+1 yBasic logic: human infants require an enormous amount of attention and resources to care for. Polygamous people are much less likely to stick around to give it to them, so a far smaller portion of their children survive to adulthood. Humans are K strategists, not R strategists.
Humans also carry the "biology imprint of tails"; why not ask why THAT isn't more popular? Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny; that doesn't mean it's actually significant.09 Reply
Asker+1 yThat's not true, before the European INVADERS came to the Americas, virtually ALL Native American Tribes were polyamorous, so the children were raised by the tribe of numerous fathers, mothers, aunts, cousins, uncles, etc.. etc.. it was actually BETTER for the kids. You speak from ignorance, I did my Thesis on this and even wrote a Mini-Book on it. READ IT BELOW
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Asker+1 yBEFORE THE EUROPEANS CAME TO THE AMERICAS, VIRTUALLY ALL NATIVE TRIBES WERE POLYAMOROUS
1. SENECA NATIVE American TRIBE ON SEX AND MARRIAGE
The Seneca tribe of the Iroquois Nation is one of the many indigenous societies to practice polygamy and polyandry as the standard for human relationships. It was normal for men and women to have more than one life partner, creating a family structure that wasn’t simply dependent upon two-parent child-rearing or relationships, but rather a network of support between all partners. Having more than one husband or wife wasn’t simply about sexual relations, as many contemporary critics of polygamy and polyandry tend to assume. But rather it was about love, partnership, and sex being experiences that didn’t have to remain restricted between two individuals. And yes, women valued these experiences too. For more on the Iroquois, read Barbara Mann’s book entitled, “Iroquoian Women.”
Asker+1 y2. COMANCHE NATIVE American TRIBE
Weyodi O’Clerc Stern says this about her own Comanche Tribe :
“My tribe, the Comanches, for instance were traditionally polyamorous, with both women and men free to take more than one spouse. As it was explained to me by my elders when a woman married a man she also married his brothers.
Instead of the hokey “blood brother” (which is actually a European tradition) nonsense, a Comanche man would be considered the brother of any man who had had sexual relations with his wife. Women also made men brothers without their consent. Even when approaching the other man for redress of wrongs in such a case, the first husband had to address his wife’s paramour as “brother”.
The deed was done, the men would be brothers for the rest of their lives. On the other side women were sisters who had sexual relations with the same man and when a man married a woman he also married her sisters. When speaking to my husband my grandmother consistently referred to my sisters as “your other wives” and to my sisters and me she would indiscriminately refer to any one of her grandson-in-laws as “your husband”. I always had to ask her ‘Which one?’”
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3. NAVAJO NATIVE American TRIBE
Former Navajo tribal chairman Peter MacDonald explains Navajo polygyny this way: “A man would marry a woman, then work hard for his family. If she had a sister who was not married, and if the man proved to be caring, a good provider, and a good husband, he would be gifted with his wife’s sister, marrying her as well.”
Asker+1 y4. PAWNEE NATIVE American TRIBE
Polyandry (the marriage of one woman to more than one man at the same time) was found among many of the tribes. This practice was often not recognized by Europeans, including many ethnographers, as it seemed so alien to them. The Pawnee, for example, practiced a form of temporary polyandry. When a boy reached puberty, his mother’s brother’s wife would take charge of him and initiate him into sex. He would continue having sex with her until he married. For a period of four or five years, the young man, and perhaps his brothers as well, would be a junior husband for this woman, creating a temporary state of polyandry. Polyandry also occurred as a form of an anticipatory levirate.
In Native American cultures, marriage was neither religious nor civil. There was usually no religious ceremony involved, only a public recognition of the fact of marriage. In most cases there was no formal ceremony. The couple simply started living together. In most Native American cultures, nearly all adults were married, yet marriage was not seen as permanent. It was recognized that people would be together in a married state for a while and then separate. Divorce was accomplished easily since the couple did not own property in common. Each partner simply picked up his or her personal property and left.
Divorce was neither a civil nor a religious concern-this was a private matter among the people involved. While some American commentators bemoan the negative impact of divorce upon children, in Native cultures, each child had many fathers, many mothers, and many siblings. A child was not property but a member of a large family and thus had rights. Since divorce was accepted and the raising of the child was the responsibility of many relatives, not just the biological mother and father, divorce does not appear to have had negative impact on the children.
Asker+1 y5. HAWAI'I / INUIT / YANOMAMO NATIVE TRIBES
Informal polyandry is a feature of some hunter-gatherer societies, such as the Inuit of northern North America, or the Yanomamo of the Orinoco river basin in South America. The concepts of premarital and extramarital sexual activities were absent, and it was probably true of Hawai‘i, as it was said to have been true of much of Polynesia, that “there are no people in the world who indulge themselves more in their sensual appetites than these”
(Ellis, 1782, Vol. 2, p. 153).
Asker+1 y6. AMAZONIAN NATIVE TRIBES
Few cultures are as sexually liberated as those of the ancient Amazon rainforest. Nearly 70 percent of the tribes practiced multiple paternity, in which all of a woman’s sexual partners were fathers to her children. It was commonplace for people to be open about having multiple sexual partners in the ancient Amazon. Open sexual arrangements were socially accepted, even expected, according to anthropologist Robert Walker. And these multiple attachments were anything but casual. Men acted as father figures to the children of any and all of their partners. A woman could marry one man, making him the primary father to her children, but all the other men in her life would be considered vital secondary fathers.
As Walker explains, this was partly because of the ancient Amazonians’ rather unique take on genetics:
*“In these cultures, if the mother had sexual relations with multiple men, people believed that each of the men was, in part, the child’s biological father. It was socially acceptable for children to have multiple fathers, and secondary fathers often contributed to their children’s upbringing. In some Amazonian cultures, it was bad manners for a husband to be jealous of his wife’s extramarital partner. It was also considered strange if you did not have multiple sexual partners. Cousins were often preferred partners, so it was especially rude to shun their advances.”* (end quote)
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For children, having as many fathers as possible had its advantages. More dads meant more gifts and support for the child, which is known to increase a youngster’s odds of reaching adulthood. Besides, it was a rather pragmatic solution to a basic fact of life in a culture where warfare was all too common and brutal. If a child’s primary father died, he or she would have other males around to step in and act as father figures, easing the newly widowed mother’s burden.
Men also benefited from this system. Sharing paternity brought men together, cementing bonds and friendships (basically, just like Three Men and a Baby, just with less Steve Guttenberg). Indeed, one of the best ways for two men to cement an alliance was to share wives, often in a family – brothers were some of the most frequent wife-sharers According to Walker’s new research, of 128 indigenous groups in lowland South America, 53 are known to practice multiple paternity, while only 23 are known to practice single paternity. The remaining 52 don’t have clear conception beliefs, making it difficult to know whether they once possessed this custom. That means at least 40% and perhaps as much as 70% of these groups once practiced multiple paternity, which definitely means it was a common feature of Amazonian civilization.
Asker+1 y7. MOCHE, MEHINKU AND GUAJIRO NATIVE TRIBES
The Moche Tribe existed along north coast of Peru from 200 AD to 850 AD. It was a complex, state level society that covered a large geographical area. Their cities, temples, and agriculture dotted the northern Peruvian coastline in what are considered two factions of the Moche: the Northern and Southern. The Moche are probably best known and recognized for their complex pottery styles.
The Moche erotic pottery is characterized by the various sexual acts depicted, which include acts of oral, vaginal, and anal sex as well as masturbation. These acts are most commonly shown between a man and a woman, although male on male homosexual acts are present, too. Although heterosexual sexual relations are the most common it is interesting to note that vaginal sexual acts are the most rarely depicted. Common sexual acts demonstrated in Moche erotic pottery are (in order of most common to least common) heterosexual anal sex, acts of masturbation, and heterosexual oral sex. There are also several vases that portray males with their erect penises. These pieces are known as phallic libations. These are functional ceramics used as pouring vessels, with the erect penis being used as the spout.
There are some other oddities in Latin America when it comes to mating. A small village in Brazil called Mehinaku is a place where size really does matter. This refers not to the size of your package, but rather the size of your catch. There, men compete for partners and sex by presenting women with fish. The man with the largest fish wins the girl. Among those in the Guajiro tribe of Colombia, much like singles in the US, this indigenous group scores on the dance floor. The Guajiro ladies catch a fella by tripping him during their ceremonial dances. If she trips him, they must have sex.- +1 y
... Well, you're thorough; I've got to give you that. Unfortunately, you've started with your conclusion and are looking for evidence to support it. If you want to raise your kids that way, you're welcome to try- but you won't do any better this time around than you did before.
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988 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Well we are the only animal who managed to create a civilization. That requires rules and limitations for keeping it operational. Monogamy benefits the civilization for a very small price. That not the top men get almost all the women. You can see the result in todays horrible dating climate in many western countries, what happens when people ignore the best for all to the hope for the best for themselves.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWell, I guess that makes sense.
But then, so is killing for sport, killing the offspring of your competition, stealing food and claiming territory for resources... these are also "natural" things we share with mammalian species. Do you think we should act on those behaviors as well?00 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Spot on , because of ludicrous " society standings " in reality monogamy never works , never will , 52 % divorce rate , and many many more affairs , it will never work , all a façade.
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Asker+1 yAbsolutely correct !
+1 yBecause studies show that Poly people are less happy than monogamous people. Slut
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIf you want to be polygamous, go ahead. Stop trying to justify it and tell the rest of us who are happy with monogamy that we’re wrong, haha.
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Asker+1 yoh go bloviate elsewhere you returd
Opinion Owner+1 yReread that sentence and then let me know who the “returd” is. Emotional wreck who is too childish to be loyal to a woman. Grow up.
Asker+1 yToo childish to see that your CULTure isn't the only one on the planet.
There are tons of polygamous cultures on the planet right now.
Are they 'Childish' too?
Before the European INVADERS came to the Americas, virtually ALL Native American Tribes were poly and the women had more sexual autonomy than your modern Feminist. Were they CHILDISH too? You're the very type of personality who would've wanted the Natives tortured and thrown into pits with vicious dogs to be torn limb from limb because of this shiit.
Opinion Owner+1 yI told you to do what you want and that still wasn’t enough for you. That indicates to me that you’re really insecure about your lifestyle, despite how natural you claim it to be.
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