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Believe it or not, I’m actually the same height as you.
And, I’ve never had trouble finding women who want to date me.
I’ve been in 7 long term relationships (which don’t include short-term relationships, situationships, and dates) and I’ve been my current relationship for over 4 years, and we’re still going very strong.
There has even been a girl that rejected 2 taller guys (mutual acquaintances) that asked her out, because she wanted to be with me instead.
There’s hope for you. You just need to straighten out your mindset and work on bettering yourself.
Just like when you’re interacting with someone, you can turn a non-awkward situation into an awkward situation, simply by perceiving it as awkward. You will have created awkwardness out of thin air.
In the same way, when you make height an issue when it doesn’t have to be, by perceiving it as an issue, you will make it an issue. Your insecurities will project into your interactions and that will spoil your charm.
People feel your energy. If you feel nervous, they will feel your nervousness. If you’re brimming with confidence, they’ll feel that from you too.
Carry yourself as if height is an absolute non-issue, and it will eventually become a non-issue.
In fact, if you exude confidence while also being short, that will only make you seem even MORE confident and make you stand out, because you’re owning it. You’re not allowing your supposed disadvantage phase you at all, which will only make you even more intriguing and charismatic.
So work on becoming the best version of yourself. Better your health and fitness, the way your present yourself. Develop especially your charm, social skills, and above all, confidence.
Be optimistic, think positively, and focus on how good things could be if you lived your life as the best version of yourself.
Then, go after it. 💪
I'm glad it is working out for you.
Thank you. I hope that you’ll take the path of self-mastery so you can experience what’s possible for you too. There’s hope for you. Don’t let fatalist ideology ruin your true potential. You got this. 💪
What height range of women have you dated?
@insteadfew 5’0” to 5’7” but the majority were in the 5’2” to 5’4” range
So most were around 5'4 only?
Were they very average in looks?
@insteadfew Above average. Legitimately cute. And educated. Two of them went through med school. The rest all earned a college degree.
Personally I don't date, but I've known three men somewhat closely who were also short and who married women the same height or taller than them. I would say I know more examples, but I only know them tangentially, so I can't say they are actually good examples or not.
In the dating process, only one of them mentioned height as a downside (the woman while he wasn't present), but she said it wasn't a deal breaker just a preference. Both were also middle aged and divorced with kids, so I'm sure they both compromised on some less important preferences like that.
The other two though, I never heard height mentioned negatively. One was 5'4 your height, and just started flirting with my sister in the workplace (same height) and they dated and married. He was her 3rd boyfriend, 1st short guy to flirt with her that I know of. Height was brought up maybe twice by other people, not in the relationship, to mention they were the same height. He didn't like it being pointed out, but laughed it off and they just don't talk about it—at least not with others.
And another is my dad. He's not super short but is noticeably shorter than average, and my mom is taller than him. Neither mind it or have any discomfort talking about it. I never heard it brought up when they recounted how they met or dated (started out by coincidence, not intentionally. I don't know about any past partners). Either of them will mention it occasionally, casually, if it's relevant. Nobody else has said anything about it since I can remember, though it's possible they got comments when they were first dating. But my dad genuinely doesn't seem to care at all.
So there's some examples, maybe helpful in seeing how dating can work and even lead to marriage, even when you're short and/or she's tall.
Maybe go for women who have shorter dads and taller moms? They could be more open to it since they're familiar with it in a relationship.
I don't think my mom's dad was short, but her mom was also tall, so they may have been the same height. I don't know he was in a wheelchair most recently so I don't remember. Worth consideration anyway.
Well. Thank you for taking the time to post a detailed comment. I appreciate it. So one was from a much older generation, another a divorced person but your sister does seem to be an exception provided she's not too old. I'm glad it worked out for her. In today's generation, it's much more of a dealbreaker. You don't even get a chance with them. But I'm glad at least men of the past got more chances :)
I am ~ 5'2". I have dated guys that were 5'5" all the way to 6'4".
The guy I am with now is 5'8" and that's how tall my husband was.
I don't see what's wrong with dating women shorter than you.
And that's my opinion. Good things come in small packages 😊
Would you date someone shorter than you?
There you go. :) Have a nice day. The vast majority of shorter women prefer taller men too by the way.
The thing is most young women now are quite tall and not just 5'2
I’m shorter than you. It sucks to be short because people do make fun of your height like you chose to be born short. But someone will look past that and see the beauty behind it and embrace it and learn to love the beautiful person that you are.
What's your height and do people make fun of your height too?
Ah damn. That's quite short even for a female... but hey be glad that you are a female and short... it would be worse if you are a man even if you are 5'6
As I said being short doesn't really matter and bother females anyway!
So lucky you
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Can't tell you how many tall ugly people roam this earth. A lot.
They'll still usually have a better chance of getting girls over a short, decent looking dude.
I disagree but if short guys live life with that impression then that is the vibe they will put out and get back in return.
Well, people don't lose confidence for no reason. If you get kicked down enough, you'll lose it too. You can disagree all you want. Reality sucks.
I don't believe people are getting kicked down because they are short. Most short guys who don't do well also have other flaws that they are not willing to fix therefor find comfort in blaming their height.
I'm educated (STEM), Set to make a decent wage as an engineer, own a small home, I'm relatively fit (I run) and I am average in the looks department. I think I did quite well for myself. So yes, I do think it's due to my height as mentioned by several women, including my parents who constantly putted me down throughout my childhood.
Are you a virgin?
Yup. Not because I didn't get opportunities for casual sex, but because I'd rather do it within a committed relationship.
@coachTanthony everything you’ve said is correct
@sunflower00 thanks! I am 5'7. You will never hear me ever complain about anything in my life on my height. We all have to play the hand we have been dealt.
Being shorter than 6ft while the women are only chasing 6ft men may seem like a disadvantage. Until you realize the VAST majority of single women are nasty people on the inside. Ask yourself, is 20 minutes of sex worth weeks of confrontations, petty arguments, being responsible for her happiness when she's instatiably depressed. They, more than half, are all on mental health medication. They destroy America, they think your masculinity and manhood should be defeated and championed against. You will get nowhere with these corrupt "females". Just say no, focus on yourself. Theyll ignore you while you're in your 20s trying to make something of yourself while they are handed beauty at 20 on a silver platter and basically always squander that gift. Just ignore them, they will be knocking at your dm's in your 30s and 40s. I'm average, maybe slightly better than average and I can tell you with confidence that your time is coming, and they live in quiet fear of what you're capable of.
I’m just as short as you are, if not shorter, and the fact that you’re considering being short as similar as a disability is laughable lol.
Like quit with the dramatics. That’s incredibly insulting to those who have actual disabilities. You should be grateful that you don’t actually have one.
Being short sucks yes, but at this point I’ve accepted it. The fuck do I look like being a grown man still crying about “aww woe is me. I’m so short. Wha wha wha 😫😫😫”
I’ve never had issues with dating. Then again I’m in the gay dating world so I guess I have it easier. But even so, there’s been women who have been interested in me regardless of my height.
Maybe because of the gay man fetish for some women. I'm glad it worked out for you. :)
You've dated women taller or as tall as you?
@insteadfew I don’t date women. But I’ve slept with women who were taller than me or around the same height, yes
You don't date women? But you have sex with them? 🤔
How much taller were they and did they have no problem with you being shorter than them?
@insteadfew One girl was my height or a bit shorter than me. Then the others were 1-2 inches taller.
And I’m guessing they didn’t have a problem with me being shorter since they slept with me lol
Ahh they were just a couple of inches taller only.
Most of the women are just around your height only?
@insteadfew Yeah. There’s been women who were taller that have flirted with me and stuff before. I was friends with one girl in highschool who was like 5’7 and she was into me. But I didn’t feel the same about her so nothing happened
How come taller women showed interest in you?
@insteadfew I don’t know 🤷♂️ maybe cause I have a cute face and nice personality lol. Not to sound conceited or anything but I’m pretty confident in myself. I think I have game
You are gay?
@insteadfew Basically. I’m attracted to and enjoy sex with both men and women but only date men
Why not date women then?
@insteadfew I just don’t have any feelings for women beyond sexual attraction
Does sex feel better with men or women?
@insteadfew men. I’m generally more attracted to men and I like to be more submissive so sex with other men is overall more enjoyable to me
Have you ever been with dominant women especially the ones who were taller and stronger than you?
I'd say you just need to own it, and look for a short woman. There are plenty of women below 5'4. Find yourself a nice Asian woman lol.
Get in shape, try and get a good job, and some short woman will appreciate you.
It's gonna be hard, but not impossible.
You only lose if you play the game. Why play a game and waste all the effort if the odds are attacked stacked against your favour? Accept it and do something else... is what I'm thinking. I don't want anyone who feels like they're settling for me.
So NOT dating women makes you a winner? Don't see the logic there.
I would say a short guy who refuses to date because he thinks women will reject him, is more of a loser than the guy that pushes through all of that.
You might not lose the game, but you also won't win. Good luck being a loser I guess. Maybe these other virgins on here will help you feel better about that.
Not at all. Not playing the dating games you don't lose or win. Just like not entering in a football match makes you neither a winner or loser. I'd think a guy who puts a lot of his time, money, effort and emotions into a lottery which has a 1% chance of winning a loser, yes. Losing virginity isn't a big deal now. Its the age of cheap hookers and tinder.
Actually, I have through talking to people. It's actually a very positive movement. It helps people like me who have been dealt bad cards in life, stay resentment free and not hurt others. You better pray I do pass this "resentment" on to others who need it :)
So the little pussy threatens a bunch of other innocent people "playing the game", he didn't want to play cause it's "not fair" or he was too afraid he would lose.
Sounds like a positive movement. One that threatens to pass their "resentment" on to others that have nothing to do with their said "little" pathetic lives. Real winner over here. lol
See? This is the whole problem with you guys. You think so "positively" until someone else disagrees with you. You resort to insults and degradation of individuals who wishes to hurt no one and wants to live their lives in peace. Do you think you'd change my mind by insulting me? What pleasure do you gain from kicking someone who is not going to hit back? I'm not threatening anyone. I do not wish to hurt anyone. I simply said resentful people like that exist, and my ideology would help them shift their focus onto other things and live their lives in peace. What is so bad about that? Did I insult you?
1. You insulted women, all of them. Not just a few, so your positivity is bullshit. You have hate in your heart as well. Really? All are whores? Even your mom? Because you are short lol.
2. You suggested that you and others like you, MIGHT take their "resentment" out on others who "need" it. What is that supposed to be translated as if not a threat? You knew what you meant when you typed it, but you pass it off as "other" people might do it. I wasn't even mad until you went there. I wish you weren't such an anonymous pussy so I could report your ass. YOU and people like you are the real danger.
3. What pleasure do you get from whining about how hard life is for you? I imagine it's the same type of pleasure I get telling you how fucking stupid you are for whining about your life and doing nothing to fix it. People like you are the reason the country is falling apart. A bunch of weak pussies, that's why I care.
1. Where did I say that all women are whores? If you can show me where, I will apologise.
2. I pointed out the reality that a vast majority of men who engage in anti social behaviour due to their resentment towards their inadequacy, might benefit from my ideology. So that they shift from their resentment and focus on other aspects of their lives. I am responsible for my words. Not how you interpret them.
3. I never whined about how hard my life is. I accept that my life is hard. I promote an ideology of looking past it and focusing on other aspects of your life. There's no point trying to fix things you can't fix 99% of the time.
4. Additionally, you began to insult me with no provocation. For that, I'd like you to apologise. If you refuse to acknowledge your mistake, that says more about your character. I believe I have been respectful to you and will continue to be so.
1. It's the age of cheap hookers and tinder. Sure maybe you didn't say all women, but your thoughts are clear. And if it's not all women, then what is your issue? You could just find one that's not like that right?
2. And what is that ideology? To just give up? How does that benefit them? It's hard so don't try guys. Might spare their feelings a bit, but it will never benefit you to not try. You just try to make them feel better about them not trying. That it's ok because you couldn't do it either. You also gave up so if others give up, then your doing so becomes ok. You are no longer the loser if others drop out as well.
3. Your whole post is a big "woe is me" story. About how you are just gonna give up because you can't win. You are looking for sympathy, not any solutions. It's what children do when they have a problem. Not a grown man.
4. You can suck my dick you pathetic pussy. You threatened a bunch of innocent people with your "resentments" and what you might do with them. So I don't really give a fuck what a weak pathetic piece of shit like you thinks about what kind of "Man" I am. lol. Go fuck another short guy and cry together.
1. Not "sure maybe". I did NOT say all women. *Lie #1. You can find cheap hookers. Fact. Tinder is a major platform geard towards casual sex. Fact. And no, I can't. You mentioned virginity. That's why I brought it up. Sex isn't hard. Finding real relationships are. Since you lied about my words and admitted that you did, I'd like you to apologise.
2. It benefits them as they can focus on other aspects of their lives which are attainable. Careers, travelling, gaining experiences and knowledge. Things which are attainable. Play the games you can win in with effort with good risk- return. Instead of playing a losing game.
3. I'm not looking for sympathy. Sympathy does not help me in any way. I'm looking for opposing ideologies to see if any others exist with stronger premises that I could adopt.
4. Here you go. More insults because you can't keep up a respectful conversation nor accept your mistakes.
There is nothing I could say to you that would change your mind. You would just invent some reason that I was wrong. That's why talking to people like you is frustrating.
You think you know the answer, that you have seen the light. And to EVERYONE else you sound like a scared little boy, that has been hurt too much. You search the internet for other hurt men like yourself and commiserate with them. Women are this and that. NOT the fact that you might be lacking other things, rather than your height. Or that you just want more than you can get.
I have also met plenty of guys exactly like you in real life, and you all are just too picky. You want your supermodel that is totally loyal and sucks your dick whenever you want. You look past the chubby girls, or the more average women that might date you. Some short, average women that would gladly be your girlfriend. But YOU don't want her. You want the girl that doesn't want you. A lot of women do the same. And I have no sympathy for them either. I'm sure you get matches on tinder, it's just not the girls you think you should be getting. So you are angry and bitter. And it probably drives away and prospects you do have.
You don't go out and talk to women, you hide behind a screen and get mad that you aren't getting any results. Or you don't approach because you are so used to women saying no.
We all get it, and it's annoying. The hope is that the insults will cut through and jar you into thinking differently but I guess that is a lost cause. Tough love works for some, it makes other crumble.
All I can say is I know a lot of happy successful men, and none of them are single. They all have built large loving families with women that appreciate them. So I think I'm gonna go with that, and not encourage a bunch of young, sad, confused men to just give up and complain together until they die.
Maybe because your arguments fare weaker? If your logic was more airtight than mine, I would accept it.
I do know the answer and I'm yet to be proven wrong on it. I'm not insulting any women. They are entitled to their choices. Nor have I looked for supermodels. I want someone who is average looking, relatively fit and educated like me. A 5 or 6 in all senses. I've not found that. So I stopped playing.
I've talked to tons of women. Hundreds. All across my Uni. I am the Vice Chair of a large organisation within the Uni so I end up leading many people and talking to more.
You only see the happy, successful men who succumbed to your ideology. Not the ones who kept trying and ended up more hurt and miserable due to the ideology of yours. I see them. You don't.
What arguments have you made? All you have said is that dating has been hard because you are short, so you gave up. And other short men should too.
Are you saying you are really truly happy being alone? That you don't still think about women every day? Jack off to porn with women? Hate them for not liking you? Desire sex from them? Or that it just hurts too much to try and find someone so it's just easier not to?
How exactly does that help others? You had it hard, so it must be the women. Other short men should give up like you.
Please explain your philosophy to me then. How it's so much better?
I've met a lot of people in my life, and maybe about 1% of them are truly happy being single and alone. Most just tell themselves what they need to to get through the day without crying/deleting themselves. Wouldn't say that is a better option.
And no one is going to be able to prove to you that being single your whole life is a mistake. That is something you will have to discover on your deathbed. In a crowded hospital, with no one around that really cares about you, just you happy and alone right?
You sound like an asshole, and I'd say that's why you are single. Not your height. Maybe you could take one piece of advice and stop thinking so highly of yourself. Which is kind of ironic considering how short you are (couldn't resist). ;)
I've spent enough time on you. Good luck with the no-women thing. Hope that works out for you.
You proved my point again. No arguments. Just insults and mockery. Good day.
I don't hate women at all. I just don't care anymore. They're fine to be friends with.
I understand how you feel, I'm 5'1 and even a girl I'm constantly made fun of. However with guys, I've always dated men on the shorter side. Infact, none of the guys I have dated have been above 5'8. Being short is something we cannot control just like have a disability is something people cannot control. It's hard for me to do so since my height has always been something I was self conscious about, but embrace it. I know many tall women who love shorter men and there are many women like me who are on the shorter side and like short men.
i've had 2 long term boyfriends that were 5 3 and i'm 5 10... they had personality and both i wanted to dump but they won me over by making me laugh.
Exceptions are not the rule. But that's good to her at least. You shouldn't have dated them if their personalities were terrible though :)
you misunderstood probably because you may not know how to read
You dumped them in the end anyway :)
She gives a good example. Height only matters as much as you want it to. If you’re looking for proof that girls don’t like short guys you’ll always find it because of your mindset. A woman told you that she was won over by other characteristics and you still believe height is the end all be all. The reality is no one cares about it as much as you do. Learn the female mind, ask your female friends about what makes a man attractive.
I did not deny that are aren't exceptions. It really isn't the rule. 90% of women with genuine options wouldn't date short men. Every scientific study ever proves that theory. It's common sense.
I don't know what you want to do, dude. Worrying about height is corny, build up your self esteem maybe. There’s a shit ton of other things that are in your control you could do to improve your chances on getting a date. I can say for a fact this little pit of misery you’re going through isn’t the truth. Sounds like your consuming a lot of that pseudoscience, redpill stuff.
My friend. Have you ever asked women if they'd date a man their height or shorter? Do it. I assure you. 90-99% would say no. Straight up. It is a fact. I can either deny that fact and think with a false sense of optimism, or accept the truth.
no one died and the other i'm dating now
I'm happy for you Chrissy. :) Just know that you're a needle in a haystack.
@Pacquet exactly your on the ball... both were funny which helped me relax with them which is very important
@Pacquet i don't believe that either... you might say initially to yourself that but if he's got a personality or makes you laugh or makes you feel relaxed you'll forget his height... both even though were short wanted me to wear miniskirts and high heels anyway.
Not true in most cases Chrissy. Most don't even entertain the prospect of a romantic relationship with someone if they are shorter. You're automatically a nice "friend" who is funny.
You wanted to dump them because they were short?
@Pacquet everything you’ve said is spot on
@chrissykerdock it is very harsh to accept and realise that you are much shorter than a woman. Makes one feel so inferior, insecure and emasculated sissy unmanly realising that you are only upto the ear or shoulders of a woman
@insteadfew i'm a woman 5 10 what are you talking about
I am saying as a short man it really feels bad and sucks to be very much shorter than a woman
@Pacquet what can a woman do.. nothing. 😆
@insteadfew the guys i dated that were 5 3 didn't mind and they both encouraged me to wear heels when i wore a miniskirt.
You already were so taller them , so when you wore heels you might be really TOWERING over them?
@insteadfew 2 1/2 inch heel and i'm 5 10 the point is they encouraged me to wear heels
So then they reached upto your shoulders only?
@insteadfew something like that and they both liked going up my skirt with their hands.
Did you being so so much taller than them made you feel sexier z better and superior to them?
@insteadfew not superior but i liked they were dominant or told me what they wanted and treated me like a woman... i didn't mind getting felt up by them... and i never really thought about their height much after the initial reaction... true when you meet someone shorter than you... you recognize it but then personality comes into play... if your short don't think about it so much use your personality charm the girl make her laugh etc
Did it look something like this much difference?
@insteadfew yes very similar
You would have to look so much down to be able to talk to him, did you even feel you were walking and standing with a man?
@insteadfew oh yeah often he held his hand on my ass sometimes over my skirt sometime underneath my skirt... for both
On a global scale the average height of men is 5.9 or 175cm and 5.4 or 162 for female. Not sure if people understand the concept of average when there is about 8 billion people in the world almost. That means there a few billions of men and woman that is shorter then the average. And that my dude means there is a a lot of women out there that is short enough to consider you a tall man compared to themselves. So maybe you should change your demographics and look for a shorter woman, there are tons and tons to pick from and they are equally beautiful.
Yea it disability like dwarfism, it's a flaw, men are taller than women in average, so it weird.
Yup. It is what it is.
I get it. Being short fcking sucks but at the end of the day, we can’t change that, or how the rest of society thinks.
All we can do is become the best version of ourselves and deal with the cards we were dealt.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/KuJMafKvWSIAndrew Tate is 6'3. Just saying. :) He's not lived my life.
He didn’t say anything untruthful though.
It does seem sort of hypocritical coming from him. He's not lived a short man's life. He has no idea how it is. He just rambles on about how it "works" for most men. The average person will never reach that kind of wealth or success he's talking about no matter how hard they try. He's yet another snake oil salesman.
Bullshit. He gives sound advice.
But if you insist on continuing to feel sorry for yourself, just realize nothing’s ever going to change.
Time to man up and just focus on the things you can do instead of being a victim
It's understandable that being shorter than average can be challenging, especially in the dating market where height is often perceived as an attractive feature. However, it's important to remember that height is just one aspect of a person's physical appearance and does not define their worth or value as a person. There are many qualities that make people attractive beyond physical appearance, such as personality, intelligence, sense of humor, and kindness. It's also important to focus on building self-confidence and self-esteem, which can be attractive qualities in themselves. While it may be more difficult to find a partner who is attracted to shorter men, it's not impossible. Remember that everyone has their own preferences and attractions, and there are people out there who will appreciate and value you for who you are, regardless of your height.
What do you think is more negative when it comes to dating?
1) Being short
2) Being short + complaining about being short?
Guys your height CAN get dates. Stop thinking about the ones you don't get and concentrate in the ones you can get.
Yeah and people CAN win the lottery. Right?
Go ahead and keep whining if you don't want to date. Guys your height CAN and DO get dates.
I do want to date someone decent if it was a realistic option. I'm aware that guys my height do get dates. Just like how guys win the lottery. I'm not much of a gambler into something with a very low chance of winning.
The chances are not that low. Not even close. If you are putting in effort and still not getting dates, then something else is going on. You can't do anything about your height, but you might be able to do something about whatever else is the issue.
For the record. I run every other day, I'm not obese, I have a stable job, my own place, I'm an engineer, I've hobbies, I've friends, I'm not that good looking but I am a 4-5. No serious look issues. Average.
I don't know what is wrong but being short will NOT prevent you from getting dates.
Being in engineering doesn't help. I worked in engineering myself. I worked off and on in engineering for over 20 years before I met a women engineer. The only women in those companies was in the front office. Many companies I worked for didn't have any women at all. I also worked in construction. There weren't any women there either.
If you work in a professions like that, you need to find some other place where there are women. Heck, after your degree, keep taking classes. Take a night class a couple nights a week. Take something that women take. Take easy GE classes or something.
I'm in Cyber Sec. I'm also in an organisation with 100s of women. It's not like I don't meet women. I do. And so far, it is my height, as mentioned by several women which got me into the "friend zone" / not dating material. They even said "You are so nice for short guy" and "If you were a bit taller, I'd date you". So like... yeah.
Just keep trying. It's about numbers. It's the same for tall guys. It might be a little easier for them, but it's still about numbers. There is no one in existence who will never get turned down.
Also, try to figure out what else is a problem. Because your height absolutely positively will not prevent you from getting dates. All it does is reduce the field, but there are still plenty of women who would date someone your height.
Well... I've not met any in my Uni nor at work, nor my company nor outside. Honestly, at this point... I have just accepted my fate lol. Note: I've met a few willing to have casual sex. But that's it. I didn't have sex with them though.
Why didn't you have sex with them?
Because I want to do it in a committed relationship. Not casually
OK, fair enough.
I think you are way too young to "accept your fate". I don't think there is any age that a person should give up. But I do think there is a point where they should stop placing so much priority on relationships, and concentrate on all the other aspects of life.
Relationships are nice, but certainly don't make or break a persons life and happiness. However you are still young. I don't think are even close to an age that you should just forget about the whole thing.
Your situation is probably not as rare as you think. People tend to notice others in relationships, but don't notice the ones who aren't. It's not at all unusual to have a first relationship at an older age than you. But you DO need to be around women in the first place. There are lots of ways to do that. Then once you are around women, you need to know how to talk to them. Forget about dates, just learnt to hold a good conversation.
I have several female friends and we have convos very often. So it's not like I can't talk to women. And yes, that's what I said from the beginning. To forget dating and focus on other aspects of life.
Being tall ain't a relief. You never know whether a woman loves you or your tallness. Its like girls who have big tits never know whether they are loved for real or loved only because of her big boobs.
I mean... people like others for their features. At least they get people to like them. Something is better than nothing. Besides, for most women, to be even considered as a potential mate, you have to meet a certain height. So I don't think you should feel bad :)
Yeah, but there, girls usually like you for your money. That's even worse, is it not?
Guess we all have it hard to an extent.
It’s OK for a guy to be shorter than his lass. Height ain’t a quality, or if it is, a very poor one. If You’re still troubled, go to Indonesia, land of shorties. There are many lasses shorter than You.
I guess that's a realistic option. Then those from the west whine that you are dating from outside and you are dating down/golddiggers.
Date no golddiggers. Date the true lasses. Drew Binsky from Arizona fell in love with a Filipina. You may find a good lass anywhere.
Fair enough. Might consider that. :)
I am short.
I don't think about it and never did and never had a problem (that I was aware of).
I want to be with a woman who likes me. It's obvious that I am short so that's the first thing she'd notice and, if she likes me regardless, then it's irrelevant. Then I can consider dating her.
My friend is like 5'5" or 5'6" and the guy can get pretty much get any girl he wants.
He's not even that good looking, he just exudes masculinity and confidence, and makes them laugh. Women fucking love him.
Without his uncanny ability to make seemingly every girl on earth fall head over heels for him, he probably wouldn't get many girls. Your personality and self image are everything. Not your height
What you deliberate over becomes your reality. In other words if you focus on your height it’s going to be the thing you’re drawing attention towards. If you need something to focus on whilst dating focus on entertaining yourself, for example ask your date questions that you think are funny or about topics you’re passionate about.
That is... if you can get a genuine date. Right? 😅
I can tell you focusing on your height isn’t going to get you any closer to a date. This advice isn’t exclusive to dates either, it’s for interactions in general. I have a feeling you’re putting unnecessary pressure on yourself and it reveals itself in your behavior and possibly as desperation. Women hate desperation and they can smell it a mile away.
Oh I'm far from desperate now. I just don't care anymore. I've turned myself off to a great extent 😅
Thanks. You too.
Well yeah if you are 5"4 going for a tall girl like 5"6 then you will have difficulties it's not impossible. But if you go for a girl 5"4 or shorter then you will have more success. The only problem with short guys is that "being short" is their only personality trait...
Most women are 5'4 and below. But most of them won't date me lol. And I don't what you mean by being short is my personality trait. I worked pretty hard to move forward with a lot of setbacks and kept getting screwed so... yeah.
How tall are you?
@Asker your height might not be the reason they won’t date you
@sunflower00 height does matter especially of a man
@insteadfew it genuinely doesn’t matter much to most women, I mean the issue might be his attitude. I’ve been attracted to short guys, the most beautiful girl I know is with a shorter guy. My friends prefer guys around their height or slightly taller. His attitude is probably what’s turning people off
@sunflower00 how tall are you? And how tall are your friends who prefer guys their height or just taller?
@insteadfew I’m 5’4, my friends are 5’4, 5’5, 5’6, 5’2
@sunflower00 ah ok. So what height does this 5'5-5'6 friends prefer?
@insteadfew like I said, around their height or slightly taller. Like 5’5 - 5’10
@sunflower00 5'10 would be decent tall for a man anyway and decent taller than someone who is 5'5
You are 5'4 , would you be absolutely comfortable with a man that's just 5'5?
Work on personality and ability. Will power can overcome so many things. So if you think that being short is something of an issue realize what people enjoy and respect in people below the surface. Maybe find that in Yourself and work towards being someone who you respect and admire for what’s inside.
My dad is only five feet, six inches and he's had roughly ten long term relationships, the shortest one being roughly two years when he was stationed in 1980s West Germany before the wall fell. Like another user said, try not to let it get to you.
You're lamenting 5' 4"
Karina Lemos is 4' 3"
When life throws you lemons, make some lemonade.
Guys are much less forgiving about a woman's height. So... yeah. This line of argument is weak.
True. It's best for you to just complain and hope that line of argument solves your dilemma.
I don't think it will solve anything. This issue exists. All I can do is just forget it and forget dating.
Height isn't important for a female.. so...
@insteadfew
So why post questions about it?
You misunderstood what i said. I meant being a short woman isn't a problem , but being somewhat below average or much shorter as a man IS problematic
@insteadfew
I understood it. So why talk about it on this site?
Then where to talk? On medical College website?
@insteadfew
Talking won't change anything.
Then what to do
It doesn't seem to harm many other shorter guys. I know two guys that I can think of that around your height or shorter, and they have attractive girlfriends.
m Do you really think Tom Cruise has a hard time getting a date? Like why did you go with that picture?
Well, take away his cinema background and wealth, and he absolutely would have a hard time getting a date :)
Now you are just projecting.
Tom is handsome and rich.. so...
Theirs lots of short girls in the world, so stay positive.
Even they usually tend to prefer taller men. It is a dealbreaker for most women. So the likelihood of me finding someone is slim unless I go for someone disabled or something like that. So it is what it is :)
I'm 4'11, I don't care about my boyfriend's height as long as he doesn't care about mine
ok. As a 5'1 girl any guy taller than me is attractive. But if a guy is smaller than me it would be nice because he can wear the girls sweatshirts
Most people have challenges. I'm 10" taller than you but I have an almost NPC face than blends into a crowd.
Right. But you'd still stand out merely due to your height so with some work you'd be fine. No matter how hard I work, my chances remain pretty slim.
One of my friends is 5'4 and average looking. His girlfriend is 5'11 and stunning. His secret? He's funny. That's it.
Exceptions are not the rule.
But apparently a defeatist attitude is.
What’s interesting is even I’m considered short at times because women want guys that are 6 feet and over but I am 5 foot 10
With confidence. I am not six foot but I approached a girl taller than me and she's still with me.
Yeah it’s fair. I wonder tho who’s more left out, you or some flat chested chick? There’s lots of superficial aholes, don’t be one of them.
I think it can be a little awkward but it’s a good filter to see if the person likes you for you or your physique!
I don't want that filter lol. It sounds all good when you say it like that but honestly. 90% of women don't want you straight up. Haha. Others often feel like they are settling.
How tall are you
I never heard of this short guy thing until I came on this site lol
by the way it's not a disability being short...
You're not short are you?
No I'm not..
Makes sense why then :)
I'm sorry being short is not a disability..
by the way just because a guy is tall doesn't mean girls like him.. I may be tall but I'm below average on looks so it is very difficult for me to attract women.
That's fine dude. If you are tall and are average looking, work out and become stable. You'll definitely attract girls.
Reread... I said below average.
By definition, if you're tall, unless you have serious facial deformity, you are not below average.
Sorry I don't think that is true.. height has nothing to do with looks. . Looks are a completely separate think and is the main thing girls go for..
I disagree. Tons of ugly tall guys can get girls. Good looking short me still struggle.
That's not what I have seen over the years. I guess we will have to agree to disagree
Anne Bancroft married Mel Brooks.
Right. Celebrities are really not a good example.
So you don't get women at all?
Are most women taller than you?
I feel sorry for you dude.
Is this lamentation
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