How to Objectively Derive The Ten Commandments without appealing to the Bible. What do you Unbelievers think of that?

[Wade12345]

Very simple. The Golden Rule and Silver Rule, which are obviously correlated together, combined with your own Self-Preservation instinct can derive all Moral Truths.

Murder:
You wouldn't want to be murdered, therefore you should not murder someone else.

Note: Capital Punishment is not "murder". Capital Punishment is the justified killing of a criminal worthy of death, such as a... murderer or war criminal or rapist. For some reason, Liberals can't admit some people are so evil they should be put to death, and some people are even so evil they will go to Hell forever when they die. Capital Punishment obeys the Silver and Golden Rule. How? Because KILLING the evil perpetrator protects the next would-be victim from being harmed by the CRIMINALS.

Rape:
You wouldn't want to be raped, therefore you should not rape someone else.

Adultery/Fornication:
You wouldn't want to be cheated on, therefore you should not cheat on someone else.

Fornication is encompassed by Adultery. IN the Hebrew Language, the word translated "Adultery" can have several meanings. It can refer to the English word "adultery" or it can refer to Fornication or it can refer to Idolatry. It turns out all three of those meanings work in this commandment, because elsewhere Premarital Sex and Casual Sex is forbidden. Well why forbid premarital sex? If you were a child you'd want two qualified parents, wouldn't you? You wouldn't want to be born into a broken family if you had your best interest at heart, you'd want two parents who really love you and love one another. Therefore, I can derive the sanctity of Marriage and a ban on Premarital Sex by using the Silver Rule.

Theft:
Same deal, you wouldn't want someone stealing your stuff, so don't steal other people's stuff.

False Accusation and Lying in General:
Same deal. You wouldn't want it done to yourself, so don't do it to someone else.

These arguments apply to all people, so they are not "Subjective". Commandments are Objective.

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The fact I can prove Objective Moral Laws exist PROVES an actual CREATOR exists and those Objective Morals are actually properties of His own Existence. That is, God cannot violate His own commandments or covenants.

Sabbath Day:
Simple. Worship God equally every day, because HE ALONE is WORTHY.

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First Commandment:
There is only ONE "The True Creator" so you should only worship The ONE True God... and Only Him, and you should check your facts to be sure the one you worship is the TRUE one.

Second Commandment:
Simple, an idol or graven image is not God, therefore you should not bow down to it. Doing so is insanity.

[SnakeBoop]

I mean. Atheist here
But if they are objective. then surely you cannot go around saying that capital punishment isn't murder (since by the definition of murder, it would be classed as it).
But if they're objective, you should not be stating it as if its facts anyway... or did I miss something?

[SnakeBoop]

how does showing you have an opinion prove anything again?

[SnakeBoop]

okay, again, posting an opinion based on a book or

[SnakeBoop]

or quoting from said book... does not equal a fact.

[Wade12345]

Capital Punishment is not murder and is actually a God-given commandment since the beginning of time.

"Whosoever sheds man's blood by man shall his blood be shed."

Capital Punishment is rationally prescribed for quite a number of crimes that modern governments don't even define as "crimes":
Rape,
the sin of Witchcraft, encompassing both "Devil Worship" and Atheism
Blasphemy (Witchcraft usually goes hand in hand with Blasphemy anyway)

Witchcraft is not a valid religion, and neither is any other form of Devil Worship. How can worshiping the antithesis of God be a valid religion? It can't be, because it's literally the exact opposite of the Truth. They were rightfully put to death in the ancient world.

That is not murder.

Capital Punishment is the justified and lawful killing of a Criminal worthy of Death as prescribed by God himself at times.

Murder is the unlawful killing of an innocent person as forbidden by God.

You do realize the word "Kill" and "Murder" don't mean the exact same thing?

Murder is an unlawful killing.

Another example of a lawful killing is when evil rulers take over the land and the righteous rebels overthrow the evil government and execute the evil rules. So when righteous people kill evil people in warfare or due to war crimes trials, that is not murder, that is capital punishment prescribed by God.

You are very ignorant of both the English Language and the Hebrew Language. I admit I also only know a few words in Hebrew, vocabulary is my weakest subject, so it is difficult for me to learn a new language, but the point is you liberals are willfully ignorant of obvious Objective Morals..

[SnakeBoop]

again, you're busy saying its all objective, yet answering and demanding YOUR opinion is truth and/or fact?
dude, you're being a hypocrite.

Imagine also trying to "validate" murdering those of a different religion.
Yawn, you bible bashers are all the same

[Wade12345]

Actually, you don't even know the definition of the word "Fact".

1) A Fact is any piece of information which happens to be True.
2) All real words are facts in and of themselves.

When multiple Facts and Arguments support a conclusion and strongly suggest that same conclusion, the likelihood of said conclusion being wrong goes down exponentially.

All rational law is based on some combination of the Silver Rule and Golden Rule plus self preservation. Civilization itself is only possible because of those facts. Human beings are not very good survivalists individually, heck most of us couldn't survive in the "wild" anymore. Human beings lack animal instincts and lack sensory perception to the degree of animals, we aren't as fast as cats nor strong as bears, etc. But what we lack in physical or sensory attributes we make up for that through cooperation, love, and problem solving, hopefully.

Love is Objective. Without Love civilization couldn't exist. Many aspects of our own education and therefore intelligence would not exist without love. You learn to speak, read, and write at such a young age because your parents loved you enough to either teach you themselves, or put you in pre-school... where someone else loved you enough to teach you. So without love civilization is impossible. Therefore, Love is an Objective Moral Principle.

[SnakeBoop]

exactly.
religions and their deities are not facts. so...
lordy XD

[Wade12345]

You may hate the Bible, but in this case the Bible got that correct, Love is the fulfillment of the Objective Moral Law of God.

Without Agape Love none of us would even exist, as Agape is the very reason God Created humans in the first place, and Agape is the reason Godly women or at least half-decent women choose to have children.
Without Charity Love, social security wouldn't exist, and orphans and widows funds wouldn't exist either, and all poor, sick, or even slightly unfortunate people would starve to death in a matter of weeks.
Without Phileo Love there would be no friendships.

Do you see how the precise selection of Words Matters?

The Greeks had nine words for different types of "Love", and if you used the wrong word in the wrong context you looked like a fool.

Contemporary Americans have ONE word for Love, and they misapply it as really being "Lust".

What LGBTQ's call "Love" is in fact "sexual perversion" aka "Insanity".
What most Straight people call "Love" is in fact "Lust" which is forbidden by the Tenth Commandment, which again is derivable from the Silver Rule.

Do you know what the word "Derivable" means?

I can start with a statement I suspect may be true, and then test it's validity with statements already known to be True.

That's not "circular reasoning". That happens to be how ALL LOGICAL PROOFS WORK.

[SnakeBoop]

lol. unless you're a bible basher, then gays and the like are not insane. its a shame you're letting a fictional character and a outdated religion dictate your view on that. sad indeed

[Wade12345]

More on Logical Proofs, which you Atheists are ignorant of or else intentionally lying about it.

The definition of a Triangle is provable by Logic alone. In fact, it is physically impossible to create a real Triangle in the real world, but we know the mathematical and geometric laws that govern Triangles anyway. For example, all triangles have 3 sides and 3 vertices. All Triangle's angles add up to 180 degrees. This is 100% PROVEN true in any High School geometry course, even though it is physically impossible to draw a true triangle on a piece of paper. You cannot see nor touch nor taste nor otherwise sense a "real" triangle, because they don't exist in nature... yet we know all of the mathematical and geometric laws which govern their shape and orientation, etc.

Thus physical evidence of a thing is not needed to prove its existence and properties when that thing's very definition is sufficient to satisfy the concept of Proof.

Thus you do not need to see nor hear nor touch God to know and prove he exists, and know and prove His moral Codes, and no he's not hiding under some rock.

[Wade12345]

Most books are in FACT written to organize a set of related FACTS. That's the original purpose of writing. People in the ancient world didn't write for fictional entertainment, they wrote literal and metaphorical truths to the best of their understanding.

Did you know a True quotation of an untruth is nevertheless a FACT?

Probably not.

Anyway, back on LGBTQ:

Your Gender is Scientifically defined by what Chromosomes you were Created with.

Gender is not subjective, It is not determined by your "feelings".

You are what you were born as, and self mutilation to change how God created somebody is just another form of insanity. "Patching" one form of insanity with another form of insanity just makes them twice as insane.

Read a Biology Text Book you hypocrite.

Books are written to preserve and organize Truth.

Read World Book Encyclopedia, preferrably one published in the 1970's before liberal RETARDS highjacked the definition of the word TRUTH... your gender is determined by your X and Y chromosomes, which determines whether you are born with a penis or vagina.

I should not need to explain this to anybody, but your entire generation is RETARDED and needs to be rebuked night and day every day of the year just to keep you in line.

[Wade12345]

You do NOT need physical evidence to prove most true statements as being TRUE, given enough other true statements about the same subject matter.

We do this all the time in real Science, Geometry, and Mathematics. You can test and prove one True Statement by using another True statement as a test or proof.

FBI profilers can prove a person is lying or telling the truth just by Objective Reason without even needing evidence, because most lies are actually illogical statements while all Truths are Logically derivable.

Pink flying unicorned Elephants cannot exist, because by definition Elephants are not unicorned and don't have wings.

Understand the concept?

No, I know you don't understand.

[Wade12345]

It is NOT correct to say that a Unicorn is a Horse with wings and a single horn.

It IS correct to say that a Unicorn is a fictional animal which is LIKE a horse, except it has wings and a single horn.

The exact words matter. The exact sequence of words matters, and the exact stress and emphasis on each word matters. I wish this forum actually had more markup tools on it for that reason.

You cannot define TRUTH by what every ridiculous unbelieving fool can be convinced of.

You can define Truth Logically, and that's exactly how electronic computers work too. An electronic computer derives all computation from bit operations which represent a series of true/false statements. All data and algorithms in a computer are dealt with that way.

Have you ever seen the movie "Contact"?

Communicating with an Alien or a foreigner or God himself requires that the speaker and listener understand one another's words for "True' and "False". Otherwise you cannot even correct one another's translation errors.

In the case of communicating with God, you don't get to correct God anyway. He corrects you.

Carl Sagan, who was consulted for "Contact", was an Agnostic, but he had five children, so I'm pretty sure he knew the scientific definition of Gender, and if he was still alive he'd probably be rebuking your evil generation too, even though he didn't even believe in God.

[Wade12345]

You don't even know the difference between a statement of opinion and a statement of fact.

All opinions are facts. Some of them just happen to be untrue statements.

Not all facts are opinions.

Logical argumentation is not a matter of opinion.

You can use Mathematical principles to solve logical statements in the English language. For example, the concept of the Squeeze Theorem in Limit Calculus can apply to textual truths too, it's called reducto ad absurdum.

You can prove a hypothetical statement is true, even without physical evidence, by simply showing all other alternatives to that hypothesis lead to absurdities.

God absolutely exists.

the only two alternatives to that statement would require:

Either the universe came from nothing or no reason.

Rene Descartes formally proved "from nothing comes nothing" hundreds of years ago.

or

The Universe is self eternal.

the Hubble Constant proves the UNIVERSE IS NOT SELF ETERNAL.

Therefore I have ruled out both hypothetical alternative's to God's existence using PURE LOGIC COMBINED WITH HUBBLE CONSTANT.

therefore an actual Creator God exist, and believe it or not, his Laws are not Subjective.

[Wade12345]

1) The Universe absolutely began to exist a finite duration in the past for no internal reason whatsoever, and you don't even need Hubble Constant to prove this statement either. Edgar Allen Poe proved the Universe was not self-eternal several decades before Einstein's works, and before Edwin Hubble discovered the physical evidence of that proof in galaxy motion.. How did Poe prove that? Easy: An infinite Universe would actually have a WHITE sky at night. The real Universe has a black sky with a few stars at night. Therefore, the real Universe is not infinite.

2) There is nothing within the Universe with the potential to Create a Universe. In Fact, Newton's Laws forbid that from happening, "Energy cannot be created or destroyed*"

*but since Newton believed in God, it's obvious this law does not prohibit God himself from Creating things... otherwise Newton would have been contradicting himself.

3) Therefore, the Universe was Created by "Someone" who predates the Universe.

4) Therefore, GOD ABSOLUTELY EXISTS as THE TRUE CREATOR.

This is Logically sound, and whether or not you or anyone else can be convinced to believe it.

The Truth of a matter is not determined by how many people may be convinced to believe and accept that fact.

A Logical statement is something that is TRUE whether or not I or you or anyone else can be convinced to believe it.

I am not able to "convince" you of anything. You must convince yourself of the Truth.

I am REQUIRED to Present the Truth to you at all times.

God has TOLD ME to "Speak no word that is not true."

Not simply, "thou shalt not lie", but literally the Oath Rod Oath from the Wheel of Time.

"Speak No Word that is not True."

You should not even propose a Hypothesis to another person except as an exercise in either proving or disproving that hypothesis, as proposing an untrue statement makes one a liar, even if it's done in ignorance.

[Wade12345]

Let me explain how certain I am that God exists.

God absolutely rebuked me for using "Process of elimination" on an Eastern European History test-out examination, because I got a very high score on the test and successfully "tested out" of the course, even though I did not know any of the correct answers on the entire test.

I was able to solve the Test using pure logic without actually knowing the correct answers. For that reason, God absolutely told me I FAILED the test, because the test wasn't to find a flaw in the test design, the test was supposed to be whether or not I knew the material, and I absolutely did not know the material until they gave me all the correct answers, because the test was in multiple choice format.

God told me exams should be "fill in the blank" and even I. Q. tests should not be multiple choice, those should be "fill in the blank".

Understand?

The actual ALMIGTY GOD speaks to me and corrects me when I do something morally wrong, and he corrects me when I do something wrong in ignorance too.

99% of the time, when I sin, I don't need to be rebuked by someone else, because God himself will either rebuke me in a dream, or rebuke me through my own conscience.

I know you people do not even bother trying to find the Truth, because you don't even have the same definition of Truth as any rational person would have.

Truth is not Subjective.
Morality is not Subjective.

Neither of those statements is an opinion.

[Wade12345]

An opinion is something that really is Subjective, such as your favorite color.

Your gender is NOT an opinion and is not Subjective. Your Gender is Factually Objectively Scientifically determined by your penis or lack thereof, which is itself determined by your X and/or Y chromosomes..

You cannot redefine the Biological Science term "Gender" in some insane liberal quest to "normalize" insanity, sexual perversion, self-mutilation, and other falsehoods.

Words have God-ordained meaning, and the meaning of the word is immutable, whether or not you are aware.

If you redefine the word "religion" then you don't even know what the First amendment was about. If you redefine the word "Person", as the Supreme Court did in Roe v. Wade, then you can UNLAWFULLY force legalization of Abortion.

a fetus is a human being. It is not a fully developed human being, but it is a person nonetheless.

the 14th amendment reads, in part, "No person shall be deprived of life... EXCEPT as punishment for a Crime."

So a rational reading of the 14th amendment shows ALL ABORTIONS ARE ILLEGAL.

Understand?

Yes, you can have ONE generation of seven evil judges on the Supreme Court who can thereby brainwash everyone into rejecting God and his objective morals, and thereby screw up an entire civilization for nearly perpetual generations to come.

It happened in Israel several times. the judges and the priests turned against God and then everyone else turned against God. One insane leader can screw up everyone if everyone is already self-inclined to error to begin with.

[Wade12345]

That Hell is a very real place may surprise you.

That abortionists and LGBTQ people go to Hell, and given their inclination to never repent, they may even be in Hell for eternity. That may surprise you.

That both Christians and Jews believe the vast MAJORITY of humans who ever lived went to Hell, either for eternity or at least until they somehow came to repentance, may surprise you, but Jesus literally said that. "Broad is the way that leads to destruction and many go in there. Straight is the way that leads to eternal life, and FEW there be that find it."

So for you Christians and atheists, I'm just telling you every historical evidence about the doctrine of Hell is that MOST HUMANS WHO EVER LIVED GO THERE, AND MANY OF THEM GO THERE FOREVER. MOREOVER, it's entirely their own fault.

You can derive eternal punishment for the case of eternal unrepentance. If a person REFUSES to repent, then there's no reason for God to forgive them, much less trust them again.

[SnakeBoop]

🤣🤣🤣 yawn

[Wade12345]

For you Christians who may read this, your god-man, Jesus did not say "believe in me and be saved".

He said, "Not everyone who says unto me "lord, lord," shall enter into Heaven, but he who DOETH the will of the Father."

That's a present progressive verb. Meaning, according to Jesus, salvation is not determined by any alleged statement of faith. salvation is determined by an ONGOING PATTERN OF CONTINUALLY DOING GOOD WORKS. i. e. 'the Will of the Father". Present progressive "Doeth" (an archaic conjugation from older versions of the English language) holds a part of Truth which the modern English language lacks. "doeth" means "an ongoing and continual pattern of doing a thing".

The fact is 90% of most people who call themselves "christians" have never even read two books of the Bible and cannot list ANY basic tenets of the Christian religion.

the most important virtue in christianity is Agape Love.
the next most important FACT of christianity is all christians believe Jesus was God in the Flesh and died on a cross to forgive sins and rose from the dead on the third day. If you don't believe that, you are NOT a christian, no matter what else you claim to believe or disbelieve. You're some other type of religionist for better or for worse.

I am not a Christian any more, because I reject the notion that Jesus was God in the Flesh. He could not be the "fulfillment of the Torah" because he claimed to be God in the Flesh, but the Torah and common sense repeatedly forbid God from being incarnate in the Flesh. (Numbers 23:19) etc.

so DON'T believe in Christianity. Christianity is a cult.

DO believe in an Almighty Objectively Moral God.

[Wade12345]

When Samuel stated, "rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft" that's a simile. It means the two things are not identical, but they are akin to one another.

what forms of rebellion are like witchcraft?

Witchcraft as understood from context in the Bible is "Devil Worship" either directly or indirectly.

Atheism is indirect Devil Worship even though they deny both God and the Devil exist.

Why do I say that? They willfully and knowingly deny obvious fundamental Truth, such as the definition of Goodness and Evil, God's very existence, Objective Truth, etc. And so they are "worshiping" anything but the truth, they are thereby worshiping the "Father of Lies", namely the Devil. Whether or not they intend to do so, and whether or not they admit that after the fact. IN most cases, all the lies Atheists tell are motivated by an irrational unjustified "defense" of unrepentant surface sins.

For example most homosexuals I've ever met tend to be Atheists and Agnostics, because you can't be a homosexual for very long and abide in God's presence. God will rebuke you to your face, and if you reject Him he will CAST YOU OUT like the DEVIL you are, and once you reject Him one time, he is NOT obligated to ever speak to you again in all of eternity, except to send you to Hell.

[Wade12345]

If you had a friend who always trespassed your property over and over, you'd get pissed off and tend to stop associating with that person. God is the same way. If you break his Laws often enough and in a bad enough way, He MAY choose to wash his hands of you. He MAY even have Objective Moral Reason to take your LIFE earlier than you otherwise would have died, just to send you to HELL one day sooner than you otherwise would have arrived there. Depends on how evil and unrepentant you happen to be.

Believe me. I've actually been sent to Hell before in a Vision, which was surprising. I was let out after a few seconds in the Furnace of the fires by an Angel, but the point is I got out by the skin of my teeth an dmore importantly the Grace of God.

I have lived my entire life to Honor God, and I almost lost my soul, so I'm warning you Atheists and fake believers, you are all in for a RUDE AWAKENING when you die some day in the not too distant future. When you bust Hell wide open, because you never even tried to learn nor obey the truth, He isn't going to be so forgiving to you.

[Wade12345]

How and why do you ignorantly think labeling everything you disagree with as an "opinion" somehow disproves those claims?

Simply labelling all claims contrary to your own beliefs as "opinion" does not disprove those claims.

You are being completely ridiculous.

Goodness is Objective, and anyone who disbelieves that is not sane.

You cannot prove that without first appealing to some other words related to Goodness, for example Agape Love.

Because of the way you liberals pervert the very language you speak, one cannot even speak the truth to you without first proving you are both using the same definitions of the words being discussed.

You atheists don't use a rational definition of the term "Gender". You do not use the historical definition of the term "gender" either, because you have TWISTED the Truth so much until it is no longer The Truth. that's where the word "wicked" comes from, it literally means "to twist the truth into a lie" and is related to the Wicker Basket term.

The term "wicked" in contemporary language has itself been perverted to mean something that is GOOD i. e. "badass". Which is a perversion of language.

A statement is WICKED if it is a LIE disguised as being Truthful.

A person is WICKED if they engage in WICKEDNESS.

Evil takes many forms. there's more than one type of evil and perhaps multiple methods to each basic type of evil. Paul even called some sinners, "Inventers of Evil things", in other words, some people are so evil they literally sit around and think of new ways to offend God or hurt other people intentionally.

"inventers of evil things".

[Wade12345]

You must know something about Objective Goodness to even postulate the fact that such a thing as an "inventer of evil things" exists. that human beings are so evil they have the power to invent new types of evil may surprise you, but that's how free will works.

You are one of them. You invented the evil lie that claims "all opinions are falsehoods if they claim to be truthful". You invented it several posts before I made this post. You invented it years ago in your early childhood, and you've rejected God and every word of Truth ever since then.

[Wade12345]

The term "wicked" refers to the process of "twisting" or 'distorting" the TRUTH until you no longer have a true statement.

For example, LGBTQs do this be REDEFINING the term "goodness" and the term "gender" and simply ignoring SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR GENDER'S OBJECTIVITY.

So LGBTQ is EVIL because it is based on LIES which are specifically type of Evil called "wickedness". As the christian Apostolic author once said of LGBTQs, they "change the Truth into a Lie," and again "All Liars have their part in the Lake of Fire".

for this reason it is not possible to be an LGBTQ and a believer in True God at the same time, at least not for very long. Either he's going to rebuke you and correct you, or else you'll give up and fall totally away.

Anyway, you want evidence of "Divine Counsel"?

Paul was onto something when he sad LGBTQ's "change the truth into a lie".

They do it by redefining the concept of Truth (claiming morality is Subjective) and redefining the concept of Gender (which is an outright LIE), and then redefining the concept of "equal rights"... which is also a lie.

You do not have a "God given right" to be an LGBTQ. You have a God-given right to either marry and produce offspring through love, or remain celibate.

[Wade12345]

Human beings do not have the power to redefine "truth" and in fact God himself cannot redefine Truth.

Truth cannot contradict Truth.

You cannot re-define the word "gender" to justify lgbtqs wicked lifestyles.

God objectively defined all words in all languages from the foundation of reality. You people are so used to just believing whatever NONSENSE you want to believe so that you wouldn't recognize God if he appeared to you in person anyway.

I wouldn't expect God to look like an old man even if he did appear in human form, God is immortal, so he should not be "Old".

I wouldn't expect God to look like a human anyway. There's no good reason to believe humans are somehow God's highest creation in the universe, even if we are his highest creation on Earth, so we probably are NOT physically created in the image and likeness of God.

I am not claiming God is a Xel Naga, but just for example, I couldn't prove God didn't look more like a Xel Naga than a human, because I've never yet seen whatever graphical or pictoral representation God may present himself as to me. For all I know, he very well may look more like a Xel Naga than a human. Or for all I know, Humans might actually be his highest creation and maybe he does look like a human or there could be any number of other possibilities. Maybe he changes his appearance to suit the viewer even.

We're so used to Star Trek portraying all intelligent beings as humanoid so that we forget there is no good reason to limit intelligent beings to our own morphology, nevermind God himself.

You atheists wouldn't recognize the Truth nor enlightenment if it jumped up and bit you in the rear.

the fact you reject all claims of God's existence before you even rationally understand them shows you are not at all enlightened.

An enlightened person ACCEPTS the truth even if they initially disagree with it.
A darkened and evil person REJECTS the truth regardless of how much evidence is presented.

[SnakeBoop]

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[CountessSarah]

That's not objectivity. Because you're still requiring the opinion of an individual to establish that 'You wouldn't want X'.
Learn what objectivity means, first, then try again.

Though I will commend you for at least /trying/ to avoid argumentum-ad-bibble.

[AndrésC64]

I agree. But you can objectively evaluate the "goodness" of an action with respect to a desired outcome. For example, if your desired outcome is to live a long life, then it would be "bad" to drink battery acid. If your desired outcome is to get along with people, then you can objectively say that it would be "bad" to steal from them or rape them or murder them. None of those require a god. And even what he said does not require a god. We are social creatures. We understand that to live in a society we need to cooperate. Even other animals such as monkeys, rats, dogs, chimps, etc have a concept of fairness and getting along. Again, none of that requires a god.

[CountessSarah]

No. You cannot objectively evaluate 'goodness'.

[AndrésC64]

You can with respect to wanting to achieve a specific goal. You can absolutely objectively say that drinking battery acid is not good if you want to live long.

[CountessSarah]

That example's not quite the same.
Battery acid is objectively harmful if consumed, sure.
But 'good' and 'bad' are inherently subjective terms.
You're half right, but some of your word choices are wrong.

[AndrésC64]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/YBX162owQf0

The Euthyphro Dilemma asks: do the gods love good action because it is good, or is good action good because it is loved by the gods?

[msc545]

You DO realize that nobody really reads religious posts on GaG, right?

[EmmaMary]

So what fucking BULLSHIT are you ranting on about this time?

[SnakeBoop]

@EmmaMary seriously, right? XD someone needs to put him back into the insane asylum

[EmmaMary]

@SnakeBoop

It really is about fucking time they banned ALL FUCKING RELIGIOUS PLATFORMS from this forum... Period.

[Wade12345]

Moderator ban this trash. This Godless whore always joins my threads and throws baseless insults and lies all the time, and I'm getting sick of it.

[SnakeBoop]

XD shame they don't ban the god basher whores instead. be a much nicer platform.

[Wade12345]

It's really about time real believers in God stand up and FIGHT for what's right, and if that involves eventually executing Atheists for the crime of blasphemy and spreading false sciences then so be it.

[EmmaMary]

@Wade12345

Certainly, I can delete All of this fucking nonsense you continuously spout on about... Would you like me to do this?

[EmmaMary]

@Wade12345

Will you please at least have the common courtesy to reply... Thank you.

[OfDeath]

Do it. Suggesting execution for a victimless crime like blasphemy, (only labeling it a crime because it lamentably still is in some backward theocracies) is crossing a line. This is a potential incitement of violence, hate speech directed at a specific group of people and a reprehensible example of pernicious extremism. This guy needs to be removed from the site.

[EmmaMary]

@OfDeath

@Wade12345 Seems to have suddenly lost his ability to type anything further, and his "good manners".

So much for being one of "God's so-called servants". lmfao

[CountessSarah]

Semi-related...
Wade, where is that team of lawyers you threatened me with over a year ago?
I keep expecting to hear from them any day now.

[OfDeath]

Hopefully the loss is permanent.

[EmmaMary]

@OfDeath

Sadly I have a feeling that might be Wishful Thinking.

[AndrésC64]

@wade12345W Wow. You'd fit right in in an Islamic Republic. Maybe join Isis