My Thoughts About Islam and Why I'm Considering Converting

[Anonymous]

I want to share with you why I'm considering to convert to Islam, what my thoughts are about the Islamic rules, how I believe God is working and my thoughts about prophet Muhammad (Pbuh). PS! This is just about my faith; what I believe. There's a reason it's called faith and this MyTake is subjective.

(God's pronouns in this MyTake = Them/They, gender neutral. "Pbuh" means "Peace be upon him".)

Why I am considering converting to Islam

I believe in a strong monotheism where there's only one God who created the whole universe. I don't believe in the trinity. For me it doesn't make sense God made either himself or another "god" a human to just die for the human's sins. Why would God die and why would he need other gods to help him? God could do things by themselves. I don't think Judaism or Christianity is something for me because I don't believe messiah has been here or would come. When I hear the word "polytheism" I'm thinking about Greek and Norse mythology in addition to Hinduism. The religions make it sound like the deities are human beings with superpowers who become parents, marry each others and are living like human beings. I doubt God is the same as a human being. If it wasn't for prophet Muhammad Islam wouldn't be widespread. Without a God, how could this world exist and be so advanced? Therefore I am considering to convert.

My opinion about Islamic rules...
The five pillars:

The five pillars are the rules in Islam.

In my opinion the only thing that's required to be a Muslim is believing in only one God and that prophet Muhammad was his messenger. You also have to say the shahadah (the creed) to be one, and preferably in front of either an imam or two Muslim witnesses. Like in other religions you can also be a modern, conservative or something in the between. Therefor I don't think you've to follow all the five pillars (rules) although it's recommended. Many modern Muslims are choosing to not following all the rules like the fasting and the pilgrim to Mecca for example like how not all Christians are fasting or going to the church every Sunday. It don't make you lesser of a Muslim and I think the environment you're living in can affect your lifestyle. It's important to adapt to the place you lives in. I don't believe it's a sin to not follow all of the pillars and it's actually beneficial to keeping up with your time, society etc.

I won't fast because I don't think it would be beneficial at all. I thinks it's a better deed keeping myself in a good mood so I won't be grumpy toward other people while being in school, work or something else which is important. I also thinks I would be more helpful if I donated to charity or became a voluntarily worker than "starving" myself. I also thinks traveling to Mecca is unnecessary. First of all I'm disagreeing with Saudi Arabia breaking the human's rights, so I don't want to support them, God is everywhere - so I can keep up a relationship with him and the third reason is that I can do other good deeds instead. Just because the prophet visited Mecca don't mean I've to visit it. He's just a human being anyway.

Many Muslims are praying five times a day.

When it comes to the salah (praying) God doesn't have any need of being worshiped or people praying to them. It's more like humans are praying because they need it. Humans can be weak sometimes and sometimes are in need of comfort, friendship etc. In my opinion praying five times a day has nothing to do with submission, but is rather about a caring energy/power helping people. Sometimes it can be like a meditation, having a conversation and being thankful over what you have. I've tried praying five times a day and it's not stress like how some people want it to sound like. It's like hanging out with someone.

Food:

Alcohol is a big no for many Muslims. I also see it as bad.

Alcohol - I don't drink it and I've always avoided it. Even when I didn't believe in anything I avoided it. It's harming your health and makes you think lesser clear making it more likely for accidents etc. Alcohol and hardcore partying isn't a good thing, so I think it would be better if everyone avoided it regardless which faith they've.

Pork - Why pork is haram in Islam is because it's dangerous to eat in hot climates, where the pigs wasn't monitored as much as today and because of life threatening parasites. Pigs could eat almost everything including unhealthy things making them full of parasites. Nowadays in rich cold climate countries where the pigs are watched all the time, so they can't eat dangerous stuffs, it's not as dangerous to eat pork. Since the times are changing and it's varying from environments to environments, it would make more sense to judge from case to case. In Nordic countries it's safe to eat it, but in hot climates and poor countries it's just something to avoid.

Gender roles:

Both genders should have the same opportunities, be treated with respect and none of the genders are superior to the other ones. Religion shouldn't be used as an excuse to discriminate or be rude toward someone. Nor should it be forced on anyone either. Same applies to the hijab, it should be voluntary to wear it.

Homosexuality:

In the past the infant mortality rates were higher, fewer people grew old etc. because of diseases and that they didn't have the same knowledge or technology at that time as today. So there's no wonder people at that time worried about the population and wanted people to marry to get children. The world's population has increased with time and more people have grown old thanks to better technology, and therefore a too little population wouldn't be a problem. So this harmless thing would be even more harmless today than then because of time is changing. There's more than seven billion people in the world as well.

The Qur'an:

The Qur'an is the holy book in Islam like how Christians have the bible.

Just because the Qur'an tells you about many things doesn't mean it should be taken literally. Somethings are probably written in metaphors, while other things are about how some people experienced things; not necessary how it's for everyone. In addition it's written by humans. Since humans aren't flawless, they can just interpret things wrongly and write it down, or just share their subjective opinion. If something was very significant to understand correctly, God could just show himself in front of us all and tell us it. The translated versions can also be translated wrongly. It's difficult to translate it from one language to another one, so mistakes can happen and the whole meaning or context can suddenly just change completely. As I've mentioned many times earlier in this MyTake, times changes and the Qur'an were written at a time in an environment where these things was suitable. In a modern society things may work differently. It should also be allowed to discuss and questioning it in addition to interpret it.

Allah:

God (Allah) is according to my belief the first and the greatest designer in the world. They created the world and designed every single details. Nobody knows for sure why God created this universe, but it might be because they're a creative beings and likes being creative. A designer who doesn't design anything aren't a designer. Since humans have different opinions on perfection and it's a subjective subject, therefor some would think God is perfect, while others won't. God is like how they're and either they fits your definition or they don't. Some says because of the problem of evil God can't be all-powerful and all-knowing. It's some humans who said God have to be all-powerful, all-knowing etc. It's a possibility they're it and it's a possibility otherwise. Maybe it's a reason the world is like how it's now that humans aren't able to comprehend. It can be a good reason that we don't know about. Perhaps we eventually get to know it later. Who knows? God have created a huge universe with several galaxies, planets, nature laws etc.

When it comes to afterlives I doubt humans are capable to comprehend how it's in Hell and Heaven, and who's coming there. It's only God who knows. Because of the revenge mindset sounds very human like and God isn't a human, I doubt God wants revenge and that the human's conception of Hell and Heaven is true. It's difficult to know how God thinks and works because we're humans, but they're not. They works differently. Maybe heaven is a good place to be for people who wants to be with God, but Hell is either the people deceasing to exist or a nice place to be for people who don't want to spend their time with God. The life on earth is anyway very harsh, so life itself can be Hellish enough for many, so why would eternal torture be necessary?

Prophet Muhammad

Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) wasn't only a prophet, he was also a human being like everyone else who's human. I thinks he shouldn't be worshiped or be seen as a role model. He did both good and bad deeds like any humans are capable to do. Just because the prophet did things in his life don't mean you've to do the same or that's recommended. He wasn't God and he wouldn't become one either. The thing he did was making Islam widespread and being inspired by God. If drawing other historical and famous people are okay, then drawing Muhammad is also okay in my opinion. The rules that applies to others should also apply to him because he and other famous people are humans. It's a difference between drawing someone to just have a picture and to drawing someone to idolizing them.

#Islam #MuslimFaith

[MarkRet]

First off, you're a 'blue anon', which indicates you are unwilling to really stand up for your faith. Second, you're cherry-picking what YOU think Islam should be, but don't worry, your new Islamic friends will be working on you until you come around. Islam has no respect for women, other than controlling them. Her place is to be obedient, married, and to produce a lot of children. If any woman even dares to think for herself, she'll be beaten or even killed by a father, husband, brother, or whoever. That's what happened to Benazir Bhutto.

Islam is supposed to be the religion of peace, yet it's the Muslim countries who seem to have the most war, and the most closed-mindedness. Why are all these Muslim refugees fleeing to Christian Europe? Because their Muslim brethren will not take them in, even though some of these Muslim countries are swimming in money. So much for compassion and charity.

I've read the Quran, and it states repeatedly that a Muslim's duty is to either convert or kill infidels. Of course, if I bring this point up, a Muslim will tell me I'm reading the wrong Quran, that I should be reading an 'Arab Quran, or some kind of Taquiaa like that. ISIS is actually carrying out the true teachings of the Quran. There are just too many Muslims carrying out this kind of behavior for it to just be some misinterpreted knowledge of Islam.

As far as rudeness, Muslims are actually told to be rude to infidels. I was once walking in a mall, and four Muslim women were walking towards me. Out of courtesy, I stepped aside for them to let them pass. They didn't even acknowledge me, say 'hello', 'sorry', or even look at me. It was like I was invisible to them. That's what they think of non-Muslims.

Still, it's your call.

[Anonymous]

You're picking and choosing what part of the religion you want to follow and you're interpreting it's you see fit. If you do that, you'll never be a true Muslim. That's how they get you, you realize that? At first they say its okay, the book is there to be interpreted as you want, but little by little they force their conditioning on you - you've already built them a base so all the have to do is build on it and then pretty soon you're pledging your life to Allah and driving exploding trucks across bridges and into courthouses. Don't bullshit about Islam being respectful of women either. They're not "respectful" of women - women there are subjugated enough that its more like keeping an eye on a flock of sheep.

[Asad1ONE1]

There's probably no better example of "ignorance" than your opinion lol

[Opinion Owner]

@Asad1ONE1 i dont know. This my take seems to want to try and give me a run for my money.

[Asad1ONE1]

Exactly. You don't know. You MUST study the Qur'an!

[Asad1ONE1]

You'll be glad you did.

[Anonymous]

The Koran is part of an eternal book. It existed before Allah created the heavens and the world. It is the perfect book, and is Allah's flawless word.

And you just said "Just because the Qur'an tells you about many things doesn't mean it should be taken literally."
Nowhere in the Koran does Allah claim he is speaking in anything less than a literal fashion. Any serious study of the Hadith and life of Muhammad shows you that Muhammad took it very literally. The followers took it literally.

The only argument for not taking it literally is a desire to peacefully coexist in a world that is modern and has morality based on Western, European Judaeo-Christain values. It is an attempt to pick and choose, and to pussy your way out of what Allah demands.
It is Shirk, it is Blasphemy. It is equating your own intellect with that of Allah, and determining what you think he meant, instead of following his word.
Such actions mark you as a hypocrite, one who claims adherence to Allah but believes heretical things.

And Allah has no love for the sinner, or the hypocrite. We know, because he says so, bluntly. He also says that despite reservations in your heart, you should follow his commands, unquestioningly.
By questioning, by interpreting, by declaring his eternal word should not be taken literally, you have identified yourself as a sinner and blasphemer against Allah.

So think carefully before you say those words and declare yourself a Muslim. "He who abandons his Islamic faith, kill him."
Yes, it is Hadith, but is is strong Hadith.
And how do you know to pray 5 times a day? How do you know the pillars of Islam? They are not in the Koran. They too are Hadith. Even the weakest of Hadith is maintained and studied, in case it is true, so nothing is lost. Would you dare question the validity of the strongest of Hadiths?
Maybe you would. After all, you already doubted the seriousness and literal nature of Allah's perfect spoken word.

You had best think long and hard before you decide to say those words. If you recant them later, the idolaters and polytheists will take you back. But for those who live in Muhammad's path, unquestioning and unwavering in their faith in Allah?
You'll have earned a death sentence.

[thatguyfromtoronto]

As a Muslim guy, I say good for you for following Islam. People can run their mouth and talk all the shit they want about Islam but when ignorant people finally realize omg there is a hell and a heaven and I am going to be judged for my actions and Islam was the religion God predicated on, this is where the soul of the non-believer will shit themselves.

You will get a lot of backlash for this post but be strong, continue being a good person and follow Islam the right way, the just way. People watch whats on TV about ISIS and Al-Qaeda, as a Shia Muslim such as myself, people don't know that even in Saudi Arabia the government and the kings/princes make the rules in a very bias way.

Why is it that Donald Trump banned certain countries but not Saudi Arabia because that country is an oil country and Trump loves that country because of the rich kings and the status. In the 600s (AD) Women in Islam had the right to divorce, to have a job, to inherit property so this whole flawed view of ISLAM MISTREATS WOMEN, people should know their facts first. The time women were truly oppressed was actually around the 1100s in England and spread throughout Europe. But people are too stupid to comprehend any of that knowledge because they choose to be prejudice against Muslims. I know people on here who love to see a Muslim genocide like the Jews went through in WW2 and that is the sick thinking and the hatred people have nowadays.

Your faith will be tested as a Muslim, as an individual, like I said, pray, help others regardless Muslim or not, and prove to the nay-sayers, prove to the haters that Muslims are good people and Islam is a religion of peace. For anyone who messages me and says look at ISIS and Al-Qaeda, those groups were pretty much funded by the Middle-East and America could have been involved with that, who knows? But only God knows best and I hope God provides the strength and knowledge to those who are Muslims or even non-Muslims.

The time of the 12th imam and Jesus Christ is soon approaching and people again are stupid because the Quran predicted world events from the messenger of Allah (God) in the 600s, so to those who bash Islam or the Quran, I say, how can something be predicted in the 600s and come true throughout time? If people connect the dots of what God's message was in the Quran and look at the historical events or the way certain places in the world has transformed that's when people will be shocked or they may still not believe it.

[Cursewords]

If he even existed. You're prophet was a pedophile. He claims he split the moon in two after riding there on a winged horse lmao. You gotta pray at least 4 times a day. 99.9% of Terrorism attacks are claimed by terrorist groups operating under Islamic belief system and you guys are ruining Europe and anywhere else that you move to.

Please wake up asap.

[thatguyfromtoronto]

@Cursewords I woke up, it's you who has the veil over his face.

[Punzie_]

I don't blame you for considering converting. You are seeing the part that man has made to make sense. It seems easy and simple to have 5 main rules (emphasis on *main* since there are so many other rules) to follow and that's it. The thing is, with Islam, there are no opinions that you can get of your own. You would have to follow Islam HOW IT IS. You're not supposed to interpret how you want or cherry pick. Dude, it sounds simple and easy at first but when you actually look more into the Quran, You'll find that it's not as equal as it likes to act like. It says to hit your wife into submission "lightly" if she disobeys. The men are allowed 4 wives while the women only 1 husband. And if you look into the rewards in paradise, it is like a supposedly dream magical sex city. Young boys there to "serve" as it says. Then there are maidens/virgins there that are "fair" and pleasing to the eye supposedly, that are petite and basically described to be the embodiment of any hentai girl. They don't give backlash, just "serve" and any of the men who brought wives into paradise don't have to worry about their wives getting jealous. It says they won't be jealous. That's a dream it seems, to have sex with eternal virgins for the rest of your eternity and your wife not mind.

There's so many contradictions within that one single book. They want to overlook it and they will blame the contradictions on translation errors or you aren't understanding right and their number one defense when they can't say anything is "Allah is one, inshallah". What I find interesting is that the Quran was a book written during times of war. The simple word "war" is mentioned in that book a crazy amount of times for a religion that is supposed to be of peace. The only peace it has is to those who are converted. And even then, Muslims can't even get their Muslim countries united. Peaceful... not really.

[springocelot]

You are applying a christian or humanist perspective to islam, which simply does not exist within islamic teaching themselves.

*Islam considers the quran the DIRECT word of god, not just something written by humans. As such, most sheikhs consider the quran something to be taken literally.

*You complain of Saudi's human rights violations. Well Saudi derives all its laws from the Quran and the Sunnah of Mohammad.

*No practicing muslim considers mohammad a "human being like everyone else" who has done "both good and bad deeds like any humans are capable." He is the epitome of perfection to them. If you become muslim, prepare for a lot of flak just for saying that.

Like a lot of potential converts to islam, you are attracted to its outward simplicity. You probably like the idea that it provides structure as well.
A muslim probably sold you on that idea. But guess what? They are REQUIRED to advertise their religion for the purpose of expanding the base. So of course, they'll tell you what you want to hear.

It's the milk before meat method. They'll tell you the easy to digest stuff first, then only after you join, they'll give you the hard to digest stuff. But since you can't leave (as islam forbids converting out), you'd have no choice but to suck yourself in.

Be careful what you wish for.

[DumbandDumbber]

*You complain of Saudi's human rights violations. Well Saudi derives all its laws from the Quran and the Sunnah of Mohammad.

You lost me there, stop spreading lies.

[springocelot]

@DumbandDumbber - okay, so they don't follow the sharia rules regarding international transactions with unbelievers. that's still 99%, which is pretty much close to all.

[DumbandDumbber]

Dude Saudi Arabia is unislamic as it gets. There is no compulsion in islam and all they do is force stuff on people, that is all I have to say.

[lovelyhoneybones]

I was raised in an Islamic household and I disagree with a lot of the things Islam calls for, like how women are to be treated for example. Yes, women do have a high standing in Islam as mothers, daughters and wives but a lot of the time they have to ask permission from male family members or their husbands. Even their little brothers get put above them. Now I am no longer muslim but I do like a lot of things about Islam, it's just not for me. I hope you're able make your decision though and be happy with it.

[NatashaJ]

Well good luck dealing with other Muslims if your not brown they are very racist towards other race groups behind their backs. They never admit that they hate black people, think white people as slutty druggies, Asians people are dog eaters cheapskates to their faces only behind their backs well never actually say it but you can tell the dislike from them. Which is why I am not friends with anymore Muslims I'm tired of the closet racism in this community.

[lyannamormont]

i think by stating what other muslims think (in your own opinions) you stated your own racism.
my mom is muslim my dad is jewish and i haven't heard a single thing towards any of those things from any of my mom's relatives.

There is a saying in my mom's native tongue: Tell me who your friend is, i will tell you who you are. you are blaming bad people and their bad attitudes on them being muslims, like it is making you a good person to not be friends with them, then you come talk about that. i don't think you are any different than those people you mention. oh wait, you christian i guess. so for your bad attitude let's blame all the christians.

[SuperMan89s]

NatashaJ 100% true !!! they think they are the best people in the world.

[springocelot]

I've lived with muslims before. I can attest to all of that. Public piety, hidden hate. They think they're better than everyone else just because their religion says so, especially muslims of the arab variety.

[jadman]

@lyannamormont you say "my mom is muslim my dad is jewish '' !
In this case, marriage is void "for your mother" because Muslim women may not marry a non-Muslim man !!
did you know that?

[lyannamormont]

@jadman and you know that we dont live in 672, but in 2017.

[izmend]

I am muslim and not a racist...

[BoySittingOnTheMoon]

@springocelot Bilal Ibn Rabah was a black Muslim who was the first person to do azan (call for prayer). Thus he is a well respected man. You might know Arab people appears to be racists but they aren't, they have this sense of pride and community of their fellow Arabs. Not all Arabs are brown, there's white Arabs in the levant and black arabs in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and other places. Plus the largest Muslims population in a country is Indonesians.

This quote below was Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) last sermon.

bloggingtheologydotnet.files.wordpress.com/.../img_1427.jpg

[NatashaJ]

@lyannamormont 1. typical Muslim assuming I'm Christian base off my name right? 2. very funny you call me racist yet I have plenty of Muslims in my family difference is Muslims and Hindus from South America are not full of themselves or assholes like middle eastern ones. 3. Notice how many people agree with me about Islam? if you can't handle that a lot of people in your religion gives off this impression they better then other races and say shitty things about other races that's your problem not ours. I grew up in Canada and plenty of Muslims and Hindus here are closet racists and they sure love to make up of whites and Asians and Hispanics and never want to date or be around blacks (most of them). Also, I love the bullshit your religion pulls you guys love to talk crap about white people that love to have sex yet you people act like your kids are innocent while they are fucking bunch of people too yet they love to hide because they don't want other Muslims to find out

[NatashaJ]

I know plenty of Muslims girls who act like they better then some people for stupidest shit yet they never wanted anyone to know who they having sex with they rather give that impression to their friends and family they are "virgins" still but love to make fun of other races for doing the same thing. So don't sit here and tell other people what they experience is a lie or not true because sorry but Muslims had pull a lot of people from different cultures nerves with their attitude and bs.

[lyannamormont]

"typical Muslim assuming I'm Christian base off my name right?"

I didn't say I am Muslim. I guess you do not understand what you read.
Also, I did not say "you're Christian", I wrote I guess.

Oh by the way, since you said all those that I didn't bother to read, I could also assume that you are Eastern European, whose women are perceived as hookers, whores, and mail brides in the US, and some other Western European countries. Would you like that?

It's the same for Muslims. Not everyone is bad, and your sample is too small to conclude such hateful things about "all" muslims and muslim women.

Equally, I would be outrageous if I conclude the same way.

I am not going to write more if you are too stubborn to see the harms of generalizations. Again I will repeat, you become friends with people like you exactly are.

[NatashaJ]

@lyannamormont still assuming there was no reason to assume I'm Christian I could had been any other religion so I don't know why you jump to that. Funny because a lot of people on here know I'm half Hispanic and half white and again you assuming I'm from eastern Europe where women as known as whores. I'm sorry you such a twit trying to defend a religion that a lot of people can't stand but don't try to use my race call me a whore or a sex worker you piece of shit I love how you have to use one of the typical opinions of Muslims trying to insult which didn't it just proves my point they have no respect for other cultures since you assume Eastern European women are whores like most of them act like or skanks. You clearly are Muslim I don't know why you defending them especially with what a lot of them say and you trying to sit here claiming shit when you little twit just like them.

[lyannamormont]

You're seriously an idiot who doesn't understand what you read. Do some reading. Start with Dostoevsky. I can give you some more literary work so you can improve your little brain's capacity to understand.

[NatashaJ]

If you wanted to prove a point you wouldn't prove my point by using the typical belief of a Muslim and very funny you too full of yourself to see why other cultures or religions have a problem with Islam. Go on reddit and read what some ex Muslims have witness in that religion or other people. Or how about the people who get fucked over when they dated one and they get use for sex and get dump so these people can marry another Muslim pretending to still be a virgin. Also, so what does that make of your friends since you are a shitty person as well assuming I'm a eastern European whore and weird how I'm the bad one but you sitting here being disrespectful as fuck to white people. I love how you Muslims HAVE to insult other cultures or races for no reason yet can't handle the same shit back at you. It's "too much hate Islam is about peace and love". But love to mock other races I don't know what you guys get out of that maybe to feel better since your lives are pathetic.

[NatashaJ]

I mean you guys can't fuck til marriage, can't eat pork, can't date in general, have to only eat halal meat, shelter as fuck most of your lives yet Muslims sure love to talk but can't face to face to other people pathetic people you guys are.

[NatashaJ]

And good because I use to defend Islam bullshit until I saw through it recently and I don't blame people for shitting on Islam now I wouldn't defend a Muslim after the shit I witness so kiss my ass since you think I'm a eastern European whore my opinion doesn't matter right? disrespectful little twit.

[NatashaJ]

Oh now I'm a idiot yet your the one defending a bullshit religion and can't handle that other people don't like it but its ok to shit on Christianity or any white religion right? You just the idiot because you clearly can't handle what some people do in your religion that pisses other people off. Also, don't tell me what to read because I would read any bullshit about defending Islam at all thank you not going to waste my time on the hypocrites known as Muslims.

[NatashaJ]

wouldn't* Also please enlighten me why all "good" Muslims never knowledge the shitty ones unless they are the terrorists but ignore all the other bullshit that people don't like about Muslims yet you demand people to respect your religion but you have no respect for other people.

[NatashaJ]

@lyannamormont awwww now to insults when you can't harass someone to love your religion very pathetic lol you think I have the respect I use to have Islam after your shitty ass responses yet cry me a river. But I could care less what happens to a Muslim now.

[lyannamormont]

I am not harassing you to love a religion my MOM subscribes to, NOT me. You are just not mature or smart enough to comprehend what I wrote, and deserve what i say.

[NatashaJ]

@lyannamormont Oh please kiss my ass you calling me a racist for bringing up how there a lot of racist people in that community and you trying to swore I'm only racist nah. The girls I hang out with trusted me enough with their racist views they never use slurs you don't have to use slurs to know someone racist when they think they are superior to other races. You still didn't help your case and by the way your a moron since I literal said there are Muslims in my family and there are Muslims in SOUTH AMERICA and they don't act the way Muslims do from the middle east so kiss my ass.

[NatashaJ]

Assuming I'm racist when I literal said not all Muslims are like that but it majority of them are racist.

[Iwasthinking]

why do you lie? WHY DO YOU LIE? WHY ARE YOU LYING?

[Political_dude]

I'm not here to rant against Islam but as you've written your Take, I'd love to show you some counterpoints. Although I can't mention for all points because you aren't following complete religion instead you're following whatever you want.

For Women related point :

The difference between the man and the woman in their respective shares in inheritance established by Allah's statement: " Allah commands you as regards your children's (inheritance); to the male, a portion equal to that of two females. [ Surah 4:11]

Simply Islam does not consider men and women equal. Instead, 1 Man = 2 Women.

[Anonymous]

Islam isn't a "peaceful religion"
It is an ancient gang created by the warlord muhammad , pbuh (piss be upon him)
Who killed and slaughtered his way across the arabic world, killing every boy above a certain age in his conquering paths and raping all their women with his men.

As evil as he was, he was smart enough to write a book that justified his actions amd got a bunch of sheeple to follow him, thinking he was a prophet.
The narcisism was so great that he even claimed to be the last "prophet". Thats right, so no one after him would be able to do what he did and threaten his gang.

He even f*cked a 9 year old girl, as if raping the women of his conquered nations wasn't enough.

I might not be the brightest one here, but im not dumb enough to follow some ancient pedophile gangbanger who had a bad moustache.

Safe yourself from this madness while you can

[thatguyfromtoronto]

It's funny you think Muslims are criminals and Islam is horrible, statistics by the Bureau in the United States actually have stated 60%+ of crimes are actually done by white people in North America. It's dumb ass white people who want to have their gun laws and be racist towards anyone of colour and when mass shootings happen, you guys simply shrug your shoulders and say, "oh that 1 guy was mental, no big deal". shut the fuck up with your racist ass shit.

[Cursewords]

@thatguyfromtoronto Meanwhile elsewhere Hamas and ISIS are responsible for 99.9% of all Terrorism...

Also: https://i.imgur.com/q3aj0MA.jpg

Hmm...

[thatguyfromtoronto]

@Cursewords And I can make a list of all these crazy white guys who committed terrorist acts to, so stop making your anonymous you pussy, you only do that on here to point out your racist, sexist, stupid troll ass agenda, right? Sad pathetic live you living there buddy, lmao.

[thatguyfromtoronto]

@Cursewords FYI I am muting this post because I don't need to get updates from fucking idiots like you. So go ahead run your mouth because when you die, and you hold your stupid ass racist ways, then you will shit your pants in the after life for the ignorant views you had towards 3 billion Muslims, oh and another thing Islam is actually predicted to be the #1 religion between 2050-2075, so keep running your mouth as if you are some smart dude, I know kids in grade 4 who are smarter than you.

[thatguyfromtoronto]

@Cursewords AGAIN IF YOU CAN READ I AM MUTING THIS POST THEREFORE I won't GET ANY NOTIFICATIONS FROM YOU OKAY? lol cool.

[Cursewords]

@thatguyfromtoronto Typical Muslim reply. Just mute anyone that doesn't agree with you. Pathetic.

[Cursewords]

Nice to see your true colours when presented with facts. I'm not a racist, Muslims aren't a race. It's a stupid ideology adopted. I have no problems with people. Tell me again how your savior split the moon in two after flying there on a winged horse. I'm surprised you have time to even reply between having to pray every 5 seconds. There is nothing waiting for us when we die, sorry to disappoint you but you aren't going to be getting 72 virgins but if you go back to your sand land maybe you can have 72 camels.

I'm having the time of my life over here, drinking alcohol, eating bacon and doing as I please. People are waking up to the disgusting ways of your religion. Enjoy your ignorance, it must be convenient.

[Cursewords]

Also let's see your list of non-Muslims that have committed terrorist attacks. Oh wait, I already just showed you the graph that includes EVERYONE. With Muslims 400% higher on the list than anyone else. I'm still willing to see your hilarious list though. Can you find even 3 names hahahaha!

[Opinion Owner]

@thatguyfromtoronto im not white , and im not racist. This shite is about RELIGION, not race.
If you are gonna respond, at least read the f in post.
Instead you just call me islamophobic and racist, coz that works for you, right?
What an idiot. And 60+ % percent if crime in north america is done by white people? Well, no shit, most people in north america, are white last i checked.

The thing is you never bothered to read my post, i didn't even talk about muslims. My point was that their prophet was trash and the religion he created was trash as well. If you wanna defend him after what he did, be my guest.

[TripleAce]

None of this makes any sense... there is so many holes in this that you sound like a muslim born dude just pretending to want to convert making up anything you can find to stick to your ideology... lol

Don't buy it one bit... sounds like a muslim born
I've heard many muslims say the exactly same stuff you are regurgitating though. I'm surprised you didn't bring in how the Quran is scientific too lol...

[Political_dude]

May be he is brainwashed

[Kuraj]

So you aren't really converting.
You are just cherry picking things that you like.
Religion 101.

"Just because the Qur'an tells you about many things doesn't mean it should be taken literally."

Yes it should, and has to be. As per Quran.

"In addition it's written by humans. Since humans aren't flawless, they can just interpret things wrongly and write it down,"

No it isn't.
Quran was passed down onto Muhammad via the angel Jibreel, it is the literal will and the literal word of god that has been passed down via his messenger exactly the way god willed it to be.
It is not open for interpretation.

The religious books in Abrahamic religions are the literal words of god.
This has been explicitly stated multiple times throughout them.
Humans were only the instrument used to write the books, everything in them is written in accordance to god's will and nothing of them is human creation.

[meowcow]

Haha, gender equality in Islam? What the fuck are you smoking?

If you've ever been to an Islamic country in the middle east or southeast Asia, you'll know that women are treated like garbage or commodities.

There is also the question of what makes you think that Muhammed is the one single god, when most other religions make the exact same claim about their god. How can there be only one true god, but also so many other religions that also claim one true god?

[thatguyfromtoronto]

600 ADs when Islam was founded in Arabia, women had the right to divorce, inherit property and to work. You know when sexism towards women truly started in Europe (in the 1100s) why did women fight for the right to vote or to get equal rights or millions of women marched during the feminist movements in the 1920s, 1930s, 1970s and so on. You think sexism towards women is only in Islam, it is a global issue you fucking moron. Stop talking shit about Islam and Muslims as if you know Islam truly as if you studied it to get your Ph. D. in, you lack common sense.

[meowcow]

@thatguyfromtoronto

That didn't make sense at all. When did I say sexism only exists in Islam? I fully agree that sexism occurs worldwide, to both men and women.

If you are making the argument for gender equality, you should not be using the most oppressive religion from the most oppressive part of the planet as your benchmark for success.

Muslim societies are the most abhorent in the world. Muslim child rapists are the norm in Middle Eastern countries. Marriages with 9 year olds are the norm. Mass slaughter of men, and rapes of women and children are the norm in Muslim countries like Somalia. You don't need a PhD to know that. One of the failing arguments people make is that "you need a PhD in the subject to have an opinion", which would limit the discussion to... well, certainly not you.

Your westernized version of Islam is nothing like the real Islam in the middle east.

[kayeleva]

dude i used to be a forced Muslim but i changed to Christianity its just shit to women and an excuse for men to marry 4 wifes and girls 4 time younger than them and its coming from a guy that is living with them right now and the photo that say Prophet Muhammad is not Muhammad its Ali the guy who married muhammads 12 year old daughter.

[thatguyfromtoronto]

*smh* you seriously couldn't be more wrong, wow.

[kayeleva]

@thatguyfromtoronto do you mean you couldn't be more wrong?

[Anonymous]

Haha...
Islam is one of the worse religions there are.
It's brainwashed and most muslims are completely... crazy about it.
I had a friend that said ''Allah will give you anything you want, if you want a fancy house, he WILL give it to you!''.
That Mohammed (Mohamamkmama?) guy also married a child.
That's cool, right?

[DumbandDumbber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka8csjsmX6I

[DawnRising]

So.. ur just repeating what you heard without reading? Honey, ur the brainwashed here

[Opinion Owner]

@DawnRising Do you still use ''u'' and ''ur'' when you're 26 years old?
Jfc.

And honestly, I didn't care enough to read all this.
Islam is fucking disgusting and a creepy religion from hell.

[DawnRising]

And what's wrong with using "ur"? :D
Anyway "you're" still young. You will learn how to respect other people's religion even if you don't agree with them.
If you don't read you will never learn. Dont just follow what you hear. You know it's funny because the first word descended in the Quran was "read".
Anyway watch this video: https://youtu.be/7d16CpWp-ok

[Opinion Owner]

@DawnRising You know, I live in Sweden, or as others like to call it, Swedenistan.
I don't think you would be so supportive of Muslims if you lived here.

I may be ignorant, but I won't watch any video, I despise Muslims, and it will remain that way.

And yeah, it's hard to take someone seriously when they use ''ur'' instead of ''you're''.

[DawnRising]

I didn't know that fact about Sweden. It's sad..
I am not telling you to like muslims, i am just asking you to read. Trust me it is magic :D. but honsetly I hope you change your mind about muslims one day. If so I will be happy to be your first muslim friend.
Good luck :)

[ShahSyeeed]

Well, it will be best decision you will ever made. I bet you but you need to find right people and right muslims who can guide you so. Forget about all the rubbish and negative propaganda that muslims are racist and hateful. I bet majority of muslims are best of people you meet with humor and laughter. Few bad ones are always in every society or religion like ISIS in the name of ISLAM, so they are muslims or do they represent ISLAM? HELL NOO! Go with you gut feeling and you will always be grateful for your this decision.

[MasterofPlebs]

First, they don't say "peace be upon him" but "may Allah's prayers and salutations be upon him" in Arabic. Anyway, I doubt Muhammad was a prophet, he was just a scam artist. In any case, if you become Muslim you cannot leave. Death for apostasy. Think long and hard before converting. Otherwise, I don't care what you do with your life.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

He won't be killed for apostasy if isn't living in a Middle Eastern Islamic country.

[yaanis]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy lol like they care about it

[thatguyfromtoronto]

you dumb ass.

[MasterofPlebs]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Islam teaches as official doctrine death for apostasy.

[HamAndCheese]

This reads like something that a girl enrolled in community college would write after reading a Buzzfeed article on how Islam is LGBT friendly.

[Rissyanne]

You have got to be crazy to do this. But it is your life.

[JigSaw93]

Being a Muslim who is against capitalism, immorality and abortion is better than being an immoral, feminazi and pro-choice Western who worships modern/non-original values like a holy book instead of God.

[JigSaw93]

He will also save his future daughter (s) from being a slut, pornstar or whore which is considered totally normal and moral in Western culture in the name of freedom and women's liberation.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 yes because muslim women are angels !!! lol gtfo they are the sluttiest one in the world.

[Rissyanne]

@JigSaw93 Dude you dont know me do you? I am in no way a feminazi. He will force his daughter to marry someone she doesn't even know. That is twisted. And if she doesn't do it... she will pay with her life.

[SuperMan89s]

A new law in Iraq is being legalized !!! A man can merry a 9 years old female child !!! what a fucked up and perverted religion.

[JigSaw93]

Most Muslim don't do the thing you said. It's just culture.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 the biggest lie muslims say !

[thatguyfromtoronto]

Why make that comment about Muslims/Islam when you only pick and choose to believe as well in terms of how Muslims are perceived?

[JigSaw93]

If you believe Muslims marry a underage girl and force their daughter to marry someone who she doesn't know, you're a big ignorant. I live in a Muslim country (Turkey) and I never heard such things.

[Rissyanne]

@JigSaw93 my nephew fell in love with a Muslim girl. They wanted to get married. Her family had arranged for her to marry another man. She told them she didn’t want to. They drugged her and forced her to sign a marriage license. Then forced her to try married. My nephews heart was broken. But he is now happily married to a Christian girl.

[JigSaw93]

That's her family's fault, not all Muslims. Things like that are rare here.

[Rissyanne]

@JigSaw93 that’s not what you said.

[JigSaw93]

I don't understand.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 The reason why islam is shit. cause you people despise anyone who is not like you!!! you call us infidels and the women are sluts and other stuff. just so that you can show yourself as the moral high ground ! and thats the typical muslim mentality.

[JigSaw93]

You call us infidels, too. Like every religion. Also, philosophers didn't like women, especially Schopenhauer. Read about that. I advise the film Antichrist by Lars Von Trier. Though I don't hate good women.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 You mean submissive woman ! a woman will do whatever you please. I get it dude.

[JigSaw93]

No, not to sleep around doesn't mean you're submissive. If they want to do, of course they can do. But they will go to hell.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 Thanks for proving my point !

[Rissyanne]

@SuperMan89s they will kill a woman if she sleeps around

[JigSaw93]

The rule in Islamic law: If you live in an Islamic country and you're a Muslim, you have to obey rules. If 4 people see you while having sex before marriage, you will be punished with floggin 100 times if you're single. But if you have sex with others while married and are seen by 4 people then you will be stoned to death. Man or woman, doesn't matter. Crime is crime.

[JigSaw93]

So, a Westerner wouldn't be punished in an Islamic country because being a slut is normal in their culture. Muslims don't care.

[SuperMan89s]

@Rissyanne Yes cause " that's what Islam tells them to do " !!!
Then they wonder why we act like this when we see this sick culture.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 what about the person who leaves Islam ( me ) ? Come on tell them man lol...

[JigSaw93]

Why do you care about things in an Islamic country and about Muslims there? We us don't care about Western countries. Islamic laws were applied in Muslim countries until modern days without problem.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 So western people are sluts in general ! Thanks again for proving my point.

[JigSaw93]

If a person leave Islam clearly in an Islamic country, the government is free between killing them or not killing. That's a tazir punishment like Maliki scholar Karafi said. Not necessary to be applied.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 Oh thank you then !!! you are so kind.

[JigSaw93]

Everyone knows Western women are non virgins. They're the biggest sluts and the quickest girls to lost virginity. They lose it in high school or before. They shame being virgin and want to be deflowered by a random guy immediately. They do porn, sleep around, swing, have abortions, have one night stands, have group sex, allow their daughters to be a pornstar, go to sex parties and are shared. Their number is 14 at least. Wife material girls are too rare there.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 Then why you keep watching them on screen? why you use this site that is filled with " sluts " as you say? your religion dont accept that, so i think you are going to hell man LOL...

[SuperMan89s]

Just Pure Ignorance !!!

[JigSaw93]

I don't watch porn and I don't do major sins like sex before marriage which Westerners are fond of. I just masturbate to Western whores photos. I use this site to express my thoughts, anger and hate.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 Good. keep masturbating !!! lol what a joke.

[JigSaw93]

:) I watched a thing on a British channel. A girl was saying 'I was shamed of being a virgin. My friend was mocking me. I was feeling stressed and I decided to lose it. I said to a random guy in a bar 'Deflower me' and after losing it, I felt good.'

[JigSaw93]

@Rissyanne By the way, you would be a nice milf/mature woman in American porn industry lol :D

[SuperMan89s]

Another reason why muslims are full of shit !

[JigSaw93]

The industry belongs to Americans lol :D

[JigSaw93]

After reading Schopenhauer, you will agree with me about women. Not just a Muslim thing, bro. Universal.

[SuperMan89s]

And you jerk off on it even when your religion dont accepts that ! muslims are hypocrites.

[JigSaw93]

@Rissyanne Don't forget high heels while doing the job, if you join. Have a nice time with guys.

[JigSaw93]

Do you know the difference? Doing porn is a big sin, but masturbating looking at Western sluts is a small sin. And small sins are easily forgivable. Everyone is sinners. There's no totally sinless person in the world. It's only bad if you do major sins, not smalls.

[SuperMan89s]

@JigSaw93 Thats why your kind is so ignorant and pathetic !!!
srs everyone is laughing at you now lol...

[JigSaw93]

You're comic lol :D

[SuperMan89s]

And you're stupid.

[Rissyanne]

@JigSaw93 To say something like that proves you do watch porn.

[JigSaw93]

Did, not do.

[JigSaw93]

I abhored.

[Rissyanne]

@JigSaw93 then how do you know what men like in porn? You have watched it. You probably watch goat fuckers to

[SuperMan89s]

LOL !!!

[JigSaw93]

I already said I watched, but I don't.

[JigSaw93]

American sluts were good. I have to appreciate you Western women for sucking and fucking well lol. As you see, I sometimes appreciate Westerners lol :D

[SuperMan89s]

I heard you guys are having butt fucking in the mosque !!! Allah Akbaaaaar...

[JigSaw93]

I hate you Westerners just because you're whores, male-whores, sluts and bitches. I don't care about what you believe in or not.

[Rissyanne]

@SuperMan89s that is probably where they make their goats their sluts

[JigSaw93]

@Rissyanne I heard German women had dogs to fuck them, are you a German?

[SuperMan89s]

@Rissyanne Exactly. they hate westerners yet the wish they can be like them ! lol hypocrites.

[JigSaw93]

We don't want abortions, sluts, whores and pornstars like in the West but we want a good life like you Westerners. Do I make myself clear?

[SuperMan89s]

Go to your goat wife hypocrite ! lol

[JigSaw93]

Don't be an idiot.

[SuperMan89s]

Bye Hypocrite !

[JigSaw93]

Bye outstanding person because he's a Westerner!

[JigSaw93]

@Rissyanne @SuperMan89s I apologise you all. If there are good women and men there, I don't hate and want to hurt them. I've never had a girlfriend and that makes me stressed. Also this site, OKCupid 'dating' site, Quora and others have a lot of dirty and even disgusting things and it was a big shock me to realise the real word. That's why I act like that. I'd better stay away from those sites.

[smølf]

The age of religion is coming to an end, at some point those in power will realise how dangerous and corrupt organised religion is and remove it from power.
Religion have proven a valuable tool for those in power, however, it also become an increasing liability.

[dan0075]

your heading the wrong direction bro not only that muslims aren't who they seem to be. this Allah tells them to use their law where its not wanted theyed also rather kill people of other religions and if one works in your work place you can be sure that they will demand things from you or your employer

[zagor]

So you want to practice Islam, but without 90% of the conventions...

Why bother attaching yourself to any organized religion at all? I grew up in a Christian church but always thought the trinity thing was crap - a lot of denominations don't follow that.