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Nobody is truly independent. Who is using the operating system they programmed on a device they invented using a connection they built and maintain themselves to communicate in an online forum they built and maintain? How many of you could build a pencil without assistance right now? Nobody is independent, men or women, so letās get that out of the way.
Who not what a woman is takes precedence. Things are going to change after kids, or even after time without kids. What a woman looks like in her 20ās and 30ās doesnāt mean she is going to be a great person through her 80ās. I prefer a woman who has some culture and class, but as some may have heard, Mark Twain famously cautioned against letting your schooling interfere with your education. Formal schooling is not at all the only way to become educated. Nobody wants to date or marry a loser, but there is no single agreed upon standard of what is defined as. This is one of many issues which require some serious consideration about whose interests do āyourā ābeliefsā serve? For example, do 12 hour workdays serve employeeās interests or do they serve their employerās interests as well as merchants who can keep prices artificially high because the households can afford to exchange dadās time and health and presence in childrenās lives for frivolous garbage? Is a happy well fed well read and healthy family not the most important measure of success of a life well spent? The corporate rat race can kiss my ass. Your job will have a want ad written before your corpse cools, and thatās only if they donāt invent a way to fire you for becoming too expensive to the company health plan once you age into medical problems. Your kids will be sitting in the room with you when it happens. Given an absence of social stigma and a means of economic viability Iād much rather stay home and give my kids the best possible start in life than teach other peopleās.
I wanted kids, which was a deal breaker for me on more than one occasion. Compatible long term goals are significantly more important than short term sex or short term appearance. A good mother is highly important vs an egg donor who might change her mind in a few months, is untrustworthy with kids or who would resent them or get bored or angry with them.
Neither of us play a musical instrument which is a shame, but she can play the 🍆 flute🤠
Very interesting!
If women actually gave a sht what men think they'd realize 90% of their lives have been a waste, thus they need to double down on the feminism, or lord their worldview over men i. e. convince men to find their college degrees more attractive than what actually makes their pants grow. Which is ironic because OF is full of this:

And not this:

So women absolutely know what men want. The brainwashed ones just want to shoehorn their failure to read the tea leaves onto men. I said what I said! Nobody cares about your MBA, your eyelash store on Amazon *read "I'm an entrepreneur," or how your body count of 87 (all before the age of 21) made you a "better person." I mean imagine being a 16 year old girl and you from the future comes back to tell you, "yea eff med school" be pretty, stay in shape, learn to cook and STFU every now and then. The doctors will come to YOU!" I'd be like shiiit ain't gotta tell me twice!
Well okay then! Ahahaha šš
No. Some of them want them to waddle to go get some more cheetos.
:) I'm tellin' ya.
Ahahaha! š¤ššš
Some guys care about more than that. But others are exactly like that.
I agree 1000%
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No that would only take someone Soo far. There are a lot of pretty girls with tight bodies everywhere. More than any one guy could get through in a lifetime. So it's important to to find someone that can compliment you and your life. Someone that can motivate you to be better, stand by you and support you when life gets rough. Relationships take work and I look for someone who can adapt to an ever changing social environment and grow with the relationship. Someone that's is mature and aware of thier needs and can communicate those needs. Sure a pretty girl with a tight body and a thick booty is what gets my initial attention but I need Soo much more than that. Like LL says "I need Love". With a little Al Green mixed in "Good or Bad,. Happy or Sad"
LOVE your answer!
Personally I don't think there's an issue with strong, independent and successful, but they want someone who matches and exceeds what they have, which is a small minority of men, and those men don't want someone who has those traits which are traditionally masculine.
What they won't then do is look to the guys who don't have an issue with those traits, or maybe even find them attractive, because they will be less successful, less attractive and less ambitious, so already discarded as possibilities.
I enjoyed reading your thoughts
Thank you, some of it will be coloured by my experiences so far, so it's probably biased. So take it with a pinch of salt.
Very helpful! Thank you
Looks is like a billboard.
It might attract attention.
But it's not the deciding factor at all for most of us.
A girls personality is almost always more important to the waste majority of us.
In other words, if I have to choose between someone with a bad personality that looks amazing and someone with a great personality that looks a bit so so it might be easier for the good looker to grab my attention.
But ultimately I'd prefer the one with the personality every time for anything long term, once I notice her and the option between the two being there to being with.
LOVE your answers! This was soooo helpful. Thank you for taking the time to write out your answer. So reassuring and insightful
That's sweet!
Beauty can get your foot through the door but if you want to keep your man you need to be a good fit for him (but it's difficult to pinpoint what makes a woman a good fit)
If I don't mesh with someone the relationship isn't going to last much more than a month (if that) and it will be stressful on both sides probably
Under the same token personality can make up for looks (unless your legit totally unappealing physically)
Fact is theirs a lot of variables and asking online won't yeild perfect results and only small portions of the bigger picture
I know exactly what you mean. Like if there's no chemistry it probably won't last.
I'm not gonna lie, yes we do. Now that doesn't mean it's the only thing we appreciate about a girl, but it's the first and foremost decisive element. If, however, the girl turns out to be a b*tch and have a rotten personality all the good looks won't help.
Contrary to what feminism will have you believe guys just don't care about a woman's income, social status, or level of education. In general guys want a pretty girl with a tight body and a cool attitude they feel they are in sync with.
So to answer you question to the point. Yes looks are important, but they aren't everything and by no means the only thing we care about. At the end of the day we all lose our looks as we age and then what's left? So a good personality and a mutually respectful, loving relationship is just as important.
Thank you for the honest feedback! I enjoyed reading your thoughts
I want to be attracted to a women physically as well as her personality. Her looks mean nothing to me if her personality is not there. You can be the most gorgeous woman and if you have a bad attitude or are just an awful person, I want nothing to do with her. Her looks draw me in but her personality makes me stay.
This was a AMAZING answer! Thanks for sharing
Most important for me is that a girl is intelligent and that I can have good and meaningful conversations with her. Body type is not that relevant, I can be attracted to skinny girls, I can be attracted to more voluptuous girls. Same as hair colour, skin colour, boob size, etc. Most important is that she is smart. A woman can be very beautiful, but if she is dumb, I couldn't be in a relationship with her. Intelligence is more important than looks.
I really enjoyed reading your thoughts! Such a beautiful post. Intelligence should be the most important thing alongside a good personality of course
Tight? sure. Or she can be a loose woman - I'm flexible.
I would certainly be happier if she knew how to play some musical instrument, and- regardless of whether or not in the military per se she at least knew handgun fundamentals and could carry effectively. I need someone to protect me. ;- )
I learned how to play piano in high school! And military training definitely comes in handy
C'mon over and we'll pop a few in the 9-ring!
Tight body is great but only goes so far. Honestly I'd prefer her to be highly educated to where I feel like I'm leaving the conversation having learned something or a different perspective.
Absolutely look for maternal instincts and even pay attention to her family relationships and dynamics.
Low stress is a must. Good sense of humor or at the very least doesn't take herself too seriously, and can hold her own and roast me from time to time.
I enjoyed reading your answer! Those are great qualities to look for in a girl. I really liked the part about "low stress". That's something I value in a guy.
Lol! Totally understandable š
We are visual creaturesā¦so, I would want someone that has some visual attributes that catch my attention. But that is far from the only things that attracts me. I need someone that is mentally stimulating with a compatible personality/temperament. Someone with a sense of humor and is active but doesnāt mind relaxing/laying around/taking it easy.
Sense a humor is a awesome quality. I love being with someone who can make me laugh. I also liked that you mentioned temperament.
Love that! Excellent feedback
Not the only thing we care about but itās what we notice first and what gets our attention but if she is really dumb and canāt do much then Iām probably not going to stick around too long if she isnāt compatible with me as in interests and similarities
That makes a lot of sense. Looks catches the attention but character, personality, and brains keep the man's attention
Exactly
If that was all that mattered, a sex doll would be enough and men wouldn't need to go after women. A womans mind can be an incredibly sexy thing and to have a kind & caring personality can make her perfect. Point is we like the person attached to the body. The body is just a plus
I absolutely adore this comment!!! Thank you for explaining your answer
Appearance is superficial and looks can fade. What is more attractive is an intelligent woman who is confident and not concerned with what people think of her. She may be beautiful but does not flaunt it.
The bottom line is I look for more in a woman then her body.
I really enjoyed reading your opinion! Very lovely
Could lie to you and say men are attracted to success... But we basically pick a girl 70% based on apperance...
However with that being said, i wouldn't date a dumb beauty queen... At least have some kind of personality... Just average at least
This was actually very helpful. Thanks
Happy Easter š°
I had a great time at Church! The ends went wild during the Easter Egg Hunt. Such a great day. I hope you have a good night š
Kids*
Of course not, the beauty is important but there's more than beauty... the character is important, the matching between me and her, the lifestyle... etcWe in Egypt say : The beauty of body is mortal, the most important thing is the beauty of the soul!!
Egypt is literally the most beautiful place in the world.
Thanks!! ā¤ļø
Pretty and a tight body is a bonus and yes, that will initially catch my eye, but thats not all there is. Determination, ambition, creativity, EQ, discipline are fantastic qualities and those will be the deciding factors as to whether I stay with a girl.
for your follow up question, yes very much
LOVE this comment! Determination and discipline are such great traits to have!
To understand your question, they are inner beauty and outer beauty.
all men (myself include) are attracted to outer Beauty (physical looks) because thatās just how men view things. But once they start to express their inner beauty (personality) our point of view could drastically change.
I LOVE this answer. Very helpful and insightful
If I only cared about girls being pretty and having a tight bodies then me being an atheist of the catholic family, understanding my trauma and life, escaping a psychopathic teacher that wanted to rape me and kill me, understanding how the world works, understanding why I am attracted to both females and males, and helping my friend not commit suicide at age of 16 would have been a waste of time because my entire personality I have been developing for almost two decades would just make me a horny man with no real values and no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Looks aren't everything. A pretty face/nice body is NOTHING if it is paired with an ugly heart/nasty personality.
I agree with you 1000%!!! Such a great answer š
It's a Plus, I have to attracted to the lady. Part of that is looks. But looks means nothing without a great personality and other qualities. So it's a bit of both.
That makes sense! Her personality matters the most
A compatible personality beats appearance for the most part, to me.
I'm a "blue collar" person, so a lot of independence, education, etc, may not be a good fit for me, as they could be in a higher class.
Oooooo! This makes a lot of sense! Thank you so much for your help
I like girls who are pretty, but with curvy and plus size bodies. That's not the means to the end though. She also has to have the right personality, similar interests and values, etc.
I really enjoyed reading your opinion!
Thank you for taking the time to explain your answer. Amazing feedback.
I think that if a girl is cute/attractive to me, they would have to have a head on their shoulders. Cause a hot girl without much up there ain't attractive to me
That makes sense. No one wants pretty but dumb lol
As long as the girl has a kind heart and we love one another that's all matters to me beauty is skin deep
That's so beautiful
@secret6620 You are welcome (( Hugs ))
I hope you had a Happy Easter š£
@secret6620 Thank you, Happy Easter too :) :) Mine was short but sweet hehehe!!!
Her character and personality can make her beautiful.
Good character and personality are great traits.
we care about mutual understanding and sex all in all. being succesful and rest all is a cherey on top.
Giggles! Awesome feedback!
Nope i need a lot more than that. I need intelligence a great personality and a good sense of humor and i need her to ne loyal with out those qualities looks mean nothing
Loved all your listed qualities. Especially intelligence
Thanks i thought you would cause i just described you
Blushes!!! I wish
Thats all you and you know it! š
i focused on appearance some what but i also focuse on her heart
like is she a good person would she take a bullet for me will i to pend the rest of my life coming home to her
This was so beautiful! I really like your answer
I would not say only but I would say the majority of the time yes.
That's what I was thinking too! Thank you for your help
You missed the whole point. We care about personality the most
Oh I see!
Its just the icing o the cake.
A girl may be gorgeous on the outside but ugly on the inside.. and vice versa
Omg soooo true! Some pretty girls are just evil on the inside.
Absolutely!
Looks attract while personality keeps me interested
LOVE your answer
Define strong, define successful, and define independent.
That's what "google" is for lol. I'm not a dictionary
Oh okay! That makes sense. I use the dictionary definition. So hopefully that helps.
Okay!
@demonics what are you going on about lol š. A sentence needs a subject and predicate š¤
No cause Iām a guy. I care about personality more than looks
I really like this answer
No, a lovely personality is what's most sexy. Then, for me, I go from there...
Personality is a great answer
I love a female who has high self esteem , Humility and ready-courtesy.
Manners and humility are such awesome traits in a woman.
I also care about her Independence, personality and aptitude
Oh those are some very good traits.
Looks are good and all and is important but a girl without a decent personality is updatable.
Personality is sooo important.
No personality is the first thing I notice, but it helps if they are pretty and have a tight body. You are perfect.
You're sooooo awesome! Thank you
Personality is much more important to me, a girl could be gorgeous but if we can't hold a conversation then she becomes unattractive to me
Good conversation is definitely a requirement
I like a bad girl but have a good character and will understand me and will do what I want her to do for me to be happy
This is such a great answer. Thank you for sharing
Well yeah but you're the one posting pics of girls butts not me
That doesn't really have anything to do with the question but I'm sure you know that. Unsolicited opinions are better kept in your head lol. Such a daft response
Anyway. Yes it is all I care about
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic WITHOUT adding judgmental insults! I appreciate it.
You are right I had no right to insult you
Thank you for your apology! I don't hold grudges. All water under the bridge. Hopefully you had a good weekend.
Yes you too
Thank you š
I don't care for looks much. If she has an amazing personality and is caring, that's a 10/10 for me.
Personality is everything!
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I think so too
I am a Sapiosexual. So I have to be attracted to her mind first and then her body.
Oh okay! Being sapiosexual is a very alluring trait
No if she has a nice personality and is fun caring hard working not afraid to get her hands dirty.
Very nice qualities
Being pretty and having fit toned body is always a plus...
Thanks for your help
I love your body type the most honestly.. so fit and tight.
Blushes šš!! Thank you
Strong, successful, independent. They sound a bit like male qualities. So no. Thereās so many better female attributes, like caring and sensitive.
Very bizarre perspective
This one doesn't. If she's can't hold a conversation (for starters), then I'm out of there. I want an equal. Maybe that's asking too much. If it is, so be it.
Women shouldnāt be men, also āstrongā women sound horrible to date. Thatās all I have to say.
Makes sense why you're single lol š¤·āāļø
We do not care much about the exes you had along.
Oh nice! Some guys are obsessive over things like that.
You right but I would not waste ma time digging deep I to that.
My girl is fat and really cute
That's nice!
Soul is everything
Beautiful š
You sound black
So strong, independent, and career driven? I most definitely sound black. But unfortunately you sound illiterate since you didn't answer the question.
What a loser.
you are shallow lol
I know you are but what am I?
Ahahaha š Yup got you good.
@secret6620
here is the real answer
we do not care
about your money
your status
what you do for a living
non of that
we care about
1) getting along with you
2) we have to find the girl some what attractive she does not have to be super hot
3) she must be a good women on purpose ( read the bible and listen to it )
4) children, some of us men want children, the younger you are the easier it is, you will run out of eggs
5) she must bring a little bit of money not much,
most men DO NOT WANT THE HIGH LIFE if you care about that,
go find yourself some rich idiot
6) stay in shape
7) no cheating cause men do kill for that, you can look it up happens every day
im going over basic stuff
there will be differences between guys
but at the most basic level
we want something along these lines
This was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to explain your answer. And I read my Bible everyday. Happy Easter
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