Do you believe all religions are fundamentally the same?
Do you believe all religions are fundamentally the same?
Do you believe all religions are fundamentally the same?
I don't know, I don't like islam. Europes immigrant crisis. Still tried to give them a chance without reprimanding them about it. I recently met some non-radical islamists (me being an ex christian turned agnostic) and wellp. They were not okay. First of all, lying about the fact that they are muslim. Mind you these were not middle eastern people. Dude started to shame me for drinking a glass of wine. Mind you I've been drunk 3 times in my life. Dude didn't wanna introduce me to his parents because he was ashamed of my black clothes and im not muslim. He just lied lied lied to me about everything. Yes I am a butthurt woman xD also the thirsty looks of middle eastern people and hateful looks of covered women... sorry if my comment is racist, but I am just speaking of experience. And when you jump into the fire and get burned, you sure as hell won't jump into it again.
Buddhism is definitely not a religion it is something much better...
Buddha is our life life is our Buddha Buddha is our nature nature is our Buddha. Buddhism is not about God is not about Prophet is not about Holy book it's ALL about R e a l i t y of life β€
It is what it is, it is what you believe , don't make it hard, make your OWN set of beliefs. you won't be wrong. if you were to be wrong you wouldn't be here trust your YOU YOUR YOUNIVERSE.
My own set of believes is long but the first 2 important one I can share are
1. Happy and 2. Inner Peace.
Find the answer yourself. When you go to sleep close your eyes hear your own self talk to you hear your breathing in and out and listen listen to yourself whispering to you so dearly and kindly..
Even hinduism was not meant to be a religion its a way of life but now this topic is really chaotic in modern world because new world ideolgies
That's true! I agree. But that's a distraction.. Don't be a fool to get lost in a crowd from people who think they know everything.. You don't need to explain it to anyone as long as you are aware of itπππ
But the urge to show the path is unbearble
No. This is a point of view that is only embraced by milktoast "religious" people who want the emotional benefits of religion but not at the cost of offending anybody, and lazy atheists who just throw out the whole lot without even looking at them. All religions make fundamentally different truth claims. For example, I submit that it might maaaybe be consequential whether there is one god or many, whether morality is tied to god or separate, whether gods are good or evil or just selfish, whether gods are natural or supernatural, and so on. And your prompt was wrong; not all religions have a creation story and not all religions advance a set of morals, only the best ones.
What religion does not some form of a creation story?
@winniethepoah the church's of the flying spaghetti monster.
@spacefungus as an agnostic atheist I think you misunderstand my view. I don't stop looking for believe. But from all the religions I looked in, specially the organised ones there is one common problem. You consider something holy. And to consider something holy is to stop challenging that believe and stop progress. Therefore I feel the worst religions are the ones based on morals because I believe morals change over time. Because if the world changes our expectations of people should change.
The best religions are the ones that give people handles to guide but no rules. In that case guide get outdated and changed. I see settling for a religion as lazy because you just adapt a lifestyle with morals that was default and don't challenge yourself to look for your own solution.
Fundamentally they are created front he same urge to explain the world. It how they explain it is radically different. I love how multimode religion works because a God can be placeholder for a force of nature you don't understand. It's a variable you don't understand but you know is there.
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I do not consider that buddism and confucianism are religion. And Taoism is an hybrid one.
But to me these three are far more philosophy than religion.
I mean, religion are believing in some god that may blow your soul away if you mess with him.
The entire religion describes HOW you could mess with him, in order to make you avoid it.
Then it describe what will arrive to you if you mess with him.
They can all be summed up in " mess with me and you'll get pain for ever, do what i say and i'll welcome you in my realm".
It's a punitive way of thinking. Religions are based on the fear of death, and try to use it to keep people in a "proper way". But there rules are archaic and old timed. There rely no more on a realistic fact. Then yes for religions.
Buddhism is a philosophy that comes from hinduism. It don't rely on it, but don't reject it. It consider that human might respect gods, if they exist, as much as any human. Not more.
Buddhism is based on human. It's not made of punishment, cause inner rules relies on what you live, and not on what a supposed god could have said.
Buddhism only uses some religious concept, because it has been build by hinduists people. But it don't need hinduism. That's the reason why it's now adopted by chinese people, that don't believe nor recognize hinduism. And i'm not chinese, nor hinduist, and i consider myself as a buddism.
These religious concepts are just used to represent the wisdom, but you can avoid to use them without changing buddism at all.
And above all, the people that are respected in buddism are Buddhas, that are not gods to praise or pray, but human that understood their place in here. They are many, very differents from each others, and you're free to follow one, two, none, and to change if you feel you evolve in that way.
No promises, no true rule, just wisdom. Buddism is not a Dogma that unplug your brain, cause you build your own buddhism... It oblige you to plug your brain.
Let's have an example of a koan (buddhic injonction), that is a philosophical sentence made to help you understand Buddha, and build your wisdom :
"If you see the Buddha on the road,
Kill the Buddha"
I don't think you are entirely correct.
No.
I think one of the most ignorant things a person could possibly believe (whether in a cynical way, such as disparaging how so many people fall prey to superstition and fighting, or in "unifying" way, where the attempt is to show we are all the same and what differences there are are cosmetic).
It tends to be a position held either by religious people who want to believe that all religions lead to truth, because they are too delicate to stomach that idea that if one led was true, and truth us exclusive, that the others, by default, are false...
And by atheists, who desperately crave any position they can take to make them feel intellectually superior, while being so God damned stupid and full of themselves that they don't realize that spouting an opinion, while refusing to research the different religions to see if their opinion is correct (usually while claiming that religion is not worth their time to put that effort on, despite that claim being an acknowledgement of ignorance, and hypocritical, as they never shut the fuck up about religion...) is, in fact, them making an argument based on belief and their faith in that belief, and not based on factual reasoning, study, and truth seeking.
It is basically like saying Game Of Thrones and Seasame Street are basically the same because they are long running TV shows that captivate large audiences, with a diverse cast of characters, and independent plot lines that may or may not come together.
I mean... that's true? But it cuts so close to the surface that anyone who leaves their analysis there and makes their conclusion is nothing but an idiot.
The phrase "love thy neighbour as thy self" is probably the root of all faith. But do you know anyone, who actually practises that? How to even start? And how doea that make you a spiritual person? What is spirituality?
I don't know much about religion, but I've never heard a religious leader to answer these questions in a way, that makes sence.
Usually the explanation revolves around morality, like being good to others and performing certain rituals will earn you a good life on earth and a good afterlife somewhere else.
Sure, being moral and polite will help to deal with other people, but what does morality have to do with afterlife? And further more in many instances religious texts have been used to justify immoral actions. Still are.
I think it's good to be suspicious of spiritual leaders, but on the other hand there should be some kind of truth behind religious texts. After all it's such a big part of the human condition. Our entire culture evolved, in ome way or another, based on peoples thoughts about a higher force.
The Golden Rule isn't just the same across all religions; it's the same across all societies. It's nothing intrinsic to religion.
It's like saying that all religions tell you not to waste food or to not kill members of your own group without reason. Of course they say that, because that's just an intrinsic value to humans themselves. These rules exists with or without religion.
The golden rule is the same. It has been around for as long as human civilization and doesn't depend on a religion to exist.
That is a valid point! So in your opinion what is the biggest purpose for having religions?
It's a nice way to enforce rules my labeling them as moral or immoral. In the modern day, stoning gays to death would be considered monstrous by most, but if you label it as an act in favor of God then a lot of people start to think its OK. Saudi Arabia still thinks its OK because Islam justified the act and for most of Christian and Jewish history, so did most of the pre-enlightenment era of Europe.
It's also a good way to comfort yourself in the face of your self and loved one's mortality.
There are extremists in every group. There are still extremists in Christianity but it is true that since Christianity has gone through a few major reformations in its time that it has tried to adapt with the current times. I'm not sure if islam has gone through that same type of reformation and I know there are a lot of extremists groups that are taking forced control over the civilians in middle eastern countries. I firmly believe that because someone is muslim is does not automatically label them an awful person! I know many peaceful wonderful Muslims living in Canada who definitely do not believe in violent acts.
I hate when I hear people hating on Muslims. They should be hating on the extremist groups not the whole religion!! The religion itself is really not that different from all the rest. It maybe hasn't reformed the same way the others have but the torah has a lot of outdated context too!!
Religions aren't longlasting moral guidelines delivered from a deity. They are a reflection of the values and beliefs of the culture that developed them.
I don't hate all Muslims because most Muslims don't fully obey the Quran. But I do hate the Islamic religion because it teaches extremely terrible values and teaches Muslims to follow the leadership of a pedophile.
I don't hate all Jews because most Jews don't actually believe half the stuff in the Torah. But I will hate Judaism because of its complete intolerance of other people and because it condones slavery.
Good answer. I feel like a large portion of america hates all muslims and the whole islamic religion because of the current war on terrorism. Many of them came to north america and fled their countries specifically because they also disagreed with the extremist groups taking over their country. They should not be harassed and should still be allowed to practice their religion in the USA in peace.
It's like if you lived next to a German and you go up to them and harass them for being german because the nazis murdered many people. Just because someone is German does not automatically make them a nazi.
It's just sad to see such hate towards a religion.
And I agree no religious text should be taken literally but that's my own opinion.
No, I do not. While some of them may share similar moral guidelines and some may have similar creation stories, that doesn't necessarily make them all the same.
Some religions teach that the world around us and our sufferings are illusions. Others are basically just life philosophies which may or may not include a central relationship with the divine. Others however, such as Christianity, involve their central figure becoming man and living among us to announce repentance and reconciliation with God. And, if I'm not mistaken, Christianity is the only religion in which the coming of the central figure was foretold.
So no, all religions are not fundamentally the same. They might share similarites (some more than others), but that doesn't make them all the same.
Since you asked my opinion, I'll tell you what i think. All religion and cult has a firm set of morals that seem right to it's followers so, I am in no way degrading someone's religion or proving my beliefs as superior. However one good thing to meditate on is this, was there any other God except Christ who would sacrifice his life as a ransom for the good of his people? What about a God who would never abandon his people despite their shameful past? That gives you an idea of how Christianity is different than most. They try to live what they preach even though they fall at times.
No, I do not believe that they are all the same. I believe that most are fundamentally the same though. Let me give you an example of what I mean.
In almost every religion, man aspires to develop a relationship with god. This usually involves prayer, ritual and atonement for sins, and then living life in a way that the scriptures prescribe. Christianity is the only religion that I have found where god is approaching man to have a relationship. I don't have anywhere near enough space to explain what makes that such a huge deal, but it is.
Most religions ultimately lead to a belief in a being far smarter, better, far everything than us. Not all are the same though. Some religions say to kill others because they don't believe in the same religion, while others say to love that being despite it not believing in that religion. So no, they are NOT THE SAME.
Nope. The above quotes Matthew 7:12, but ignores the previous sentence in Matthew 7:11: "If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!" In other words, God is good, and you (we) are corrupted and evil. You can't save yourself, you can't even accurately discern what is right or wrong, you just end up serving yourself. He made a way, but it requires acceptance of his authority. And that requires belief. (Like I believe that school zone speed is backed by a cop and court and potentially angry grieving parents if I don't believe.)
I don't have much knowledge beyond the big 3 but from what I've heard of all of these yes, id say they all were created either by man, God or divine force in some way of bringing some order to the world. It's why, while I'm not really religious, I do think it has it's place in the world. People assume religion starts all these wars but that's just taking the blame away from man himself.
In a cosmic sense I suppose you could boil them down to a hey something in the sky made you
Worship it or well kill you or these days try to guilt trip you into worshipping it so we can have all your money
Basically religion is the most successful form of pyramid scheme ever designed
At the core, when it comes to human values, pretty much all religious have the same. There are changes in how you worship and how you go about daily life. But fundamentally, all the same.
Lying is a sin in most
Theft is a sin in most
Pride is a sin
Adultery is a sin in most
Caring for others is important
Charity
Being nice to others
Even being good to the environment
Etc etc
Aside from that comes what you can / can't eat, how many times a day you pray etc.
Its funny that the ideas that benefit a society manage to find its way into every religion. Its like we figured out the basics to have a thriving society and then added a bunch of stories to make it easier to digest. Then it all went sideways
In the end the major religions it's nothing more then a way to control people. Your post tho is cherry picking a tiny fragment of a much larger picture. While Christianity and Islam have quite a few similarities, Eastern religion has a different foundation. Dumbing it down or making it so shallow defeats the purpose of the question. An apple is a fruit so is a banana are they the same?
Have u read the hindhus gita
They can share a little common belief like kindness and generosity, but fundamentally they are 100% totally different since they all contradict each other and have different versions of God and way to heaven.
Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved and inherit eternal life. Period.
Why is your way, the only way?
@GreedyGiver651: Because that what Jesus himself said.
Apart from him there is no salvation.
You must repent, be baptized and believe in gospel of the lord which is his death on behalf of sins and resurrection, otherwise you will be damned into hell if you die in your sins. Period.
So if another religion had a person like Jesus who said his way is the only way to salvation. What makes Jesus anymore right then Bob (imaginary savior)
Also. Endinging your statements in "period" doesn't make you right, just arrogent sounding
@GreedyGiver651: You can freely reject the gospel of the lord Jesus Christ. I told what I told you already.
I know I'm saying. What makes right? Over others? Beause other people like Jesus say they are right
@GreedyGiver651: That Jesus is the Son of God and in him only is eternal life. God The Father through The Holy Spirit testifies of this truth and the gospel.
But there are other religions who claim similar
there are religions that justify genocide like islam, and others who say turn your other cheek like christianity. no comparison. only a biased, lazy, oversimplifying morron would state they are all the same.
I agree.
Though i agree Lol he is asking fumdametally not political motives and outcomed there is a lot of distortion in relegion
Some are, some aren't. Some share a similar history but have completely different teachings and ways of life. Some religions even need to go through a reformation to integrate to modern civilized culture, as they teach killing of others who don't share their ideology.
This is what religions actually teach these days. Back in the days it was right but now its shit
Right now on this earth/plane there is over 5000 gods being worshipped, ,,
But no worrys on yours is right yeah ,,, 🙄
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yeah, they're all going to "hell" if they break that rule.
agnostic more likely to go heaven if real and they don't break it
aethist can too. if they don't break the rule :)
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