Do You Think Female WGTOW And Male MGTOW Are The Future Of Mankind?

[Amouranth_QT]

Do you believe this? Wgtow and Mgtow (Men and women going their own way)

Many people think that evolution is a direct path which is wrong. Evolution of mankind is chaos and luck. At the moment MGTOW for both men and women is appearing to be more and more something humans are becoming.

Men and women rather stay single or be friends these days. Sex is becoming an overrated joke. People are finding other ways of feeling comfort instead of seeking out other humans in the flesh.

With life becoming more complex people becoming tired with the standard system of relationships they no longer benefit from. Just trying to find a good date is tiresome for many. far too many people have wasted their lives seeking relationships and the Disney channel idea of love.

[Qdbrown]

MGTOW is a philosophy that wakes men up on how they're being used, and have been since the beginning as simply as a resource. They are the ones who take great pride getting the job that gets the mortgage on their home, even if both contribute to the payments. He takes protecting and caring for his family very seriously. Not all men, but most. And then they find out she found a better guy, and then he kicked to the curb, gutted financially by an antiquated family court and kept on the hook to pay for it all while he has to find meager living conditions, sometimes back at home with his parents or living in his car. This is where MGTOW comes in, to educate men about the real dangers of modern marriage.

I am not going to make excuses that some men are toxic, and crappy people who deserve divorce. But there are also many hardworking, dedicated husbands and daddies that kicked to the curb because his wife found a more exciting guy on Tinder.

Now over the years, the more mean-spirited guys who can't find women who would even date them, that are your real incels have taken over the MGTOW space, making some content creators sounds mad misogynist who want to hurt women. This is not healthy, and many real MGTOW content producers to change their titles to use everything but the term MGTOW, because MGTOW is now called a hate group.

So MGTOW came about because of the latest form of toxic feminism. I am not talking about equality for women and or worse keeping them barefoot and in the kitchen. The modern form of feminism have become anti-man in everyway. Men can't operate in a world where anything they do is perceived as toxic masculinity, and to date, no one has been able to define what that is, short of finding negative qualities that not all men suffer from.

And MGTOW effect is a world-wide issue. It's not some trend to corrupt men into toxic traits. And now that governments around the world see marriage rates falling and birth rates falling. This scares government because this means less tax revenue in the near future and why some countries are stealing people from other countries from immigrant crisis in Europe a few years ago, and now all the people from South America to get them into the US as soon as possible because we keep losing people and the future looks scary.

And MGTOW is not causing all of this. It's reactions from all kinds of issues in society. The Internet made it possible for older men to educate younger men how to navigate or avoid marriage. Just as feminism is being exploded around the world and most is being turnes into politics, which right now will be incredible if we are not in a civil war before this is all over with.

People are just mad right now.

[whirled_up_girl]

@Qdbrown I like your assessment about the idealology, I'll admit I don't know enough about it to have a well informed opinion but I feel like you helped clear up some of the inaccuracuries about the ideology that have sometime been perpetuated.

[OlderAndWiser]

MGTOW? I call them MFTOCEM (Men Fixin' Their Own Coffee Every Morning.)

I think MGTOW consists primarily of a small group of butthurt guys who had a bad experience and who want to blame women rather than examine themselves to determine whether they have contributed to their own failures. By banding together and whistling in the dark in unison, these guys find some validation for their butthurt feelings. Doesn't bother me because it just reduces the competition!

Most people lead quiet, normal lives and they don't vocalize about every time they stub their toe. But the MGTOW can be quite vocal, so their numbers and srength tend to get overestimated.

[whirled_up_girl]

This is always one of those questions that I never quite know how to answer or even if I should answer because I'm not sure I know enough about the philosophy to really understand what it actually means. I do think it means something different for men than women and possible because of the different dynamics each gender experiences in serious relationships. I know that for a while I felt like a women going my own way and I was just going to focus on myself and on being the best version of myself and not worry about dating. I'll admit, this can get very lonely but I honestly don't think of myself as wanting to get married, it's a long story that I'm not going to get into but that doesn't mean I want to be single necessarily. I would like to think that at my age men and women can have their individual lives and but still find a signicant other to connect with on an emotional level and well to be intimate with even if they never get married or even live together.

[Dana223]

I see multiple questions stated here.

Yeah MGTOW is reality and it affects the future. But it does not mean all men follow this ideology. It is true that social media creates a false impression about others and elevates expectations unnecessarily. I believe once we'll get out of this bubble and stop measuring our lives to what we see on others' Instagram.
Regarding your cope with finding love: I think you should not give up. Try to remember what she said since last dating and ask how she's coping with her task (s). That shows that you care about what's going on with her. Take care of your body, get a haircut, dress up, etc.

[Dana223]

Thanks for MHO 💖❤️

[SiberFox]

Of course not, but I do think that unless we are honest with each others short comings and hold each other accountable for them, more and more will follow that path of self-destruction. Women should not give up on men, that being said they should focus on themselves and hold other women's poor behaviours to account. Men shouldn't give up on women either, and work towards being respectable and good men, while also holding other men's poor behaviours to account.

[Kyle-Jackson78]

stupidist thing i have ever seen, MGTOW need to get there heads out of their @sses and stop crying because they can't get girlfriends, WGTOW need to get off their high horses and stop thinking their entitled. I love human touch i would be depressed constantly if i was MGTOW.

[Leonharted]

Life is exactly as complicated as you want it to be. If you don't like it complicated, then simplify it. Can be as simple as swearing off social media and asking people out in person, instead of on dating apps.

[Qdbrown]

The very idea of going monk.

[Anonymous]

Well whatever it is that's happening definitely changed me. I no longer try to sleep with women it's just too much jumping through hoops. I'm not really attracted to other men definitely don't feel any emotional attachment but I I have gay sex now to satisfy sexual urges. I really do like gay sex though I have to admit so it's not that big of a problem it just sucks not having anyone to connect to though

[slatyb]

Not at all. If they are, we will go extinct. The “MGTOW” are a small minority of the sad, insecure, and socially awkward. Plenty of people are still having sex and making babies.

[normalice]

No, I thing those are fringe internet concepts that require funding from far right groups to keep alive.

[DiegoO]

With the ongoing social, political and economical crisis, many want to assure their financial future. The only times human population grow, is when there is socio political and economical stability. We are not living stable times.

[DiegoO]

Grow exponentially*

[Anonymous]

No, they are how sad lazy people self-selectively remove themselves from the gene pool.

If anything, the future of mankind is without these genetic cul-de-sacs.
And good riddance.

[Qdbrown]

Actually the real MGTOW dudes are much older, divorced with kids. They have effectively become biologically successful, and their genes live on.

[Opinion Owner]

@Qdbrown "the real MGTOW" - guess what? You don't get to decide who the "real" members of this cult/not-cult are. There's a ton of angry incel types labelling themselves with this shitty label on websites like this. And outside of fringe websites, no one cares about this movement.

[Qdbrown]

Yes, exactly, angry incels. And I graduated from the ranks. I no longer consider myself MGTOW.

But I assure you they are not young guys not getting any action. Most have been harshed in family courts, most are divorced and been used and abused by the system that laughs at male pain and suffering. Then when some of these guys start self terminating, they say, why didn't they seek help?

I still see it as useful. Most of these guys, me included, didn't have real or no father figures. Most were raised by single mothers. Their mothers taught them to be good little boys, and when they strike out time after time, they get angry. Now that they have a support group, I guess it's not all bad. I will agree some are pretty toxic, but to be honest the toxic is the venom running out of them. People outside the rage don't understand, or like you, shame then for being weak little miserable people who shouldn't be cared about.

So I do have a very good idea what it is. It takes about two years of working with others who are all equally pissed off in the place they find themselves in.

That said, some do have serious issues and even mental problems that will one day strike out at people. All these people don't understand why these guys go on massacres when they do blow. They often blame the weapon and the kid.

[Qdbrown]

But here is some insight. When nasty guys train pitbulls to become fighting dogs to bet on, they train them by being mean and harsh to them. They isolate them. They show little to no love. They make them wear heavy chains. They know at some point the dog will die, but the goal is to win enough fights. Now do that with humans. Coup them up in their house. Parents never around because they are always working. The kids they know treat them badly. Some get bullied. Some experience all kinds of trauma. No one ever makes that connection because most assume they have somesort of support system and people catching and helping them. But once a kid is ostercised, even teachers and other adults will leave them alone.

[Opinion Owner]

@Qdbrown And are abused pitbulls the future of dog-kind? Or a rare thing, compared to the billions of different dogs in the world?

[Qdbrown]

It"s an analogy. And yes, human pitbulls are the future. Except they are not pitbulls. They being out the very worse of what I call, "The Great Hairless War Monkeys." We are a species of very smart and cunning ape that have destroyed anyrhing that bothers us. We are pack animals that can eventually get into dark places and turn on others if we personally feel threatened or hurt. Just like Chimpanzees and other apes that get pushed out of the pack. Sadly we know this stuff after observing these dark behaviors in chimps, but we cannot see the same behavior in humans because most humans can't see themselves as animals. And the same. behavior is seen in dogs and pigs. They will get into fights within the pack until they are chased off. That process is often turns violent. What happens when the hated human cannot actually leave? Can't migrate away? They isolate and plan their attack, except without a way they fantasize until they see an opportunity.

[Anonymous]

In these sites everyone goes to mgtow but when i open the instagram page everyone is getting married even i know or i do not know. Where are these people?

[Qdbrown]

Because your in the age when people get married. But right now there is only 20% married families with kids.

I wouldn't use marriage as a barometer. Look at the divorce rate and unhappy marriages.

[Opinion Owner]

@Qdbrown yeah maybe it can be. But not just in my age i see older or younger people too. Yeah, divorce rate is high. Unfortunately.

[Kyle-Jackson78]

they are trolls, I have literally never met a MGTOW.

[Opinion Owner]

@Kyle-Jackson78 i think like you.

[Kyle-Jackson78]

how am i a troll?

[Opinion Owner]

@Kyle-Jackson78 no, i agree with what you say.

[Kyle-Jackson78]

oh sorry😂 misread, Gal u gotta be less vague

[Hangry06]

Half of those are people who don't mean what they say. They do not want to die alone

[Qdbrown]

That's a woman's fear. Men don't care about. They fear not about not being needed or wanted.

[Hangry06]

@Qdbrown It's the same meaning

[Baredog69]

I believe men would find out that life is a pain in the butt if they're not around women.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, eventually it'll split into male and female led continents walled off from one another and that will be a beautiful sight to behold

[Anonymous]

Honestly, I think so.

[LegendaryIcon]

Think theyre both pathetic, and aren't real people

[In_Trance]

On internet chat apps, maybe

[emperor90]

Yes i do