company when I met him, I had a good job as an real estate agents , and I gave up my job 2,5 year's ago to follow him to a job in Germany where we live now, he still hasn't got a leader job, but earn normal wage and I got a job like him. I simply loved him for the grey father and lover he were and for sure still is 100% every day

[CupcakeKiller]

I never really understood this. I earn more than my partner, we were excited WE would have more money and could work toward some financial goals WE have. We both work full time and are very comfortable with our combined income. Having some kind of job/goal is important at this stage in my life but the number isn't the be all end all.

[memer2020]

quick question what is your partners race?

[CupcakeKiller]

@memer2020 why?

[memer2020]

i need to get a mental image , also it might explain why he's making less money than you

[CupcakeKiller]

@memer2020 I don't understand why you need that. We are both white.

[memer2020]

racism exist you know black people with equal qualifications are left out in favor of white people

[CupcakeKiller]

@memer2020 yes I am well aware. We are not in the same industry though.

[memer2020]

what industry do you work at?

[CupcakeKiller]

@memer2020 I am a lawyer.

[Paul09]

Thank you. Need more women like you.

[hahahmm]

For casual relationships, yes. For serious relationships, no. Not in a society where resources have cash value.


Female nature is to get a guy for serious who can raise her up. When you see a woman in serious with a guy who is lower status it’s because that’s the best she could get. Not because that’s what she wanted.

[TruthBringer]

BINGO! Hit the nail right on the head!

[KungFuDoge]

Those women who hit on rich guys are gold diggers, not actual genuine women, yes money is useful, it can help you live a happy life, but there are women who prfer genuine, kind and loving guys over rich assholes.

[Asker]

I got one of them now

[Avicenna]

Well, it depends on the overall situation and expectations. There are women who care more about the companionship than how much money the guy has, but, realistically, a guy will usually be constantly denigrated by her family and friends if he's broke. It also depends on how old he is and other factors.

[scottyduwop]

Both yes and no. Money provides a certain amount of comfort in life, it is nice to not have to worry about how bills are going to be paid and how groceries are going to be gotten. Its important to consider many people would for go a certain amount of money if it means having a really positive, loving relationship with their partner.

[RingOfFire]

It's funny. There is definitely a difference between views towards your partner's money situation between men and women.

I couldn't care less how much money a woman has. But women, especially those who want to start a family, want a man who can provide for her and the children at least while the kids are growing up. It's fascinating to me because it's a thought that normally would never cross my mind.

I think it's kind of sexy when they care about your money for this reason. It's sort of instinctual and raw.

[GlitterFairy16]

Yes of course, love doesn't cost a thing. It's the effort that matters. How much does a picnic in the park cost or a dinner and movie at home. Creativity is whats needed not money. My dad worked for his dad and sometimes didn't even get paid and my mum came from a wealthy family and he managed to win her over. You should never go into a relationship based on money.

[Unit1]

"How much does a picnic in the park cost or a dinner and movie at home."

Picnic - assuming it brings wet wipes, sandwiches, juice/water, fruits and snacks. Go to the supermarket, get those groceries and you'll see the receipt will say something like $20 maybe.

Dinner and movie at home - Again, go to the grocery store to pick up ingredients for say spaghetti bolognaise (or order pizza to the house), pick up some red wine (if you're into that), seedless grapes, chocolate and popcorn/nachos. It may easily reach $25.

You see it's not that easy. Even these simple and creative things cost money.

[PupinTheTurd]

@Unit1 serious question, is that a lot of money to you?

I'm pretty sure most women want men that have money, whether they want to admit it or not but if you can't afford the bare minimum that's not really going to be a good sign because the man is supposed to be the provider and if can't even provide for himself then why would a woman choose that man?

[GlitterFairy16]

Whatever i give up i can't say anything without you lot trying to prove me wrong

[GlitterFairy16]

Unless he's literally a homeless man. Im sure he can afford to make a simple meal or how the hell would he be able to service. If he's got a job, id be concerned with what he'd had been spending his money on to not even be able to buy badic foods. I don't know how much things cost in the US compared to the UK but im pretty sure the UK is the more expensive country out of the two and unless your shopping at harrods for food. It probably cost about £5-£8 to make spaghetti bolognaise or to make a sandwich for two people. If you can't even afford £5 on food, id genuinely be concerned what what you were doing with your money.

And after the first date most woman are pretty happy paying towards the date too

[GlitterFairy16]

To be fair even the homeless men in my town still some how manage to get women too and they pretty much have nothing. Just walk around the city after 10 and you'll more than likely find one of them with their trousers down.

[Unit1]

@PupinTheTurd
A man is not supposed to be anything other than what he wants to be. He won't conform what others tell what a man is supposed to be.

It's not a lot of money to me. But between 0-22 years I would not have been able to afford $20 for anything. And between 0-20 years literally everybody was "richer" than the penniless me - even those, who were in debts.

[Unit1]

I don't have a problem with spending money on food and all that. Hell I even go to the beaches out of town by myself (since nobody else wants to) and use the cab. I can also set up a makeshift environment in my base for a massage with lotions and oils for hours of euphoric experience.

But to say, that creative dates can be penniless is just... let's just say ignorant.

[GlitterFairy16]

@Unit1 yeah okay im so ignorant okay buy. How I've said that does that mean you lot will all stop commenting on everything thing i write to try and prove me wrong and make me out to be a bad person towards men because if not my last question was me asking how my drawing of a duck was and im literally just waiting for someone to tell me why what I've done is hurtful to men and that im ignorant feminist bitch, who knows nothing and get in report for gag or get there friends to send me a hate.

[GlitterFairy16]

Bye*

[Unit1]

Mind you, that was NOT a personal attack.

[GlitterFairy16]

@Unit1 well lately I've been getting witch hunted on this site just for saying anything that upsets or hurts a man feels and I've even had most my questions reported and I've been put under investigation from gag just because i disagreed with a man on here. So wasn't sure if hed sent another one of his friends or hed made another fake account again to tell me im wrong and then report me again

[Unit1]

I've been here for over 5 years, so I'm not one of those harassers.

And usually if I say something even harmless, others find ways to find it offensive anyway and then they block me 😂

[PupinTheTurd]

How do you feel about walks around the lake as a date?

As far as I'm aware that doesn't cost a penny.
And before someone tries to counter me and says something like "you have to drive there and that cost money" oh no know you don't, you can just walk there. Lol

[Unit1]

@PupinTheTurd Depends on the distance of the lake 😁

[Warmapplecrumble]

I think it's the resources not money women care about.

I need food otherwise I will look like a witch 😂 and shelter, the rest is not necessary.

[Asker]

Think it depends on the person. I seen women refuse to date good men who had the resources becuase their didn't make enough $$$. 😂😂 that would be funny as fuck to see my girlfriend looks like a witch without coffee in her system.
I've dated 4 girls in my life.. my current girlfriend is the only one who had a job and her own shit when we dated.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Really what's use of money when you have all the resources 🤣😂 maybe security?

I don't drink coffee but I need my meat and fat instead of that. Probably look really bad without it then die after few days 😳.

I prefer women staying at home and being housewife. I think it's better to work for one man, I'd only go work in desperation or if my husband employs me... I'm tired of sexual harassment at work and jealous witch women.

[Asker]

If a man only got like 300-500$ left after paying all his bills n food shopping do u still want him or a men that has 200-300$ left after paying Bill's. Yea for security where I live rent for a 1 bedroom is 1100-1800$ a month rent for a 2 bedroom is 1500-2300$ a month nyc cost out the ass. Some women like money to shop or to go out 247 so like men who can give them that kind of life story. I known girls who got boyfriend who go on vacation every other week. I can see that sexually harassment can be... yea I dont think I got a word for sexually harassment its more then annoying it's something no one should have to deal with it. Jealous women are annoying but hard to run away from my girlfriend job is shit becuase of that very reason

[Warmapplecrumble]

That's really bad.

I live under our means so we have that little bit incase of emergency. I do ask for things like clothes, food 😂.

I have never asked my husband for holidays etc. I don't want to burden him. I'm just happy he comes home 🙂🙂🙂🙂

[Warmapplecrumble]

But my mum and grandma and all women in my family are like this. So it's really weird when I see guys spend so much on women. I actually get jealous sometimes and think maybe I ask for too little 😂😂😂😂 omg they are so bad they make me want to do this rubbish.

[Asker]

Awww cute

[Warmapplecrumble]

Thanks 🙂

[Anonymous]

All women here are lying or trying to brag about their mindset. But in reality all of them want money. If you're not rich or at least financially stable they will leave you. I have seen this in the real world, remember Jorden Belfort went broke. His wife left him and also took his daughter.

Anybody can say anything on online forums BC all they need is fingers to type. But things are different in practical world dude!

Mark zuckerberg - programming is easy.

Bill gates - money doesn't matter.

Iam somerhaldar - looks don't matter.

[Dinklex3]

Of course?
I've been happy with plenty of men and their money never affected me.

[Asker]

Like who

[Dinklex3]

What do you mean "like who?"
?
I'm single. The only people who have been financially responsible for me were myself and my parents. So naturally no man's money has ever affected me.

[Asker]

O. i see

[Reaperbot666]

yes and no. depends on level of income your talking about. so long as he can support himself and their family for the most part on his own. even if she might need to chip in a bit here and there. since in modern times both sides are able to work and earn their own income at least to some degree. in order to help support their family unit.

[modelUN242]

Depends, feminism has made it more difficult for men to meet the standards of women, who want a handsome and a man with a good career. Women with good careers can't settle for men who make less than them and they have a harder time in the dating market. Vice versa as well, men don't really want to be with women who make more than them.

[kaylaS91]

of course.
I want my fiance to have a good job not necessarily for the financial aspect (as I can make-do on my own just fine) but because it would show that he's reliable, hard-working, and effective at completing tasks reasonably well. Which are all good traits I think everyone, both men and women, should seek out in a partner.

[PetrovaFire92]

Money isn't everything. I rather have my own money.. then him trying to make me happy with his own money. I rather have his love ♥️. More then anything else.