Do you think it is unreasonable for women to expect a faithful man?

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I personally think that it is very unrealistic and gullible for women go do so as this is coming from a woman with more logical common sense knowing the true nature of men and how men are wired and programmed. Men have a much higher sex drive than women and what women don't understand is that when men cheat oftentimes it has very less to do with the women and more so of the fact that they are lust driven creatures who are never satisfied with only one woman and that it does not matter what a woman does to maintain a relationship it's just that men always want something new and do not see themselves being with one woman for the rest of their lives which. So even though most men agree to monogamous relationships is because they know that that is what most women want even though that most or unwilling to be monogamous themselves so most men WILLINGLY force themselves into monogamous relationships to appease their women which is why they have commitment issues. Women have higher expectations of men being faithful which infuriates women mostly when their significant other/spouse cheats on them because unlike men, women get far too comfortable with their men whilst most men whether married or in a "committed relationship" usually have multiple women that they are already dating or sleeping with either before, during or after the relationship/marriage this allows men to get over relationships and marriages quicker and sooner than women because they already have had women that they were already sleeping with and dating while they were married or in the relationship in the first place. So this proves that men are less concerned with relationships and are only interested in women for only two reasons Beauty and sex. I just think that women should stop putting expectations on men for something that they know that they cannot control men are going to cheat regardless of the situation sooner or later.

IMuser · Accepted Answer

According to your "more logical common sense", women are creatures programmed to seek the top men, here top refers to someone who has good amount of resources and social identity. This is because a man with resources will provide for the woman and the offspring she generates and a better social circle will be good for the child as well as the woman herself. (Also, this will put her in a "superior" position than other women who were unable to get a guy like you did)

Such a man can have many options and you won't mind being one of them because you are attracted to the fact that he is able to woo many women, that other women are interested at him, that he is someone valuable.

Furthermore, due to a concept called hypergamy (which is basically a greedy algorithm to maximise resources), women are the first one to settle down so that they "can secure" the man and first one to bail out when they find someone more suitable (majority of divorces initiated by women augment this fact)

So as a man, am i supposed to assume that my so called wife/girlfriend is with me for as long as she doesn't find someone better than me and therefore be ready for a situation where she can leave me in an instant?

Overcoming these "natural" instincts is the essence of having a society, having a stable life. You give up a few rights to gain some rights. You give up a few short term pleasures for unpleasant activities which can help you gain more long term benefits (doing drugs is pleasurable but in long term, it will fuck you up. However, exercising or eating healthy is not the most pleasurable thing you can do but you will see the results in long term)

HighValue · Accepted Answer

I disagree. Of course a good woman should expect a man to be faithful. But she has to be good herself and choose a good man. People's past matters. It shows their morals. Once you have a bad past, it can never be changed, so it is possible to never be good enough to have a good mate if you make the wrong decisions in life.

If you want different results, stop choosing the same type of person for a mate.

Wonderer89 · Accepted Answer

No, not at all and I think it’s poor form to underestimate that “men just can’t do it” when they absolutely can and many do.

Monogamy isn’t for everyone but communication is. Those who don’t want to commit to one person can be honest about it but saying men aren’t can’t be monogamous is ridiculous and just excuses bad behaviour

RebeccaSJ · Accepted Answer

"Forsaking all others." Both parties should expect faithfulness.

bamesjond0069 · Answer

You were heading in a good direction but your conclusion doesn't follow and it focuses on the extremely superficial aspects of a relationship. Yes men do primarily care about beauty and sex however getting a relationship out of a man is not going to happen by fucking with other men in some polyamory situation. You just added a whole new variable to the equation when there is an obvious conclusion you missed. As history has shown, most women have dealt with this issue by simply accepting it. So we do know that is a proven viable way to handle this.

If your only concern is sex then i guess you won't mind fucking 20 men and simultaneously none of them committing to you. But that is an extremely unattractive situation for most women but props if you dont want any man to feel like he is in a relationship or owes you anything. Although that seems like the opposite of what you were saying was desirable when you mentioned monogamy.

The way to get monogamy or as close to it as possible is... surprise... not throwing it out the window to fuck many people at once. Strange right? Smh.

loveslongnails · Answer

I agree with you for the most part. I've often used this example and been bashed for it mostly by women, but I stick by it. The example is "what are some of the thoughts that go through a heterosexual couples heads on their wedding day:

Bride: " I can finally stop looking for a guy, dating, worrying about how attractive I have to be, etc, because I have my man"

Groom: "So this is the only pussy I'm supposed to have for the rest of my life? Hmm, I wonder if I can do that."

TonyV · Answer

I take it some man hurt you but not all men cheat. Non of my guy friends have cheated, know 2 guys that cheated but the sure ain't my friends.

Women cheat too you know, I know 2 female cheaters.

I'll agree that it is our animal instinct to want to spread our seed wide and far, but that is no excuse to cheat, if you agree to be monogamous you have to stick to it

Carolus · Answer

I beg to differ, faithful monogamous men exist, am proof of existence, it a matter of choice, even if I am, why should I? I choose not to, for I have never met a woman who is worth it. Yes, It’s unreasonable for females out there all drama, disrespectful and shit, still expect men to be faithful. Why should I be faithful to a woman who suspects and spies on me, confrontational all the time, shouts or mad all the time and controlling?

Wester1967 · Answer

80-85% of Women chase the top 20% of guys. These guys count as "all men" in their eyes. If you are chasing top 20 Chad, you're never gonna get a faithful boyfriend. But you all hate the lower 80 and pretend like they're invisible and would just be miserable and cheat on him if you got a bottom 80%er. So enjoy getting cheated on. Bye.

Twalli · Answer

It's not unreasonable to look for a faithful man. We're happy being monogamous if sex isn't used as a bargaining chip or reward in a relationship. My girlfriend is always willing to have sex with me when I want to, so I can have the sex I want with her.

backdoorman · Answer

Statistics show the majority of men never cheat, and that women your age cheat at about the same age as men, so I'm not sure what you keep ranting about.

driven159 · Answer

being monogamous is the way most people are but you don't hear or see people talking about it, but you only hear or see about people cheating so you think everyone is, but most don't

midnightmoon05 · Answer

Good men notice good women.

TwoToTooTutu2 · Answer

Perfectly reasonably

In_Trance · Answer

nope

crmoore · Answer

Not at all

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