Someone should definitely prioritize home and hands on child rearing. It makes sense to me that women are better aligned for that role since they have to miss time at an away workplace in order to have the baby and recover from childbirth.
But that’s not the only option by any stretch of the imagination. If she makes more and they adopt. Dad can stay home, and he definitely should have that privilege if they both agree on it. Similarly, there are a lot of people who work from home, and some of them make a good living doing so. Even if she gives birth, a woman doesn’t have to take more than a few days off work if the mechanics of her duties are basically clacking away on a keyboard and having telemeetings. Then they can both stay home and she can get back to work while he prioritizes childcare and homemaking.
Way back in the ‘70s, one of the largest polls of its kind indicated that almost 80% of men would gladly take a cut in pay if the family could sustain on it and that meant he could spend more time with his family. The same poll showed that less than ten percent of women would allow their husbands to make that choice.
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I live and work in the US and i can quite easily support a small family that isn’t obsessed with consumerism. More people can that think they can’t because everyone thinks they need a six car garage packed to the hilt with status symbols, big screen TVs, name brand clothes and $500,000 worth of “bling”.
I know a single mother doing a fine job of supporting three kids on less than $70k. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@chazmatazz269
how are the kids gonna pay for college?
how are you ever going to take your kids on vacation?
what if your kid wants a new xbox, laptop, cell phone, new shoes cost almost 100 a pair today.
going to summer camp?
learning to play the piano?
karate classes?
don't forget property taxes, and saving for retirement.
soon, your child will turn 18 and you will need to buy him a new car to DRIVE to college.
@nastyb He is right. Kids are not that expensive to raise. I raised 3. All have Masters in STEM right now. I went to summer camp, my kids went to shorter summer camps as mine was too long. I took my kids on great vacations but Al’s went camping which is cheap, went to State Parks for BBQs and fun, there are a lot of inexpensive things to do.
I didn’t pay too much for college for them with good schools where they could commune which at least half of their education was at schools nearby, they worked for the college which gave them big discounts and left with quality degrees and no debt.
The cost is way overrated and likely meant to scare people off from having kids.
@Jersey2
Summer camp is 2000 per kid. New shoes are 100 per pair. Daycare is 2000 per kid. Driving lessons are 100 for every 1.5 hrs. Tutoring averages about 150 dollars for a 2 hour session.
You didn't pay too much for college? College costs have been INCREASING steadily over the past 20 years. Why do you just assume every kid has a low cost option half an hr away? If this was true, nobody would have any college debt
Sure it was cheap for you when you grew up in the 1990s. But its not cheap anymore now
@Jersey2 @chazmatazz269
I have worked at a law school. 90% of the kids studying to become lawyers come from financially well off families who could afford the tuition. Same for medical school. If your parents can't afford the tuition, you have no hope of becoming a doctor or a lawyer.
Its sickening how some men clearly dont care about their kids' futures at all. Rich parents raise surgeons. Poor parents raise hospital bathroom cleaners.
All you care about is your ego about being the cool king breadwinner while your kids suffer from a lack of a future
You’re a clown, @nastyb! I literally wrote that i know that i can afford a small family because i don’t value any of that garbage you’re obsessed with and believe society owes you. Get the f*ck on. You’re a narcissist. Get over yourself and put people ahead of you for a change. Life is better that way!
@nastyb Where there is a will there is a way. College isn’t necessary anymore to excel. Trades are paying a lot. Once mastered a person can start their own company and make more than a surgeon. Learn AI over 6 months and that is worth a lot and no degree required. Learn at home on YouTube and perhaps create new code with it for an app. Lots can be done without a degree especially in tech.
@Jersey2
What if your child doesn't want to do AI? What if he has no talent in that? What would his other options be? Working at McDonald's on a minimum wage salary struggling to pay rent?
Tell your kid he can't become a doctor to save lives and that if he can't get into AI, he will starve under poverty
Plus you're delusional if you think anyone can simply get into making 300k in AI with just a certificate.
Most of these people developing AI come from ivy league colleges such as MIT, Harvard, princeton.
What are you to say "mom staying home is good for the kids", if u clearly DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR KIDS
@nastyb oh, you’re a communist. I see. There are many people who worked at McDonalds that went in to great things. Years ago I read that 1 in 8 people in the US worked at McDs at one time or another which is probably why Harris said she did but then embarrassingly had nothing to back it up so a lie is presumed.
McDs is good honest work. Some will become managers and some will learn how it works and get their own franchise. Everything requires work, smart ideas and a degree of risk taking to make bigger money. If AI isn’t your thing then find what works for you. But you don’t get to throw rocks at everything because some aren’t up to the challenge or simply are lazy.
@nastyb wow, so quick to judge. My kids, all 3 of them, earn 6 figures. They listened to me and I gave them good advice. But I know there are people doing even better than them with no real formal education. Like a handyman who started flipping houses but ended up keep them and renting them. He was in his late 20s with 93 houses but that was 5 years ago and I am sure he is doing more now. You are so flippant and negative that you will never see and open door. It’s like you hate opportunity.
There is a famous quote Thomas Edison that is perfect for you:
@Jersey2 @Jersey2
Continue lying and making up tales. How many handy men who make 60k a year, have enough money to buy and flip houses? Maybe 1% of them. But you aren't talking about the rest of the 99% of them who can't afford to do so
I know YOU DON'T LOVE YOUR KIDS. PLENTY OF PARENTS DON'T LOVE THEIR KIDS. THEY HAVE KIDS FOR THE WRONG REASONS.
The POSSIBILITY of your children being unable to pay bills DOES NOT SEEM TO SCARE YOU, already shows a lot.
Stay home wives do not better off kids, they just make kids worse off. This is true for the vast majority of families
@nastyb now you just sound stupid. You hate the fact that people can come from nothing, to something big. Like I did. My kids are on their way and are doing great just like many others. Some young people don’t but those are pig headed people who won’t change and think they know best when they don’t. You fall into that category. Whine and complain, we don’t care.
@nastyb in the past it could and was done with McDs. Today, you are right unless there are co-owners. The handyman did it on his own with his wife keeping the books. He bought houses in need of repair, he made them sold the first ones for money. Then started keeping them and renting them. With money flowing in from rentals he bought and repaired additional houses. Smart, resourceful, skilled, hardworking.
I do know of someone who bought a steam cleaner truck. He had experience and his family chipped in to buy him a truck. He did exceptionally well, even better than me and that is saying something.
@Jersey2
Yea you know what? Thats the 1% of handymen who did well in life and did the impossible
Back then during the 1980s, life was MUCH CHEAPER.
The rest of the 99% of poor handymen, you just REFUSE to talk about.
There is no logic to anything you're saying.
And trust me, only a dumb girl who also doesn't care about her kids would want to marry you.
No smart intelligent girl would want you
@nastyb You want to wallow in self pity and assure yourself that no one can make it but a few. It’s just not so but it doesn’t include everyone and by your attitude it certainly has not included you.
And as far as the women go, since my first BJ at 14 through now I have had a girl/woman all but 10 months. It was effortless.
@nastyb I don’t even understand what point I made that set you off on the no kids thing. I speak to my kids like I would anyone. Good advice, mixed with reality and at times a bit of tough love. The world won’t change because they want to hide in their room. I remember my grandmother telling me that “the world needs ditch diggers too so if you want to volunteer, go right ahead”. That was motivating and I won’t for get it. I was in my early teens at best. I understand the world, you don’t evidently.
My oldest right now is in his house with his girlfriend. My middle girl flew out last night with a friend to a concert in another country last night, my youngest was at friends last night and came in very late from friends as we are visiting here for a few days.
@Jersey2
Parents always act in the best interests of their kids
It is incredibly hard to find a parent who wouldn't act in the best interest of their children
Based on your words, i doubt you have kids or if you do, im sure you hate every one of them. And im 100% confident you barely lifted a finger to ever care for them
Honestly? Being dead serious, I would want a woman who just has a part time job while I bring in the main money. But in today's world it's next to impossible for the vast majority of couples to have one person being just the breadwinner, for financial/economical reasons. Our world is increasingly costly, and gets worse when you have kids.
Despite the way some very progressive or feminist people think, the world isn't really supposed to run on both partners working, but it's impossible to change that now. Men are largely supposed to be the laborers while women take care of the home and make sure their kids are staying out of mess and being properly taken care of. But instead today, we have families where both people are caught up in working, ambition, scrolling social media, messing around with other people, and are not correctly doing their job as parents. Hell, half of them don't even know or like their own kids and partners anyway. COVID showed us that during lockdown.
I don't believe a woman should never be able to work or do things she wants, just moving along in a miserable, controlled life, no. And I don't even fully believe in a woman only being a housewife either. So I would be okay with her having her own little business or working a part-time job, and I don't care where either. But I think that would bring more of a balance than both of us slaving away in the work world.
Personally on today’s day and age a working partner just makes more sense, HOWEVER, we have the benefit of remote working, which makes co-parenting and dual-income households a more synergistic and healthy reality than it was in prior generations.
HAVING SAID THIS, some people don’t WANT this… so know your partner in advance and BE HONEST with each other from Day1 about what you want in a relationship. If it’s Senario 1 (~1400s-1950s vision) then ok go with it; if it’s Senario 2 (~1960s-present vision) then go ahead.
I prefer staying home and having a provider man. It just makes the most sense especially when having kids
@Apple1996
child support, a tiny bit of alimony won't be enough for 6 kids.
you have no idea how expensive things are because you never paid a bill in your life
@Apple1996
you can't manage finances if you aren't the one earning the money.
imagine working your ass off all week and at the end of the day, you still don't have enough.
this is drastically different just sitting around the house and using someone else's credit card to pay for all your expenses
@Apple1996
he knows what kinda bills you have.
but what I'm saying is... you won't understand the feeling of working your ass all week and still have not enough unless you've worked yourself.
spending someone else's money is easy.
spending your own hard earned money isn't.
@Apple1996
I don't consider stay home mom to be a job. There are plenty of people who work 2 jobs to stay afloat.
@Apple1996
stay home mom is the only job where you get to ignore your kids while you take your nap. Its the only job where you can go out for ice cream in your car. so why are you complaining?
im sure you put your baby down.
and when your husband comes home, im sure he helps you with the kids
@nastyb if I ignored my kids for a nap theyd probably die. Thatd be extremely irresponsible parenting. I've never eaten ice cream in my car either
Wtf no im pregnant... the baby littterally cannot be taken out of my body to be put down
My husband is away for work so no he's not home to help with the kids
I'm sure you ignored your kid at some point. No one can fulfill their child's every need 24/7. Especially 6 children. If you have that many kids, your kids won't receive your full attention and chances are you won't be there for them at some point. Its impossible to tend to 3 kids all at once. Or even tend to 2 kids all at once.
You're allowed to leave your house a mess. You're allowed to nap. You're allowed to go get ice cream or go to have fun at a museum with your kids as a stay home mom.
Don't think you can do the same when you are working. Your boss will fire you for leaving things a mess, not cleaning up after yourself, leaving the building for an ice cream or not replying to an email on time.
@nastyb girl i dont know why you think stay at home moms have free time to nap lol my day is full of responsibilities. I have school drop offs, meetings, appointments, therapies, my 4th son has a teacher who comes to the house for one on one pre k. Most moms can barely find time to use the bathroom. Over the summer I got 2 UTIs because I was so busy with my kids that I couldnt pee when I needed to. At a job you get breaks, lunch, time off. Its not even comparable tbh because being a mom is much more difficult and time consuming. There might be moms who ignore there kids just like there are people who half ass their job everyday but good moms are not doing that. At least for my kids especially my 1 and 2 year old if I wasn't watching them theyd be falling down the stairs or running away down the street
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I prefer a working partner mainly because the both of us can live comfortably by putting our money together to pay bills etc to have each others’ backs because not all jobs last forever , so it’s best to have 2 incomes just in case one of us loses our job and trying to land Another one. With the cost of things today and how shitty our economy is , it’s better to have 2 incomes instead of one, unless I was a millionaire then that be a different story , mainly because her and I would t have to work at all lol
I believe in a mix, which is what my then-wife and I did, successfully, when raising a family.
She and I originally both worked. Then, when our son was born, she stopped working and became a stay-at-home mom, while I worked full-time and was the breadwinner for the family. She stayed that way (tried a few short work-from-home things) until our kids were old enough to be on their own when getting home from school, at which time she started to work part-time. When our kids were off at college, away from home, she went back to work full-time.
I think it's a mix of whatever the woman prefers and whatever the man can afford.
If the woman wants to be a stay at home wife and the man can afford it and is happy to provide, I see nothing wrong with that.
If the woman wants to be a stay at home wife, but the man can afford to provide, but doesn't want to, then they might not have the same vision.
If the woman wants to be a stay at home wife and the man can't afford to provide, then either she has to learn to be okay with that and work or they aren't compatible.
If the woman wants to work, then she should be allowed to work, regardless of if the man makes enough for the both of them or not.
It's a case by case scenario. The fact is that it's extremely hard to provide for a family with solo income these days, so unless you're in the upper percentile of income, it's not happening. It's a luxury nowadays.
Every woman and man is different it’s all about finding out what works best for YOU… What’s right for one couple isn’t necessarily right for another. It’s called compatibility.
People who try to make others feel bad for what they choose are people unhappy with their own lives…. Whether it’s shaming housewives or shaming working women.
@cora1 HOWEVER…. It’s typically women who are frankly lazy who have a chip on their shoulder against men who are begging to be housewives because they think it will be easy or stay at home moms.
Once it’s not the easy ride these narcissists think it will be they become jaded and angry. Many times complaining nonstop about getting to stay home.
Women who say they NEED a man aren’t women who genuinely cares for you and loves you for who you are. That’s cold but it’s true. They love how you can make them feel, love what you provide for them, but don’t bring anything to the table and will eventually become disappointed with you because their expectations are unreasonable and unrealistic.
In an ideal world, yes. But the reality is in this economy both people in the household have to work. A man's income is just not enough in many households.
Depends on the family
in my case I don’t want kids so I would rather work
I am a housewife. I welcome my husband at the door, I see him, I do nice things for him, and I spend time at home. Of course, everyone can do as they wish. If we were in a situation where we might become homeless, I would work too, but thankfully we’re fine. In the Quran, a man is responsible for providing for his wife. Whether a woman works or not is up to her. But being stuck in the system, working like a slave, filling every hour with people—being at home with your child and family is, in my opinion, the most special thing.
There is no should or shouldn't. It's up to each individual couple.
My wife had a career when we met. She enjoyed her job as a hair and makeup artist. She was also a professional photographer. She had been supporting herself since high school.
I had a decent paying job with fantastic benefits.
Our combined incomes allowed us to buy a wonderful home. Now that I'm retired, my Social Security and pension, combined with her Social Security and income from continuing to work part time, pays our bills and allows us to have fun.
Kids were never an issue for us because I didn't want any. My wife got pregnant twice after we got married but had miscarriages both times. So she decided that we weren't meant to have kids.
Over the years, we have talked about it and she is now glad that we don't have kids.
I prefer to see my girlfriend as an equal... she can do what she wants to and I can do what I want to. Thing Is someone still has to do the things we both don't want to do... so we both do things we want to and don't want to. It's unspoken that she is better with the kids. I still try just as much but I really struggle with dirty diapers so she does it for me when she is around because she knows how much I appreciate it. And I do things she doesn't want to like mow. We both wash dishes and do laundry and work. A successful relationship doesn't limit itself with ideas like "should be" a housewife is a housewife cause she wants to be and the man wants to br bread winner that's what they are both best at how they both work best today. Roles can be reversed. What makes is should be is both people function better together because each other. Two incomplete parts to make a whole.
Women don't deserve to be taken care of anymore.
Women should mow the lawn, weedeat, trim trees, wash the cars, etc. while the man gets to do the easy stuff indoors in the comfortable air conditioning. She should pay half the bills too.
Women need to stop being so lazy and worthless like most are now. Even if they make money, the majority of them keep it for themselves so it actually doesn't count for anything in regards to contributing to the relationship. If she works full time, but doesn't pay half the bills, she should do everything around the house because she is contributing nothing else.
Seriously, so many women have very little value at all and only bring more stress, drama, and financial hardship to men's lives.
Housewife for life haha
I respect women who choose to become working ladies as long as they remain feminine but personally i'll only marry a girl who adores becoming a devoted housewife, i work outside and she works inside, all my life i have been attached to traditional values...
This is only a question due to the pill.
Humans crave sex. Young, healthy people want each other sexually. They have sex. Why are we designed to want sex so badly?
TO REPRODUCE AND HAVE BABIES!!! NEW PEOPLE, THE NEXT GENERATIONS.
God designed women to have BABIES. Nature made it so we have sex and babies.
Women should be MOTHERS. That is what women should do.
In my Family I am smart and capable enough to make a slightly higher than the national average salary. But I am completely useless domestically. My wife is is not competent enough to pull a wage worth paying Childcare, house cleaning, and other domestic responsibilities to handle instead. Plus. She is great at domestic responsibilities. I work 50 hours a week at a high stress job to pay 100% of the household bills. All I ask is that I come home and the kids are alive. The house isn't filthy, and I have something to eat. She fails at all of the above. I work from home 2 days a week. All she does is doom scroll youtube videos and waste her easy pampered provided for life. I would kill to import a Ukrainian woman that wants to stay alive and be a house wife.
First of all, everyone is free to live the life they want, if both parties agree.
Personally, I think it's better if the woman works, because it gives her independence. If the woman doesn't work and one day their relationship breaks down, then the woman finds herself in a rather dramatic situation. The opposite is true if it's the man who is dependent on his girlfriend. .
I prefer whatever works. But the truth is these days in the USA, wealth inequality and real income erosion for the middle class and poor pretty much dictates that 2 income households are required for a large segment of the population to survive with a roof over their head and food on the table. Capitalism has been a disaster for 99% of the population. And yet we cling to it like a cult.
I believe it shouldn’t be about women having to be housewives or men having to be breadwinners. What matters most is balance, respect, and choice. Personally, I would prefer a working partner, because then both share the financial responsibility, both remain independent, and neither feels pressured to carry the whole burden alone. It creates more equality, security, and teamwork in the relationship.
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i am against the entire partner thing.
what you refer as ''love'' is something that needs to come and go before it turns into a lame excuse for a situationship.
no one should be the breadwinner.
but 50/50 is equally stupid.
my 2 cent? marry 2 woman if you have to (bi ones if possible) one housewife and one working.
volla, problem solved.
I prefer a modern marriage where both people work. It's more equitable and it reflects reality. In the past, it was often practical. But now, a woman's work is just as important as a man's. Her work in the world, in her career and her development, is just as essential as his. A partnership where both are contributing their unique talents and energies is the healthiest foundation for a family.
I think it's simpler if the woman takes care of the children, at least when they are young.
Nevertheless it is important for her to be employable if needed, so she doesn't have a hard dependency on the man if circumstances change.
Anyway choosing a partner is one of the most important decisions in life.
Neither. Life is more complex than that.
Sometimes you can have one working, sometimes both, sometimes neither. This isn't some romcom, and life is there to be lived; not to fit a mold that gives no real fuck about you.
You don't get a government bailout because you've got yourself a male breadwinner and trad wife. Nor do you get a bail in because you've got the opposite.
I'd prefer somewhere between the two actually. Pre WW2 housewifery was a full time job but with hard surfaces, modern washing machines & dryers, ovens that know how to cook it just isn't any more.
So I take an idle hands view on one side but also see an unstressed wife as being a positive.
My pick is therefore a part time job where it doesn't matter much if she doesn't turn up.
Housewife, EXCEPT: Women should mostly go into medical, techs, nursing, therapies. They can drop out to raise a family and then reboot, if times get tough or after the kids are grown and out. Other professionals are less suited to family life. I was raised exactly like that.
I'm not chancing cramp
Set up passive income for me if im a house wife or I'm working, but don't ask for kids and we're gonna equally cook and clean
If someone doesn't feel like cooking don't get upset fix it yourself, for cleaning you better do it your next day off unless you're sick.
It's never 50/50 if someone barely does the work around the house
I wouldn’t mind staying home. I prefer someone that works.
@mysteriousNicholas yes after all chores don’t take too long ☺️
Or actually , can't they get it right the first time 🤗 I for one have held out this long because I'm picky 😆 and phimosis
Because of the stress and separation that comes from assigned roles, it causes a relationship/ marriage to become unstable. If both do the housework together, use their own funds to give eachother gifts, and have their own incomes, neither feels used or exploited.
Depends on the family, just let them to be what they want. Personally i prefer to be housewife who just cook for my husband, taking care of my little family, go to gym, salon and shopping.
I can't stand the idea of a woman that is my subordinate and dependent on me. What am I even getting in that relationship? It's almost like taking care of an adult size child.
The cost of living has risen dramatically. For many families, it's financially necessary for both partners to work.
It depends. I like that I'm a house husband and she works right now. earlier in life I'd want to work.
I would rather die than become financially depended on a man. That sounds like a nightmare to me.
I absolutely believe women should be in the home. I don't approve of having other people raise your children. If I were married I would want to quit my job.
I just want ‘her’ whatever keeps her happy. Whether this is her being a housewife, volunteering, or choosing to work. Whatever I am perfectly okay with.
I think the priority role for a woman is to look out for the house first, but I have zero problem if a woman wants to work having her career if she chooses to as long she doesn't neglect her duties of the managing the household.
In a ideal world a housewife would be nice if I was making enough money to make that finically viable. But if I'm not then a working partner.
Hell no, especially if the women makes more than the man. I’m not sure why dudes want a house wife, more so they want someone to clean up after them like a baby while they go make tiny man money.
Whatever works for the couple. I'd personally be open to either. If children came into the picture, I think it is important both parties are involved in their lives.
i mean i think the modern day economic environment pretty much makes that impossible to anyone but the top 10% earners.
I don't generalize something that is personal to other couples that has nothing to do with me. I have living to do.
Hard to get by these days with that arrangement, unless he has a really good job, or bought bitcoin back when I should have...
I think women should work until they have kids, then stay home with the children until they are old enough that they are mostly self-sufficient. High school, if possible.
I come from a big family. I have 4 sisters and 3 brothers, and I am the youngest. All but 2 of my siblings are married and have kids. One sister and one sister-in-law have been home full time with their kids since birth, but the others have had to work since shortly after their kids were born. The difference in cognitive development and emotional maturity between the kids with at-home moms and the ones with working moms is stark. The first few years of a child's life are critical in their development. Why squander the opportunity to make the most of it and instead pay someone else, someone who doesn't know and love them the way you do, raise them for you?
Whatever works for them at that time. NUNYA
Most of us Guys prefer to have a mixture of both really, But most Women these days prefer to work so again us Guys don't have much choice.
Should be yes but unfortunately few men make enough money to make that possible
men will have to be the breadwinners regardless but children don't need absent parents
Workin partner because both can make money n it's how it is nowdays.
It depends. I think it depends on what you both want. There's no correct answer.
Third option, it should be what ever works for the couple.
In my own family, I'm the bread winner.. That may not work for everyone.
I don't have any preferences, either would be good enough for me - If she is my type of girl.
Why not? Back when this was normal, a single income bought a house , a car and a vacation.
I would absolutely love to be a housewife.
I believe working partners are a better option..
Both: I'm lazy :P
It should be a shared responsibility
Wife and I both work
Depends on the couple.
In 1960 yes but not today
Working side by side
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