Great Mytake. I believe that ethics of war in Quran are better than those of modern Civilisation, it will bring peace to all mankind if U. N. S. C adopts them.
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Mmm hhhmmn the muslim conquest of India says otherwise millions died or by their own "free will" switched to islam.
History teaches us that most of India converted because of trade, merchants would travel between both worlds and see the beauty of islam and preach it in their homelands. Just like the mongols who came in raiding the muslim world but after a while they converted even tho they were victorious in battle over the muslims. They brought their new religion back to their homeland, so really how did muslims force them to convert?
@Dumb haha history does not teach that. You have absolutely zero idea about history. Read up on Timur, Mahmud Ghaznavi, Ghouri, Aurangzeb, Lodhi Dynasty, Mughals, Tughlak dynasty, Slave Dynasty, Delhi Sultanate and so on... All carried out mass executions and conversions. India remained a Hindu country due to the efforts of Maratha, Sikh Kingdoms, Chola Dysnasty and even British who defeated Muslims in India and put a stop to conversions (although they had their own diabolical plans behind that). Islam is a war mongering Jihadi cult since it was born.
During the Timurid conquests of India, Haryana was the site of countless of appalling massacres, Timur's force of 90,000 soldiers each killed 50 to 100 Hindu men, women and children in Haryana, such atrocities include the be-headings of most of the enslaved Indian women after they were used for grinding, cooking and raping by Timur's soldiers before marching onward, causing a massive depopulation of the region and that was just the Muslims getting started.
@Dumb LoL you're literally too dumb, at least you have chosen a name that suits you too well :D Just look it up on google fool, also don't forget to read about Zoroastrians of Iran, Christians in Egypt, about Bosnia and Herzegovina etc etc. These days even peaceful Buddhists have had enough of Muslim parasites and killing them in mass numbers in Myanmar.
Timur was a Mongol with Turkish influence, it is said he was muslim but his wars were not because he wanted to spread islam. He wanted to pay homage to Genghis Kahn, thats the reason he invaded lands. And most of his victims were muslims and the churches in Europe even applauded him and saw him as a ally. You did not mention that did you Im not defending this guy what so ever, he did horrible things but not because Islam told him so.
"Most of India converted because of trade, merchants would travel between both world and see the beauty of Islam and preach in their homelands" The sentence made me want to take a dump lol and I'm Indian, I use Quran as my toilet paper
@dudegreat those who weren't murdered had to convert to survive. Anywhere the Muslims conquered the non Muslim populations that didn't convert slowly shrank away to virtually nothing through years of discrimination and genocide.
When Pakistan was created there were 14-15% Hindu population there. Today that number is 1-2%, so you can imagine what would have happened to them. Some stories that I've heard are so revolting that you realise that Islam and Muslims are pure evil.
They are not extremists, they are not Muslims at all. Even if they claim to be. Nonetheless I don't like them as much as you do but we can't ignore the fact that these militia groups can do what they do because they got somewhere in time the backing of a western country. Even if those countries didn't want to create rebelling militia groups, it's still one of the reasons they are so powerful over there
@reixun nah they're as Alien as British are. Go read some history first instead of reading your Quran, Somali. All muslims are blood, descendants and followers of middle eastern invaders who invaded India since 9th century. They were never part of India before that. Just because politicians like Nehru-Gandhi allowed them to stay here for their own gains doesn't mean Hindus have to be stupid enough to consider them Indians. Muslims were never part of India, they are still not part of India and never will be a part of India. Quran and Sharia has no place in India. They have occupied illegally occupied our lands in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh, which used to be Hindu habitation. They are doing the same thing in west now. Immigrating (new form of invasion which is less cruel and no where near as barbaric as invasion of India) in huge numbers and calling themselves Europeans, Americans, Canadians etc etc. just like the writer of this myTake, this is nothing new.
@reixun what is the difference between Muslims living in India and Pakistanis? They both follow Quran, they both want an Islamic sharia state, they both want polytheists i. e. Hindus to burn in hell, they both think Hindus are their slaves, they both want to convert, rape and enslave all non-Muslim/kafir women, they both think women should be stoned to death for adultery, they both think it's okay for husbands to beat their wife if she doesn't obey him, they both think men are superior to women and non-Muslim women are whores, they both think anyone who insults imaginary allah or paedophile mohammad should be beheaded, they both think it is okay to marry prepubescent girls and consummate marriage with them when she is 9, they both marry their own first cousins, I can go on and on with this. You think we Indians/Hindus are stupid, idiot!
" Go read some history first instead of reading your Quran, Somali" lmao wtf
"All muslims are blood, descendants and followers of middle eastern invaders" dna tests can easily prove thats a damn lie
"they both want to convert, rape and enslave all non-Muslim/kafir women, they both think women should be stoned to death for adultery, they both think it's okay for husbands to beat their wife if she doesn't obey him, they both ETC" I could feel that reach all the way in the US.
@reixun yeah yeah yeah just cause you are an inbred idiot you think other non-Muslims are stupid too. Muslims do not have a place in non-Muslim countries, their entire culture is an anomaly. So I don't wish to have a discussion with brain dead Muslims like you. Stay out of my country please _l_
Another "moderate" trying to justify the action of the "other" muslims. so sick of this barbaric religion. yeah there are good and bad people in every religion - but I dont see chritians killing children in the name of god. If you really like to merge in other cultures start by respecting them instead of trying to change them. educate yourself and raise up instead of trying to take everyone down with you!
@Mr_Knowitall you don't see Christians killing people? Kkk? Ilaga? Anti-balaka? Lord resistance army? But do you see muslims blaming whole of Christianity? Do you see the media covering those stories like crazy? No so take of your glasses, your vision is blurry
kkk? that is your analogy? I will tell you the difference, easily, when a group from any other religion is doing harm in terror it is immediately being criticized and many come out to say that they are not a part of a culture. somehow I don't see many muslims protests against your fellow "criminal" or "radical" muslims. there is always a "reason", being offended like a 3 years old kid, or maybe oppressed or didn't evolve in society and maybe even god forbids he was offended by the culture of the country that saved his ass!! no mate, this is a precedence and no other group of people ever terrorized the county that gave them shelter. Hypocrisy at it's best! you can find excuses all day, but the only one that can save yourselves is you. stop whining and start contributing back, do something helpful and not destructive.
@Mr_Knowitall just because you don't hear it doesn't mean Muslims don't denounce terror. Western media don't show it because it's not in their interest, just Google and you'll see how many people denounce IS. And why do I have to denounce anything when it's so clear that terror isn't part of my religion, I don't need to apologize nothing. They are not part of the religion, do instead of relying on your ditty media coverage go read instead.
@Intraluminal Just because a few bad people who are a certain religion do bad things doesn't mean the entire religion is "cancer". Christians killed innocent Muslim girls in my country does that mean christianity is cancer?
Jihad جهاد in Arabic does not mean “holy war.” It means “to strive, to apply oneself, to struggle, to persevere.” Jihad can be personal or it can be a community of persons struggling against oppression. In essence, it means to become closer to God in lifestyle and community. This type of struggle (jihad) is to ensure that a peaceful and equitable community continues to exist. Defensive means are acceptable to safeguard the community however offensive aggression is strictly prohibited. The Arabic word for fighting is qital and harb means war. Jihad in any form is mentioned 28 times in the Qur’an and qital/harb (fighting/war) are mentioned 94 times in the Qur’an. Some sources claim jihad is mentioned as much as 164 times, but this is incorrect. Combining fighting, war, struggle and similar connotations may equate to 164 (in the Qur’an) but all of these are not representative of jihad. Extremist leaders and islamophobes, each on opposite sides of the spectrum, have changed, edited or mis
Supposedly good Muslims don't denounce terrorists, enough said, nice distracting rant though. Please stay out of the USA as we are going to kick the shit out of any murdering goat fucking extremists.
"Good Muslims" are not condemning ISIS sex slave practice. "Good Muslims" are not standing up for womens rights. "Good Muslims" show no empathy toward the non Muslim victims of ISIS genocide.
ARTICLE: Given the mainstream media’s constant sensationalized reporting on terror and Muslims in the Western world, the utter lack of coverage of Arbaeen’s march on Sunday and Monday revealed the double standard that exists in reporting on peaceful Muslims.
Monday marked the final day of the mourning for Imam Hussein who was martyred in a battle with the massive army of Yazid after refusing allegiance to the tyrant caliph. Yazid the caliph of Umayyad dynasty was promoting the same type of Islam as ISIS and Wahhabist preach today.
Millions of marchers participated in the annual Arbaeen Procession in Karbala. The marchers are said to come from over 60 countries, and most of them have marched all the way to Karbala from other Iraqi cities like Najaf and Baghdad in a show of devotion. Each year, Sunni Muslims and followers of other religious groups such as Christians join the journey to mourn the martyrdom of Imam Hussein.
It is noteworthy to mention the mainstream media blackout of the millions people marched gathering in war torn Iraq, battling the ISIS, as a clear sign of biased reporting.
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Great Mytake.
I believe that ethics of war in Quran are better than those of modern Civilisation, it will bring peace to all mankind if U. N. S. C adopts them.
Mmm hhhmmn the muslim conquest of India says otherwise millions died or by their own "free will" switched to islam.
History teaches us that most of India converted because of trade, merchants would travel between both worlds and see the beauty of islam and preach it in their homelands.
Just like the mongols who came in raiding the muslim world but after a while they converted even tho they were victorious in battle over the muslims. They brought their new religion back to their homeland, so really how did muslims force them to convert?
The Indians were killed or concerted in wars of conquest in which hundreds of millions of Hindus were wiped out.
@Dumb haha history does not teach that. You have absolutely zero idea about history. Read up on Timur, Mahmud Ghaznavi, Ghouri, Aurangzeb, Lodhi Dynasty, Mughals, Tughlak dynasty, Slave Dynasty, Delhi Sultanate and so on... All carried out mass executions and conversions. India remained a Hindu country due to the efforts of Maratha, Sikh Kingdoms, Chola Dysnasty and even British who defeated Muslims in India and put a stop to conversions (although they had their own diabolical plans behind that). Islam is a war mongering Jihadi cult since it was born.
Hundred of millions hu, show me proof. From legit historians
During the Timurid conquests of India, Haryana was the site of countless of appalling massacres, Timur's force of 90,000 soldiers each killed 50 to 100 Hindu men, women and children in Haryana, such atrocities include the be-headings of most of the enslaved Indian women after they were used for grinding, cooking and raping by Timur's soldiers before marching onward, causing a massive depopulation of the region and that was just the Muslims getting started.
@Dumb LoL you're literally too dumb, at least you have chosen a name that suits you too well :D Just look it up on google fool, also don't forget to read about Zoroastrians of Iran, Christians in Egypt, about Bosnia and Herzegovina etc etc. These days even peaceful Buddhists have had enough of Muslim parasites and killing them in mass numbers in Myanmar.
Timur was a Mongol with Turkish influence, it is said he was muslim but his wars were not because he wanted to spread islam. He wanted to pay homage to Genghis Kahn, thats the reason he invaded lands. And most of his victims were muslims and the churches in Europe even applauded him and saw him as a ally. You did not mention that did you
Im not defending this guy what so ever, he did horrible things but not because Islam told him so.
"Most of India converted because of trade, merchants would travel between both world and see the beauty of Islam and preach in their homelands"
The sentence made me want to take a dump lol and I'm Indian, I use Quran as my toilet paper
@dudegreat those who weren't murdered had to convert to survive. Anywhere the Muslims conquered the non Muslim populations that didn't convert slowly shrank away to virtually nothing through years of discrimination and genocide.
When Pakistan was created there were 14-15% Hindu population there. Today that number is 1-2%, so you can imagine what would have happened to them. Some stories that I've heard are so revolting that you realise that Islam and Muslims are pure evil.
So long as the Muslims are not purging their religion of dangerous extremists they are putting the onus on the world to do it for them.
They are not extremists, they are not Muslims at all. Even if they claim to be. Nonetheless I don't like them as much as you do but we can't ignore the fact that these militia groups can do what they do because they got somewhere in time the backing of a western country. Even if those countries didn't want to create rebelling militia groups, it's still one of the reasons they are so powerful over there
Look up the No True Scotsman fallacy before you try and tell anyone these guys are not Muslims.
Did you read the quran? Are you a Muslim? You wanna tell me how my religion works?
I like when people take their TV and YouTube knowledge of Islam and try to convince me of stuff
Typical self righteous Muslim. Never wants to learn anything...
@dudegreat it's only 50% according to the experts.
Yeah. "Only"
I didn't know that till I tried to refute your claim.
Granted you have to define incest as including first cousin marriage but since most of the civilised world does that...
LOL India is not Muslim country, we have some Pakis who're living in India, when they clearly have no right to live here.
i think he was talking about numbers and not percentages
@springocelot My point was that even that number should be counted as Pakis, not Indians.
There a good amount of indian muslims, I'm surprised you're calling them pakis
Like hundreds of millions
@reixun nah they're as Alien as British are. Go read some history first instead of reading your Quran, Somali. All muslims are blood, descendants and followers of middle eastern invaders who invaded India since 9th century. They were never part of India before that. Just because politicians like Nehru-Gandhi allowed them to stay here for their own gains doesn't mean Hindus have to be stupid enough to consider them Indians. Muslims were never part of India, they are still not part of India and never will be a part of India. Quran and Sharia has no place in India. They have occupied illegally occupied our lands in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh, which used to be Hindu habitation. They are doing the same thing in west now. Immigrating (new form of invasion which is less cruel and no where near as barbaric as invasion of India) in huge numbers and calling themselves Europeans, Americans, Canadians etc etc. just like the writer of this myTake, this is nothing new.
@reixun what is the difference between Muslims living in India and Pakistanis? They both follow Quran, they both want an Islamic sharia state, they both want polytheists i. e. Hindus to burn in hell, they both think Hindus are their slaves, they both want to convert, rape and enslave all non-Muslim/kafir women, they both think women should be stoned to death for adultery, they both think it's okay for husbands to beat their wife if she doesn't obey him, they both think men are superior to women and non-Muslim women are whores, they both think anyone who insults imaginary allah or paedophile mohammad should be beheaded, they both think it is okay to marry prepubescent girls and consummate marriage with them when she is 9, they both marry their own first cousins, I can go on and on with this. You think we Indians/Hindus are stupid, idiot!
" Go read some history first instead of reading your Quran, Somali" lmao wtf
"All muslims are blood, descendants and followers of middle eastern invaders" dna tests can easily prove thats a damn lie
"they both want to convert, rape and enslave all non-Muslim/kafir women, they both think women should be stoned to death for adultery, they both think it's okay for husbands to beat their wife if she doesn't obey him, they both ETC" I could feel that reach all the way in the US.
Dude 😂
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@reixun yeah yeah yeah just cause you are an inbred idiot you think other non-Muslims are stupid too. Muslims do not have a place in non-Muslim countries, their entire culture is an anomaly. So I don't wish to have a discussion with brain dead Muslims like you. Stay out of my country please _l_
@reixun and dna tests have proved that Muslims have only 60% of South Asian Hindu blood, so no they are not pure blood Hindus.
Islam is one risky religion to follow... it will steal your life if you get too caught up into it..
the Quran is a joke
its a crap version of the bible
What a stupid comment.
I still don't trust Muslims.
I could go down that road and say the world doens't trust americans and white people in general but I ain't. I know better then that
Don't really give a shit. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it
@Dumb I anyday trust Americans and Caucasians more than Muslims. Same is the case with all other non-Muslims like me.
Yeah put your head in the sand, if you dont give a shit how other people think we won't care how you feel and think miss.
@dudegreat can you please not spam every opinion on here?
Like I said I'm not losing any sleep over it
came to read comments
Well Written mate. good job.
Another "moderate" trying to justify the action of the "other" muslims. so sick of this barbaric religion. yeah there are good and bad people in every religion - but I dont see chritians killing children in the name of god. If you really like to merge in other cultures start by respecting them instead of trying to change them. educate yourself and raise up instead of trying to take everyone down with you!
@Mr_Knowitall you don't see Christians killing people? Kkk? Ilaga? Anti-balaka? Lord resistance army?
But do you see muslims blaming whole of Christianity? Do you see the media covering those stories like crazy? No so take of your glasses, your vision is blurry
DD, I did not bother replying to his comments. There is so much bigotry and ignorance in what he said , you can't fix stupid :)
Yeah reminds me of a quote: you can show people the truth but your responsibility ends there.
kkk? that is your analogy? I will tell you the difference, easily, when a group from any other religion is doing harm in terror it is immediately being criticized and many come out to say that they are not a part of a culture. somehow I don't see many muslims protests against your fellow "criminal" or "radical" muslims. there is always a "reason", being offended like a 3 years old kid, or maybe oppressed or didn't evolve in society and maybe even god forbids he was offended by the culture of the country that saved his ass!! no mate, this is a precedence and no other group of people ever terrorized the county that gave them shelter. Hypocrisy at it's best! you can find excuses all day, but the only one that can save yourselves is you. stop whining and start contributing back, do something helpful and not destructive.
@Mr_Knowitall just because you don't hear it doesn't mean Muslims don't denounce terror. Western media don't show it because it's not in their interest, just Google and you'll see how many people denounce IS. And why do I have to denounce anything when it's so clear that terror isn't part of my religion, I don't need to apologize nothing. They are not part of the religion, do instead of relying on your ditty media coverage go read instead.
Islam = cancer
Islam is the future of the world.
@harabi
Then the future of the world is death through cancer. Inshallah!
You = Ignorant
@DizzySB
Recognizing reality for what it is is truthful not ignorant.
@Intraluminal Just because a few bad people who are a certain religion do bad things doesn't mean the entire religion is "cancer". Christians killed innocent Muslim girls in my country does that mean christianity is cancer?
@DizzySB
All religions are cancer, Islam is metastatic cancer.
Muslims don't denounce Jihad, enough siad
Jihad جهاد in Arabic does not mean “holy war.” It means “to strive, to apply oneself, to struggle, to persevere.” Jihad can be personal or it can be a community of persons struggling against oppression. In essence, it means to become closer to God in lifestyle and community. This type of struggle (jihad) is to ensure that a peaceful and equitable community continues to exist. Defensive means are acceptable to safeguard the community however offensive aggression is strictly prohibited. The Arabic word for fighting is qital and harb means war. Jihad in any form is mentioned 28 times in the Qur’an and qital/harb (fighting/war) are mentioned 94 times in the Qur’an. Some sources claim jihad is mentioned as much as 164 times, but this is incorrect. Combining fighting, war, struggle and similar connotations may equate to 164 (in the Qur’an) but all of these are not representative of jihad. Extremist leaders and islamophobes, each on opposite sides of the spectrum, have changed, edited or mis
Supposedly good Muslims don't denounce terrorists, enough said, nice distracting rant though. Please stay out of the USA as we are going to kick the shit out of any murdering goat fucking extremists.
"Good Muslims" are not condemning ISIS sex slave practice.
"Good Muslims" are not standing up for womens rights.
"Good Muslims" show no empathy toward the non Muslim victims of ISIS genocide.
Can't wait for your reply
ARTICLE: Given the mainstream media’s constant sensationalized reporting on terror and Muslims in the Western world, the utter lack of coverage of Arbaeen’s march on Sunday and Monday revealed the double standard that exists in reporting on peaceful Muslims.
Monday marked the final day of the mourning for Imam Hussein who was martyred in a battle with the massive army of Yazid after refusing allegiance to the tyrant caliph. Yazid the caliph of Umayyad dynasty was promoting the same type of Islam as ISIS and Wahhabist preach today.
Millions of marchers participated in the annual Arbaeen Procession in Karbala. The marchers are said to come from over 60 countries, and most of them have marched all the way to Karbala from other Iraqi cities like Najaf and Baghdad in a show of devotion. Each year, Sunni Muslims and followers of other religious groups such as Christians join the journey to mourn the martyrdom of Imam Hussein.
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It is noteworthy to mention the mainstream media blackout of the millions people marched gathering in war torn Iraq, battling the ISIS, as a clear sign of biased reporting.
enjoy your 72 virgins
Good explanation but people are too bling to see
ALLAHU AKBAR!