What or who causes life in the body and is death a built in mechanism by God or by evolution or by other means?

[Cryptic-Game]

Do you think that life in the body happens because it stems more from God or more from evolution? Tell why.

Also, I didn't list both God and evolution because that's a contradiction. Many feel it isn't but let me explain why it is. God is heralded by many as the creator of mankind with all the functions put in place by him and not a process that leads up to the result. Evolution is heralded by many as a process that led up to life occurring, especially bodily evolution or body evolution, which is evolution of the body. No matter which of these is true, we know that the contradiction in each means that both God and evolution can't be true. That's an impossibility and nobody can make a serious argument as to how God and evolution can both be true. Even the death clause at the end of life differs. With God, death occurred because sin was chosen to be committed and with evolution, death occurred because evolution built in a death process that can't be denied. You see? Both are different and thus a contradiction. They can't both be true. Neither can be true but at most, only one can be true: either God or evolution

Please thoroughly explain what or who causes life to continue and explain why you think death occurs! Do you have 4 good arguments why if you are wrong as to how it makes a puncher's chance that an opposing view could be plausible?

God created life and sustains it but we must protect it

Evolution built in a life force to allow life to thrive but also built in a life destroyer so that evolution doesn't allow for the possibility of eternal life

Another answer but highly God oriented (name and explain)

Another answer but highly evolution oriented (name and explain)

Another answer but slightly God oriented (name and explain)

Another answer but slightly evolution oriented (name and explain)

Another answer that has nothing to do with God or evolution (name and explain)

[OfDeath]

In order to truly understand evolution, first you have to understand physics and chemistry. Without physics and chemistry, you don't get to biology. Everything in the entire universe is made from the same stuff. Your body and my body are made from the same things the planets and stars are all made of. No type of molecule lasts forever. Our bodies are made of cells which are fundamentally made of the same materials as everything in the universe. In our DNA, we have a built in mechanism (it's a long explanation how it is "built in") which tells our cells how many times they can "copy" themselves. The reason some animals live longer than others is a result of natural selection. An animal like a fruit fly which lives a very short time has by chance been able to successfully reproduce quickly and therefore never evolved genes which allow it's cells to divide more times than they do so it passed on genes for cells which don't divide as many times. In short, the DNA which is responsible for cell regeneration breaks down early.
Humans on the other hand have DNA which is more resistant to damage and can carry out instructions to keep regenerating cells longer. By chance, animals with slightly sturdier DNA have been naturally selected over millions and millions of years and kept passing on "better" DNA until we end up with humans who can live much longer than fruit flies (And animals like Galapagos tortoises even longer).
So the answer to your question is that both life and death is a result of evolution by natural selection (and natural selection also occurs in physics and chemistry in its own way) and there is real evidence for it. That's why we believe it and we will continue to ask questions, test the intricacies of it and yet discover even more about it.

[Cryptic-Game]

Is God undiscoverable? Even if God exists, would you think it's safe to assume He doesn't unless there's evidence suggesting that He might?

I don't understand how evolution could allow for death though. That puzzles me. I thought evolution was suppose to achieve eternal life by now since the process should be getting stronger and not simply just longer.

Is there evolutionary proof that not dying is impossible? If so, tell how.

[OfDeath]

Is god undiscoverable? I don't know. If it doesn't exist it is. If it does exist, it should be discoverable. Until we have a reason for it to exist, we can't say it does.
Natural selection doesn't quite work that way. It goes by selective pressure. Animals which needed longer to live in order to reproduce or to reproduce enough times to allow some of their offspring to live evolved to live longer because only the ones which lived slightly longer survived. The rest died without passing on their genes. Some other reasons for why an animal evolved the way it did are also just blind luck. Random. For example an animal with a deformity which have it fat toes or something reproduced and then that species lived in an environment where fat toes didn't help or hinder so the gene kept being passed on. Animals evolve and also devolve. For example, humans all used to have big, strong teeth to deal with our ancient diet. Since the advent of readily available processed food, we have actually started to lose our strong teeth as people with weaker teeth have been able to survive and reproduce.
Biological organisms make up for the death of individuals with the ability to reproduce. We make copies of ourselves. That is a form of eternal life. Eternal as in as long as the conditions which allow life persist.
Ironically, I think the future of our species will rely on intelligent design. Not by god but by ourselves. Gene editing will allow us to change our DNA so our cells can regenerate more times and AI will be used to supplement our obsolete brains. We invent technology faster than we naturally evolve (or devolve) and I think we will eventually invent ourselves extinct but natural selection will continue among artificial being which will continue to improve themselves by selecting their best qualities and making better and better copies.

[OfDeath]

Ok so I realised I didn't directly answer this point/question you had: "Even if God exists, would you think it's safe to assume He doesn't unless there's evidence suggesting that He might?"
So I will do my best. I don't particularly see any danger in assuming god doesn't exist. The reason is that since we have no credible evidence that God exists, we also have no evidence of what god would like if it did. We don't know whether god would want us to be Muslims and believe Muhammad had a flying horse and to wait until the sun goes down before we eat at certain times of the year. We also don't know if god would want us to ceremonially eat crackers and drink wine while proclaiming it's the body of a first century Jew. We also don't know that God would want us to shave our heads and walk down the street in groups chanting "Hare Krishna". It's because we don't know this that we shouldn't worry about it and we should focus on using what we actually do know to make our discoveries. We can test guesses but when they don't come up with results and others do, we shouldn't dwell on the ones which have shown nothing and live in fear that they might actually be real. It's irrational.

[Cryptic-Game]

Matt Dillahunty said some gods can be ruled out from existing but some can't. He is a claimed atheist. Do you hold the same views as him about that? He is convinced that some gods can't exist but can't say the same about all gods.

[OfDeath]

No. I disagree with him. I think all gods are equally nonexistent but to say you can rule any of them out completely requires them to be disproved and that can't be done. You can't disprove Thor anymore than Yahweh. It sounds contradictory of me to say you can't completely rule them out but you can't assume they exist but that is my position. You've heard this argument from me before and you don't like it. You can't 100% rule out werewolves or ghost trains but you won't find many adults who will say they believe in them. All imaginary things are equally imaginary. Something imaginary only becomes real if it is proven.
I personally feel the same way about some scientific theories. For example string theory. String theory has absolutely zero evidence to back it up. Extra dimensions only exist in science fiction novels and movies so far. To be able to produce just one particle which could even hint that string theory is true would require a hadron collider the circumference of the milky way. It's a cool idea but it's fantastical genius. If you are clever enough, you can tell a story with mathematics just as spooky and weird as you can with words.
However, string theory is based on mathematics which are derived from real world observations. They could be seeing something and be wrong about what it is but they are at least actually seeing something. That's the difference between scientific theory and faith without reason.

[Cryptic-Game]

But if it is a contradiction, it should be easy to rule out. Some gods potentially existing would be a contradiction. The way he words it is that he is convinced that some gods don't exist, meaning he thinks there is evidence that they don't exist but some he is just unconvinced that any gods do exist.

[OfDeath]

I'd have to see the exact examples he used to comment on them. I've never heard of that guy. I don't watch videos of god/no god debaters because they are always just full of examples I've already thought of and I have made my mind up on the subject. There would need to be solid evidence to convince me otherwise.

[WadeDanielSmith2]

Death is a built-in mechanism.

Over our lifetimes, Oxygen actually decays certain cellular mechanisms, including our DNA, yet we cannot live moment to moment without respiration through oxygen.

This is caused by a fundamental law of physics, and proves God always wanted humans to die. We are therefore designed to be mortal and designed to die.

[Suryansh8765]

Evolution is best explained by evolutionary biologists out there. There's no such thing as God. All exists is consciousness. When death happens one should ask whose death it is. You aren't your body, you aren't the elements, you aren't your senses, you aren't your ego, you aren't your mind, and you aren't your intellect as well.

Nature keeps spawning and dissolving all beings again and again. How does a child know what death is, when a child is born it sees everything as one single consciousness. Who spreads the ideas of birth and death in child's mind, us humans through language.

Through language you understand what a boy is, what a girl is, what a chair is, what a screen is, what a tree is, what an animal is. If a child never knows about what a body is, then how can death exist for the child itself.

Body dies and is born again, 1 out of 7.5 billion has died, 1 out of 7.5 billion is born again. Bodies will keep going through the cycle of rebirth and re-death.

Whose body it is, is the question?

[strateguy632]

god.