Yes, definitely possible. she can leave the job for love or marriage. People leave all kinds of lifestyles behind.
however that does not mean every man has to be comfortable with it. I been hitting the strip clubs since I was 18 myself and I still can't see myself committing to a stripper. stripping would be a serious compatibility issue because love and marriage involves values, sexual boundaries, reputation, and future family life.
knowing some men nowadays they most likely will accept that past. Others who have stronger values and standards will see it as a dealbreaker. Both are allowed. What matters is honesty. If a man knows he would resent it later, he should not be a gullible idiot and pretend he's ok.
Wise answer!
If she truly repented of her ways but it wouldn’t be easy. Yes, there are dudes that will marry strippers but are they they kind of men that she would want…… Ehhh I don’t know about that. Some women just burry that and hope her many never finds out about her past.
Wonderful answer!
My aim on GAG is to untangle love, attraction, and red flags with a little sass and a lot of honesty 😉
Yes, she absolutely can. Stripping is a job, not a life sentence. People leave careers for love, kids, health, or just burnout. If she chooses to quit, it has to be for herself, not forced by jealousy or insecurity.
Big green flag: you respect her past and don’t shame her.
Big red flag: you try to “save” her like she’s broken.
I miss @LaurenM1997 when she used to tell you to shut up!
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s I know so, because I've seen it...
a very good friend of mine, who happened to be the leader of a metal band I would sing with, sometimes... his girlfriend was a stripper, lmao
not only they were a couple for years, but also had their kids, got married and all of the things that "a regular normal couple & marriage do"
because of her, I know of two other stripper friends of hers... who also, have "very normal" lives and very happy marriages as well
so, yeah... it is possible
and they didn't exactly "left that life" because of love or marriage, they just moved onto something else more sustainable... as they were also in my college, and both have their own career and businesses as well
They have changed to the better, but in your opinion, do you think that they have left such a job for good or they will be tempted to do it again later in their lives?
they didn't change ANYTHING, other than their jobs
he still has his band... lmao
and I know she still did private shows for her girlfriends...
you see... smarter and better people don't have to worry about what others think or how they judge them either
and their jobs were not bad either, not at all... especially hers, she became the owner of her own club, and he did help with that
if they felt like doing anything they wanted to do, trust me... they would definitely do that and all they want, because they can afford it and also because they were never worried about what the "prude and decent" would say
if they do it or not, will be by choice
True, it's about how they see things, how they were raised and what kind of beliefs they have...
Their ideology, morals and values are different and maybe their upbringing is different too 🤷🏻♂️
not really no... very normal parents they had, both...
and their kids are also very well adjusted, both of them... and as I know them personally, they are GREAT people in all senses too
it's just sometimes that people are way too into stereotypes and automatically assume that "a metal head and a stripper must be damaged people"
lol...
Metal heads aren't damaged people, i'm not saying this because i'm into metal but that's the truth cause it's only a music genre while a stripper is totally different...
yeah... I know how you feel about women in general, lol...
It's not only about women, but everybody else too...
A lot of people are freaks these days, i prefer to stay away from them, sometimes i feel that animals are better, at least you'll be aware who will hurt you and who wouldn't 😏
I would not get that close to just every animal... especially if you don't know them well, lmao
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I heard of a dating coach that is popular on YouTube for her books and courses she was one for 20 years and met her now husband at the club. She has children too now.
That's very nice, it's good to see such women leaving the wrong path for the right path and finding real happiness, safety and love 😊
@tonymetal___86 Do you believe that the men going to these women can ever find true love and marriage?
I have my doubts miss cherry because these women chose such kind of a job, it means that they might not have what it takes to love for real and to consider a marriage a sacred vow...
Maybe i'm wrong, but for sure if they find one, it will be a rare scenario because these days, the majority of men and women wherever they are or whatever they work aren't qualified for real love and real marriage...
Not if that's the only way she can support her family. It's a job for her. It puts a roof over her family and food on the table.
If she wasn't spending the money she makes doing good things for her family and was spending her money all on herself and on drugs, then I would be against it.
I'm against it and would never give an excuse for someone to become a sl*t, it's a matter of pride and dignity, we can work anything else instead of selling ourselves for money!
They may repent for their actions and realize that they were doing the wrong thing but to say that they had to just to eat and pay bills, nope that's a lame excuse!
It's called easy money, when a girl wants to become trash can, she does such jobs because what matters to her is only the money and not her self respect and dignity, also a girl who believes in god knows that such a thing is a sin, she wouldn't do it at all costs!
Yes it's my opinion only and idc if others see it right or wrong, people are free, some may be convinced and some might think the same and others will make fun of it
Absolutely. Might not work out and let's be honest a stripper really only has a career between 18-30. Most will have an only fans and have had sex for money.
I worked as a stripper for a whole among other things. It wasn't going to last forever
Why did you work as a stripper?
Didn't you feel wrong or bad... etc
I didn't feel wrong or bad. I had a great body, great booty and guys loved my boobs and my look and i am a great dancer. Same reason I had an only fans, did prostitution through most of my teens, did sex shows in Amsterdam and did z00 porn in Germany. I made a lot of money. My husband has really good education and makes real good money but I was able to retire last year at 27.
WoW, all these and you didn't feel wrong or bad at all 😳
No not at all. We own our own home outright with no mortgage, I got a college degree out of it. I can be a stay at home mother because of it. When I first got into it my family were facing ending up on the streets.
I understand but you have sold your body and gave it a price, you let anyone with cash have access to see your body and more... etc
Look, it's clear that you're not going to understand me because we have a different background, different morals and values... etc
Let's agree to disagree!
No different than what a professional athlete does
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Yes, but this is specific lifestyle those girls don't want to give up easily. Of course financial aspect matters as well.
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depends on her mentality doesn't it. if she gets a thrill from it, may mis that. If it was just survival, may be glad to leave it.
Wise answer, thanks for sharing 🙂
I don't think it precludes love & marriage as prostitution does. Known one who did.
Realistically it narrows down the pool of men who would be willing to marry and that is pretty small anyway. It is just another criteria in the same way of others. 6 ft plus eliminates 2/3 rds of men. Men who are OK with it, will be a more excluding condition. More men would willing for love & cohabitation.
Adding this criteria could mean it never happens.
So is it after all about if the guy accepts their reality or not?
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Sure, depends more on the individual and less the job itself.
Well said 👍🏻
i'd imagine many strippers are already in relationships , as many are really hot , i doubt some of them are actually single, i'd imagine some have kids too , just cause they work in a club does not mean there single
it actually be easier for someone already in a relationship to be a stripper cause they wouldn't have to worry about picking up at work as they already were taken and just go there to work and look sexy but not actually meet guys for dating or such
But it's not a good thing at all to be a stripper and in a serious relationship and even worse if she's married with kids 🤦🏻♂️
yeah but its a job , they go there work do there thing and go home , some boyfriend's too can deal with it if they know its just a job and not real in the sense that there not actually interested in any of the men there
Maybe it's odd and unacceptable for me but for other guys it's okay 🤷🏻♂️
but its a strip club not real life , they go there to work , maybe they have real friendships with the other girls who work there but the interactions they have with the men are not real , there not interested in them just the money.
I know but it's not a good job, after all she's a stripper 🤦🏻♂️
but half the women under 40 already look like strippers anyways with all there tattoo's and piercings , if she didn't say what she did for work you couldn't tell one apart from the other , i could easily think of all kinds of women here who look like strippers but aren't
I agree with you on this one, especially gen z girls and later generations...
know could list like so many girls here who look like strippers , of course there not but they sure look like em
I actually have met one. She worked out at a gym I used to belong to. She was going to college and she seemed very nice. I was a little surprised when I found out how she earned a living. She got married to a guy that lived in my town.
Do you think that she had left it for good, or one day she'll be back?
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Why does she have to leave it? I know guys who are married to strippers. The guys only work part-time because their wives work 2 or 3 nights a week and bring home $3,000 a week-end just stripping, no funny business.
If they only care about money and both do not have a problem with such kind of job than their free!
I meant to point out, Mr. Tony, that your question is extremely biased and makes assumptions you think are universal, based on your own personal moral beliefs. You presume being a stripper and being in a loving marriage are mutually exclusive, because that's what you believe.
Even when you concede that if the couple involved doesn't have "a problem with (that) KIND of job", you assert that's only the case because they ONLY care about the money. So you start out from the premise that " You can not be in a loving marriage AND be a stripper". My point was to let you know that your premise is not a given fact, it's just a belief.
It is a fact but some people ignores it and some people believes it!
I didn't bring this idea from a personal choice, ask all the people around you and worldwide and you will receive your real answer!
If you're speaking a out a fact, there is no real fact for this, because each person see things differently, you might accept such package while i don't, same as some men accept a woman to be a working wife after marriage, it'a not right and it's not wrong, it's what works best for both and what they believe in!
Now for a stripper, if you want to know from where my values come? It's not only because the majority agrees with me or not, it's about believing in god's teachings, does the bible says that it's okay to work as a stripper? NO!
If you're an atheist, i'm sure that me and you are totally different because you simply don't have the morals and values that i have, for you it's just why not? You only say that it's wrong according to your human instinct and your likes and dislikes... etc
Again Tony, what you're doing is called "conformation bias". You state, search for, interpret, favor and recall information in a way that confirms or support all your prior beliefs, values, or decisions. You also make an incredible amount of assumptions about what goes on in the rest of the world, and then in the next sentence, you state "there is no real fact", or data as I prefer to say, available.
As someone trained in statistics, how you pose your question will determine your results. Your question CLEARLY assumes that a professional stripper CAN NOT love someone, and parlay that love into a marriage. ALL that's required to prove you wrong is ONE instance, and I personally know of THREE. Any reasonable person can extrapolate and imagine how many there are worldwide, and since you don't know, you would be foolish to assume that I personally know of the ONLY three cases on Earth where this is true.
As to your book, where does the Bible address stripping? It doesn't, you just believe it does because you can get ANY meaning for ANY THING you want from it. Religious people always do that, no matter which book you use.
Now here IS a fact you won't, or don't like:
** Atheists don't start wars, "free thinkers" don't start wars; religious fanatics do.
** More blood has been shed on the planet by religious wars in the name of their GOD than any other single reason, including vanity and greed, and anything else you can name.
More facts you won't like:
** The divorce rate of Christians world wide is higher than ANY other religious group **
And I do believe your book had something to say about that, but anywhere from 21% to 45% of Christians, depending on location, do not adhere to it.
Enjoy your morals. I'm not here to dispute them, but be aware of what your bias does to your claims.
You have clearly understand me in the wrong way, i never said that a stripper cannot love or get married, i'm just asking if they are willing to and if they are, is it really what they want or is it because they see some sort of benefits behind it... etc
About my book, what you have stated is true, but you forgot to mention that it's the people who had done this, my book didn't order them to do so, they did the opposite of what the book had mentioned, don't blame the bible because of the people's actions, if these people were truly christians, you'd be living where you are as if you're in heaven, but humans in general intends to hide their filthy and terrible actions behind their false claims, just so that they can get an excuse for their actions and to gather more people on their side under the name of religion, these people are dumb, because when you're s christian, you don't follow the ones who claims to be christians, you just follow Jesus and his teachings and i have never used the words in the bible in a way to twist the facts so they get along with my actions and my ideology...
I'm not a perfect man and i'm sure that there things that i'm doing in my life which contradicts what the bible had taught me but i'll tell you the truth that the bible says that you must do this and that which is the opposite of what i'm doing, unlike others who are weak and wants to twist the holy book's words to get along with what their saying and doing!
Atheists are people, some are good and some are bad, it's not because you're an atheist you're a good person nor because you're a christian you're someone good, well at least if you're q bad atheist i cannot blame you for doing something bad because in general you have no moral code, you just follow the law, but if you're good than you're good!
An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in anything, he is what he is!
Unlike a christian, whom i can blame because you cannot claim that you're a christian and does nothing from god's teachings!
It's like a law book but given to us from god!
We can't perfect but god gave you this ladder even though he knows that you can never reach the top but he show you that you can always become a better person, there is no end for goodness!
You can be whatever you want be, but always remember that you're a human for a reason and you're different for a reason and please don't start lecturing me about evolution and charles darwin because i think thay you know that i'm a man of science as well, just read my profile snd you will take a glimpse of my knowledge until you come back again and ask me: how can you still believe in a god while you're aware of all these facts?
Yes i will always believe in god because i see things differently, i learn because i love to learn and the more i know the more i become closer to god and thank him for the gift that he gave us which is our brain to have knowledge, i don't believe that there's a limited capacity that we can't go beyond, i'm certain that everything can be reachable someday but it takes time and hard work, also to put our hands together so we think as one to achieve the unachievable but sadly people are busy in their greed, wars and power...🤦🏻♂️
An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in anything, he is what he is!
* Wrong. Atheists don't believe in deities. Atheism is the absence of belief in God or God's. That doesn't imply they believe in nothing, except to you.
"It's like a law book but given to us from god!"
That's you BELIEF. That's your BIAS. More than half the people on the planet do NOT believe your book, but you're sure ready to tell them they will burn in hell because of that, aren't you Tony?
Every single thing you've posted is based on your belief. You believe everything in your book is God inspired, or direct from God, and there is no other explanation.
That's confirmation bias Tony.
I'm not going to tell anyone that they are going to burn in hell if they don't believe in god, because i'm the one who will judge them, my rope is to help them and try to save them and show them the right path that's all
Yes an atheist doesn't believe in anything, i meant by it than they don't believe in a supernatural power or a god or any holy book... etc
If i'm a bias than you're bias too, thinking that anyone who has a brain shouldn't believe in god!
Now you will tell me that i believe in fairy tales and fiction books written by ancient men to make an order in the world... etc
As you can see, i can use the same terms with you that you're using with me...
Each person has his own ideology, thoughts and opinions, you have them too and each person on earth have them too, so according to you we are all biased right? 😏
I'm not judging nor forcing you to do or believe in anything, i respect you're freedom, you're you and i'm me that's all...
I'm not going to tell anyone that they are going to burn in hell if they don't believe in god, because i'm the one who will judge them, my rope is to help them and try to save them and show them the right path that's all
Yes an atheist doesn't believe in anything, i meant by it than they don't believe in a supernatural power or a god or any holy book... etc
If i'm a bias than you're bias too, thinking that anyone who has a brain shouldn't believe in god!
Now you will tell me that i believe in fairy tales and fiction books written by ancient men to make an order in the world... etc
As you can see, i can use the same terms with you that you're using with me...
Each person has his own ideology, thoughts and opinions, you have them too and each person on earth have them too, so according to you we are all biased right? 😏
I'm not judging nor forcing you to do or believe in anything, i respect you're freedom, you're you and i'm me that's all...
"I'm not going to tell anyone that they are going to burn in hell if they don't believe in god"
* By "you", I'm referring to your religion as a whole. There are over 200 denominations of Christianity in the USA alone, over 40,000 worldwide! I haven't the time or interest to find out EXACTLY how many of them preach hell fire and brimstone for eternity for non-believers, but I know a ton of them do. That's who I'm referring to.
"Yes an atheist doesn't believe in anything, i meant by it than they don't believe in a supernatural power or a god or any holy book... etc"
* Then say what you mean. Atheists believe in lots of things, just not deities, not any deities.
If i'm a bias than you're bias too, thinking that anyone who has a brain shouldn't believe in god!
* I NEVER once said that, did I? Now if you claimed that I said " Anyone who has a brain shouldn't believe in Trump, or follow him", you'd be correct. I've never said you are brainless for believing in a God. What I HAVE said is I think you have to be brainless to believe EVERY story you've read in your book, and that's because I know some of them are completely fabricated.
"Now you will tell me that i believe in fairy tales and fiction books written by ancient men to make an order in the world."
* As I just said, yes, I believe there are quite a few fairy tales in your book and I know for a fact, beyond just believing, that some of them are indeed. They were inserted by different rulers of the times, and some of them were done specifically to exert control and power. If you DON'T believe that, you'll have to do research on your own. You won't believe ANYTHING someone else tells you.
Each person has his own ideology, thoughts and opinions, you have them too and each person on earth have them too, so according to you we are all biased right?
* Yes, we are all biased, some far more than others, and we all see things through filters, some FAR more than others. Religions ALWAYS present themselves with huge biases and filters, because it makes the world easy and explainable. There have been a few exceptions in history where people of faith, not just Christians, were also visionaries who strove to think without those restrictions. But they were few and far between.
Again you refer to yourself personally as not forcing me to believe or accept anything personally, but many members of your religion are doing exactly that. Legislating things like the posting of the 10 Commandments in classrooms, trying to make Christianity the national religion of the USA,
using Biblical text as justification for legislative acts, etc. ALL of that is FORCING your beliefs on other people.
There's NO respect for freedoms in that. It may be cliche but it's never been more true:
"Freedom of religion also means FREEDOM FROM RELIGION". You personally may not be telling others what to do and how to live, but your brethren definitely are.
Finally you have started to understand me a little and yes i agree with you on some of the things that you have mentioned!
Every human is a sibling to me, not all christians are my people, everyone are my people, but i'm not responsible for their actions and the way they think!
Don't blame me for what other christians are doing, don't look at someone telling you that he's a christian, look at the holy bible's teachings than look at the person to see if he's truly what he's claiming to be...
At least you have a comfort mind as an atheist, do you know how much i struggle everyday to keep my faith, being a man of science with a big knowledge about everything brings a lot of doubts to your head but i always manage to find an explanation to keep my faith, plus i have a feeling inside that makes me attached to Jesus and his teachings and i believe that we have aq soul and that there is an afterlife even if it contradicts my scientific mind!
This damn box is changing my words sometimes and they appear typed falsely 🤦🏻♂️
I already understand the point of "don't tell who you are by what you believe, show me by what you do".
Oh boy... did I say I was an atheist? LOL No, I don't believe so. What I said was I don't believe all the stories in your book.
Do you believe in other books? Or you're agnostic? If you aren't an atheist than what are you 🤔
I'm not going to discuss my spiritual beliefs or knowledge with you here on GAG. What I am is someone who knows that all the stories in your book are not true. Beyond that, what difference does it make?
Nothing, just wanted to know what do you believe in...
In a nutshell, I believe there has to be a creative force in the Universe, and that it in no way resembles the one described in your book or any other books of different religions that I've read. I refuse to believe the creator of all there is everywhere has the kind of traits described in these books, and did the things attributed to it. Better yet, I won't discuss it with you because it's an unprovable belief either way.
It looks like you believe in the god of spinosa (harmony), just like Einstein...
Well at least you believe in something 🤷🏻♂️
I also believe that it's not necessary to think you have all the answers, just like Einstein. Better company to keep, Spinoza and Einstein, than the Evangelicals of today.
That wouldn't be an issue for them, as no one would ever marry them anyway
Even though i'd never marry a stripper, but don't tou think that there are humans too and that they deserve a chance if they are willing to change 🤷🏻♂️
You cannot save a hoe.
Can she meet a guy who'll put a ring on it? yes. Can she play housewife for a little bit? Yes. But the street will always call her back.
She cannot change what she is.
I have heard this a lot, but why do you think so?
Character flaw.
A woman who strips does not truly value herself. You cannot value other people if you cannot even value yourself. She will ALWAYS be doomed to failure in the relationship dept. The question is why? Well that list could be long and wide. I'd have to know her and her past to tell you WHY. But as I said it comes down to self respect. Women who have it do not strip. And women that do not have it do not know how to respect others.
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By and large, people change for their own reasons, not for someone else.
I know, but such people in such jobs, do you think that they will be able to completely leave it?
Definitely. I'm sure it happens all the time.
If it's true, than it's a good thing...
Of course! Have you not seen 'Pretty Woman'?
Julia Roberts gets swept by Dick Gere and lives happily, and very richly, ever after.
Didn't see the movie but for sure have heard the song by rob orbison 🤣🤣
*Roy
Yes hehe
Of course, it happens every day. It's just a job.
Only to the ones who were walking in the dark and now they have repent...
Only to the ones who were walking in the dark and now they saw the light
@tonymetal___86 100% yes they can
I really hope so 😌
Sure but not with someone they know professionally
Why is that?
Sure, but it’s probably rare
Thanks for sharing
You’re welcome
Sure, it's just a job. I don't see why not.
Maybe because they are attached to it and it's easy money 🤷🏻♂️
If they find it hard than better to find a decent job to work in
That's where we must agree to disagree since you find nothing wrong in their job while i find them to be cheap women who had sold their bodies for a couple of bucks and ending up becoming sl*ts
I know but still they are selling their bodies, it's about they do!
It's not a decent job at all...
Well it doesn't have to be like that, if Jesus came to the world and didn't make everyone believe in him, a lot of great people in history couldn't make everyone like them or follow them, who am i to make everyone in the world follow my path and beliefs, i'm thankfuk even if i was the only one who is like that, in the end i'm saving myself and trying to help others, in the end when i stand in front of god, or in front any human being, i'll feel satisfied knowing that i did my best to make this world a better place and to make humans better as living beings... etc
You're saying luckily, as if i was spreading hate and negative vibes 😂
Oh yes, if you're someone who is obsessed eith strippers and going to strip clubs on a daily basis than yes i can understand why you don't like me because if these girls were to change than you won't receive the benefits anymore of if you were a club owner, i'd be bad for business 🤣
i know a hooker that hitched up a client and opened 2 successful brothels
Such things can happen yes
In which place? How's their relationship?
@theskyrider i dont know but the clubs are going strong
Thanks for sharing
I believe it's possible, but very rare.
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u I think they can.
I hope so 👍🏻
I think it's possible.
It is possible but in your opinion, will she ever come back?
Of course.
Thanks for sharing miss yogi 🙂
You're welcome!!🙃
Sure. Why not?
It's because of their lifestyle 🤷🏻♂️
So you think people are defined by their job.
Of course
Absolutely!
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Of course. They’re dancers not sex workers
Still some sort of something sexual 🤷🏻♂️
I want to be naive and say yes.
Why? Any explanation...
Just me being hopeful.
A lot of them are trapped.
And many of them enjoy it as well.
Those who are trapped, will leave for love and marriage.
Those who enjoy it also for a short time but they will probably return to it. Because of the constant attention they get.
I agree 👍🏻
If she's willing to.
True if she's willing to, and if she is, is it truly for love and marriage or there's a hidden agenda behind it 🤷🏻♂️
I believe that most women who choose that type of career only get out of it if they find someone who's willing to give her the life that she wants.
I believe so too
They do what they have to do to make money
As if there is no other job in the world which earns them money 🤦🏻♂️
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