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With all these takes from guys saying how guys have it worse and girls saying how girls have it worse it's like people find being a victim is something to be proud of...
Nice take but I hugeleu disagree with number 8 buddy I mean guys can find it esy to gain the ideal shape they want also there is a lot of factors that play into it such as :
diet
genetics
age
trainning intessetey
trainning type
training frequencey
and few others
Minus that good take :)
maybe, I just think on the whole mass-building is harder than just being fit.
... yeah, I cannot argue with 9. I cannot trust people to help me with the problems I face.
You made some very good points about issues surrounding men that deserve attention. I dont agree with #8 though, also, stop comparing to feminism! male issues are for EVERYONE to address.
But I compare to feminism precisely because it is not going to be their first concern. For an egalitarian, male and female issues would be equal concern.
the comparison honestly makes it sound less of a true issue in this world and more of a retaliation... the arguments are stronger without the comparison.
It doesn't have to be feminisms first concern! Just because it's an equality group doesn't mean it has to placate! In egalitarianism, there are thousands of little groups within that all strive for equality, but they all choose a specific demographic. Feminism is that group for women.
I'm really growing weary of the "waah feminism" butthurt.
'the comparison honestly makes it sound less of a true issue in this world'
the problem is that the focus on feminism rather than men's rights also marginalises the latter. a shift of focus on to egalitarianism gives every body an equal voice and marginalises nobody.
'I'm really growing weary of the "waah feminism" butthurt.'
It's not really like that. I'm just saying a focus on egalitarianism is usually more helpful and constructive helpful for both genders, neither of which deserve to be marginalised. This is especially the case in a world where both have their separate issues neither gender necessarily having it 'better' or 'worse'. In fact, it's usually a case of 'the grass is greener on the other side'. I'm not butthurt about feminism because I'm actually fine with being a man and I personally don't have to face most of the issues highlighted in the Mytake. I am just trying to look at this objectively.
Have you seen that movie Knock Knock?
Yeah.
The fuck are you supposed to do in that situation.
The man has a point... but Keanu Reeves tied to a bed... drool 😛 lol
haha that movie trailer was weirdly hot.
for me, the main focus in this mytake is on anal rape by another man since it seems like such a rare and bizzarre situation a woman could 'rape' a man (almost playing into his own fantasy, really) but I'm not denying it could happen under very exceptional circumstances, e. g. with viagra and a sheet of chloroform. still, I think being a man and being anally raped by another man is the worst form of sexual assault.
Well in the movie, they seduce him into a threesome, and I mean he really does try to resist at first but it's clear they're not gonna give up. Isn't that basically rape?
After that they just torment him and claim that they're under 18 so they could charge him with statutory rape...
lol, well from the trailer it didn't seem like he was giving an awful lot of resistance to two gorgeous women giving him head in the shower.
I don't know, I can sympathise with sexual assault from a woman, and definitely have sympathy for men who have been raped by another man. But rape from a woman just seems pretty implausible by and large. That's why I gave mentioned to it (and the figures are still not as large as women getting raped by men) but it wasn't really a major theme in the mytake.
Yeah but he never gave a clear and enthusiastic "yes".
hmm ok.
I'm sick of this ''men get attacked more'' stuff.
Funny enough, its not WOMEN that are going around attacking men. Its men. You are the arcitects of your own problems. Sort that out and we won't have to worry being beaten up by men too.
3.
Actually we live just as long as a woman... until we meet one. lol.
Lol that's true. To be honest I think some men die younger is due to the nagging, cajoling, telling what we can and can't do. Some men can't take it anymore. I hear married men talk about their misery like they want to no longer live.
@Mysterio421
its the opposite. this is very well documented for many decades. women who are not married live longer than women who are married.
men wh are not married die younger than men who are marred.
you're probably right about the effects of nagging, but its not from the women.
@Azara Then what is it from? xD Where is the documented proof? I would like to do some research.
Lol at the fitnesa one. Hahaha no that's not all we have to do!
It's way easier for men to bulk up than it is for women to lose weight
tbh, my own personal experience as a man is that it's never been hard staying slim (and we are, generally speaking, bigger builds than women) but nothing in my life has ever been harder than bulking up - doing reps to failure, stimulating muscular hypertrophy, doing tough lifts like squat and deadlift, building up core strength and flexibility required to do this lifts with good form, going into calorie excess during bulking phases, calorie deficit phases to cut down on bodyfat. there are few things in life that challenge you as much physically or psychologically.
keeping fit is different from bulking up dude. compare bulking up as a man vs bulking up as a female. it is harder for a female to bulk up especially due to hormonal influence. regardless, i admire the hard work people put into working out so hardcore.
@loofah I've been struggling to bulk up for ages, and I'm studying a person trainer course. It's hard for me to get to my ideal weight. It's not easy for every guy.
@SuperOzgur you are right, it's not one size fits all. I was generalizing and by no means did I mean to imply bulking up is easy for anyone. It's hard work.
@loofah yeah it's ok no worries love.
@loofah yeah but keeping fit is the main thing women need to do, they don't need to bulk up, and if they do bulk up (sometimes a thicker physique can be very desirable I will admit) the mass they are trying to put on is going to be considerably less than what a man would need to put on, if we're talking about being attractive to the opposite gender.
i see. okay then if we are talking about being the IDEAL physique for a gender, female issues are a bit different because it's both about working out (but not to the point of being too muscly because men usually find that too manly) and somehow still having large nonsagging breasts with small pink nipples and a large bubble butt, completely hairless body head to toe, etc etc (basically things that are largely genetically determined). At least most males have control over muscling up to a degree, no? I totally get that your post is just exploring the male side of the story, just thought I'd bring up the comparison since you mentioned it. Both genders have it tough in different ways when it comes to that one, and yes, if we talk about fitness alone... since bulking up is considered attractive for men, it should be known how difficult it is and how much dedication it requires.
@loofah
'working out (but not to the point of being too muscly because men usually find that too manly)'
well, a woman doesn't really need to work out: fitness is fine and if she does this, 'nonsagging breasts'
by the way, girls that keep fit but are not so obsessed that they are working down to a size 0 generally have healthy curves, i. e. large nonsagging breasts and a bubble butt. that's because the natural muscle tone actually accentuates the curves believe it or not (e. g. the pectoral muscle will push out the breasts, same for the gluteus maximus).
'completely hairless body head to toe, etc'
you can wax but men can't magically grow chest hair.
by the way I can appreciate not all girls want their man to be a greek adonysis but it certainly is necessary to pack on some defined bulk in order to be desirable to large groups of women.
'I totally get that your post is just exploring the male side of the story, just thought I'd bring up the comparison since you mentioned it.'
Ok.
Yep yep, I know that in theory, working out particular muscles can help exaggerate natural breast size. Burning off more fat can also reduce breast size though, so both play a role. Yes, that's also true, men who can't grow body hair can't do anything about it. That's like women who are flat chested. Both aren't the norm though. What I mean is, men can be hairy and it's acceptable. Waxing is painful and irritating and expensive to keep up with. I am actually gonna bankrupt myself to get laser hair removal, but that's beyond the point. Female upkeep is very meticulous, and a lot of it is expected to keep up. There's are a reason why people say men are visual creatures. Looks are emphasized more heavily on women
Dude, men don't need to work out either. But if we're talking about the ideal for each gender, both do need to work out.
If we are talking about personal attraction, I find all kinds of bodies attractive. I could care less if he's muscular. Chubby or skinny is fine too.
@loofah
'That's like women who are flat chested.'
hmm, well I don't have much experience having tits but my theory is a size 12 woman with normal healthy fat storage will probably have curves already. if not, she can exaggerate them with a little toning and stay a size 12 (without going to the extreme of body building). the girls that are flat chested tend to be skinny toerags that don't do any exercise whatsoever.
for example, how much effort do you think it takes to keep a size like this?
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'Waxing is painful and irritating and expensive to keep up with'
it's not as painful if you shave first.
'men can be hairy and it's acceptable.'
not if it's back hair we're talking about. also most men with a bare chest dislike it - speaking from experience here.
'If we are talking about personal attraction, I find all kinds of bodies attractive. I could care less if he's muscular. Chubby or skinny is fine too.'
let's be honest, as far as most women are concerned, this:
s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/.../...31978b8693.jpg
is better than this:
static.indianexpress.com/.../...124_Chubby_man.jpg
or this:
fitandstrongdads.com/.../skinny-guy.jpg
You have a lot of preconceived ideas of being a woman that are oversimplified, dude. You can argue the male side to me, but you can't argue the female side with me... well, unless you're transgendered to male I suppose, in that case I apologize. FYI, I'm also a medical student. I know how fat is stored and about body metabolism, etc. A size 12 varies from woman to woman. And shaving first before waxing... that didn't make sense. I have a lot of experience. I've shaved, naired, waxed, epilated, threaded, lasered, just haven't done electrolysis. Also, the world of makeup is a whole different level of complicated. I don't think men realize how complex it is. Don't compare average girls to 10/10 males. Also, in that photo... her genetics dictates where her fat is stored and her body type is not typical (hourglass). I could never have those proportions without plastic surgery. Her makeup is complicated as is her hair. Body hair removed. Not sure if she works out or not
@loofah
how much body hair does a woman typically have? most of it will be on the legs surely, and I say shave before wax because that way the waxing hurts less.
and girls can be attractive up to size 16 in my books.
tbh, I think most of these girls that complain they don't have curves are just too skinny.
Unless you are getting paid for it cycling your diet to bulk up is stupid. Get the calories you need to hit your goal and then adjust your work out.
Example: You want to hit the 180 lb mark. So get around 3000-3200 (maybe 3500) depending on metabolism). Do shorter but more compound workouts. I bulked in college with a work out around 45 minutes and pretty much eating heavy meats. Also you guys are in your 20s which is usually a harder time due to the metabolism you have.
@Marstalk tbh, I would bulk clean so I don't have to eat. I'd get my protein from white meats and dairy and not neglect the other nutrients. I still think mass building is tougher than fitness.
* so I don't have to cut. or if I do cut, it won't be so painful.
This is a discussion on it's own
Y'all are blowing up my feed. How do I delete this
You know you could just ask nicely not to comment or just block us.
I'm both and there's nothing anyone can do about that!
ok, cool.
Both genders have their issues. I feel I'd be better off dealing with the issues women face than what I have to endure as a man.
Lol I think both genders feel like that about the other. It's hard to really know unless you live it, really.
With more than half of these being sociological they aren't genuine disadvantages.
Did you mean physiologial or sociological? Because sociological issues would definitely class as 'genuine'. And I can only think of two that are purely physiological.
And even those two issues can be put into a sociological context.
Sociological disadvantages are only "genuine" when impressed with a regimine that is actually enforced. For instance, #8, is total garbage. You don't dance because you don't want to, not because no one forces you to, but ballet dancers of both sexes are considered to be among the strongest athletes in the world.
dancing? is this a troll?
( pointemagazine.com/news/dancers-versus-athletes/ )
Would it kill you to know what you are talking about?
Hint: Yes. Yes it would.
( bleacherreport.com/.../7 )
But you wouldn't know this. You are likely nowhere near as strong, agile, and flexible as I am.
ok lol, I've always wanted to become a better American football player.
Maybe I should learn how to twerk...
( www.slate.com/.../big_men_stretching.html )
That's old news. Football players have long done ballet, etc. Intense dancing increases agility.
But you learning how to twerk would be entertaining for your mirror maybe.
I've heard pole dancing can also be used for male bodybuilding, might give that a try:
www.pdbloggers.com/.../...103858292954079508_n.jpg
on a serious note, I'm sure ballet dancing is very difficult with the backwards bending and isometric contraction and what not. I do yoga so I can appreciate how tough this kind of thing is. point is, women don't really need to do all that if they want to get in shape. if they want to, they can though.
I personally won't say what people do and do not need to do to get into shape since there are simply so many ways to do it. Being "in shape" and being "strong enough for the task" are very different regardless.
I thought you were joking about ballet not because it isn't difficult but because I was struggling to see the relevance to my point. The point was about female vs male aesthetics and as a guy who has been 'in shape' most of his life (even during periods of time when I wasn't exercising much), I don't think it's really hard to lose body fat. Sure you can argue female metabolisms are slower - and my metabolism is particularly fast - but by and large men have larger frames (more mass even if less of it is muscle).
disciplines like ballet, yoga, gymnastics and martial arts can be extremely tough but that is because they demand significantly more than just cardiovascular activity. this is: core strength, flexibility, muscular endurance, strong joints, balance, etc.
bodybuilding is another thing altogether, while weightlifting (both powerlifting and olympic weightlifting) is the most physically demanding of all sports in my opinion...
because it requires all the aforementioned abilities (core strength, flexibility, etc.) while also requiring dynamic strength (predominantly fast twitch type I and II fibres, but also slow twitch). To maximise barbell weight, co-ordination, finely tuned technique and timing are crucial and the lifter has to keep his cool under heavy weights while keeping certain muscle groups heavily engaged (usually the posterior chain). Injury is quite common, and heavy division weightlifters will need to put weight on at some point paying attention to fat: muscle ratio (since they can't just put on fat although everything helps).
I have personal experience with number 9.
sorry to hear that man.
We are most definitely "alpha" gender here lol but thats only case with feminists and Wk nerds
Why do people make mytakes just to oppose another mytake?
lol well I wasn't thinking of any specific mytake when I wrote this. actually I was thinking of an article I read some years ago justifying the need for feminism on the basis that women are by and large a marginalised group, hence the focus needs to be more specific than just egalitarianism, the focus needs to be on women's rights. in this article, I debunk the theory that women are still a marginalised group in society after three successive waves of feminism and maybe the focus should be more generally on egalitarianism.
A mytake owner used the we can do it picture too
It's like you just used it to oppose hers
Smh
ok! well I didn't know another mytake owner used that picture. by the way, it's the editors who choose what picture goes on the frontline, not me! I just use pictures in the main text that I google searched.
These are facts. Ots a womans world now and men have fewer rights.
You are stupid. Mens rights compares little to feminism or millennia of womens subjugation.
we've had 100 years plus of feminism. lots of women's issues have been addressed. it's time for a paradigm shift from exclusively women's rights towards egalitarianism.
These aren't as bad getvovervit. This is nothing but childidh whining and nothing compared to what women went through.
what they 'went' through versus the situation today, which is far more relevant.
(also, what DID they go through? before the suffragettes, men were the one's getting conscripted, fighting wars, working 9-5 jobs, walking on the side of the street that shit was more likely to get flung at them, getting off their seat so the lady could sit down, etc., etc.).
you are childishly comparing the two. men were never property of women, or denied rights to vote.
'men were never property of women, or denied rights to vote.'
Right.
So why can't we just accept that both genders have always had it tough, and that this is more so the case in a modern world where the focus ought to be shifting towards egalitarianism for a more constructive attitude towards gender issues on the whole?
men never had it as stuff. if you think so, then you're a fool.
but tehn you have asperger's syndrome, i like how i'm not allowed to comment, and YOU get to say what is a valid opinion or not.
how would you possibly know if I had asperger's? you're allowed to comment, I haven't blocked you (or anyone for that matter).
no, but then you're a fool who says i cannot comment. why not? hahahahaha... you have asperger's, and dont' get it. good for you, dope..
when did I say you can't comment. you have your comments and I have mine - am I not allowed to voice my own opinions? as for having 'asperger's' I think I did quite well considering you began with an insult: 'you are stupid'.
cos you are a coward. simple.
ok, well that clears things up, thanks.
Lol @ the butt-hurt feminists.
very true, specially the last one.
I never experienced any of these issues. Because I won't allow it. Why do you?
This is all well said
reading the comments i am wondering if i should no longer support feminism, as many of them fail to have empathy