Extreme Feminists and What I Believe

[Anonymous]

A lot of people are talking about Feminism and its rising popularity. Below is myTake on Feminism. It may not be your specific view, but just hear me out. I'm a girl so I can affirm I have been both patted on the back for my view and called out for not being a "true woman" because I'm not a feminist. So before any of you sharpen your pitch forks of difference, let me explain. These views do not adress every single feminist. I'm talking about ideas not people so I'm not singling any person out.

Strength or Excuse?

Some see Feminism as a beautiful strength. Be proud of who you are, but as soon as something goes against you, yell and say it was due to your gender because it will show the most results. I can see where strength is found in the familiarity of gender, you'll need people to back you up in this harsh world. Who better to support you than someone of the same gender who understands your problems? I say jump into the craziness called life and see how far you can go. Take comfort from everyone and live life to the fullest!

Feminism bothers me because I see feminism as an excuse or weakness. If a girl wants something, she can either go after it with everything she has or complain and blame it on herself being a girl. It reminds me of a self conscious problem. I'd rather be strong in myself than whimpering about equal rights. Do girls want to be strong and try harder or looking for the excuse of gender when they fall short?

The Abortionists

I am aware that not all feminists are for abortion. I'm not pointing this at every feminist, but this is a popular topic and I thought I needed to address it. The simple way for me to say my stance is that abortion make me nauseous. Who would kill a human over the fact that it's her body? Sorry, but now your sharing your body with another innocent, helpless baby. They're a beautiful being and your destroying it. Killing another for the sake of yourself with no life threatening situations I believe is just selfish. I see this as a power struggle. It's all about control right? I control my body. I control my life, but in all honesty who's life is actually completely controlled by themselves? If we controlled our lives completely nothing would go against us, but that would clash horribly with other views. So to make up for those uncomtrolable situations, we do our best. In the end, the control is at the cost of another human being. Who's taking away rights now?

Rape

No one asked for rape. No one deserves rape. My stance on rape is to stand up for the rape victims. By making rape a feminist problem isn't wrong, but I think it takes away from the seriousness of rape. Rape also doesn't also mean the forced sexual encounters for only girls. Men are raped also. If you want to stand up for rape victims, stand up for them and them alone. Don't pull other problems into a problem already heavy in severity. Rape is very serious. Don't take the attention rape deserves away.

Unequal! Unfair!

Personally, I'm not feeling the unequal rights. If there's a position for a job and a guy and girl go for it, I expect the best one to win. If the guy is more qualified and will do better, give it to him, but now a days, if that happens girls will go crazy and say that the guy should give it to them because it's not fair because they are girls. I see that as unfair. Or when a woman is told she can't have a job or something else because she is a woman. I also see that as unfair.

Girls and guys will never be equal no matter what. Just look at us. I bet you can think of one difference physically that seperates us. I do not like the idea of feminist because of the few who go too far. It's just annoying because I'm not bothered by a guy who could give me a run for my money, but energized to do my very best to win. I want a challenge and not a short cut. If there is a gender preference that is offensive, why go for it? He or she is NOT worth it. Make your life easier by staying away from that and let their own problems bite them in the butt!

What about the guys?

I can't say this for sure because I'm not a guy, but I feel like in a feminists way of making herself known, she puts down guys. Now instead of equal rights we have a flip. Guys had the upper hand for a very long time so now by equal rights the extreme feminists expect a red carpet that puts guys in the girls place before the feminist movement when there were no rights. The men I know say they feel like women are mad at them for something in the past they had no control over.

Finally

I say get rid of the term and fight for yourself. You want something? Work for it! If you fall short find another way but don't blame it on your gender (male or female) because it makes us all look incapable. It degrades the entire gender. If nothing else, show your acceptance and your compassion with everyone no matter what makes them, them! Little actions make big differences!

.... Alright my two cents are out there. Hope y'all have a wonderful day! :)

[Anonymous]

I agree with mostly everything except for the abortion part. If (I definitely won't if I can help it) I ever get pregnant, I would not be able to deal with it. I would rather commit suicide than grow a baby inside me if abortion didn't exist. Now that might seem a bit extreme to some people, and I see nothing wrong with OTHER people choosing and deciding to have a baby, but me personally I would not be able to handle it. I just couldn't. Everyone has their own opinion, I mean hay, you have your own individual view on it as displayed here by this post, and I respect it, I may not/never agree to i, but I can see where your coming from and why. But in that same sense, I halos have my own views and opinions on it. You can respect them or not but in the end, it's not my choice or your choice to make decisions for another person. If that person wants to have an abortion who are you to stop it. Who are you, or even i, to tell them that they are not allowed to do that? And in the end that's really what matters, if the person wants to do that, they have their own reasons behind such a choice but it's still their choice and no one should be able to or should be allowed to take that choice away from them

[TimeSplitters123]

The better thing to do would be for you to commit suicide, you coward

[Jager66]

Extreme Feminist and Feminist are more or less interchangeable now days.

"Guys had the upper hand for a very long time"

This just isn't true, it's Feminist propaganda. Men and women both had a shit deal in the past when life was about surviving the winter, each had their role to play and each role had benefits and draw backs. The Feminist notion that it was about oppression is total bullshit.

[lumos]

Women were treated like property and literally sold by men, to men. How is that equal? Men were seen as individuals with their own rights and needs. Women were seen as objects that were bought in order to tend to the needs of men. So men did indeed have the upper hand, and still do in so many countries.

[Jager66]

@lumos Men were also bought and sold through out history, it's not something women have a monopoly on.

What your saying only makes sense if you ignore every other factor involved. Women had inherent worth, men did not. It's why men had to risk their lives working horrible jobs to eek out a meager living in hopes that they might one day be valuable enough that a woman would be his wife.

The risks of pre marital sex were just way to high! It's why there was so many social pressures not to have it, why mom and dad had the last say in who their daughter married. It was because life was harsh, people regularly starved to death, froze to death in their homes in the winter, died of infection got murdered by robbers, bandits, armies, animals etc... Everything was established to put as much hardship and risk onto men to keep women and children as safe as possible.

Women could have jobs, and did!!, they could have children without a man and a place to live as well but no one took her

[Jager66]

seriously because bastard children were and are often a plague on society, children who grow up without fathers are at much more risk of every thing that is measured as social disfunction or success.

A woman's father or husband was legally responsible for everything she did, her debts included, he had to pay the price, even jail time. Keep in mind there was no bankruptcy it was debtors prison to work as a slave until the debt was repaid.

Women could also remain single and live with their families or move out and live on their own and work as a live in servant or something for a rich person. There were plenty of jobs women did they were just the low risk easy ones.

It was not about oppression it was about survival and sacrifing for the ones you love. If it was about oppression then that means women are the only group in history to be oppressed basically forever, meaning your arguing that women are inferior to men, which I simply cannot agree with.

[lumos]

But who were the men bought and sold by? Other men. So men still had the upper hand in general, women selling men is pretty much unheard of. Poor men usually married poor women, so they still had options even if they were poor and working dangerous jobs, so they were valuable either way. "Mom and dad" didn't have a say. Dad did. The husband-to-be didn't ask permission from the mother (unless she was a single mother - and even then I've heard that he would ask her grandfather instead), he asked permission from the father. The mother didn't have much of a say at all. I'm not saying women didn't have jobs. But the jobs they had, mostly, were in the shadows of men. As secretaries, housekeepers etc.

[Jager66]

@lumos Soldiers have been conscripted to go to war by the thousands, even millions, for as long as there has been war.

Men have been sold into slavery just as often as any women have been.

Getting married is hardly the same thing as either of these, and just because there were a few bad apples does not mean for the most part it worked really well. Most marriages were not women being sold anyway. Your focusing on 1 issue and ignoring everything else. I'm not saying it was perfect, I'm saying that Feminism has got it all wrong.

[Jager66]

Even today in the U. S and many other countries men are forced to sign up for the draft by the millions, billions?

[Jager66]

In the shadows of men? you can't be serious... Have you every given any thought as to what life for men is like? what it was like in the past?

How about this article as one example, written by a man in 1857:

gynocentrism.com/.../

[Rawrzz]

Let me first say that I do like your perspective. Many feminist tend to argue for advantage than equality. Like the woman who failed the firefighting test and still got hired, just because she was female.

However. The idea that men have had the upper hand for a long time. That is what I hate most about feminsm. It is a spit on the graves of millions of men who died protecting their families and countries. They weren't hardworking men who put food on the table--they were oppressive overlords who infinitely gained from freedom by enslaving women through marriage. But did the men dying by the tens of millions in WWII have the upper hand? Did the thousands who died laying railroad tracks? Did the thousands who suffocated in collapsed mines or dying from gas leaks have the upper hand? Do the 5,000 Americans who are 92% male dying per year in America today have the upper hand? Why aren't women doing the hard, dangerous jobs as much as men? Not saying they should, simply pointing out what could be general female aversion to danger.

Would you have preferred to die on a battlefield or work 16 hours plowing a field in the hot sun, or do housework?

This is entirely what is wrong with the feminist movement. Feminism is a horrendous insult to women. And men. Every faucet of the feminist movement states that men gained from freedoms and held women down. But was that really the case? I do not believe so. I believe that men wanted so badly to protect women, that they did not want them risking themselves. They wanted to protect them. And women wanted same

Further, and this will be more controversial, women never fought for their rights. In the hundreds of thousands of years women were supposed to have been oppressed and enslaved to the kitchen, they never rose up against their overlords. At least, not until a virtual eyeblink ago. Why? Was there ever a more convincing argument for female inferiority, contrasted to all other oppressed peoples who rose up against their oppressors? The rights that men had... were not free. They paid for them in blood, sweat, and tears. They had responsibilities that killed them. They had expectations. And women got those same freedoms without any of the sacrifice. Further, they didn't care about them until the end of the Industrial Revolution, where the feminist movement started. Why? Because everything became 1,000 times safer. Then, women demanded the same rights that men had, without the sacrifices and payments in blood. And got them.

[Rawrzz]

by the way. My ending might be misconstrued. I do not believe that women should not have freedoms. I believe women should be able to do whatever they want to do like anyone else. But I vehemently dislike the notion that women were weak and inferior and men were super-dominant and oppressive. I don't see why more men and women don't feel the same.

[myTake Owner]

Genuine question- are you asking me directly those questions? In mytake I was defending both male and female. By saying men had the upper hand was referring to a lot of what feninists are trying to stress. They want what men had (which I think is quite ridiculous because it's in the past). You have many good points in your comment. I believe you have good sense to you and I understood you were defending past actions and not putting women to shame. I have recently struck an interest in history books and in many points when you say that men had their struggles I 100% agree. But In the feninists POV I was able to see that yes we're quite inferior at times. where I completely agree with you is when you say men had their struggles. I think femenists focus on the best outcome in life when theirs isn't in their control. They want the control they think men had and that's as far as they think. They don't take into consideration all that men had to labor through.

[myTake Owner]

But like I said, it's all about control and when you loose yours or want more, you look somewhere else for it and that's where you get narrow minded. Femenists want control of their lives to the highest degree they can get if you think about it. They want the benefits without the trouble like you stated. It's a pretty brutal thing and it's not limited for any type of person. I feel like it can turn into somewhat of an addiction.

[Rawrzz]

I wasn't saying you weren't defending men and women. Also why I said I liked your perspective. However, I did have an issue with some of the way you worded things. "I'd rather be strong in myself than whimpering about equal rights." This implies that feminists are wrong for wanting "equal" rights, not that they want advantages. Although, you did sorta qualify that with "Personally, I'm not feeling the unequal rights"

Here. This is it. "Guys had the upper hand for a very long time so now by equal rights the extreme feminists expect a red carpet that puts guys in the girls place before the feminist movement when there were no rights." <-- Guys had the upper hand for a long time. My assertion was that their upper hand led to significantly more women reproducing and passing on their genes than the many dead men. And also that women were not held down, but protected. In general.

That's my point though. I don't believe women were or are inferior. I believe they had no reason to fight.

[Rawrzz]

Ahhhhhhhh, okay. I see what you're saying. You were speaking as a feminist, not from your own perspective. Gotcha. My bad.

I think that's how some feminists are. But I also think most feminists really believe they're fighting for equality. The only thing is, the hardcore crazy feminists make up issues or blow issues that exist out of proportion--like the non-existent wage gap, when it's illegal to discriminate and companies would only hire women if they could pay them less--then that becomes general knowledge, and everyone believes it. I was the same way. I was a hardcore feminist since I was like 15, because if those issues were real, why wouldn't you be a feminist, right?

In any case, I see what you were saying now. I think we're in agreement.

Though I would stress again that I don't believe women have been inferior or are. Simply that they were comfortable with the way things were in the past, so they didn't need to fight.

And yeah. It is all about control. Everyone wants it.

[myTake Owner]

Yes. It's an odd think of perspective. Personally, I think that no matter who you are, you are going to have struggles and depending on who you are (gender, race, characteristics) there will be some problems worse than others that make you think you have it so much worse and want something that seems better but has its ups and downs also. thats why I think there won't be equality- everyone is so naturally different that being equal is nearly impossible- that wasn't implying anything negative. Take your blessings and your problems and be ok. build off of others instead of going after them. -if you get what I mean. It's kinda confising

[Rawrzz]

Yeah, I totally get that. Everything has advantages and disadvantages. Although, I don't think that should mean we should be content with the disadvantages we have. I think the most important thing is really knowing exactly what are disadvantages and what are advantages. Just knowing, in general, is most important. True equality is impossible, for sure. But we can try to get as close as possible to where most people are happy. Or, if not happy, then content. I think it's mostly like that, today, really. But yeah. I get what you're saying.

[devilish-cutie]

I haven't read all you wrote but in the end you say that a person has to relay on herself and that is true, but it's not about one persons problem but about wrong view on females from the whole society.
The whole point of feminism is not to attack any gender but to realize that female gender is more downgraded and not appreciated and valued as men are in many areas of life. It's similar to racism, you cannot say one black person has to stand up for themselves, cause the problem is not only his inidividual, but it concerns all people that are black. General opinion about many things considering females has to change, that is the point.

[myTake Owner]

What makes me feel downgraded is when feminism tells me I am. what are females degraded on? I've heard of a few but I've never been directly bothered by anything that was said. For example: The problem I have been bothered with is the Chinese acceptance for abandoning their first daughters if they didn't get a son (Mostly due to the rule they had about one child). That is truly horrible, the way my family helped is going to China and saving two girls who were abandoned. They were adopted into our family and we constantly help the abandonned girls in China because we have compassion for them along with every other person. When one of those girls are with us, we don't tell them they aren't desired because they are loved by many people or My family and the people I know. I tell them they are loved and no one can tell them otherwise. Would someone rather say "no. You were abandonned because they didn't want you." or "the situation is unfortunate, but you are loved dearly by many and your

[myTake Owner]

"You past can hurt you or it can push you to do the best you can. Don't dwell on it in pain, but pull from it the determination for the future" (sorry it was too long to fit in one comment)

[devilish-cutie]

look, maybe you are lucky and just haven't experienced that much bad things that other females did. And in your country that is maybe not that much of an issue, but I'd say that's an issue troughout the whole world. Also, just cause you have no such experience it doesn't mean it doeasn't exist. If so many females are angry and feel downgraded and it came to the point that there is that thing called feminism, it is not without reason. First, the worst probably have it the muslim women. They cannot even get education, can't even be the only wife of their husband for that matter. That is all facts. But many issues that remain in most countires are not that much of the facts but more of opinions of the mases that create social behavior structure. If a female goes to army, she can, bus she will have it ten times harder. Being in army is not about physical strenght, it's also about skills, like shooting, strategising etc. But yet many people would always think men is more capable than women.

[devilish-cutie]

Women are generally less believed on. Only little over 100 years we haven't even had the right to vote. There is slutshaming, bodyshaming... beliving women like pink and are to emotional and should take care of the kids and home. Gender roles are the problem. Being a housewife is ok, but if some women doesn't want that mostwill disaprove. Feminism is also about males, not only females, it's about both gender issues, but mostly females yes. If a male wants to work in the kindergarden people will make him feel bad about that. If a man cries in public that is not socially acceptable... etc. All that prevent an individual to fully express themselves and makes it all much more harder than it has to be. There are always mena women that claim to do things in the name of feminism, same as people doing bad things in the name of God. But none of it has do to anything with god or feminism. Most people think feminism is wrong mostly are not really familiar with it or know what it really means.

[devilish-cutie]

if you are interested about to know more about the matter you can watch Emma Watson speech about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9SUAcNlVQ4

[myTake Owner]

1) I personally believe in waiting until marriage for sex. I don't slut shame and I have not seen much slut shaming where I've been. Any type of shaming is wrong and it shows the immature nature people have come to.
2) pink. Really? Would you really get offended about colors?
3) emotional. People believe we are emotional because of the scientific evidence. Whether they take it too far is annoying yes, but all you have to do is show them your not. Or make them know they're wrong.
4) my dad is more of a "house dad" and my mom is a working mom. It is becoming more popular for women to work. Most women I know or come in contact with do work and have worked their balance between male and female out beautifully. I understand their are others who are shamed for that, but they should be upfront with what they want and get away from any unnecessary set backs.
5) people should change the word feminism because it singles girls out. I say drop the word because every person has their struggles no

[myTake Owner]

No matter who they are. Everyone needs strength in some way and singling out won't help. Rely on everyone and not one type of person. That is how you reach some form of equal ground with others.

[devilish-cutie]

you are saying how it's normal and how it should be and maybe you have it normal. but I'm telling you that others really don't. You choose to belive that or not. I cannot explain how deeply disturbes me this issue, I have often been put down just cause I'm a female and I have always fight for things in my life on a personal level. But the issue is not only personal, society is the one that has to change. I cannot freely be myself in a place that does not accept me as I am. I don't wanna fight my whole lfe proving people they are wrong about their stereotipe of me, I say society has to change it's perspective. People are sheeps. I know there are girls that would say like you wrote that they should get the job rather then men, but that is not what feminism is about. Mostly that is not the case, mostly it happens that the job gets the guy just cause he is the guy. That is the reality. You also only commented on what suited you. What about muslim women? etc.

[devilish-cutie]

Also it's called feminism instead of equality because it is the feminine traits that men and women are shamed for. It is the feminine traits that society needs to accept and value.
People can use recism by playing the victim but we cannot say there is no recisim and that everyone should deal with that by himself.

[myTake Owner]

The world is very unfair and I get that. You say you fight it and it sounds like it exhausts you. Why do you stay? Why don't you leave the hurtful people to themselves and make your life better? The way you speak makes me think those people will not change, so why continue to exhaust yourself with something that won't ease up? I didn't speak about Muslim women because that wasn't what my my take was about. Like I said, the world is very unfair and my heart hurts for the women who are hurting because of some of the people who abuse them. it probably sways one way or the other in different countries or areas, but if I wanted something, I would go for it. If I wanted to be accepted for my traits, I would go somewhere where I am. Those people who degrade you don't deserve to be around you because every person (inc. you) is beautifully unique. Maybe if people leave those areas for what is desired, they will see. fighting fuels but showing what your think right and a majority follows is power

[devilish-cutie]

if I wanted something, I would go for it - yes, I do that all the time, but a lot of times you cannot cross the barries or they take the best of you. Things are not that practical as you think, trust me on that one. One day maybe you'll get it. It's nice to speak about theory: If I wanted to be accepted for my traits, I would go somewhere where I am. But trust me things are not that simple. I'm very practical and I know. If you don't have money, how you can go? If you achive something in your life like you're a guy and you work in the kindergarden, but imagine how would you feel when so many people would look down on that. That kind of life is not enjoyable. You want to live in harmony and the only way that's gonna happen is if society change. And that's why I say there is a need for feminism. Black people were slaves before and society cahnged, and in the same way things have to change for women (both gender roles), people as mases has to change. People I fight, they change, but

[devilish-cutie]

cannot take the whole fight on myself. If people around the world promote gender equallity, things would change for those that cannot go and can't really do much about their situation.

[ThisDudeHere]

But what if the woman did not sign up to be raped and inpregnated? What if she was a struggling student barely having ends meet who now ALSO has a child thrust on her? What if she gets pregnant during an important period of the year when she can't afford to walk around with an inflated belly? What if she's looking for a job? Although illegal, it is still a well known fact that employers will try to not employ pregnant women?
What if she was raped by someone she utterly hated? Now not only does she have to live with being a victim to such a shameful situation, but now she also has to carry the child of the man who wronged her on so many levels.

Yes a child didn't ask to be made but a woman didn't ask for the child either.

[myTake Owner]

So you kill it? To make your your life better. I recently did a research paper on abortion and rape being a reason was one of the lowest reasons why women get an abortion. The highest reason was "not ready or willing" -that speaks volumes. So just because you don't think your ready, you take away someone's life. There are far better options than to resort to killing the child. Now not all people feel the same but I believe abortion is wrong. If you had a night of passion that ended with a child you weren't expecting... That's your fault. I also knew a girl who was pregnant in high school that would soon go into college. She spoke with me about being pregnant and said "it's my challenge. I'm having him and I will own up to my actions. If I am unfit to raise him or her, I will give them to adoptive parents of my choice" -that's being strong.

[ThisDudeHere]

Don't get me wrong, I'm also of the thought that a night of passion or a simple "oops... got prego" is not an excuse to get an abortion. I'm only saying that it should be available ONLY in cases of rape or when there are health risks for the mother.

[myTake Owner]

If it puts the mothers life at a serious risk, I'll let her make that judgment call

[ThisDudeHere]

What do you mean? If there's serious risk then of course she should have it available...

I may have missed your point.

[myTake Owner]

I believe abortion should be avoided at all costs. If the child is a serious threat to the woman's life (meaning death) she can have the judent call for what she wants. My mother faced death with me and kept me despite the chance of her dying and I find that admirable.

[ThisDudeHere]

Oh. But what about rape? Would you tell a woman, who has just been raped and is looking for an abortion, that she could not attain one? Yes, sure, I can understand trying to persuade her to not do it but to strip her of the chance of doing it... is it correct?

[myTake Owner]

I can state my opinion but I will not force anyone to do anything. You're right, I will try to help them see the good outlook, but if they are dead set on an abortion, I will be really sad but not interfere. It would be wrong to force someone to do something they desperately don't want to do. I still stand by my opinion tho. I'm not a person who wants to force women not to have an abortion, I would rather help them and show a better option, but I will not force them.

[ThisDudeHere]

That is agreeable.

[Entity]

"A lot of people are talking about Feminism and its rising popularity.

Which means a lot of people are dimwits and you shouldn't listen to them. Feminism is actually declining in popularity in the West and has been for about 30 years now. Even in '92 with third wave one of the major issues was that 2nd wave was actually an extremely narrow regimen that basically ignored minorities and chastised certain views and lifestyles. It's expansion to "all women" which soon included transfeminism and reclamation efforts for cultures of minorities was in a sense also a response to it's decline since 2nd wave...

No one cares about the history of it. Hell, there are no feminists, just people who fly a banner without knowing what it means. I am saddened. Feminism and Christianity have taken the same stance; few who believe and many who profess.

[myTake Owner]

im actually a Christian who practices and has a strong faith. I believe that your correct but there are still many of us who are strong Christians who believe.

[Entity]

Then you first and foremost need to know that what you call an extreme feminist is equivalent to what other people see as extreme Christians, like the Westboro Church, but no one really considers them Christian or anywhere near Christ-like so how in the world can we consider those who would be extreme with political views truly adherent to the political dogma?

Because feminists are rather rare and third-wave has gone in too many directions to be held under a unified banner of goals and vision, it is incredibly unwise to state, let alone compare, yourself to a maniac. It's equivalent to saying, "I am very Christ-like because Westboro exists and I am way better than them."

[myTake Owner]

When did I say I was better than someone? Would you like me to clarify what kind of christian I am? There are many different beliefs within the title of christian. But that's not at all what I was getting at or the point of the my take. extreme Christianity is out there just like many other extremes but that's not my point with this my take. Forgive me if I'm a little confused, but what is your main point? The decrease in feminists and Christianity?

[Entity]

I'm not saying you specifically said that, it's an ex... ample. What am I even doing? You're right.

I'll leave.

[dartmaul15]

BRAVO!

Well said there. And you do point on some of the major problems with feminism (even if i felt dragging abortion into it was unnecesary, as it can spark a totally different debate).

but know this. feminism isn't on the rise, it's just that the few ones left have discovered facebook, twitter, and generally just the internet megaphone. They're just becomming louder to compensate XD

[mentor]

I agree with everything you said except on abortion because some women have it because they are not ready to be a mother and it will be unbeneficial for her life but also the future baby's life. Also if the women doesn't want it for any reason it is her choice and she should decide what she wants

[myTake Owner]

Thank you! But there is a better way than just killing the child. For example: there are many parents who can't have children and if a woman doesn't want her child what do you think is better? Killing the child? Or blessing a family with a child they couldn't have?

[JustAnotherPassenger]

That would be true if there was higher demand to adopt children than there are orphans, which is an utter lie not just in the US but virtually in every country of the world, those arguments get on my nerves because they are sustained by air and nothing else and it is an intellectually dishonest way of dealing with the argument. The same as calling a 1 week old fetus "a living being", that's religious bs and you should keep religious for yourself and not impose it on others. No one is turning Abortion into a sport.

[myTake Owner]

@JustAnotherPassenger no one brought religion in this until you said it. And if you want science, look it up because there is proof that the child is most definitely alive at conception.

[TheHooptyMiata]

Your views on abortion make me nauseous. Rape babies? Underage pregnancies? Situations where aborting it is kinder than letting it live, such as if the mom's a junkie? There are thousands of reasons to abort a baby. I can't see how you can view a fetus that doesn't even have a functioning brain yet as a human.

The rest's good though.

[BruceJender]

I remember back in the day when GaG was full of questions on religion... literally, you'd have hundreds of them a day!

I'm fed up with all this Feminist nonsense too now, and I'm sure a lot of us are.

[jonathanDOE]

Abortion is not that clear cut.

But then if people are denied the right to vote, then yep, it's wrong to highlight that. and what is wrong with equal rights? who then deserves more rights?

[SIGguy]

It seems like you have a pretty down to Earth view on feminism. I appreciate that!😊

[Anonymous]

Great take! I'm encouraged to see more and more intelligent women like you who are calling feminism out for what it is. Thanks for being honest and speaking up for what you believe.

[TimeSplitters123]

Well said about the abortion thing totally agree, but this is one of the reasons i don't like feminism

[Anpu23]

Good my take.