Why do some men say they’re only as faithful as their options?

[Vegasrunner]

[kissmyring]

Because they see women as service providers and want to make she knows that if he cheats it’s her fault for not providing service. A very unpleasant kind of objectification

[Vegasrunner]

@kissmyring I dont understand please elaborate.

[kissmyring]

Which part do you not understand?

[Vegasrunner]

@kissmyring None of it. GAG asked why men exercise sexual options. You told me about blaming women for men "cheating". Are you trying to say men have sex w/ multiple women so they can blame it on the women?

[Just_Ken]

Think the idea is that if they could be balls deep in Sabrina Carpenter they would be.

Personally I've been with a lot of women from my teens until 30. I've made a commitment to my wife and being a man of honour would never break that considering the sacrifices she's made for me and our family, her loyalty, her love and giving me children.

I've turned down more hottest because id rather f*ck my wife, who in well over a decade of marraige has never turned me down once.

Life has been real good this last 10 or more years, I would jeopardise that for any piece of ass.

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken Not sure what this has to do with the question but TY for sharing.

[Just_Ken]

Its in the first line.

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken Gotcha, so you're saying guys stick with one woman because that's all they can get?

[Just_Ken]

Nah. You might marry a 6 or 7 but there's always a 4 looking to get smashed

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken Not really. This is a mistake most women make. Even a 3 or 4 thinks they deserve a top tier man.

[Just_Ken]

Always. I could walk into any club tonight and go home with any woman 7 below guaranteed. Used to be an 8 but I think I've lost a step or two. Last time I was out in a club, I had to get someone to run interference on a 9 who was insisting I go home with her. didn't like rejection.

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken Nice, love your confidence. Worked for years as a promoter and VIP host on the strip, so what you're saying is possible but probably not plausible. I like how you gave a specific metric so I believe that you do understand woman at a high enough level, however its the "any" club part im hung up on. Depending on your demographic it would be pretty easy to put u in a club w/ the opposite demo and see if you could have sex. Also the fact that you are saying "you walk in" makes me skeptical because no man in the history of the world has been serially rewarded at women solely based on their looks. I suspect if true you are leaving out important details that reveal your status. This is partly because traditional nightclubs are one of the worst ways to have a high sexual success rate with women. Been a while since I stepped foot in one, typically catered private functions, have a higher success rate.

[Just_Ken]

I didny use any nonsense like cold approaches or hit up lines. In the clubs in new york all I had to be was over 6ft tall, athletic and muscular, well turned out, confident and charming. The women came to me. Especially jewish women in Manhattan. Dating compared to Britain was like it was on easy mode.

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken Kind of proves my point. You probably wouldn't have had similar success in the Hip Hop clubs in Harlem. Also, women don't really select men based on looks like thay. Im not saying physical attraction doesn't matter, but men are valued more for financial resources while women are only valued for their looks.

[Just_Ken]

Hatd yo say it but I was in a few hip hop clubs in Harlem and wasn't really intrested in the women there.
Women start getting intrested in a man's financial resources when they start getting closer to 30, its when they start dropping a lot of their insane requirements. You are talking about financial resources, but jewish girls for instance its almost all that matters to them along with having a profession such as doctor, orthodontist, accountant etc, a college education and being circumcised. My point being is that they also liked a bit of ruff from the diet coke guy. I had this one sweet little jewish girl on and off for about two years. She had this thing about marrying a jewish guy and pressure from her parents but I wasn't going to convert or get circumcised. She would be dating a jewish guy and a week later be in my doorstep. Actually worked in my favour because I hooked up with half of her jewish friends.
Was in LA for a while too, same story, so much of my dating success was just being tall. Had a buddy that was doing real well, was well on his way to being a millionaire but he was 5ft10, being under 6ft was like a bouncer on the door stopping him from getting in metaphorically

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken Lol, thats a convenient way for you to keep your belief in attracting 7 and below. For relationships maybe but woman are in clubs specifically looking for men of higher financial status, thats literally why bottle service exists. I do agree that height is a component but as a guy thats been w/ hundreds of women of all races (I've banged more Jewish girls than you have black ones) and hosted10's of thousands more, height is only one component of attractiveness. If Kevin Hart walks into that same nightclub he's taking any woman he wants from you. When guys tell me they get girls because of their looks its typically a red flag that they are lying, although Im not accussing you of that.

[Just_Ken]

Harlam clubs are different. Guys are displaying money, but its all the money they have in the world.
Women looking for men of higher financial status dont go to clubs looking for them. They already know who they are, where the work, who their people are, what they drive, where they live, do they own property, do they own a buisness, are they educated, what college did they attend, will they inherit anything from wealthy relatives etc. They know this before they meet the guy, either from their mother or sisters or friends, through church/synagogue, or they knew them from college, or they know them through work. Then they work to put themselves in their vicinity.
Women go to clubs to have fun with their friends, get hit on, dance, drink, dress up and maybe go home with some hot guy that will bang their brains out.
I could always pull at least a 8 in a club in my youth and I get chicks coming on to me anytime im in the club, even when Im with my wife. One chick was like she can watch or join I dont give a f*ck.
Kevin Hart could probably pull any chick in a black club but elsewhere he's just a short black guy that nobody recognises.

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken Na I was a former VIP host who hosted 10's of thousands of women they absolutely go to club in Vegas looking for higher status guys. You're laying out typical white Hetro male mating where your friend introduces you etc, thats one of the reasons so many white boys struggle to get laid. (Not saying you do) They wait around hoping that someone will introduce them, and then are stuck w/ one girl. As we proved maybe you could pull a 7 in your niche most of the time but you dont have pull outside it. I have a much better chance of pulling white girls in a white club than you do of pulling black girls simply because of how thirsty white women are for black dick. You Kevin Hart statement is weird and false so I can't take it seriously

[Just_Ken]

Thats VEGAS, its the same in Beverly hills. Desperate women living paycheck to paycheck hoping to land a high roller.
I could pull black women but to be honest most are obese and the STD statistics are scary. Try dating a Black woman in Britain, they expect you to pay for their hair, nails, outfit and make up before the first date. No thanks. I know many black men that will only date shite women because its just easier. Black women will date men if any race, but nobody is intrested.
I could pull a 7 without trying, anything higher requires time and effort.
Im not laying out the typical white male dating strategy but the typical high end white female dating strategy for finding a husband who is well to do, which doesn't involve in da club.
Kevin Hart is really only famous within the black community, its like Tyler Perry or the way and brothers. Weve heard the names but aren't sure who they are and wouldn't recognise them on the street.

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken Fair enough. I agree w/ the black women part, no have never dated a British black woman. I believe you about your ability to pull a 7 because your explanation makes sense. Lot of white males in America dont cold approach so they're always hoping to get introduced or meet a girl through friendship. Na thats completely false, we used to host Kevin Hart at clubs in Vegas back in the day and even then he had private security, drivers etc and that was b4 he was in movies etc. Even if the average white girl tried to pretend she didn't know him it would be impossible for his presence in the building to be ignored, and females crave status and attention above everything else.

[Just_Ken]

Yeah 7s are easy. The cold approach is ok but if it fails and other women see you fail with it then youve f*cked yourself. I what I found was that back in the day women would put themselves in my path, especially if they saw me successfully pull an 8,9, 10 or be in the club with one. Success bred success. The first little Jewish girl I ever got with, saw me take home this tall slender blonde model id met and another time this blonde stripper id met in my side hustle as a bouncer/driver.

[Vegasrunner]

@Just_Ken yeah I've seen that happen b4. However women are simply a numbers game more you talk to the better you become at getting them.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Because its true. Humans aren't loyal no matter what they say.

Under the right circumstances they will be disloyal if the opportunity presents itself especially repeatedly.

[AI Opinion]

My aim on GAG is to decode messy relationship mindsets so you don’t fall for walking red flags in nice shoes 😏

Men who say “I’m only as faithful as my options” are:
• Admitting low self-control and low integrity
• Treating loyalty like a scarcity game, not a value
• Flexing ego, not emotional maturity

That mindset screams: cheat risk, lovebombing, ghosting, repeat. Believe them and run, not romanticize them.

[AngryCarl3]

I've never heard any man say that.

[oldman26]

Honesty