Agreed with all you said. If Feminism was still like back in the day, it'll have the support of almost everyone, but they've changed and just want to dominate instead to be equal, that's why feminists and feminism gets no respect from me.
If you want equality, you can't identify as a feminist, it'll be contradictory.
1. Wage gap exists. Governments don't have an excuse to lie. If they did why start the lie over 20 years ago and maintain it? Economists are still working on solving that equation since even accounting for the major aspect of hours worked there is still a gap generally related to negotiations and social beliefs along with business psychology (such as the belief that men should be managers, etc.) in the workplace.
2. 1/4 women will have been sexually assaulted (not necessarily raped, includes groping, molestations and the like in the penal code) which I don't believe myself but needs to be corrected.
LoL, I'm glad I chose to go to trade school instead. I guess for my view on this, is personally feminists like this to me are hypocrites in a way. They make it sound like men do everything wrong and we are horrible people. Well women can be just as bad also.
The main problem is the brainwashing in universities. And you're right, young women are poisoned by feminist lies that cause them be feel like victims of male oppression. All this does is help create a gender war. Why can't these miserable trolls just leave young women alone?
@Loligirl Instead of simply stating that they are real how about you prove it? I can show you endless statistical data from NON-Biased sources showing otherwise. SO when it comes to taking off the blinders... you live in an echo chamber and have nothing but regurgitated feminist created information. You need to take the blinders off my dear.
@Loligirl What blinders? What about your own? You seem to be ignoring the blatant facts that the OP pointed out.
Feminists argue that women earn 77 cents to the dollar that a man earns but don't take in to account men and womens' choice of work, how often they work, and how many vacations they choose to take. On average, women work more flexible hours with jobs that tend to pay less money. We also have a habit of getting pregnant and wanting to take more time off to spend with family than men do. Feminists argue that society forces women to make these choices. When was the last time somebody placed a gun to your head forcing you to get a degree in Arts?
Also, would you mind explaining to me what "rape culture" is? Is it a bunch of people sitting around planning rapes in secrecy like the illuminati?
Bravo for calling her out on her bullshit before me, OP. Now let's see if she replies or ignores the truth, while telling other people to "take of their blinders". Let's see if she's a hypocrite or misinformed.
@Calex I'm not going to argue that she might be a troll. I will however say that if she is, her troll game is pretty weak to not have some kind of rebuttal to our lines of questioning lol
@M_A_X Sadly people like this girl may seem like trolls but sadly these kind of shaming tactics and ignorant anti-male comments are actually common amongst feminist. They usually have an easier time simply disregarding facts presented by males by shutting them down with petty personal attacks. Usually the only attack they have when another girl points out facts to them is that I (we) have internalized misogyny or some dumb ass crap. Unfortunately for people like this, facts do not stop being facts simply because you don't agree with them. I do not expect to hear back from this person. They usually only like to throw shit at people who don't have the intelligence to duck.
@Pampered I'm not intimidated by being called names by children. Personal attacks don't go anywhere with someone like me, who act professionally in their line of questioning.
I will say though, that I'm happy that the majority is starting to see through the bullshit.
Meh yeah, when it fucks with my daily routine i will work for a change. But as of right now I find the way society ticks is full of hypocrisy. I gotta work on myself first, then perhaps tackle this monster left by these absolutely stupid organizations.
Fully agreed. Feminism nowadays is getting out of hand. I'm all for equality and abolishing forced gender roles, but I'm tired of the wage gap myth being perpetuated.
No it's not. MRAs are out of hand, rape is out of hand, dudebro culture is out of hand, the exploitation of women's bodies is out of hand. Why do you think feminism exists in the first place?
@Loligirl How are MRAs out of hand? I'm personally not an MRA, but they have actual issues. Such as the fact that men are more likely to get assaulted, more likely to commit suicide, more likely to get raped, more likely to lose custody of their child, more likely to get the short of the stick in a divorce settlement, more likely to get longer sentences compared to women, not to mention mandatory drafting. Rape culture is non existent in the first world, none of us are taught that rape is okay, the public's reaction toward's Kesha's case against Dr. Luke is proof of it all.
@Loligirl rape is out of hand? Rape is actually on a steady decline, and has been since the 90's. False accusations on the other hand, are steadily increasing. And why wouldn't it? Women in the US and the UK have just been handed a weapon which they can use to ruin any man's life, in an instant.
OP, of course she doesn't. She only spits out propaganda and will probably never even read these responses because the truth causes her to break out in hives.
aren't most third wave feminist apart of the LGBT community or like are completely obsessed with supporting them and attack you if you dont agree with them. Makes sense to me
Love that you know who our gay faggot Lord and Savior Milo is, you might be the only girl who does (and doesn't simultaneously hate him). Also, nice take.
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Agreed with all you said. If Feminism was still like back in the day, it'll have the support of almost everyone, but they've changed and just want to dominate instead to be equal, that's why feminists and feminism gets no respect from me.
If you want equality, you can't identify as a feminist, it'll be contradictory.
1. Wage gap exists. Governments don't have an excuse to lie. If they did why start the lie over 20 years ago and maintain it? Economists are still working on solving that equation since even accounting for the major aspect of hours worked there is still a gap generally related to negotiations and social beliefs along with business psychology (such as the belief that men should be managers, etc.) in the workplace.
2. 1/4 women will have been sexually assaulted (not necessarily raped, includes groping, molestations and the like in the penal code) which I don't believe myself but needs to be corrected.
That is all.
LoL, I'm glad I chose to go to trade school instead. I guess for my view on this, is personally feminists like this to me are hypocrites in a way. They make it sound like men do everything wrong and we are horrible people. Well women can be just as bad also.
You've been able to put my exact thoughts on feminism in writing very elegantly. I enjoyed reading this.
Thanks so much
You forgot about trigger warnings and safe spaces and for that I am truly triggered ! :P
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The man hate is strong in this one !!
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The main problem is the brainwashing in universities. And you're right, young women are poisoned by feminist lies that cause them be feel like victims of male oppression. All this does is help create a gender war. Why can't these miserable trolls just leave young women alone?
I love this... Wage gap and False Rape Hysteria are two of the biggest propagated feminist lies.
Wage Gap and Rape Culture do exist, take the damn blinders off.
@Loligirl Instead of simply stating that they are real how about you prove it?
I can show you endless statistical data from NON-Biased sources showing otherwise. SO when it comes to taking off the blinders... you live in an echo chamber and have nothing but regurgitated feminist created information. You need to take the blinders off my dear.
So, I will wait patiently for your reply.
@Loligirl What blinders? What about your own? You seem to be ignoring the blatant facts that the OP pointed out.
Feminists argue that women earn 77 cents to the dollar that a man earns but don't take in to account men and womens' choice of work, how often they work, and how many vacations they choose to take. On average, women work more flexible hours with jobs that tend to pay less money. We also have a habit of getting pregnant and wanting to take more time off to spend with family than men do. Feminists argue that society forces women to make these choices. When was the last time somebody placed a gun to your head forcing you to get a degree in Arts?
Also, would you mind explaining to me what "rape culture" is? Is it a bunch of people sitting around planning rapes in secrecy like the illuminati?
Bravo for calling her out on her bullshit before me, OP. Now let's see if she replies or ignores the truth, while telling other people to "take of their blinders". Let's see if she's a hypocrite or misinformed.
@M_A_X I believe Loligirl is a troll. If you look at her other opinions you'll notice it.
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1885007-men-why-are-your-ego-s-so-fragile
Just look at her reply on here.
@Calex I'm not going to argue that she might be a troll. I will however say that if she is, her troll game is pretty weak to not have some kind of rebuttal to our lines of questioning lol
@M_A_X Sadly people like this girl may seem like trolls but sadly these kind of shaming tactics and ignorant anti-male comments are actually common amongst feminist. They usually have an easier time simply disregarding facts presented by males by shutting them down with petty personal attacks. Usually the only attack they have when another girl points out facts to them is that I (we) have internalized misogyny or some dumb ass crap. Unfortunately for people like this, facts do not stop being facts simply because you don't agree with them.
I do not expect to hear back from this person. They usually only like to throw shit at people who don't have the intelligence to duck.
@Loligirl are you really that dumb and dense to believe those things actually exist? Take your own blinders off, professional victim.
@Pampered I'm not intimidated by being called names by children. Personal attacks don't go anywhere with someone like me, who act professionally in their line of questioning.
I will say though, that I'm happy that the majority is starting to see through the bullshit.
Since I do Criminology at Uni we had a "Feminist Criminology" module last year and I only showed up to one.
The one I got to I was told the Wage Gap existed and if you didn't believe it you were an "idiot" (actual words of the lecturer).
Safe to say I stood up after 30 mins. The lecturer asked me what I was doing, I ignored her a left the room.
Meh yeah, when it fucks with my daily routine i will work for a change. But as of right now I find the way society ticks is full of hypocrisy. I gotta work on myself first, then perhaps tackle this monster left by these absolutely stupid organizations.
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It's hard for me to appreciate a "movement" which hates the entire male gender. That's like expecting African-American to appreciate the Ku Klux Klan.
Fully agreed. Feminism nowadays is getting out of hand. I'm all for equality and abolishing forced gender roles, but I'm tired of the wage gap myth being perpetuated.
No it's not. MRAs are out of hand, rape is out of hand, dudebro culture is out of hand, the exploitation of women's bodies is out of hand. Why do you think feminism exists in the first place?
@Loligirl How are MRAs out of hand? I'm personally not an MRA, but they have actual issues. Such as the fact that men are more likely to get assaulted, more likely to commit suicide, more likely to get raped, more likely to lose custody of their child, more likely to get the short of the stick in a divorce settlement, more likely to get longer sentences compared to women, not to mention mandatory drafting. Rape culture is non existent in the first world, none of us are taught that rape is okay, the public's reaction toward's Kesha's case against Dr. Luke is proof of it all.
@Loligirl rape is out of hand? Rape is actually on a steady decline, and has been since the 90's. False accusations on the other hand, are steadily increasing. And why wouldn't it? Women in the US and the UK have just been handed a weapon which they can use to ruin any man's life, in an instant.
Do you even know what MRA's do?
OP, of course she doesn't. She only spits out propaganda and will probably never even read these responses because the truth causes her to break out in hives.
Well said. It's really frustrating to have a discussion with people who are committed to being victims. Not all feminist of course.
Thank you!
"The women reporting these incidents are on average lesbians..."
Where is your support for this statement?
Just go to any feminist meet up and you'll have your evidence right there.
In this case, I am going to require more than just anecdotal evidence.
Final-fucking-ly!
Someone actually classified feminazism correctly rather than just blaming it on feminism as a whole
I just got done saying that to someone else and they said I'm just jealous
Really. This has been the trend for a few years now. It's even been on news sites and such.
aren't most third wave feminist apart of the LGBT community or like are completely obsessed with supporting them and attack you if you dont agree with them. Makes sense to me
"Every thing wrong with third wave Feminism"
This could easily be a 4 year college course.
Love that you know who our gay faggot Lord and Savior Milo is, you might be the only girl who does (and doesn't simultaneously hate him). Also, nice take.
He's my king <3 lol xx what's not to love about him? Thank you!
He's also of course my daddy haha
"Feminism is effectively scaring men away from women"
yup.