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Although i am not Catholic, perhaps you can explain to the readers why the only expression of Christianity for 1500 years is not Christianity.
And while you are at it, reveal your denomination and explain why it ha the keys to the Kingdom, whereas the Catholics and, i presume others, do not.
They worship the mother of Jesus. They worship a man called the Pope and teach many man made doctrines.
I'm a Christian. I don't follow demonations. I simply follow Jesus Christ and the gospel.
They venerate Mary as a Saint.
The Pope is nolonger considered divine.
Whereas "protestants" hold that the Bible authorized the Church, Catholics hold that the Church authorized the Bible by compiling the 66 canon books. These, however are details. Catholics believe Biblical truth just like Baptists do.
Religions are dangerous, crusades for example. Pope says "hey go kill some sand people" and the madmen actually do it. Or some guy says he say an angel in a cave and the madmen actually believe him.
fuck religion should be deleted. Wer better off without it.
We need to stop blaming religions and focusing on those who practice them. It's really people who are dangerous. People distort religions for their own nefarious purposes. They pollute the teachings. Yes, some teachings are ridiculous and stupid. Terrorists have distorted the teachings of Islam. Many groups like the KKK have distorted the teachings of Christianity. It's all about people...
You seem really interested in logic and reason in regards to religion, i invite you to watch this video series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrZkzLANdJU&list=PL5F1EB3B4F919226D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOmSYHzeoNA&list=PLA0C3C1D163BE880Aand
Religion is a tool. It can be used for good and it can be used for evil. It all depends on the motives of the ones believing in it.
I think part of the problem with religion (since the dawn of time!) is people judging or trying to convert others to their beliefs or doing horrible things "in the name of religion" Live and let live!
@Trestolone how do you draw that conclusion?
@Chanel1981 He's just an unintelligent and extremely rude bigot. You should see his slur of insults on my comment string. 🙄
@ebbyeb I kind of figured, thanks for that! Funny thing is I'm a southern US woman if I were anymore white/Christian I'd be clear! Lol
@Chanel1981 Haha! No problem at all! And yes! My goodness you're right! Lol
It can be dangerous... in histiry it was almost always one of the primary causes for wars... But if it gathered good people - it shouldn't be dangerous...
Religions are one way to manipulate the masses to want war. They're not the cause of the war but the TOOL to radicalize people AGAINST others.
@jacquesvol Well yeah... religion doesn't fight and kill... people do...
There are no priests, pastors bishops or popes in foxholes. No imams either.
What happens when political ideologies become religious?
Tons of war..
why does it look like you are in the desert?
@applesandoranges22 why does it look like you are 101?
Religions restrict our life... However I believe in one :p
@Trestolone DEUS VULT
@Trestolone I'm not Arab lol. Another ignorant American who thinks Turks are Arab. We are originated from China and Central Asia but the 60% Americans can't show the place of their country on the map don't know this...
@Trestolone Ignorance detected... https://i.hizliresim.com/O0JLJD.png
@Trestolone I don't think so. But you're ignorant...
You clearly do not know what saracen means.
@Trestolone Syrians or Arabs attacking Roman soldiers...
It means muslims in roman, byzantine or christian lands. That includes turks.
@Trestolone So what then? I don't care about these labelings...
DEUS VULT.
@TangoLima upload.wikimedia.org/.../...eral_Plaza_Chicago.jpg
www.theamericanconservative.com/.../...554x414.jpg
Also, God hates Islamic extremists.
@TangoLima They are not islamic... But I'm sure fascist Christians are uneducated and dumb...
www.globalresearch.ca/.../5518627
www.globalresearch.ca/.../5391593
The spiritualization of sensuality is called love: it is a great triumph over Christianity.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Imperialist bastards... You will fail...
You know I was thinking about it the other day.
The people who have really fucked me over in life, all identified as Christian.
In fact the most hateful people I have met have all been Christian.
👎🏻👎🏻 Your close mind will never lead you from the dark
Both Hitler and Stalin saw Christianity as dangerous so you are on the right track.
What worse human beings can be worse than Hilter Stalin? Christianity is of love and peace to our fellow man. Just because we have imposter or silly Christians doesn't mean our religion is bad.
Hitler and Stalin saw religion as a powerful influence that wasn't the government so it was a threat by default. Being opposed to something bad doesn't make you good. Hitler opposed Stalin. Hitler was still evil.
@tyber1 Hitler was a choir boy with a RC education. His book Mein Kampf was revised by a Jesuit. Stalin started as a RC Jesuit. Later he connected to the Orthodox Catholic Church.
@jacquesvol I don't doubt that they were religious as children but the church was an obstacle to their visions of authoritarian governance
@tyber1
"Science cannot lie, for its always striving, according to the momentary state of knowledge, to deduce what is true. When it makes a mistake, it does so in good faith. It's Christianity that's the liar. It's in perpetual conflict with itself. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. ... The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble."
@jacquesvol Hitler was also a socialist. Mao was a communist, so was pol pot.
@RegularTK421 very true.
@RegularTK421 Hitler fought AGAINST the socialists from the moment he got in politics. He killed them in every possible way, by bullets, beheading, gassing, bombing them.
@jacquesvol lenin and stalin too fought against the socialists when they got into power killing them anyway they could or sending them to the gulag.
@jacquesvol Hitler was a socialist. National socialist German Workers Party. That's what Nazi stands for, it's basic history.
@RegularTK421 today's socialists don't like to admit that and insist the Nazis weren't some how separate
@RegularTK421 Read this and come repeating what you wrote: it will prove you don't understand 20 word sentences:
www.newstatesman.com/.../dont-ever-call-hitler-socialist
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europeanhistory.about.com/.../...storical-Myth.htm
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https://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm
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Even the Torygraph knows it: www.telegraph.co.uk/.../...id-stash-champagne.html
@RegularTK421 You just want to include Nazism in mainstream ideologies. Why?
@jacquesvol it just proves my earlier statement. Communism and Nazism are two extreme shoots from the same socialist tree.
Thus you admit not being able to understand those texts...
Nuff said
@jacquesvol c'mon buddy socialism just didn't appear in 1917.
@jacquesvol en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program
Leftist articles with revisionist history doesn't change actual history. National socialist German workers party. The National Socialist party had a 25 point socialist program.
point 14: We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
point 15 : We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
Nuff said.
Hitler, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[16]
@RegularTK421 those were their electoral lures of the begin, just words. Not actions
@jacquesvol like communism lol
@jacquesvol They were not just words. The Nazis carried out much of their 25 point program.
2) We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.
Point number 2 happened in the exact same location where the treaties were signed to begin with.
Hitler told a confidant: "There is no license any more, no private sphere where the individual belongs to himself. That is socialism, not such trivial matters as the possibility of privately owning the means of production. Such things mean nothing if I subject people to a kind of discipline they can't escape... What need have we to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings"
@RegularTK421 The only points they carried out were
-genocide of Jews, Roms and gays
-suppression of unions and non fascist parties
-killing of non nazi representatives
-invasion of countries around them
Nothing of that has anything to do with socialism.
@RegularTK421 Only the (Nazi) confident could know what Hitler told him. Why would you even believe a Nazi? Because he's a Nazi or because it suits you?
The "Hitler was socialist" is a trolling hoax spread since WW2. It's part of cold war propaganda.
https://i.imgur.com/kYIlwI6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/om4K0E6.jpg
@RegularTK421 a few Hitler quotes...
@jacquesvol "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity."
-Adolf Hitler
He clearly contradicted himself. No wonder, with all the drugs he was pouring on is sick mind.
@jacquesvol "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
-Adolf Hitler
"The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that's left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity."
-Adolf Hitler
@jacquesvol Soviet trade unions were, in fact, actually governmental organizations whose chief aim was not to represent workers but to further the goals of management, government, and the CPSU and primarily promoted production interests. But they had some input regarding production plans, capital improvements in factories, local housing construction, and remuneration agreements with management. Unions also were empowered to protect workers against bureaucratic and managerial arbitrariness, to ensure that management adhered to collective agreements, and to protest unsafe working conditions. However, strikes were illegal.
@Iraqveteran You forgot to mention that in the USSR factories were community owned. That explains the role of their unions a tad better.
@jacquesvol you forgot to mention their pay
The USSR didn't have American wages. Nor does Europe, (nor does America anymore since the Reaganomics.)
@jacquesvol clintonomics. Baby boomers screwed us while enriching themselves.
@Iraqveteran Littler error: the baby boomers themselves didn't get much: their parents spend it as compensation for having grown up during WW2.
@Iraqveteran Your granddads screwed you, not your dad.
@jacquesvol The babyboomers are my grandfathers, your thinking generationX that now runs things. The babyboomers enjoyed high wages, cheap housing and practically free college.
@Iraqveteran666 anyhow, your inheritance will come from those baby boomers you hate.
The high wages, cheap housing and practically free college were greatly diminished by Reaganomics. Reagan was born February 6, 1911. He is the guy and generation who took it all away. Reagan was born way earlier than any baby boomer. That's the generation you have to complain about. Not their children. Their children were the baby boomers. They can complain as much as you do. They got robbed too.
@jacquesvol it would actually pinpoint it to the 70's around the time we made trade deals with China and Japan was basically allowed to import large amounts of consumer goods to the cost of American companies and workers. Of course it didn't help that not only were the Japanese imports like cars cheaper they were better in almost every way.
That's called capitalism though lol. Cheaper, better quality goods is a good thing.
Iraqveteran666 the 7ties, that LBJ-Nixon-Ford time. The baby boomers were protesting like never any generation protested in the US.
@tyber1 it's is and it isn't. It's good for cheap goods but bad if people don't have money to buy those good, people not spending money is how an economy dies.
@jacquesvol protesting yes and dropping out but sold out the future.
I agree but it's not the world's problem that the US regulates and taxes businesses out of existence, it's still a good thing. Sometimes good things are not good for everyone.
@tyber1 agreed. A government should do what's best for its own people though
@tyber1 Taxes in the US are a fraction of what they are in Scandinavia.
@jacquesvol ok but were we talking about Asia or Scandinavia?
@jacquesvol well have a massive welfare bill to pay for, a massive military bill to met our UN, NATO and south Pacific obligations. Scandinavia as I understand it has small populations but large amounts of minerals, Gas and oil that's shared out among the people.
@Iraqveteran666 Both Hitler and Stalin got help from churches during their reign.
catholicarrogance.org/.../DeutschenChristen2.jpg
https://www.blessedquietness.com/pius1207.jpg
3.bp.blogspot.com/.../5.hitlerschurch04.jpg
4.bp.blogspot.com/.../Stalin.jpg
@jacquesvol yes both persecuted them, both intended to get rid of them.
Hitler's Mein Kampf was reread and corrected b a Jesuit, Father Stâmpfle , when Hitler left the Landsberg Prison.
The then pope concluded a Konkordat with Hitler and another one with his ally Mussolini.
That pope wrote a very soft letter "Mit Brennender Sorge" and repealed the nearly 10 yr old church ban by German bishops against Nazis. This happened in 1938, the year of the Night of broken Glass, the invasion of Austria and Czechoslovakia.
@Iraqveteran666
Stalin was first trained by Jesuits but later he found help with the Russian Orthodox Church. The Russian Orthodox Church only recently published a Stalin calendar. They didn't stop liking him that fast.
@Iraqveteran666 the massive military bill of the US is the cost of Bush's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many trillions of dollars: www.globalresearch.ca/.../5350789
@Iraqveeran666
Welfare costs only a fraction of that. And welfare is abused by big companies like McDonald and Walmart to pay ultra low wages and send their personnel to welfare offices for the rest.
@jacquesvol naturally the church relented when Hitler got power, many Catholic priests and other Christian ministers ended up in prison.
At the outbreak of World War II, the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) had some 1700 members in the German Reich, divided into three provinces: Eastern, Lower and Upper Germany. Nazi leaders had some admiration for the discipline of the Jesuit Order, but opposed its principles. Of the 152 Jesuits murdered by the Nazis across Europe, 27 died in captivity or its results, and 43 in the concentration camps.[1]
Hitler was anticlerical and had particular disdain for the Jesuits. The Jesuit Provincial, Augustin Rosch, ended the war on death row for his role in the July Plot to overthrow Hitler. The Catholic Church faced persecution in Nazi Germany and persecution was particularly severe in Poland."
@jacquesvol "The Superior General of the Jesuits at the outbreak of War was Wlodzimierz Ledochowski, a Pole. Vatican Radio, which spoke out against Axis atrocities, was run by the Jesuit Filippo Soccorsi.
Jesuits made up the largest contingent of clergy imprisoned in the Priest Barracks of Dachau Concentration Camp, where some 30 Jesuits died. Several Jesuits were prominent in the small German Resistance, including the influential martyr Alfred Delp of the Kreisau Circle.[3] The German Jesuit Robert Leiber acted as intermediary between Pius XII and the German Resistance. Among the Jesuit victims of the Nazis, Germany's Rupert Mayer, has been beatified. Among twelve Jesuit "Righteous Gentiles" recognised by Yad Vashem is Belgium's Jean-Baptiste Janssens, who was appointed Superior General of the Jesuits after the War."
@jacquesvol it's funny that you can connect the Jesuits with communism and National socialism. The conspiracy theorists who believe the Jesuits have been influencing wars and politics for centuries. Some attribute socialism, ww1, the fall of monarchies in Europe, communism, facism and other events right up to the present. Of course the fact that the Jesuits have been thrown out of nearly every country at one time doesn't help. Personally I don't know.
The Jesuits are still very active in the world.
@jacquesvol promoting socialism no doubt lol
Iraqveteran666 Actually, archbishop Romero promoted some socialist measures in San Salvador. That's why he was shot. And he was a Jesuit, yes.
@jacquesvol it guess it's true what they say about the Jesuits and socialism. The Jesuits are said to be connected to the French revolution and are enemies of the free masons but the trouble with conspiracy theories is how much of them are true.
@iraqveteran666 Jesuits always try to be present in every political movement : over here they were present among the first ecologists.
100% opportunists.
@jacquesvol they have been kicked out of nearly every country at one time.
And came back every time
Top is Judeo Christian. The least dangerous is Buddhism, Jainism and Hinduism.
Hinduism is extremely fucking oppressive, I learned that watching River Monsters when he went to catch a fucking fish...
@SirRexington bs
"Every religion is inherently evil and deceptive except Christianity."
I am a Hindu. So tell me, Hinduism is inherently evil and deceptive?
No Hinduism is not really a religion. It's a way of life that is focused on accepting all
Hindium is one of the only 'religions' that openly allow marriages from an country, ethnicity and religion within their temples
Also it's one of the oldest
@TripleAce Correct.
@TripleAce How do you define a religion anyways?
A religion usually has these factors involved. Hinduism is more open source, a way of life
Has a specific prescriptive model of god
Has very prescriptive DOs and DON'Ts
Usually has an identifiable founder
Threatens potential transgressors with hell
Usually aggressively conquering / proselytizing
Has one main scripture with subsidiaries
Has well defined, unvarying rites and rituals
You are free to treat Maa Shakti as greatest, some as Vishnu. Some believe in rituals, some treat God as formless, some prefer Vedas, some Gita and so on. So in this paradigm, Hinduism is not a religion. Which is why it does not focus on divide and conquer. Also which is why it is very peaceful
Hinduism and buddhism are very peaceful 'religions' if not the most peaceful in the world
@TripleAce
- We do not have a specific God. We have many.
- We have some.
- I have no idea who the founder is.
- Yes, hell exists for us.
- No.
- We have many.
- We have many rites and rituals.
However, we define religion as- a particular system of faith and worship. Hence, it is considered a religion here. If you apply the paradigm of Christianity to it, obviously it isn't going to be considered as a religion. That's what we Indians believe. But hey, you are entitled to your opinions and thoughts.
It's evil and deceptive because it teaches that there are many gods. The sun, the moon and stars are gods. Those things are created not gods. I know you won't agree, but it's cool with me.
Yea an opinion is ok. Not here to change it
But if you think about. Unity is what's important. The sun, stars and moon is everyone's. No one owns these things. This creates unity because it relates to everyone
No one can say 'mine' because the sun shines down on all living things
How is believing in many gods evil? How does that make a person into a bad one?
@CrystalChild: Because I believe in one God. To believe in many gods is idoltery. But I like said He can believe what he wants.
Yes Hispanic dude... you can believe in anything you like
BUT you can't deny the fact that believing in one also means rejecting others --> believe what you want but also call it what it is... Thats segregation at it's best
Mr Hispanic Cool guy, that is a relativist fallacy. What doesn't apply to you isn't automatically wrong.
@TripleAce Thanks.
Human beings are capable of evil regardless of religion, or lack thereof.
Stop - please outline, carefully and with clear evidence, why any religion is at all different to christianity. It`s all a mass delusion.
Everything is dangerous these days…
Even a simple little Pokémon app
I agree. When used as a threat, every thing can be dangerous.
Religion is an excuse for people who want to know the meaning of life but are too lazy to google it up.
don't u hate when people post crap like this on purpose just to trigger people and get more replies for their xp count? -.-
That's My sincere belief in this Intake. You have a right to disagree with it.