The reasons behind why I will never stand beside feminists and their movement

[Anonymous]

Feminism; one of the biggest argued topics today. I have seen and heard many good view points from both sides of the debate. However, I will never stand with a feminist or any of their movements. Before you judge me, listen to my personal experiences that have turned me against such a movement. I have a 4 year old son. I had him when I was 17 years old and during the beginning of my pregnancy (before I found out my sons gender) I had many feminists support me. The only reason this happened was because my sons father wanted nothing to do with my child. I had many women say that I was an inspiration. I was doing it on my own and "didn't need a man". At the time, I welcomed the support because I truly didn't have anyone else. However, when I found out that I was having a boy these feminists starting making comments about how I needed to raise my son. I needed to "put him in his spot" and "make sure he knows his role". I also got comments about how I needed to make sure my male child didn't turn out to be a rapist or woman beater. It was at this point that I completely cut these ignorant people out of my life. After all, who the hell are you to label my child before he is even born?! OR tell me how to raise MY son?!

I ended up meeting my boyfriend when my son was 2 months old and surpringly enough, this amazing man wanted to adopt my boy. He attached himself to my son and sometimes, I even thought he liked my child more than he liked me! He showed an abundance of affection toward my son and treated him as if my son was his as well. So, we got the adoption papers finalized. I was then approached by a group of feminists sitting outside the town hall and was told that I made the biggest mistake of my life by first deciding to keep my son (whom WILL turn out to be a rapist) and second deciding to allow "this man" adopt my child. After all, I should have raised him myself instead of allowing "this man" to have an influence on my son while he is growing up. They got in my face while I was holding my son. My son was crying and I had all I had in me not to pass my son over to my boyfriend and lay these ignorant fucks out. Who in their right minds think it is okay for them to get up in a complete strangers face while she is holding her 10 month old child in her arms?!

My boyfriend purposed to me and I shortly after found out I was pregnant with another child. My fiancé and I were beyond excited for our new addition to our already perfect family. I was looked down upon because I was a 19 year old girl who was now working on my second child with "this man" and I often found myself caught up in the middle of this drama stricken feminist movement because they thought I was ignorant for settling and allowing myself to get "knocked up" by him. I had to switch my doctors 3 times because these doctors often told me to get an abortion because it was the best solution to "fix my problem" and that I shouldn't be "allowing this man to walk all over me". My (now) husband was bashed on so much more than ANY person should ever have to go through. But when we found out I was having a baby girl, these people started saying things like "Imagine how much better your life would be if you had aborted your son and just had your precious baby girl." Fuck you. And your man hating bullshit. Honestly.

Here it is, 3 years since I had my daughter and my husband and I are expecting our third child. We own our own business, our own home, two vehicles, both have masters in our courses and our children are the most brilliant, respectful and silly babies. My life would be nothing without my husband and babies. Here's where another problem lies for my bad taste against such feminists movements... My husband, my babies and I were travelling for our vacation and upon our road trip and site seeing we came across a very large group of women whom called themselves feminists. Their shirts and bras off and not wearing anything aside from skimpy thongs and heels. My son kept asking me "Why are they naked mummy? Shouldn't they hide their private parts?", to which my daughter stated "That's dangerous and yucky." My kids are 4 and almost 3! And even they know that what they were seeing was not right in any way, shape or form. We quickly tried to get our children away from this group of women but not before 2 of them came running over to tell my daughter how beautiful she was and how she should join them when she is older. I told these women to back off three times before an officer stepped in and tried removing these women. And then one of these women turned around and looked directly at my son and started cussing and yelling, all while trying to get in my four year olds face. Why? Because he was looking at them and he was a "fucking pervert". They then tried telling the officer the wanted to press charges ON MY FOUR YEAR OLD KID! You are naked. You are showing off your tits and waving them around for the entire world to look at and you expect a child not to look at you and wonder what the hell is wrong with you?! Needless to say the officer apologized to us for this woman's ignorant outburst and told us which parts of the city to steer clear of because there were more naked women rallying the streets.

My son and daughter were both in a school that has a daycare center and preschool in one. They didn't have classes together because of their age gape, obviously. But I have recently pulled them from this school and enrolled them in another because of what they both endured while being in that place. One specific day my son came back home crying. He wouldn't tell me what had happened so I contacted his teacher and tried to get some info about why my normally happy go lucky son was now distraught and quiet. They couldn't give me any information. About a week later my daughter came home with green marker covering her armpits. She said her teacher had all the girls do it. When I asked her why, she said "Well my teacher said that since I am a girl I have to stick with the other girls and stand up for my rights as a girl." I was pissed and immediately drove to the school to confront them. To which they said "there is nothing wrong with teaching a young girl to stand up for herself when it comes to the male population." I immediately knew why my son had become so distant and I withdrew them from the school as soon as I ended the conversation with this disgusting woman. Bullying my son because he is a boy? Drawing on MY daughter so you can support your movement? I don't think so! I have never been so disgusted and honestly afraid of raising my children up in such a society.

You want people to support your movement? You want people to think you are doing a "great thing"? How am I or any other mother/father supposed to support people who do this to and in front of young children?! If you want people to support you, stop making out like you are more superior than men. Stop making out like you are better than everyone. Stop trying to push your beliefs on young girls whom are not yours. Stop bullying young boys and automatically assuming that they will grow up to be rapists, cheaters, woman beaters, punks, theifs, alcoholics and killers. Cover yourself up. Put your breasts back in your shirts and have some damn dignity. That is not feminism! Freeing the nip, being a man hater, and painting your arm put hair have never and will never be an act of feminism! But sadly enough, this is what feminism has been made into. This is what it now consists of. I have yet to meet a real feminist that actually believes in the REAL feminist movement. And I honestly cannot guarantee that if another disgusting femi-nazi man hater approaches my son, daughter or husband again that I will not end up with assault charges. This is the reason why I will never stand up with you feminists. Maybe if you actually supported the movement rather than your "superiorness" against men you would have less people bashing you. I'm a men's rights activist. Men have it worse than women. I've seen it first hand.

[Thor696]

Ever watch Star Trek? The whole feminist movement these days is analogous to the BORG CUBE.

Feminists assume that what is good for one woman - is good for all. In what fucking universe does that hold true? Women are not "magically" networked to each other through their vaginas. It's just hilarious.

The fact is... what is good for one woman - may not be good for another.

These Borg Feminists won't even allow you to hold your own opinions - it's like a religion to them - and any deviation from the "Feminist Bible" is HERESY. I've seen Feminists jack up another woman for wearing lipstick or eye shadow - or even high heels.

And, if you have a BOY - you're supposed to essentially castrate him from the moment he's born. Teach him that HE is the oppressor. Oh yeah, that's going to raise a very well balanced individual, now isn't it?

Hey it's like this... the only people any woman is "networked" to are members of her own family - or those she chooses for herself to "network" to.

Feminists can fuck off - because... yeah I'm an Alpha Male and ain't changing. Now whatcha goin' do? Put me in a concentration camp with that army of self-emasculated beta males you've built?

Make my day bitches! LOL... that will be a funny sight indeed.

The key is to raise well-balanced MASCULINE men who feel a duty to protect women. Men like that won't rape. Men like that will open doors for women and respect them.

That's the kind of guy I am. Rape repulses me... I physically couldn't do it. The sight of a woman in extremis puts my psyche in "Battle Stations" mode - I want to help her. No way I could harm a woman.

But if you raise a boy to believe he's naturally an oppressor - he will come to resent women and that's the kind of guy that turns into a Bundy-style serial killer of women.

You, my dear - have a very mature and balanced opinion based on the science of evolution. Men and women are different - equal, but different. Strengths and weaknesses that each, at the end of the day balance out.

Failure to grasp the differences is just ignorant.

[RationalLioness]

1) Alpha Males dont claim that theyre alphas. Betas do. I have seen plenty of Alpha Males and you are not closem

2) You are irrationally generalizing. Not all Feminists are the same. There is bad in every ideology.

[Thor696]

@RationalLioness You haven't seen me... LOL... I should send you my twitter account.

[Anonymous]

Look at the dictionary definition of feminism!
Not all feminists are the same!
Well those are not REAL feminists!
You're lying.

There, I just covered all the retarded feminist comments for you.

[myTake Owner]

I'm lying? Lmfao. Please. So since you are a die hard radical feminist you feel the need to stick up for the ignorant feminist bitches who do these things to children and adults of all genders and ages world wide? How about you take your head out of your asshole for five seconds and take a good look at what is going on around you. Instead of being the pathetic feminist who thinks that every feminist (no matter what form they come in) can do no wrong, how about you stand up for the feminists who are doing right and PROVE it. Because honestly, right now with your "you're lying" comment, you just put yourself into the same category as these pathetic feminists/feminazi botched I am speaking of within this post.

[Opinion Owner]

Take Owner I am an anti-feminist. I hate feminism, don't support anything it ever had to give, because what it claims to have given it didn't give.

You didn't read my comment carefully enough.

[myTake Owner]

Sorry for my outburst. I truly thought you were calling me a liar. Again, I apologize.

[Opinion Owner]

When we're on that, I do kind of think you're a liar.
I know there are plenty of radical feminists out there who think act like this, but not THAT many. I have trouble believing you actually experienced all this real time, in real life, like you say you did. :/

[Opinion Owner]

Most feminists are parrots who will repeat what I wrote in my comment.

[Anonymous]

Here's my problem with this entire post. This whole story seems like a thinly veiled morality play in which a young "fallen woman" eschews the immoral, radical feminist lifestyle and finds true happiness by marrying her heroic, morally-upright boyfriend who adopts her son as his own. The so-called "feminists" are undoubtedly cast as the hysterical—and I use that term purposefully—villains while the unwed teen mother who has seen the error of her previously sinful ways is now an outcast of her former social group.

The author uses anecdotal evidence to support claims that feminism is bad while providing no clear definition of feminism or a cohesive thesis of the author's own which would be supported by searchable, provable facts. Within this tale, the reader will find the OP poisoning the well: by describing the morally and socially unacceptable actions of feminists, the reader must side against feminism and with the OP. Unfortunately, I find the characters in the tale flat and one dimensional and the plot repetitive and unsurprising.

Perhaps what OP says is true. I can't say, but if it is, I'm sorry that this is your experience with feminism. You won't see most feminists exposing themselves to the public because we are quietly living our own lives without asking/being told how we're supposed to do it. I've remarked to one of my friends recently that one of the great things about the expansion of gender roles is that I can make my own sandwich, sew missing buttons back on my own clothes, fill up my own antifreeze, and pay my own bills without being completely lost if I don't have a legally bound partner to take care of some of these responsibilities for me.

Feminism is about securing equal rights for a group of people—women—who have historically lacked the same social and political influence as their male counterparts. While many institutions have embraced equal rights for both men and women, there remains issues with unequal treatment by police and federal agents—remember though they are "individuals," they lose some of their autonomy when they become representatives of the state—, rape culture both on college campuses and quietly within families, the negative career consequences on women who take a few months off every couple of years to have children or raise a family—which is a traditional gender role that non-feminists might support, etc.

I end this post with my final comment: male or female, there is no such thing as partial equality.

[RationalLioness]

Well said.

[Glue-Sniffer]

Well written critique.

[myTake Owner]

Here's the thing; I have never once been faced with a real feminist (from what I am told). The feminists I have been faced with are the sweetest, most down to earth women until you say or do one thing that they don't agree with. Once this has happened they start bashing you and making out like you are against womens rights. This is not true at all. I believe in women's rights, but I do not believe that I should have to follow every single one of their ways or beliefs of how a "perfect" woman should be. I like lavishing my husband with gifts and smothering him with affection. I like cooking for him every night, doing his laundry and rubbing his back. I don't expect anything in return. This has led to many of these women I've encountered to bash my ways of living; stating that I am not his mommy and he must be "forcing me" to do such things. Feminism gave women the right to make choices, yet when I make a choice that goes against them these specific women loose their noodle.

[myTake Owner]

And yes, these encounters that I listed above are scenarios that I have dealt with first hand. However, I also live in a small community where everybody knows everybody and that could be the main problem. Perhaps if I moved then I would be faced with real feminism instead of these radical women whom claim to be feminists. For the reasons that I listed above alone are enough to make me steer clear of any sort of feminist involvement. Yes, perhaps these women have turned me off of the idea even though they are not true feminists, but rather a man-hating woman using feminism as a mask to lash out her own hatred. However, until faced with such situations first hand, you will never truly understand my thought process. I have been scared for my sons life on more than one occasion and that is something a mother fears the most.

[Elena_the_Star]

That is the reason the word 'feminazi' was created, difference between feminazi and feminism. I see so many women against feminism when all feminists don't always see eye to eye, and while there are extreme feminists who are man hating because of their experiences or they have been raised believing that. I want to ask all the girls and women who are against feminism out there, what have you done for your sex's rights? There are plenty of issues in first world countries, reproductive rights, objectification, societal pressure to look perfect and beautiful, domestic violence abuse ( 60% victims are women), slut shaming etc. Don't even get me started about the endless issues in the third world countries. I am not advocating hate on men in any way, but is asking these issues to be addressed too much? Before MRAs over here pounce on me with ," Men got issues too!", yes they have but are you supporting my rights? In my life, I have seen plenty of female MRAs but very few male feminists. If you aren't supporting my cause, you are not getting my support either. Do all those female MRAs so concerned about men's rights, even think of these issues of their own gender? How about doing something for your own gender first and then about the opposite sex?
Why I call myself a feminist and not humanists or something? When the entire human race is called mankind, you can't blame feminism for being called so. Moreover, I am geared towards women's rights more because I think they have more serious issues in third world countries, being from one myself.
I am sick of my gender being so divided, how do you supposed to overcome women's rights if you don't unite? Women are slut shaming each other and then asking for men to respect them. To quote Tina Fey in Mean Girls," You all have got to stop calling each other sluts and whores, it just makes it okay for guys to call you sluts and whores"
Even if you don't agree with everything in feminism, do something for your gender!,

[myTake Owner]

Do something for my gender? After everything I have said in this mytake you expect me to want to? Honestly? Yes, I agree that some equality needs to take place. But when there are so maanh women out there who bash men's existence (including my 4 year old son) then no, they deserve no respect. I have no idea how women from this view point (the women I have spoken above in this mytake) expect anyone to follow them.

[Elena_the_Star]

Do I expect you to do something for your own gender after being harassed by feminazis? As I said, difference between feminazis and feminists. You are a woman too, doesn't mean you are like them, are you? No human can be the same. You can be your own type of feminist or do some social work without associating with that tag but seriously they are doing good work for their gender, at least some of them are. While I don't see other people doing that.
Same way you can't say ," All men are same!" after being used by a playboy you can't say all feminists are crazy man hating weirdos.

[myTake Owner]

You feminists gave me the right to make my own choices. So I chose to be a Men's Rights Activist. Any woman who claims to be a feminist that sits there and bash's my choices after YOU GAVE ME THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE is not a real feminist. Plain and simple.

[Elena_the_Star]

But you don't agree to the very concept of feminism so you can't really exercise that right :)

[myTake Owner]

I can exercise any right that I want to and a 16 year old girl has no say over that. Sorry. You have no idea what it is like to be out in the real world, on your own and facing everyday challenges like this. When you come from a town that has more man hating "feminists" (the people who claim to be feminists that is) than real feminists and you are constantly faced with these ignorant women taking it upon themselves to bully my four year old son and try getting my two year old daughter to be apart of the movement, you tend to start hating women as a whole. No matter who you are. But until you are faced with such ignorance you will never understand.

[Elena_the_Star]

If you say that feminists have given you that right, then you shouldn't exercise that right since you don't agree to feminism. I think you will never understand the difference between feminazis and feminists no matter how many times I say it. You yourself distinguish between real feminists and these feminists so you need to understand that there are good feminists out there and you don't need to hate feminism as a whole. I have seen 60 year old women who have more life experience then you have agreeing to feminism. Actually, I have seen many women of all age groups agreeing to it so don't bring age into this. Age is just an arbirtary number
You should stop being bitter and go out of your town and meet real feminists. You can't make your judgements based on a small, stupid number of feminazis.

[TMasterFlex]

This is what feminism is..."if you stand against us then you can go ahead and get back in the kitchen". This is disgusting.

[Elena_the_Star]

@TMasterFlex I never said that. Don't misinterpret my words. However I do have a problem with female MRAs who refuse to do any work for their own gender and are so happy to help men. Why not just change your sex or be a man? -.-

[TMasterFlex]

But they do. Equality would be easily achieved if we work together. Take the MRA's and feminism and do away with them both. Equality will always happen eventually when both sides speak it out and work together. I believe in equality but will never associate myself with feminist or MRA's due to the frequent banter and hatred between both.

[Elena_the_Star]

@TMasterFlex I am from India and I think it needs feminism since female problems are way way more than guys problems. There are serious issues like female infanticide, foeticide, skewed sex ratio, dowry deaths, domestic violence, acid attacks, and I think I don't need to mention the rapes. So I am more biased towards women's rights. So, yeah I am a feminist.

[TMasterFlex]

And i truly respect that. I do fully agree that India does need feminism. I apologize if i come of as a jerk to you. I just think that the America doesn't need it. To be honest if i were in India I would be a feminist. I do hope that India does have a change to help women.

[Elena_the_Star]

@TMasterFlex I think america needs it too but not that much definitely. There is the issue of slut shaming, women's reproductive rights, domestic violence, objectification etc. but its more of social equality issue.

[TMasterFlex]

I honestly have never seem somebody slut shamed but that probably does happen even though I heardbthat women slut shame other wome way more than men do. Women do have reproductive rights because abortion is not illegal and it won't be anytime soon. Domestic violence here is nearly 50/50. There have been no real cases that led to proven objectification to women. Just stories that do actually get taken quite seriously here. My point here was that these issues aren't a feminist battle. It is a human vs government battle. Men aren't the enemies here, especially since this country actually does bend the knee to women here. Women are supposed to be empowered here, but they find little things to complain about. For example.. men are getting arrested and find for manspreading in New York.

[Elena_the_Star]

@TMasterFlex Both slut shame women, though yes women do it more openly. C'mon Planned Parenthood is so opposed and women are shamed for 'murdering' . I also don't know if abortion is legal in every state of US or for any reason. Can you provide me links to update my knowledge? . For domestic violence, can you provide a good source to support your statistics? I am not talking about legal cases of objectification but I do believe women are objectified, even in simple underwear ads they are displayed so provocatively, do they not understand the meaning of lingerie and underwear separately? In films, shows, whenever they have to promote anything at all they bring in a hot girl dressed in skimpy clothes to increase viewership. In most of their music videos, they are basically just doing a stripteasing. Also I don't think they will take on a girl as a model or film actress if she refuses to dress provocatively or do sex acts since it reduces TRP.
I am not saying US needs a big feminist

[Elena_the_Star]

movement but I think it does a teeny tiny bit.

[TMasterFlex]

I apologize but this site will not let me post links until im like level 2 or something. The issue of underwear is that it is sexualized to men as well. We get muscular and well "endowed" men in out commercials and even on the packages. I do admit that there is a bigger sexualization of women but it is still an issue for everyone. In many tv shows today the father is seen as some idiot and his wife is there to get him out of situations. Correct me if im wrong, but isn't that oppression to men. These are issues that we as humans should tackle united... not separate.

[mistixs]

"Do something for my gender? After everything I have said in this mytake you expect me to want to? Honestly? Yes, I agree that some equality needs to take place. But when there are so maanh women out there who bash men's existence (including my 4 year old son) then no, they deserve no respect."

Wow, "not wanting to do anything for your gender" just because of a few bad apples. You're literally acting the same way as those "feminazis" do. You might as well say that men deserve no respect because some men are rapists.

[Anonymous]

As a man, I want to thank you for writing this and for speaking out against feminism.

I am constantly appalled at what feminism is and does and how many women actually still support it today. It is disgusting!

I am sorry your son had that experience in school, but sadly that is the experience of most boys in the US public school system today because it is dominated by feminists. My brothers and I all experienced the same misandry on a regular basis in school, and my nephews are experiencing it today.

The only way feminism will ever be exposed for what it is, and extinguished the way it should be, is if brave and honest women like you speak out against it. Thank you VERY much for doing that. You are very much appreciated.

[myTake Owner]

You're very welcome! Feminism today is getting more and more unbarable!

[Opinion Owner]

Agreed, although it has been unbearable for men and boys for a long time.

Thanks again.

[myTake Owner]

This is true! I just never noticed how truly disgusting it was before I had my son. I was never faced with it first hand like I am now. My son and husband go through so much because of the simple fact that they are male and I have never been so pissed in my life! My son, my husband and my daughter are the best things that ever happened to me and to have someone who is completely irrelevant to my life come in and try telling me the rights and wrongs of my doing (simply for having a son and husband) is down right ignorance! I'm honestly ashamed that I am even a woman sometimes because of these feminists.

[Opinion Owner]

You shouldn't be ashamed. You are one of the good ones and you are doing something about the problem by speaking up about it. You should be proud, not ashamed.

It is actually mothers of boys who have become the most outspoken critics of feminism because, like you, they see firsthand the sexism and outright hatred boys face in the world today and how it affects their little minds, and the men they become.

[Opinion Owner]

The biggest obstacle we face in the fight against feminism is the lie that it is about equality, which keeps girls and young women supporting the movement while the sexism of feminists in positions of power and influence continues to fly under the radar of those naive young supporters.

[myTake Owner]

If only more people could see the movement for what it truly is. So far I have not heard one feminist say anything about equality. Its always the same things over and over again. If I actually heard these feminists preach of the equality that they are supposedly going for then I do believe it would be a good and powerful movement. But it hasn't been like that for a very long time now and I truly believe, like you said, that these niave young girls actually think that its all about equality.

[Stephen10]

A famous paster once said that his mum, in the late 1960's, was part of the feminist movement. He said that she eventually left because most of the women in the feminist movement were angry lesbians who wanted to be men. I have often noticed myself that a lot of these radical feminists look quite manly or do not shave their arm pits.

Feminism is not about equality. This is a myth that has been repeated for such a long time that people just believe it's a fact. If you believe in equality then you're an equalist, not a feminist. A feminist is someone who has been brainwashed into believing that women are the most oppressed and disadvantaged in society so only women's rights should be the main focus. An equalist is someone who spends time focusing on both rights for men and women. Big difference.

[myTake Owner]

Huge difference! I'm glad someone else sees it for what it truly is!

[Stephen10]

The truth is there is an evil agenda by the powers that be to destroy people's happiness. That's why feminism gets so much funding from the government because it helps drive a wedge between men and women and confuse people's gender roles. It's okay ignoring these feminist parasites, but unfortunately feminism is still a strong force in the western world and is still causing a lot of misery. It's good that more people are waking up to the lie of feminism, but we still have a long way to go.

[Transigence]

Hear, hear.

[Anonymous]

Well to be honest, I see where you're coming from. You had a bad experience with "feminists" and it turned you off from the idea of feminism. I see why you dislike it. However, those women weren't feminists. They're just man-haters in disguise. It's a shame that women like those keep twisting the idea of feminism into something that's ugly and hateful. I'm a feminist myself and I acknowledge some of the people who claim to be a feminist but in reality they contradict everything feminism stands for, EQUALITY for the sexes.

[myTake Owner]

You are the pure definition of a woman who is fighting for REAL equality. I salute you! Please stay in your mind state because it is women like you who can weed out these feminazis and make the world a better place. You recognize that there are women posing as feminists, instead of defending them like most "feminists" do. Good for you!!

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks. Some people only want to spread hate. You just have to ignore those people and do what's best for you and your family.

[RationalLioness]

Wrong. That is a no true scotsman fallacy. Feminism is the ideology that is for womens rights. You can be for womens rights and be a man hater. Thats not good but those two aren't mutually exculsive. You can't claim that they aren't real Feminists. Theyre simply more radical.

[Opinion Owner]

It's impossible to be a feminist and a man hater because feminists want equality between the sexes.

[Opinion Owner]

fem·i·nism
ˈfeməˌnizəm/
noun
the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

[buttheadkakakak]

I remember when I was 15 me and my little 6 year old brother were walking together to the Petri Canada, and this stupid woman was walking around in her bra and underwear with a sign that said 'I am an empowered female'. I laughed and my brother was disgusted. The lady must have seen his face, because she started yelling and swinging her dumb sign at him. Calling him a freak and pervert because he was standing behind me. It got to the point where I actually had to shove this woman aside and walk with my brother to the store. So I understand lol 😕

[myTake Owner]

Its tough!! So many women these days are using feminism to mask their hatred toward men!

[buttheadkakakak]

Definitely. If these women want equality, maybe they should treat men like human beings as well

[myTake Owner]

Exactly!!!

[TMasterFlex]

When feminist who actually believe in equality say that "not all feminist are like that" i just want to ask them the reason on why they let the misandrist feminist do all of the talking in debates or go on television. What you said is great and empowering. You seem to truly understand equality. I send you a million praises if i could

[GirlScout]

Because they're busy being humans, not mental crusaders.

[TMasterFlex]

@GirlScout. Haha that is completely true

[PT1911]

Whoever you are, even if you're religious or not, God bless.

All of that you and your family endured is a lot, and my heart goes to your children that were exposed to so much at such a young age.

Your husband is an incredible man, and he is also a lucky one.

[myTake Owner]

I truly believe I am the lucky one! Thank you so much! I can only hope that I can keep my babies from anymore ignorance in the future.

[bente2]

I get why you wouldn't want to stand with THOSE feminists. I get that those experiences must've been quite traumatising to endure. I get all of this, but what I don't get, is how you can't be a feminist? I see that your vision of these 'feminists' is bad, so is mine because I disagree with most of the stated above. But feminism had also gotten us great things. We're nearly equal to men, not including countries in the middle east etc, those obviously need some work. Feminists are the only reason western women aren't treated as cattle, or a prize like in most eastern countries.

You do need to understand that the women you've talked about aren't feminists, they're arrogant man haters.

There are still feminists (like myself) who want equality, not to bring either sex down or blame it on one.

[Transigence]

"That is not feminism!"
I'm sorry, but it is feminism. It has ALWAYS been this from the beginning. Read the Declaration of Sentiments from 1857 and you'll see.

What it isn't, is women's rights activism. It's nothing but an anti-family threat narrative targeting men.

[GirlScout]

Anti family... Jesus Christ...

[Transigence]

@GirlScout They've openly declared their intention to destroy the institution of marriage.

[GirlScout]

"They"? Riiiight...

[Transigence]

@GirlScout All the ones who did and all the ones who never criticized it. "They."

[OfAfricandescent]

Wow, this seems hard to believe, especially the treatment of your children. I wish there was some way to show this to the world, as I don't believe this kind of behavior should be kept quiet.
In my experience there are women who do truly believe in equality, but for some reason mainstream society seems to be exposed to the more extreme side more often. I just hope more of them become more visible to your family and mainstream society.

[Transigence]

"there are women who do truly believe in equality"

Pretty much EVERYBODY believes men and women should have equal opportunities and equal protection under the law. It's not a particularly brave stance to take.

Most of us don't call ourselves feminists.

[OfAfricandescent]

@Transigence In my opinion if you truly believe in something you don't just talk about it, you do something about it. I can't honestly say I've seen both in everybody I've met. I've come across plenty of people who can talk about equal rights, but when it comes to showing it via their behavior, not all of them will show it.

[Vesuvius87]

There will always be small groups of extremists of all kinds. Avoid them and do what you fill comfortable with in your life. You have your fiance that cares about you and your first child. That's great.

You don't need to listen to ignorant that do nothing but irritate you.

[SomeKindOfPerson]

FEMINISTS ARE NOT A COHERENT GROUP

It's very loose category. Saying you're against feminists makes no sense. Saying you're for feminists makes no sense. Anyone who feels like it can claim to be a feminist.

[SomeKindOfPerson]

Maybe I'm a "feminist," and I'm not even a girl. Is that possible? Well, that depends who you ask.

[RationalLioness]

A feminist is someone who supports womens rights. Feminism is the ideology of gaining rights for women. How is that not clear?

[SomeKindOfPerson]

@RationalLioness Nothing is unclear in that statement per se. That is exactly what feminism is. But the definition of feminism is very vague. It says nothing about which rights are missing, what the problems are, how to redress them, and so forth. Different feminist movements have totally different and often contradictory answers to these questions. So it's more like a topic of interest than a coherent group of people that you can be for or against.

As a trivial example of how vague that definition is, anyone who supports women's suffrage can be called a feminist.

[Transigence]

Doesn't matter. Feminists can be divided into two groups: politically activated and non-activated. The politically activated feminists are red-pill (they know they're lying) and have power, and are using it to destroy families and demonize men.

All the politically non-activated feminists are the ones going around saying, "You don't understand! Feminism is all about equality and those aren't REAL feminists!" But they are powerless and can't actually create any equality. They also don't even try. All they do is engage in apologia for the former kind of feminist.

[SomeKindOfPerson]

@Transigence No they aren't divided into two groups. Politically active feminists have completely different opinions and philosophies, divided into very separate and distinct movements. They can't agree on shit, beyond the fact that there are some problems with women's standing in society, a fact we can all agree on to some extent.

What people think feminists believe is a hodgepodge of various things actually espoused by specific feminist movements and total fiction. People seem to assume that everyone who calls themselves a feminist believes in the entire mess.

The fact that everyone seems to think their brand of feminism is the true feminism just makes things even worse.

[Transigence]

I never said they were divided into two groups. However, after I divided them into two groups, they were. I said they CAN be divided into two groups. They can be divided many ways, depending on how you need to reckon them. What I'm suggesting with the way that I parsed feminism is that the infighting is irrelevant. Its myriad internal sub-groups really don't mean shit, because at the center of every last one of those is the myth of patriarchy, binding them all.

The reason I divided them such that I did was to point out that regardless of what sub-group you belong to, you're part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

I do hear at work about feminism and equality for women yet i see how women treat each other with work and they don't treat each other as equals. I've seen women been ignored, bulled and gossiped about by other women. A female friend of mine was pushed in a bar one nite by a bigger lady for no reason and she'd a bit of back pain after it. This is not how a movement should treat each other.

[RationalLioness]

Not all women are part of it.

[Opinion Owner]

True, i just do see how hard it can be for women to fit in among other women.

[Anonymous]

No one will believe you. You need to get with other concerned parents and band together. Its the only way the TRUE nature of feminism will ever come to light! Some video evidence might also help considerably.

[Transigence]

ABR. Always Be Recording. And yes, find support.

[QooLipBite]

This man is right, I think some investments need to be put into these kinds of experiences and made known to others if it becomes too problematic and out of hand.

Videos on social media work unbelievably well when it comes to spreading ideas. Just a click of a 'retweet' or 'share' button and boom. Thousands of others will see this, and they click 'share'... Infinite possibilities.

I wish for my future children to have to be exposed to such injustice and hatred.

[damnwinter]

I don't know who has it worse, but I also think feminism nowadays is taking it too far. You are very brave to post this.

[myTake Owner]

Thank you!

[TheBasil]

Men have it bad women have it bad blah bla.. Nobody in the western society really do have something to complain about.

Norhing irks med more then when women writes article like these... Men i don't care because they have no idea about being a woman lol

Feminism = Equality. Feminism have always meant equality for BOTH GENDERS. Just use wiki.

Go back to the kitchen if you want. You should respect your own gender, since they are most like you.

We need feminism. You need feminism. You would probably go around whining about it if we didn't have it. No way in hell i accept being the submissive weak gender.

If you hate feminism so much just move Saudi Arabia. You would love it there <3

[PT1911]

Equality =\= running around topless in front of a 4 year old and them accusing him of being a pervert just fot glancing. Equality =\= man hating.

Did you even read? Or just judge it by the title?

[myTake Owner]

@PT1911 she clearly didn't read the article. Thank you for sticking up for me.

[TheBasil]

Read some bits lol

I just find it annoying when women are against feminism lol makes no sence in the world.

[myTake Owner]

No. What makes no sense is you feminists preaching about equality and women's rights to CHOOSE to do what she wants and believe in what she wants. Yet you people sit there and bash the first woman who CHOOSES not to stand by you!

[Kirah]

When was the last time feminism has ever done anything for men?

[RationalLioness]

So apl feminists are that way? Irrational. There are bad seeds in every ideology. Its foolish to assume everyone in the group is bad.

[Transigence]

All feminists are either that way, or they're like you and do nothing to criticize those feminists and blindly defend the feminist brand from any criticism on the basis that "some of you aren't like that."

It's despicable. It's obvious what you're doing now.

[Dipsy]

Feminism = wanting only more rights for women (women superiority)
Equalism = wanting equal rights for both genders (women and men equal)

Know the difference

[mistixs]

@Transigence "All feminists are either that way, or they're like you and do nothing to criticize those feminists"
Actually I'm a feminist who does openly criticize feminists who do things such as what is mentioned in the OP. To their face. & I've changed some of their minds.

[Sjeggy]

there is no need to be anonymous
you're awesome :)

[lumos]

Yeah ok, and let's hate on literally all Christians now because of what Westboro Baptist church is like.

[myTake Owner]

What the fuck are you talking about

[lumos]

Westboro baptist church and how literally every Christian is like them. Just like how all feminists are like the ones you mentioned in your take.

[myTake Owner]

When I meet a real feminist maybe then we will talk. I have yet to meet one damned feminist that is actually for equality.

[lumos]

Hello. How are you?

[myTake Owner]

You can say you're a real feminist online all day. I'm not in anyway bashing you so don't for one second think that. But you have to understand that until I come face to face with a real feminist (and I'm not talking free the nip and dying the arm pit hair feminists) then its going to be hard for me to ever take feminism a as a whole seriously. This is because of what I have been through what my children have been through. Those people who used feminism as a mask to bull my son and try to corrupt my daughter were not feminists. And although these women are radical and overall quite ignorant individuals, its make it hard for me to have any faith whatsoever when it comes tobsufh topics. Have you, as a feminist, tried pulling through and weeding out these women who use feminism as a mask?

[lumos]

I've tried debating with a few of them since I don't encounter such people a lot in the first place. But you've got to realize that these are not people you just "weed out". They're called extremists for a reason. You can't "weed out" ISIS for example, without actually killing them. You can't talk sense into them. You can't force them to think logically. These are the kind of people are so set in their beliefs that they will more or less die with them. They can't be converted. Which is the whole point of calling them "extremists". As a feminist I'd do everything in my power to change them but I can't. And the media knows this. The media profits off of these extremists, because they bring the views. They bring the outrage in others. Nobody cares about people with sensible views.

[myTake Owner]

I just don't like when its brought to my family. That's all. These people don't have any respect.

[lumos]

I agree. But don't view them as the only people who represent feminism, please. Just like Westboro Baptist church doesn't represent all Christians. Or ISIS represents all Muslims.

[myTake Owner]

Yeah, I know. I just get very hostile sometimes.

[lumos]

Hostility is not going to solve anything. Making generalizations won't either. I understand the point you're trying to make but there are still a lot of logical and good feminists out there. Disregarding the entire movement and the good things it has achieved because of a few complete idiots is not a logical or reasonable thing to do.