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This is something that butthurt boys ask when they haven't had any success with romantic endeavors. You want to blame someone else instead of yourself so it's social media, women's unrealistic expectations, or something else. . . anything else except looking at that YOU have done - or not done - that has caused you to experience a lack of success.
Go to the nearest mall, find a busy corridor, and sit your ass down for awhile. Watch the couples that stroll by. Do they all look like Hollywood movie stars? Hell, no! There are tons of men and women out there who are average and enjoying dating, finding long term partners, settling down, getting married, etc. If that is what you want. . . I don't know what you need to do to fix yourself, but I do know that blaming women and blaming social media won't change anything for you.
There are not tons of average men dating but a lot of average women are. The majority of guys who are above average & would be a model or Hollywood star in their current youth.
Married people seem to look down on single people. As if itโs easy if youโre just nice to everyone. ๐คฃ
Excuse me for trying to away your excuse.
@OlderAndWiser Lol, isn't odd how people like to reframe every argument to make men the bad guy? The asker is asking a very sensible question, yet like many instead of addressing it w/ maturity you attempt to use standard female shaming tactics. He never blamed anyone, he's simply asking about a projection based on today's current climate. On top of that you add in parts that were never asked, he never claimed that the couples consisted of Hollywood movie stars simply that the average man may have a tougher time if trends continue in their current direction.
@Vegasrunner The only "evidence" for this trend is people's opinions, based largely on what they read on the internet. And what gets posted on the net is the rumblings of discontents. The guys who are successfully dating don't waste their time posting something about how happy they are; they just go out and enjoy their lives.
And, yes, if average men are "deemed undesirable," who is it that is doing that deeming? Women, of course! So it is disingenuous to say that no one is being blamed.
@OlderAndWiser Difference being when a man provides his "opinion" people come out of the woodwork to shame him if it doesn't make women feel good while a woman's opinion no matter how incorrect or delusional is supported. They guts dating part is exactly why I post on this app and why people try to shame men, I've personally been w/ nearly 400 women in my life there are very few men alive that have been w/ more than me. The reason people like to make the ridiculous claim that "successful guys don't waste time..." is because it limits the readers to believe that anyone presenting an opposing POV must be unsuccessful. Are you making the claim that every woman on GAG is unsuccessful?
@Vegasrunner
1. "a woman's opinion no matter how incorrect or delusional is supported." WRONG! If a woman is batshit crazy - and quite a few are - I will tell her about it. I treat women well as long as they treat me well, but I don't think they are infallible goddesses!
2. "successful guys don't waste time..." I have NEVER said that. In fact, what I have said is that you've gotta take a chance if you wanna find romance, meaning you must risk some rejections and keep asking for dates. Dating is a numbers game; ask enough women, and you get a date. . . unless you have two noses or something weird.
3. "Are you making the claim that every woman on GAG is unsuccessful?" I assume you are talking about success in romantic endeavors. No, there are many women on this site who have dated many men, are in happy relationships now, or they are confident that the next candidate will present himself when she is receptive. There are women on this site who have moderate success. And there are some women on this site who fail in pursuing romance and they are lonely and a few seem rather desperate.
Life is not so simple as "all women do _____" or "all women think _____" or anything else like that.
@OlderAndWiser Provide one post on GAG where you responded to a delusional female by telling her she was crazy.
2. "The guys who are successful don't waste time posting about how happy they are" These are your words so not sure what you're talking about.
3. Sense you said Successful people don't waste time posting, then does that mean every woman posting on GAG is unsuccessful?
@Vegasrunner I don't keep a log of my responses but I responded earlier today to a woman who I thought had her head up her butt:
How do I tell my husband that the little human growing inside me is not his? โ
Your statement: "The reason people like to make the ridiculous claim that "successful guys don't waste time..."
My actual statement: "The guys who are successfully dating don't waste their time posting something about how happy they are"
Deliberately misquoting me means that you have been disqualified.
average men aren't deemed undersirable etc by most women, cause most women are also average. pretty much every average dude has fucked & dated multiple girls, being average doesn't make you an incel. if you're 'average' and can't get laid, you're probably a little worse than average... or your personality/behavior is repulsive or keeps you from opportunities to get women (like if you stay locked at home all the time and never socialize which is common with incels). social media has no influence on the average dude's chances. cause those super hot dudes that according to guys like you fuck all the women, only fuck hot women not average ones (and hot women only fuck hot men too. hot only goes with hot). men are also exposed everyday to super hot girls on social media, pornhub etc but they still fuck and date their equals in terms of looks. it has no effect. stop blaming dumb things for your inability to get pussy. it's all on you, like it's your own fault. that's the truth
They **** anything they find attractive they don't have to be extremely hot. Hot won't always go with hot, the average woman who does an ons will think she is entitled to one nowadays , the media encourages that notion.
Furthermore encourages hate between the sexes and prompting more incels behavior & misandrinst/ misogyny behavior. & Yet no one higher up in society wants to eradicate these issues because they're so far up their arse.
I have never met an average man. It's statistics term. Such a man doesn't exist.
We are different and every person is unique and offers something great. A lot of people don't accept themselves and even more don't love themselves. And self-acceptance and self-love are a base for the confidence... and people who are naturally confident glow... they don't have to be stunningly beautiful to be visible...
You never encountered me that why you haven't. Then you'd realize average exists.
The only way for this to happen is for the large majority of women to either stay single, or share a small number of men with several other women. Neither of those is going to happen.
All available data shows that average men do get in relationships, and most even get married. Even below average men get in relationships and get married.
It's true that more and more people are single, but it's still a minority. The number who have never been in a relationship is an even smaller minority.
Keep in mind that the more single people there are, the more who are available as potential partners.
If social media continues, it will continue to spread misinformation.
If someone cries that "the sky is falling" and gives up, of course they are less likely to find someone. So stop crying that the sky is falling when it's not.
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We have to remember that most men as well as most women are average. When they're younger the average woman does feel and is made to feel by social media and dating apps that she's more valuable than the average male and swiping patterns on dating apps have shown that the average man is invisible for the average woman. But that's only when they're young. As women age, their sexual market value (SMV) declines firstly from deteriorating youth and looks and comparatively as everyone a new girl turns 18.
Men must now enforce their end of the bargain by first becoming the best version of themselves, by being physically, emotionally and financially fit and using the extended window of attractiveness and fertility that nature gives them by putting competition pressure on women to either be realistic or be denied a long term commitment including marriage.
Such a great question. I think All is to high of a metric but you could make the argument that most will be. Reality is that throughout history only the top 20% men have been successful w/ women. The difference is average women were willing to settle for average men. With social media what has happened is that average woman can now be contacted by exceptional men, which has convinced them that they themselves are exceptional. Since men are only as faithful as their options you coild make the argument that in the next few years you'll see more and more polygamous relationships where the man has 5-20 girls who are faithful to only him. This would leave the average man w/out a woman most of the time.
As I suspected once older was called out on his hypocrisy he took off
Nope. American men (the most common place this type of thing resides) are very highly sought after worldwide and not for money or a green card as the raging feminists claim. Sure some foreign women want that. But most women outside the US love US men because they are unashamedly men they want what they want and don't feel bad about it. US men have a reputation around the world as being among the best men to marry especially for women that want a family and a loving husband. So if guys really want to get a good woman they have basically their pick of countries to go to. This does not go both ways American women do not have a good reputation world wide and there have been attempts by American women to go overseas and most of them have recorded videos of themselves getting absolutely ripped apart by foreign men. Because unsurprisingly to American men it isn't a man problem it is a woman problem despite them constantly blaming us for everything wrong with their lives.
I'm not quite sure why this would be the case. Given that most women want a relationship with a single guy (so generally monogamous) there simply aren't enough "high value" men to absorb all the women, so the average guys can pair up too. It's the same logic the other way too. Women often bemoan the fact that men drool over supermodels (which we do) and conclude that it's "impossible" to get a guy with all those nasty "unrealistic" beauty standards going on. Which is complete bullshit. Because ALL guys who AREN'T Tom Brady or Chris Pine or whatever athlete, movie star or rock god you can think of--they all KNOW they'll never get with the models and are more than happy to pair up with "ordinary" girls.
Just relax, go out and meet people!
They can have the women in their late 30s + that will have almost no options for a relationship.
FYI, there are 100 women for every 90 men in the USA so many women will have to have average of have nobody. Even then, many will still end up with nobody.
Yet another L for social media and the attitudes of those brain washed by it. Such is it with human nature, this could change in a heart beat.
Once people accept the reality - that humans are not meant to live alone, need babies to propagate their society, and need someone with them long term for their emotional, logistical, and financial health.
But until then, you lot are screwed.
Yeah, I'm one of them average men and I love my single life because if you think about coping mechanisms, I always have my daydreams and my beliefs of the after, and I can enjoy what I like in this lifetime even if it's all just coping mechanisms and joy of a cheaper existence without a broad to fund and without golddigers cheaters and other nasty pieces of work 🤮🤢
*golddiggers
No, but some men will continue to believe any old BS that is posted online. I guess they need as many excuses as possible to make up for their failures at relationships.
It's already happening.
Go figure why porn, masturbator toys, anime body pillows and AI girlfriends were made.
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so think logically for a moment. distribution of men and women in every society is roughly 50:50 right? in somme societies it's 1-2% difference to either side but genereally it's 50:50.
so if "all average men are single", what does that logically mean for the women given that distribution of 50:50? that means most women will be single too right? like logically not 100% of women can be with 10% of men. there's not enough men for that to happen.
unless everyone suddenly becomes accepting of polygamy.
No. I do think the average man might sit in front of his computer imaging he is undesirable, though, with no intention of testing that theory, completely content with wallowing in self inflicted grievance until he dies.
Man, the poll options don't even answer the question.
What else should have been added?
Literally the same thing just a different choice of wording?
lady will "settle" when the best are taken
The best never settle anymore it seems.
It really isn't that difficult to find dates. Approach, ask, if she says "No.", go ask another, repeat as necessary.
You must be very attractive physical.
No, I'm average but I am not afraid to keep taking swings. If I swing 100 times and get 5 of 6 hits. my batting average is lower than a guy who goes 1 for 5, but I still have more hits.
This will cause the collapse of civilization, because no man will choose to spend his life doing the dirty, difficult and dangerous jobs that keep society running just so they can die as virgins.
Belief in coping mechanisms and an afterlife potentially, make me happy to be one of those guys will keep paying taxes, earning working hard, and I'll be fine ๐๐
@itsclearlynicholas that's just you. Most guys won't take that deal.
More for me ๐๐
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@itsclearlynicholas more what? Loneliness and failure?
By the way things are going, yeah men will remain single. Marriages will happen less and less and divorces will continue to raise
Yes, but not just men. Women face an increasing shortage of sexually active males.
Men will become women and do a better job. Real women are obsolete.
Yeah, I expect this to continue at least for a couple more generations.
no lol
that's so dramatic
but it is bad
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