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Only low quality people go clubbing. I would change the locks on the doors because if she does that, she just moved out and ended the relationship.
Says the confident secure male... š
Low quality? No. It's just someone in a different stage of life as you. Doesn't make them less than you.
@dustybiker2
I agree with you today.
I would not tolerate a girl who was into clubbing at all.
If you want to act single, be single.
MzAss blocked me šššš
You and me both. It's not behaviour appropriate for someone committed to their partner in a relationship. If they want to go with me, then sure. Ladies night out at a club? Absolutely not.
Exactly.
@KrakenAttackin
@HawkPerception
Very confident, secure statement... It just screams that you trust women
See I can respect this answer.
Is clubbing really acting single? What if someone loves to dance, likes dance music. You're saying going out to the club every few weeks has anything to do with relationship status?
Now if you're talking about someone who's in the club every night, that's another issue entirely. But going clubbing on occasion seems quite fun and energizing.
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Hmm. It depends. I mean... there will always be bachelor parties and such, so pulling this sort of thing off the table completely might make your partner feel trapped and suffocated. But then again, I don't like the type of guys who do have club fever, so it's not really an issue.
I'll share a true story as well: I was in the ladies room at an event at a cultural center. In walks a girl dressed like something out of a music video -- flimsy short dress, no tights, the platform stiletto nightmare, and don't get me started on the hair and made-up face... ooof. Anyway, she was loudly complaining to her guy over the phone that he can't keep calling her every five minutes. She's at the club with the girls and that's the end of the story... Why is he SO insecure about it?
But look... The facts are:
1. She was dressed like a freaking hooker. If her guy saw her leave the house like that... or she posted something on IG etc. ... or her friends were texting their guys who then texted him... he's not completely unjustified in feeling insecure about his gal.
2. He knows she's like this and is with her anyway... If you don't want to worry, make better choices.
3. Calling the cultural center "a club" is an extremely misleading description of a hokey community center with special lighting and a makeshift dance floor set up for the holiday season. She was VERY out of place in her little outfit. The rest of us were in (rather long) gala-style attire, not MTV video attire. She's purposely painting a picture that will mislead her guy...
So she's an attention-seeking sort of gal who thrives off of building drama with her guy. The guy likes the drama otherwise he wouldn't stick around. The OBVIOUS solution to this would have been for him to come with her -- for her to invite him to be with her at this very very bland, run-of-the-mill dinner party so he'd know where she hangs out when she's not with him.
SMH...
Yes , I allow a partner to do whatever she wants to do , I donāt own her whatsoever, so if she likes to go clubbing so be it , I would only be hurt if she never included me to go with her , that would be a red flag for sure , and definitely raise some questions of concern as to why she didnāt want to include me at all. She probably wouldnāt be my girlfriend for much longer if that was the case. If someone is going to cheat , they are going to cheat on you no matter what , you canāt hold someoneās hand at all times , you will never be happy in a relationship if that was the case. Without trust and respect for each other you both have nothing. So if her mission was to go clubbing to cheat on me? , then she isnāt the girl for me period , the other guy can gladly have her cheating ass.
My husband knows he canāt āallowā or ādisallowā me to do anything, but clubs and bars arenāt his thing so I will occasionally go with a friend or relative. Heās mature and secure so itās not a big deal.
So you go to a place where people hookup and he is ok? Sounds rather a cuckold then any maturity. What you cannot meet a friend /relativesomewhere else then in a club?
He can't control you, but he can easily dump you. I would.
I bet your husband is miserable in your marriage.
@KrakenAttackin Ignorance is bliss my guy
@Ariesman81 She doesn't give one shit about his happiness.
You are the one who posted how you are boss of the family, which is a guaranteed recipe for your husband being miserable.
Am I wrong? Is your husband happy?
"Adding value"... Wow, just wow. Poor bastard.
They are children cosplaying at what a authentic mature secure relationship looks like... It's pathetic
@drpepper Well I think I've had enough of your delusional comments. You truly are cuck of the highest tier. Doesn't matter how much a girl sleeps around to you, doesn't matter what they've done in their life. I've been holding back but you have zero logic in any of your opinions. YOU are the pathetic one š
Dumb statement.
You do not allow it because you break up with women who do this.
He moves on from women who have this character.
You do not allow her to be in your life anymore. That is how it is not allowed.
Any woman who wants to dress like that, go out drinking until 2, in an environment where horny men talk to her all night and she may dance with other men.
That is definitely not a woman a wise marry commits to or marries.
Trashy, low quality women desire that.
A wise man
@MzAsh What men are you talking about? You can't speak for us all. I've never been with a girl that likes clubbing other than my first ex in college. My first ex went to a club WITH me (only way I was letting it happen) and started dancing on another guy and I immediately left her. I left the club and didn't look back. She was dead to me.
Men with self respect don't tolerate that behaviour.
@MzAsh Then you clearly miss the point of what a relationship is. There are things you're allowed and not allowed to do in a relationship. Conditions that your partner has. If you choose to go against them, you end up alone to any self respecting person. You're free to cheat or do whatever you want. But you'll find yourself alone. Go be free Free Willy.
Pretty sure the majority of people know what they should and shouldn't be allowed to do in a relationship. Some things don't even need to be said.
Why would any self respecting man want his girlfriend out in an environment where she knows she's likely to get hit on and guys attempting to touch her up. An environment where she knows she might get tipsy or drunk and an accident might happen.
No emotionally intelligent, caring girl that loves her partner would choose to subject herself to that.
You talk as if you are married or have a long term boyfriend.
He sounds foolish. Just your attitude of I will do whatever the hell I want and I do not care about how it affects a marriage or relationship boundaries display toxic feminism tenants that you have apparently taken to heart.
Any wise man would rightly flee from women that display this false doctrine that just doing whatever the hell you want at any time or place is what is best and any relationship, duty, responsibility, commitment can just kiss your ass.
Any woman who would actually commit to a marriage and say to her husband, I do not give a shit if you do not want me going out alone in some sexy, slinky dress, drinking alcohol in some meat market full of player men talking to me and flirting and buying drinks all night is a shit woman and he is just a fool to commit to such trash.
You arrogance and pride at just spouting off about how you just will go clubbing no matter how it affects your marriage just shows you are a shit woman with gutter values. A good woman wouldn't even desire to go clubbing.
Your man is a fool.
Youāre putting a lot in my mouth I never said. In fact, I said that relationships are built on mutually agreed upon terms and conditions. How did you and your ex communicate about the terms and conditions of dancing with other men? Many people are completely ok with that, though some arenāt. So Iām curious how the conversation went before you arrived.
@MzAsh Alright I'll bite. I'm not a controlling guy in any way. But we both KNEW that we would not be okay with each other dancing on others. That's something that MOST people just KNOW in a committed relationship.
When we got to the club, she immediately left me to go dancing, which I was fine with. I started talking to another guy in the meanwhile. Then after some time passed, I noticed her dancing on another guy on the dance floor. Literally grinding against the dude. I walked up a little behind her and watched her continue for a while until her friend that was dancing next to her signaled her that I was watching her. When she noticed that, she pushed the guy off and then told me SHE THOUGHT IT WAS ME. Now why would she say that if she thought it was okay to dance on another guy? Then you know the rest. I said no words. I just left. She knew from my actions it was over. She wants to be Free Willy, she can go for it.
Anyways, your logic baffles me. What kind of reverse logic is "Sounds like she didn't allow you to tell her what to do at the club."?
I'm done talking here.
So in other words, you failed to let her know that dancing with other men is a deal breaker for you? It sucks that this situation hurt you, but many men are ok with that behavior at the club. Like I said, I used to be a led dancer and fire performer at places like this, and itās more common than people realize. That was a conversation that needed to be had between you two before you got there.
@MzAsh I gotta side with @HawkPerception on this one. He gave her freedom and she showed who she was. Sure... it sucks what she did, but he figured out she doesn't respect her man.
Now... if you're saying he should have created boundaries beforehand, I can give some leniency. What @HawkPerception is saying is that he wants a girl who just understands what they are. And I think he's right, y'all know what's acceptable and what's not. So that only leaves one conclusion. She either was testing him or was intentionally creating drama... either way @HawkPerception did the right thing.
Well, that IS what Iām saying: he should have communicated his deal breakers and created those boundaries beforehand. But his attitude about the terms and conditions and how that is communicated, or in his caseā¦ not communicated at all and instead ASSUMEDā¦ is where things went wrong.
@MzAsh The assumption was that she'd be respectful. She wasn't.
And this now goes back to the initial question of allowing your S. O. to club without you. He disallows it. He's creating a boundary now based on past experience. And you have a problem with it. Even though you say he should have done it. So which is it? Are we insecure for not allowing potential disrespectful behavior or are we smart based on past experiences?
That chance? The chance of being with a woman who doesn't know what being respectful means? Cool.
I hope you understand you're advocating for men to create a framework of acceptable behavior, which I agree with. But at the same time you're saying women shouldn't adhere to it.
No, she was just trash.
A commitment worthy woman would never even want to do that.
Her even wanting to do that in the first place is proof she is not worthy of anything but the streets.
And we're saying... if she clubs without you... she's probably a hoe and isn't deserving of a relationship.
You know, a lot of you guys could easily get your way if you learned how to communicate properly. Calling a woman ātrashā or a ho for simply going to a club isnāt a good look. It only makes you look like butthurt prissy pants who thinks you can control her behavior. You canāt. Sheās in control of her life. Youāre not and you never will be. Just get over it.
Ah yes... the insults. I'm not controlling her behavior. I'm setting boundaries. Do with them as you wish.
@Ariesman81
Amen.
Ash is one which is why she's spouting her pro hoe, pro tramp crap.
No one in buying the shit she is shoveling except the hoe crowd... the degenerates.
Congratulations... you've got a pussy. Still not enough to change my mind of how a wife behaves.
āMen arenāt doing that though. They deal with it. Because they donāt have much of a choice otherwise.ā Mzash, this is one reason of many why women have been property for the majority of history across the globe.
I agree with his opinion as well
āAllowā , well !! .. talk about a divisive word that may trigger a few people ! 😆. Should my lady want to go clubbing which I highly doubt , I have no issue with that at all. I would likely playfully mock her a little about it , as she would me as we have that kind of relationship but it would only be because it would be massively out of charachter for both of us to want to go.
Looking back I have never had an issue with a girlfriend going clubbing without me either. Many girls I have been with , they loved to dance and generally have a laugh with their fiends so who am I to try and stop that or control that in any way, although Iām sure some guys and girls might ! , projecting their own fears and insecurities on their partners.
Allow? What's this about "allow?" You're grown ups and aren't welded at the hip, are you? You do things without your partner, don't you? Is that because your partner "allows" you to?
Do you have some kind of mistrust concerning your partner, because it certainly sounds like it.
Coupled people have the same interests they had before they were part of a couple. Maybe your SO wants to club and you want to curl up with Netflix. Everyone needs the freedom to be themselves.
If you can't handle this, you need to examine why this is so and work on trust. Or maybe it's jealousy or both... Both are serious, relationship killing issues. Good luck.
You're being ridiculously assumptive. This question is a general question to see people's opinions. It's not specifically about me ya clown. Not everyone on this app is looking for advice.
Your era is ending, times are changing.
@Oncewildtwiceburned changing to what?
Just saying there's no "allow" in a healthy adult couple. People have different interests tastes, tolerance for going out, hanging out etc... Need to work it out between you.
The stuff about jealousy etc applies generally. Don't assume I'm talking about you unless it applies. Not a clown. I try to give thoughtful answers. Block me if you don't want to hear from me.
@Screenwriter Correct me if I'm wrong but... "Do you have some kind of mistrust concerning your partner, because it certainly sounds like it... If you can't handle this, you need to examine why this is so and work on trust. Or maybe it's jealousy or both... Both are serious, relationship killing issues. Good luck." sounds like it's addressed specifically to me.
If it's not, then maybe try a little harder to write in a way that doesn't address the person, but rather the general question.
And I'm not going to block you because I've found you're one of the few on this app/website that I've enjoyed reading opinions of. You're logical and thoughtful, but this specific opinion did sound like it was attacking me.
Men arenāt putting up with modern western womenās attitudes, the laws are stacked against us.
Sometimes it sounds like the person is asking for themselves. It is difficult to know. What I said was no attack. But I've heard this "should partner allow" statement so much recently, I'm wondering where it's coming from. "Allow" sounds like a person is dealing with a minor child, not an adult who is one's supposed equal.
Rubs me the wrong way!
If you look at the thread on the opinion @molonski2 made, I made my stance on the term there.
Around 40% of people cheat, and clubs are basically meat markets. Listen to bouncers and bar/club staff, and hear what they've seen. Let that one sink in. I personally just take any interest at all in "clubbing" as a massive red flag and wouldn't date anyone who's into that kind of environment. If I was with someone and they went clubbing regularly, I'd leave and find someone else. Clubs aren't fun, unless your idea of fun is necking alcohol in a place too loud to enjoy, with crap music, and jigging around senselessly while being approached by strange men. What kind of mush-brain enjoys that for real? They enjoy validation at best, and the thrill of getting some strange at worst.
Having been involved with clubs and women drinking intoxicating beverages , and other stff , i would say , I don't like the word " allow " , but I would be extremely cautious because I have really seen some " stuff " from those who you may not suspect , people do things that are greatly out of character.
So , anyone who was with me , would be unlikely to want to go alone , and would not be drinking , so I would not say that " I would not allow " , but I'd say , proceed with extreme caution.
The worst of the worst? Women on hens nights with strippers , far worse than men , men are simple , so always , always be hesitant with this.
Everyone is free to make their own choices, but when you're in a relationship, there are conditions that your partner has for your and it goes both ways. Thus the term "allowed". It is not an oppressive term.
So they tell you you're not allowed to fuck others while you're in a relationship, you'll do the opposite?
Man I'm just being real with you... you're lacking logic
The word implies one has the authority to permit or disallow their partner to do something, and fact is they donāt have that authority. Anyone is allowed to go the club if they want to. And if you donāt like that, thatās fine, but you donāt get to keep them from going if they want to go. All you can do is either be mad about it or leave the relationship.
I was security at a club, and while most of the women seem to be chill, and looked really good, I realized that I wouldn't date any of them.. A lot just got really drunk, and a bit flirty and touchy.. So nah..
Yup accurate. It's one of the least attractive activities or events a girl can go to
100% Agree.. Especially if she is a bad drunk.. Lol..
If I can't trust him enough to go out with some friends to a club then there's something fundamentally wrong with our relationship. This has nothing to do with getting permission and if a guy thinks he can prohibit me from going then we won't be together for long. I would always ask him to join and if he doesn't like that's up to him
Allow?
I do not own them. If they fall out of love with me nothing will change that. And attaching a collar to their neck would only push them away.
Question here is would I want to be with someone who likes clubbing? What are the details of the situation? Details matter. If it's a strip club for a Bachelor party go have fun, get all sex up and come home to me with that energy.
*sexed
I do not go to dance clubs and will not date or marry a woman that does. I don't know how it works at dance clubs in other countries or parts of this country, but here in Southern California guys go to dance clubs to rub their dicks on drunk sluts asses.
I love the answers :D
"Ofcourse i can go with friends to a club, my man can't stop me, otherwise he is insecure controlling freak"
Man wants to go to club
"No my mant can't go to club i dont trust those women in the club. No im not insecure!!! :O "
He's a magnet for attraction.
Honestly, I would mind and he knows it that I would.
Still, I wouldn't stop him if he wanted to.
Usually, we'd go clubbing together.
Not a fan of it. Wouldn't prefer to be with someone who's into clubbing.
I would. And as I love to dance I would hope he let's me too. But it would be even better to go together.
Honestly.. if I love my partner I'd prob spend the whole time thinking about him and texting him anyways.
I would love for her to go. And she does. However we have a different kind of marriage than most bc she goes home with other men to alleviate the sexual frustration I cause on her. But I donāt have a choice but to let her bc I am so lucky to be married to a woman so beautiful and perfect. I couldnāt live without her. Iām just not allowed sex with her but Iām fine with that.
Your name speaks volumes š
Oh yeah.. crap
That was my wife. She signed me up so not my fault!
You trolling me? š
Yeah, no problem. She can go clubbing as much as she likes.
I did this many times. A group of drunk hot chicks is better than tumbling around with drunken boyfriend who is a 1,90 handball player and wants to beat sh... out of any one
No.
I would not have kept dating a girl who wanted to go club while in a relationship.
That isn't long term girlfriend or wife values and character.
Do whatever you phooking want. I'm not obligated to hold anyones hand like a toddler.
Be a grown up and suffer the grown up consequences. Like everyone else. If I can't trust you, you are by default a lost cause
No. Her, I trust... it's the other drunk men that I don't. She's not going anywhere where there's gonna be alcohol without me.
No, ... of course I trust him, but where is the guarantee that being drunk he will not agree to a blowjob in the toilet from some bitch?
of course. because if she's not loyal, i don't want her as my partner. and if she's loyal, she won't do anything i don't want at a club. so i can't lose by letting her go to the club.
No what the fuck. I would imagine all the guys trying to hit on her, and I would not think she would be upset about it. Sounds really bad to me if a girlfriend wants to go clubbing without me. I would practically count it as cheating.
If I am dating him, I trust him. He can go if he pleases.
No men are pigs.. I wouldn't date a guy who clubs.
I wish they were goats.
@Allahu_Akbar Maybe if they were they would be more picky about what and who they eat.
Oh, I was only worried about my own sexual satiety.
@Allahu_Akbar Oh I always thought guys who fucked goats would fuck pretty much any farm animals, even pigs lol
That's not kosher though.
@Allahu_Akbar True..
*Rips up the Tomorrowland EDM festival tickets and runs away in tears*
I mean I've passed that stage but absolutely
LOL. My wife has a side guy. I sent them on holiday for New Year
Yes, if I didnāt care about her or the relationship
Women who are drawn to clubbing have a dormant whore in them that will reveal itself under the right situations. So the answer is NO.
You're funny. I like you!
I would I trust her though I would pick on her a little and be like so who were all the Men you were flirting with tonight 🙄lol, She does the same to me so and I'm a smart app lol
I wonāt force her not to but I wouldnāt like that. What is clubbing?
Loud music, People, Alcohol and Drugs
@TheStaleMarshmellow jumping king Neptune! Thatās awful
Aren't clubs for getting dates? Unless u go as a couple it's different
Yes, I am ok with it. Sometimes women need a girls night out.
No, I trust him. I don't trust the other women there.
I would hope he wouldn't want to.
I would, and I do. I trust her.
Yea i m ok with that
You have to have trust in a relationship/.
Hens night out? HAVE FUN!
I don't wanna be bored while she out lol 😭😆
Of course. I trust her.
Yes why not
Bullshit.
Not all women are insecure because they find a good man. Insecure women usually come with bad man. And if you are one of those men, sounds not my problem.
Imagine your man going to a place filled with women who are hotter than you who are playing him with drinks and want to have sex with him. You really think it's ok for him to go without you?
Yeah itās always okay.
Because my man isnāt you š
Imagine have to be insecure among other women just coz you are he hangouts with without you. Itās always better to be a person with heigh Value, than busy with unnecessary things because your insecurities.
Good luck with that.
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