In the Name of Equality, Women Should Be Compensated for Their Suffering

[Anonymous]

There is talk about including women in the draft. The thing is, that is one of the few benefits of being female that help balance the many other negative aspects.

Some negative aspects are obvious. Bleeding from our genitals & cramping for 25% of our reproductive-life, being at constant risk of pregnancy, having to endure pregnancy and birth in order for access to biological children. The risk of being raped, & potentially being forced to carry a child to term & give birth against our will, by anti-abortion laws.

But there are also others.

Consistent studies show that women:

Experience more intense & more frequent pain than men (x) (x)

Experience more intense, more numerous, and more frequent bodily symptoms than men (x)

Are overrepresented in several chronic pain conditions, such as migraine and tension-type

headaches, temporomandibular disorders, fibromyalgia, and irritable bowel syndrome, with female to male ratios ranging from 2:1 to 9:1 (x)

Exhibit greater sensitivity to noxious stimuli (x)

Experience much more stress than men, and are much more likely than men to report physical and emotional symptoms of stress (x)

Experience many less orgasms than men (x)

Show less brain activity to positive visual stimuli & greater sensitivity to negative visual stimuli (x)

Experience more frequent sadness, anxiety, anger, malaise, and aches (x)

Experience PTSD at more than twice the frequency of men (x)

Experience more frequent depression (x)

Experience 30% more distress than men (x)

Including women in the draft will only tip this suffering gap further, thereby producing even further inequality in suffering.

I will agree with including women in any occurring draft if the following happens: Women are compensated in other ways for all the suffering that they go through.

Both genders should have equal quantity of advantages.

So. What do you all think?

How can we compensate women for all the suffering they go through?

(By the way, don't bring up things like "men get murdered much more often than women." That's only relevant for 1% of men, 99% of men don't get murdered.)

[SovereignessofVamps]

I honestly kind of agree but I love this: "men get murdered much more often than women." That's only relevant for 1% of men, 99% of men don't get murdered.'

I never thought about ti that way before! Excellent point.

[myTake Owner]

Thanks for expressing your agreement! This post got 4 likes, 2 from girls and 2 from guys, but no one is speaking up!

[SovereignessofVamps]

I just liked it too! I don't think people think about this much.

[Jeeevan]

Lol no one speaks about it because it hardly happens to all women. Most of these things happen to men too. This post is biased.

[SovereignessofVamps]

@Jeeevan She's not talking about just the conditions, but how often they happen.

[Jeeevan]

They happen to men too but no, your a woman so you want compensation. I know this won't ever happen but it annoys me how you think you deserve more because you are a female. I would never want more than a female because i believe in EQUALITY which means no one is treated better or worse. You agreeing and supporting this myTake writer is for INEQUALITY.

[SovereignessofVamps]

@Jeeevan She just wants people to acknowledge the issues! Someone needs to say something.

[Jeeevan]

People know that women have periods but it's BIOLOGY which means no one is at fault, it's nature. No one is forcing you to have a period it is natural and there are even ways to stop or reduce periods/side effects. However if you want to acknowledge the other things she listed above then you would have to acknowledge how it affects both genders.

[Anpu23]

Here's another interesting statistic, 99.999% of all men have been assaulted in their lifetime. Yes virtually every man on the planet has been the victim of a violent assault. Vs about 30% of all women.

[myTake Owner]

@Anpu23 source please

[Anpu23]

I was quoting Karen Straghn (honey badgers), who is meticulous with her sources. I would have to research where she got that, but I have no doubt that men are the victims of violent crime more than women. Sources for that would include the FBI crime statistics.

[evenlift]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the essence of feminism. Men are somehow to blame for the facts of nature. And men need to compensate women by being slaves of the most abject kind.

[myTake Owner]

"The birthpangs make all men debtors of all women." - Theodore Roosevelt

[isjusti]

Really? Random person writes a Take full of nonsense and feminism is to blame?

[IndianGirl01]

Seriously, dude? That post is SO NOT about FEMINISM !
@isjusti , some people have such wrong notions of what feminism is.

[isjusti]

@IndianGirl01 what?

[isjusti]

@IndianGirl01 misread sorry lol

[IndianGirl01]

@isjusti lol. I was talking about evenlift, not u.

[isjusti]

@IndianGirl01 i know but i misread the first time lol

[IndianGirl01]

@isjusti lol. no issues. 👍

[loveisbeautiful]

I wrote a take myself, not too long ago and in it I said how it seems and feels like women contemplate the fact that they are a women. Thinking about what's unfair and what they should be entitled to, this take proves my point exactly. Am I one of few women that has more important things to worry about in my life, then my periods all this other so-called injustices and struggles women endure all the time? I mean, honestly making changes in myself and my life, achieve my dreams and accomplishing my goals and making sure I'm not in the same place I am now in my life, when I'm 40. Well, that's more important to me then the things I can't control. This is life, guess what? LIFE SUCKS FOR EVERYONE, for some more than others but it sucks for everyone and everyone has a cross to bare in this life. That's just how it is. So, it's pointless to act like women have more life suffering than men, that's just asinine.

Also, whether this be a joke or a legit take. I just want to say, this is like the 90th take that talks about how horrible periods are and they certain can be a drag but I once had a kidney stone and that was gazillion times more painful then my period. So, I'll take the period any day of the week, over that.

I digress though, what I wanted to say was all the women that complain about your periods, you think that's bad? Wait until you're done with it and menopause hits you. From what I understand that's even more of a drag, then periods. You think you're in hell now, wait until then. At least you'll have new material for a mytake and why women should be compensated for menopause, right?

[jjmarvin]

In you beats the heart of the warrior

[loveisbeautiful]

@jjmarvin Thanks.

[madhatters4]

so we want to compensate based on biology? i've never heard of that being a platform of feminism and it actually doesn't do anything to show equality but rather promotes the idea of inequalities

i'm a feminist but this would be counter-intuitive to any feminist notion of equality

[myTake Owner]

We want men and women to have equal opportunities to feel good about being their gender

[madhatters4]

ok. so where does compensating people for biological disadvantages come into that? and i don't know if you should say "we" as i don't konw if you can say you definitively speak for the entire gender.

feminism is about equality. equality political, economical, and social areas. none of that is biology... and in fact creating different levels of treatment based on biology is the exact opposite of the feminist movement. unless you're ok with anti-feminist using all those biological things you pointed out as reasons why women can't or shouldn't do any number of things

[myTake Owner]

We need equality of happiness.

by the way I never called myself a feminist did I?

[myTake Owner]

Literally nothing in this world is more important than happiness and well-being.
Men and women need to have equal well-being. That is true equality.

[Jeeevan]

We already have equality in the western world. You cannot get equality of happiness for everyone whether you are a man or female. There will always be someone who won't be happy. Do you think men are all happy?

[madhatters4]

so how would cash from the government make it more equal? would it mean women didn't have periods? would it mean women didn't hve a higher rate of migraines?

absolutely not. so there for it wouldn't make anything more equal. equality is a measurable thing. are women paid the same for the same job? do they have the same opportunities?

paying for a biological disadvantage doesn't rid the of the disadvantage. it also doesn't address the disadvantages of biology that may play out for all other people.

[madhatters4]

@Jeeevan we don't have equality in the western world. men don't have the same rights in divorce as women do. women don't get paid the same for performing the same job as men in most cases. black people are more likely to get pulled over without committing an offense. and on and on. we do not have equality in the western world. it's better than it was 100 years, 50 years, 10 years, 5 years ago. but it is still not all fair

[myTake Owner]

Women should get rewarded money for having periods; that way it wouldn't be a disadvantage

[madhatters4]

well while i agree with most feminist platforms regarding equality. i don't see this as being a way to make things equal but rather the opposite. I also don't think the government should blindly start paying people for biological disadvantages

[CrazynKinky]

Are you fucking stupid. Like actually are you fucking stupid. You literally bring back women to the dark ages when you say bullshit like that. Men's bodies are naturally strong with less effort than women. So should they be rewarded for being naturally better at something because that's how their bodies work? Or do you think that because it's harder for women to get to the same physical shape as men we should get paid more for doing the same work? I love what I do. But as much as a lot of the guys I know could carry a bundle of shingles up the ladder right away I had to work on my strength first. Now I can carry two up (unhappily) when I have to but I had to work for that. A period is a pain in the ass sometimes but it's not something we need to be compensated for! It can hurt like a cunt and it can effect basically every part of life but you know what go on birth control when you get the proper one you can either stop them completely or more likely reduce the side effects.

[madhatters4]

@CrazynKinky and i'm done. and based on the vast majority of responses i am not stupid. or fucking stupid.

good luck with life.

[Jeeevan]

If that's the case men should get paid every time they cum. You are so idiotic it's actually unbelievable

[myTake Owner]

@CrazynKinky "Or do you think that because it's harder for women to get to the same physical shape as men we should get paid more for doing the same work?"

Yes that eould be fair

[Jeeevan]

lol can you see what your writing? What your saying isn't equality. You want to create inequality.

[CrazynKinky]

@madhatters4 That wasn't to you. This mytake is moronic.

Dumbass you are going for supremacy not equality if that's what you want at least have the balls to admit it.

[Toad-1]

"Women should get rewarded money for having periods; that way it wouldn't be a disadvantage"

Ok this is the part where i see her as a troll. Nothing more to see here

[madhatters4]

@Toad-1 the unfortunate thing is i think she is serious... or a great troll indeed

[meowcow]

You hit it on the spot. Why compensate women for the biological outcome of evolution.
That's just how men and women developed through natural evolutionary processes.

It's a pretty stupid argument to compensate women for having cramps and periods, as if men or society were the ones to make them have periods. Guess what? Men live shorter lives than women. I'd love to be compensated for that. Now pay up!

[meowcow]

or just stupid

[Anonymous]

im sorry but I couldnt help from laughing throughout this. Lemme go through it with the knowledge of some statistics from studies I do know. Ill go through each question and try to prove it wrong. No this is not hate speech this is criticism.

1. Its actually proven that men feel more pain. Even the feminist YT channel buzzfeed checked it out and took a males and females to a waxing place and while all the guys winced in pain the women either made a slight movement or none at all.
2. If you mean periods there's nothing we can do about it. But there is soemthing girls can. If you take the pill CORRECTLY, you won't even have a period (according to my health teacher who is a GIRL. But it is a health teacher so it might be wrong.)
3. what do you mean? thats either biology or the fault of the women for what they eat.
4. Don't know what that is but it has to do with sensitivity so im guessing thats biology.
5.. HAHAHAHAHHA. how would ANYONE know if one sex felt more stress than the other? plus YES women are more likely to report feelings because every time a guy shows them he is bashed on by is peers and seen as weak so yes of course women report it more.
6. If that were really true why can women orgasm as much as they want while guys have to wait a while til they can again? If you want that number to go up then encourage masterbation.
7. Blame Feminism.
8. Some people are born with it some aren't. oh well. can't do nothing about it. Plus if women with it should be compensated what about the men with it?
9. Yeah no. Women "have it" from stupid stuff. Go to war and then tell me who has it. Go visit a veteran. I am not saying Women don't get it I am just saying its over used
10. Ok? its a mental disorder that can be cured but we have no idea how it starts so there's nothing we can do. Guys have it too not just girls.
11. lol
Ok now its my turn. Go look up or THINK up all the suffering GUYS have to do and then rethink your eval of who has more suffering. If you have any questions, comment on my comment. I am trying to be civil. If you just yell at me for having the wrong opinion like many feminists im going to yell back.

[hellionthesage]

So are we going to compensate men for being 80% of the homeless 75% of suicides, 98% of all workplace accidents and deaths, the sentencing gap (women get a third of the sentencing as men for the same crime) compensated for having no reproductive rights, for having shorter life spans, higher rate of cancer and most every other disease thats life ending,(and lets not forget the 9x greater probability of getting killed by sharks, seems equally ludacris as your statements) compensated for not even being acknowledged as victims of rape despite studies showing women are as likely to rape a man as a man is to rape a woman, being 80% of all violent crimes, the majority of domestic violence victims, compensated for not being acknowledged as the majority of domestic violence victims, compensated for being portrayed as teh victimizer in all things despite statisticly them more likely to be the victim especially when it comes to domestic violence and violence against children, etc etc etc. Their is so much wrong with this, I know your just trolling and trying to provoke people but their are people who actualy think like this thats the sad part.

[BaileyisDarcy]

This so much. So so much this.

My first thought was the women are so much like a lame race horse. But instead of being put down we get treated better than the horses that are doing the actual work.
Not what I actually think but that's the image that came to mind after reading this take.

[Reflexy]

An interesting fact for you is 82% of lightning victims are male.
www.accuweather.com/.../25717095

[hazoplmeught]

this is the truth right here. Women already have all those women only and women and children only services. Men dont have services specifically for them that often. aren't women only things sexist anyways?

[hellionthesage]

@Reflexy Jesus christ even lightning has it out for us, I thought it bad enough that men where on sharks shit list now its Zeus himself? We should could compensated for that too. :D

[hellionthesage]

@BaileyisDarcy The reason is because its kind of true. The problem is if a man where to complain societies response would to laugh in his face and then tell him to shut up and grow a pair. When women complain we (society) immediatley rush to pamper them and tell them will make everything better. Obviously if your going to spoil a child it will grow up to be a pretty crappy person and thats how women like the poster appear, we would never tolerate this from men under any circumstances (hell we don't tolerate them complaining about valid things). Obviously not all women are like this, clearly, but since society lets this kind of thing slide for women its becoming a more common occurence (this is not the first time I have seen these kind of complaints from women). Originally societies response would have been only slightly less apathetic towards women as it is towards men but in our current culture that is not the case resulting in women like the poster.

[hellionthesage]

@BaileyisDarcy Thats actually why its important for other women to call these women out in order to reestabilish a balance so we don't end up with a world filled with spoiled brats (same goes for men, it just seems that we would never let them get away with it to begin with) if only women of the past could see this, they would probably be more then happy to slap some sense into these women.

[hellionthesage]

@hazoplmeught Well thats because of many things, both social and biological (women have more neotenous traits which are basicly "child like"(traits that are held onto from child hood, neural plasticity is one of them (the thing that allows us to keep learning into adult hood)) traits that instill an impulsive urge to protect which is why people both men and women view bad things happening to women as worse then when they happen to men and why women can get away with bad things because they are viewed as less threatening then men for the same reason)

[BaileyisDarcy]

This is stupid. No offense OP but it's not a well thought out idea.

Good intentions. Just not exactly the smartest thing to put out there.

How would this be achieved?
I don't want to be on pills for my whole life just because nature decided I must be fertile, nor do I wish to have my fertility ripped away from me just to save myself a little bit of trouble.

My mum gets migraines. She takes medicine for them.
Mum gets really bad cramping, so she had that cancer removed (doctors couldn't actually figure out what it was but it would have turned cancerous if left any longer)
Mum's a little fucked in the head, but she keeps going becuse she's fine and she said so.

I get bad anxiety, I can burst into tears at the drop of a hat due to the levels of stress my body is going through.
My hips go off at me now and then and keep me from being able to bend over.

But I don't want to be stuffed full of pills to fix it.

Because that's how they'll attempt to fix it.

With pills.

Yeah women deal with stupid shit that we can't change.
But that's just the way it is and you cannot change it, so you have to just live with it and quit complaining.

Otherwise you'll be full of medication by days end.

[LogicBomber]

UMMMM NO.
Women by far get life handed to them already and have endless amounts of support for all the stuff you listed. Women do not need to be compensated any further for being female.
They generally live longer than men, work easier jobs, have more time off, are given support for rape, abuse, homelessness, parental rights, health, school, etc.

You say don't bring up stuff like men get murdered more than women...
Males were more likely to be murder victims 76.8% of the time.
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/.../United_States_Department_of_Justice

Male suicide is at epidemic numbers. www.bcmj.org/articles/silent-epidemic-male-suicide

Males have
- little to NO parental rights.
- little to no support for abuse (which is equal female to male as it is male to female)
- Have no scholarships, grants, programs, etc that are male only while women have hundreds.
- Are generally ignored when raped by a woman, even as children.
- Are 98% of the homeless, mainly because women have shelters while men don't.
- much less funding for male only issues that surpass female only issues that get the majority of funding.
- Have a school system which is biased towards girls and is easier on them generally.
- live in a society in which their side of a story is generally invalid against any female claim.

(*I typically expect to be blocked because I am pointing out facts, I hope you do not stoop to such childishness)

[KRIEL55]

Although i agree that both genders have their own problems and women don't need special treatment (just equality), some of the points you've made are invalid. even though men get murdered more often, the murderers are usually men! same with rape. even when men get raped, the majority of the time it is by other men. the reason why women usually get parental rights is because they are the ones who gave birth. they are the ones carrying the baby in their stomach for 9 months. unless the mother is abusive and/or a drug addict, she deserves to keep her child. and yes rape is a very serious problem, but it is MUCH more common for a woman to be raped. and it isn't taken seriously half the time (if not more then half) either. and i've actually learned in a college psychology class that the way teachers make it easier for girls and harder for guys only benefits guys in the long run. guys learn how to figure things out and actually use their brain, while girls get the answers handed to them

[KRIEL55]

from early ages and then have a harder time later when they have to actually figure things out with no help.

[LogicBomber]

@KRIEL55 Women in the west already get more than equality to men. Western women are the most privilege group of human beings to ever exist.

You are incorrect about more men killing men and more man raping men, it's just that when women do these crimes are usually excused or ignored so therefore it's easy to say only men do it or More men do it.

In regards to parental rights mentor half of the DNA and just because women incubate the creation doesn't mean that in regards to parental rights mentor half of the DNA and just because women incubate the creation doesn't mean that they should have 100% ownership.

Men are raped by women almost as equally as women are raped by men, and both are not as common as it is made out to be. But once again male rape by females is ignored or excused. Female rape is taken very seriously.

The excuse about males in scholl is completely wrong if it were true males would not be dropping out at an alarming rate.

[Anonymous]

"I blame men for everything and think I am entitled to everything they work hard to produce, and now they want nothing to do with me! They must be misogynists!"

Maybe men should be compensated to, for the endless fucking bitching we endure. Henpcked, harassed husbands desperate to sneak away from their miserable, overbearing wives who they work long and hard to provide for and are met with thankless complaining, have been a constant butt of jokes for as long as civilization has existed.

By the way? Fuck you.
When you think the number or women who experience X thing is more than men, so that matters, but the fact that men are murdered at X rate more than women doesn't count, your double standard, hypocrisy, and misandry shine through brightly. I could probably discredit most of what you say, but there is no point arguing with a cunt who believes her own bullshit more than she'd ever believe actual facts.

No man owes you a fucking thing unless he is married to you. And considering how miserable you are, thankfully, that is unlikely to happen.

When men have problems, they work to fix them. When feminists have problems, they demand men fix them. YOUR demand that we fix your shit does more to create inequality than anything some devil man does. Encourage girls to have the power to fix their own shit, and you have equality. But you'll never do that, because that means hard work, effort, and responsibility for your own actions of failures. It is so much easier to demand men do for you, while bitching you have no agency, and being too think to realize your own convoluted levels of double think.

[myTake Owner]

"The birthpangs make all men debtors of all women."

by the way consistent research shows that men benefit much more psychologically, physically, and emotionally from marriage than men do

[Opinion Owner]

do you know why men benefit from marriage so much?
Do you have the faintest fucking clue?
MEN BENEFIT FROM MARRIAGE BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A COMMITMENT WITH A WOMAN.
Men feel useless without someone to provide for and care for. A man is happy to sit on a dirty ass couch, wear the same clothing every day, play too many video games, live off of cheap ass microwave meals, and work the minimal hours he has to to pay for that. Men, in general, accomplish almost nothing for their own sake.

Give a man responsibility? Give him people to care for, and provide for? That gives him PURPOSE. They give him a reason to live, and they give him a reason to want to make a situation better. The more comfortable they are, the more he feels like HE HAS WORTH.
Even emotionally. Men keep their emotions buried, so having people to love and dote on, openly, is catharsis!

EVEN THE MARRIAGE THAT MEN BENEFIT FROM IS DONE FOR THE BENEFIT OF WOMEN!
Jesus Christ, you are blind!

[vonasaurus]

i like this take for one reason only:

i suffer every month with horrible cramps and tylenol with codeine is the only thing that makes the pain stop. i lose so much blood that i am now anemic and can easily go through half a pack of girl corks in a day.

-birth control and pads/tampons are two expenses that men don't have. therefore, i'd love it if those were tax-deductible, or tax-free.

-"period days" (in addition to sick days); when i'm in so much pain that i can't move and i'm practically crying because it feels like i'm being stabbed in the gut with a rusty pitchfork , the last thing i want to do is be anywhere near people.

not asking for free shit, or a war on men... i just something to compensate for the shit-show i endure every month because i don't want kids.

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[Tanuron]

wow... the irony though. Am I supposed to say the same about women, like with migraine "Thats only relevant to 1% of women, 99% of women dont get migraine". As an excuse to completely disregard something that involves men, cause overall men get subjected to more violents assaults too. And suffering aren't determined by gender, but the individuals situation. I have migraine myself, my sister and mother and most females I know have never or maybe once or twice (possibily had it). While I have it quite frequently. I also experienced a shit ton of sadness and struggled with deperession since I was 10, but I dont deserve any help then basically cause Im a guy. And you somehow think that is fair?

We even have a long way to go before men get equal quantity of advantages to women in the modern society, tipping the scale further to favor women simply cause they are women.. Man, just nuts in my opinion. If people are supposed to be compensated for their suffering, it sure as hell should be decided on the individual, not their stupid gender.

[Anonymous]

Enough!
We have to be the fucking hot guy stereotype, go to the gym, have an exciting life whatever the hell that means, a good carreer is a totally needed optional, a new car since an old one is terrible and generate comments amongst your friends, we have to give them multiple orgasms in bed, make their friends lust about us, and having insecurities or personal dramas is not really tolerated. That is the ideal guy. Otherwise the security of the "nest" will be always in jeopardy, waiting for another better prospect to "steal" them away for being closer to this ideal. Some girls actually have the fantasy of being stolen by another guy which is disgusting. The bias towards guys is that the have the animal function of reproduction and therefore more prone to sexual activity than women. This is the major excuse for easily rejecting a guy, acting like a player and they are still victims. And at the end of the day we still have to be 100% confidend about ourselves because insecurity looks bad and still listen to that crap "it's so hard to be a woman" and "guys dont have period like us".
I used to hate on those stereotypical hot, popular, player etc guys i met but now i see they are exactly what women lust after, not the "good guy", "shoulder to cry buddy". If men of nowadays are pigs or not the "gentleman from the old days" it's because thats what women are into nowadays, men adapted to it because we are men. If the stress of being a woman bothers you, welcome to the transgender era but let me put it to you in this way: Both genders have their insecurites as described above, both suffer pressure from society regardless feminism's assumptions that men are cold pigs, both genders suffer, have pain and despite we are 7 billion, we are still alone when we struggle. Not to mention women are allowed to show their weaknesses. Men are not.
So, all in all, being alive brings joys and problems. Regardless of gender.
Deal with it.

[bobbyxx]

Well said, brilliant reply.

[bcromartie]

"Experience much more stress than men, and are much more likely than men to report physical and emotional symptoms of stress."

I read your source. The problem is this:

"Experience much more stress than men." is not backed up, but "are much more likely than men to report physical and emotional symptoms of stress." this is. It even says in your source:

"Though they report similar average stress levels, women are more likely than men to report that their stress levels are on the rise. They are also much more likely than men to report physical and emotional symptoms of stress. When comparing women with each other, there also appears to be differences in the ways that married and single women experience stress."

Specifically [Though they report similar average stress levels, women are more likely than men to report that their stress levels are on the rise.] which tells me that at least according to this source when reporting similar stress levels female stress has been markedly lower, not higher, since "rising" to average is (ironically) a sign of equality.

I don't have time to go through all of it but it is a good topic. I wish it had been taken more seriously.

[Anonymous]

No. This is the response you're going to get. Just like every other person who purposes that their suffering be compensated. The world just doesn't work like that and never will. This is earth.
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This is the small slice of paradise we struggle to keep afloat
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But this is often the result
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You're suffering is minuscule compared to others and equality is not only unlikely but most likely impossible. How would you even go about deciding something like this. People are trying. That is all that we can do but there's only so much a country even can do. At some point you have to accept that life inevitably comes with some degree of suffering and unfairness. Think about that next time you eat meat or swat a fly.

[MaskedSanity]

"People should pay me money because I exist."

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[myTake Owner]

#GiveYourMoneyToWomen

[MaskedSanity]

#ObviousTrollisObvious

[madhatters4]

precisely... are we actually suggesting anyone born with a biological disadvantage should be paid by the government? I was born African American. government give me money for simple fact that the amount of pigment in my skin is a certain level

[Anonymous]

I'd have thought most people in the US now wouldn't qualify due to fitness or upper body strength and even Less women would qualify, or qualify to do any actual fighting at least and the ones that did qualify are probably a lot tougher and less affected by a lot of those issues. less sensitive to pain, able to hold there own against more men than not.
We have disadvantages as well as advantages id say dying sooner is a very big one and to me it seems you have ever better long or mid term memories or more focus or something judging by the higher numbers of you going to and graduating college in the west.
Not the case in tec or engineering for some reason but similar numbers in maths and higher in accountancy and law.
Able to gain knowledge ever faster or with more focused than us and with a longer life to use it in.
The disadvantage of usually being weaker is a big one for feeling secure as is the laws in less politically or culturally advanced countries. If you're the traveler type but it's far from all disadvantages and many countries are becoming safer and more tolerant as there people and politics start to modernise.

[LittleFinch]

This is probably one of the most bullshit myTakes I have ever read.

Women want equality? Then we NEED to be included in the draft, no ifs, ands, or buts. It's not equal if men can join the military and need to sign up for the draft, but women don't have to sign up. That is unequal. And women should NOT be compensated simply because of biological things outside of anyone's control! This is absolutely ridiculous. It's people like this author who give logical, sensible women a bad name.

[myTake Owner]

Treating women & men exactly the same is *inequality* because inevitably women will be the ones who have it worse (for the reasons I discussed in the OP).

You're advocating that men and women have unequal happiness. You're advocating inequality.

[LittleFinch]

Please enlighten me on how I am advocating inequality. Equality means treating everyone the same (which, when it comes to everything, cannot occur due to natural and biological issues, but that's another factor I'm not getting into now). If men and women being treated equal means inequality, then-so what? It's still not equality, because at some point women will be treated better because they're women. That is unequal, therefore YOU are advocating inequality. Hardly any of this makes actual sense, and is entirely ludicrous. Women should not be compensated because they have a vagina.

[Jeeevan]

Ffs this my take writer has to be the biggest idiot i will ever meet in my life. All the reasons you put into your bullshit my take do not affect all women. The only thing that affects all the women are periods which are out of no ones control like @LittleFinch said.

[Jeeevan]

out of everyone's control*

[LittleFinch]

@Jeeevan Amen.

[Jeeevan]

lol I can't tell if she is delusional, stupid or a troll. Most likely a mix of all three.

[LittleFinch]

@Jeeevan I cannot with this article. There is no logic or sense, nor any facts behind it. It makes no sense whatsoever.

[myTake Owner]

Treating women and men the same is NOT equality because women and men are different.

[Jeeevan]

I know right lol.

[Jeeevan]

Treating women and men the same IS equality. Are you actually stupid?

[Azara]

There is NO DRFT. open up a history book before making your assertions

[LittleFinch]

@Azara there still IS a draft that men have to sign up for. It's no longer used, but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Don't try to lecture the person who's currently learning U. S. II about history.

[myTake Owner]

@Jeeevan so giving 1 apples to both a starving person and a satiated person, instead of 2 apples to the starving person, is equality right?

[Jeeevan]

You make no sense. That is out of context. Are you starving? No? Shut up. Life is unfair for both genders in different ways.

[myTake Owner]

@Jeeevan "Treating women and men the same IS equality."
You support "equality for all", right, which entails treating everyone exactly the same?
So the kid with the broken leg should be forced to run the mile during gym class in order to get a passing grade, just like everybody else, because everyone needs to be treated exactly the same, because "equality for all"?

[LittleFinch]

Listen, what you're proposing isn't equality. Taking the dumb example you provided: a kid with a broken leg, in ANY scenario, would not have to run the mile. He is therefore not equal to his classmates because he gets extra time in which to prepare for the mile, so that his leg may heal. If you want things to truly be equal, then NO ONE in the class would run the mile until the kid's leg healed, so that everyone could have a fair shot at the run. Providing ANY sort of compensation does NOT equate to equality. Women and men both have to deal with problems in their lifetimes. It does not mean women should be compensated in any way for the suffering they go through. Men, then, should also be compensated for their suffering. Also, your argument is invalid. Equality literally means EVERYONE IS TREATED EQUALLY. We cannot control the natural order. How would you even propose that we "compensate" women for how they are naturally oppressed, then?

[Jeeevan]

@LittleFlinch, thank you the myTake writer is the definition of stupid.

[myTake Owner]

"He is therefore not equal to his classmates"

Yeah. Which brings me to my point: Equality doesn't exist.

[Jeeevan]

I'm losing precious brain cells talking to you. What you want isn't equality either. You're asking for special treatment. That's like me asking for men to be given special treatment for living shorter than women. Your logic makes no sense. What @LittleFlinch said is true. Everyone is treated equally and you wanting special treatment is in fact INEQUALITY. You cannot blame other people for biology. Again, with this logic maybe men should be compensated for being naturally hairier than a woman or more likely to go bald.

[myTake Owner]

@Jeeevan so does the kid with the broken leg have to run the mile in order to get a passing grade in gym class, for the sake of "equality"?

[Jeeevan]

No, the kid simply runs the mile when he is better?

[myTake Owner]

@Jeeevan what if the school years over by then?

[Jeeevan]

Then he can go into school within the holidays and do a catch-up exam.

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

Although women suffer, men do too. Then EVERYONE will be compensated for their suffering, right?
I'm a feminist and I believe in equal rights for men and women, even if it doesn't benefit the women etc. So yes, draft women.
We're people. We're gonna suffer.

[BubbleBoy69]

"I'm a feminist "

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[SweetHomicidalQueen]

@BubbleBoy69 Something wrong hun?

[myTake Owner]

This will widen the suffering gap tho

[navychick2006]

This doesn't any sense. What you're basically saying is that women should be compensated by society for basic biology? Nonsense. While I agree with you about rape, that's why women should be taught basic self defense skills. If you know how to protect yourself, you stand a better chance of fighting off a potential rape and ultimately the unwanted pregnancy. Oh, and I'm a military woman and I think women should be included in the draft. Military service might be good for some of these spoiled little princesses in my opinion.

[zacmcain]

Thank you for your service
They got rid of the draft over 40 years ago, but men 18 to mid 20's still have to sign up by law.

[Azara]

There will no draft. They had to wipe. it out because the soldiers were rebelling against the draft and killing their leaders. Peopl. already read cited the draft we don't have one.

Teaching women self defeanse is important but not the nearly enough. It does not prevent two and you're putting all the blame on the person who's getting raped. Approach to rape in general is beyond absurd. And obviously not solving the problem.

[navychick2006]

@Azara okay but how was I putting blame on the victim? I wasn't, and I said that self defense helps women stand a better chance of fighting off a rape. I didn't say it guarantees not being raped. Yes, I realize there's no draft. I'm saying if there was one, women should be included. If the draft were reinstated and the guys were required to enlist, we should be too. Otherwise it's not equality, it's special treatment.

[myTake Owner]

By that logic men should be kicked in the balls once a month

[zacmcain]

And why should we be kicked in the balls?

[myTake Owner]

@zacmcain So that you experience monthly pain equally as women. Equality

[Jeeevan]

Lol I'm guessing the mytake writer is delusional.

[zacmcain]

Wow.
So I'm being judged because I got balls.
I don't know any guy who will let someone do that.

[zacmcain]

@Jeeevan probably is.

[myTake Owner]

Also, a woman drafted into combat is in much more danger than a man would be. If she gets captured and stripped of her weapons, she's in much more danger, especially if captured by a man, because men are much stronger than women. Plus she may be raped & sold as a sex slave & forced to endure pregnancies and birth. A man wouldn't have to deal with that.

It's a completely unequal situation.

[Jeeevan]

women in combat aren't raped that's the most ridiculous thing you've said to date. I know women aren't as strong as men but if men are on the draft then women have to join too. Unless no one has to sign the draft.

[myTake Owner]

@Jeeevan what if they get captured from the enemy? If she gets captured and stripped of her weapons, she's in much more danger, especially if captured by a man, because men are much stronger than women. Plus she may be raped & sold as a sex slave & forced to endure pregnancies and birth. A man wouldn't have to deal with that.

[Jeeevan]

The chance of that happening is near 0. I'm pretty sure rapists do not join the army to rape. I think that the draft should be there because if it is abolished then the military would be weakened if anything was to happen. Women will have to join if men have to continue to join. Plus it's not just about the frontlines or whatever you think it is about. There is so many other jobs which women could do too.

[myTake Owner]

@Jeeevan no I'm talking about if they're captured by the enemy

[Jeeevan]

Ffs they won't get captured unless someone is killing them.

[Tdieseler]

You know... I totally agree...
Girl, you better contact Mother Nature and tell her to start signing those checks lol. I would love not to shell out for jack for all that.
i totally agree with you. Mother Nature dealt you a bad hand, but it seems like men keep paying for it. Its time that changed
LoL @hazoplmeught it ain't that bad :)
@evenlift I think those are extremist feminists...
@bluenose1872 thats one way to see it... nice one
@cth96190 and this would surprise you how?

You know, i once asked who has it worse, women or men, and everyone voted women, but a few smart ones said men. and when the women asked me what i meant by men have it worse when we don't have any problems... I simply said "because we have to deal with y'all women and all your problems"...
we are made problem free, but gotta deal with you. This writer just proves me right. I'd like to see an article on Male Biological problems... we have what? like 3? and only happens at 50 and above?

[hazoplmeught]

Traditionally men already pay for dates, do most physical work (fixing things), murdered (kinda related to illegal physical work to provide) and are most of homeless.

Women
So many female programs to provide for them only (for example women and children only centers)
they usually get lighter load at work
have men who will do a lot of things for them

[Tdieseler]

@hazoplmeught Yet apparently, we still gotta do more, and pay more lol... i think someone here asked a question about what men are even useful for these days... and i believe i said "heavy lifting" we are just work mules and danger shields... all for the superior female gender lol... omg.. my sides hurt.

[hazoplmeught]

pay more? 70-90 percent (ive seen different percentages) of homeless are men and pay more? nah

[Tdieseler]

@hazoplmeught its been a woman's world for a while now...

[hazoplmeught]

you basically just agreed with me and disagreed witht he mytake owner

[Tdieseler]

@hazoplmeught My first opinion was sarcastic. I don't agree with squat that the Take owner said.

[KittieCat]

So someone should give me stuff because I was built a certain way? Yes women have disadvantages when it comes to periods, but you want someone to pay for me because I was built a certain way? I have really bad periods, should I be paid more? I'm not even sure if I can have children, should I be paid less?

Why don't we just live with any minor disadvantage we were born with and just deal with. For fucks sake women can produce another human, like a little mini them walking around. I swear if the joy of children doesn't make up for that (assuming you want kids), then I'm not sure what will.

[myTake Owner]

Studies show that men benefit more from having children than women do

[Jeeevan]

Is this myTake writer high or something? Women and men both benefit from children.

[cheapshotbob]

i have read draft dodging material like this from when vieatnam was going on , both men and women made good points about it. but none of them really gave thought the future of those who gave there lives. and when it was time for our guys came home people of your belief did nothing but call the men/women baby killers spit in there face and gave them no respect what so ever,

anf this is wear this is leading if you actually support views like this , and the only real difference between this and what was happening during the last era of war while this isn't a war time i know is that there are less musical artists and more people expressing there feelings on how they have a right to dodge the draft out of being afraid to die.

[myTake Owner]

"i have read draft dodging material like this from when vieatnam was going on"
Really? Saying that women have it worse than men and thus shouldn't be drafted?

[cheapshotbob]

yes and because of the nagging they made a volunteer force after Vietnam to gt rid of th draft , and now there thinking of using the draft again and the same old issues come up again about women's rights, why not just run to Canada or Mexico instead of make hate speeches on people who want to fight for this country and die doing so?

people who refused to go into the army were more violent than those who were in another country fighting , there were a few collage campuses where people were hurt during a "Peace rally " because they forced the riot officers to be used.

you might not be sure how this relates to what your talking about but its the same
like this image during the Vietnam era media.gettyimages.com/.../protesters-at-an-antivietnam-war-rally-hold-signs-bearing-antiwar-and-picture-id526760822