Why Feminism is Bad

[esotericstory]

Femininity

Its name is derived from feminine but there's nothing feminine about it. It preaches freedom for women up to the point of excess. When humans have total freedom they are subjected to only their instincts and urges. Femininity is adapted to women's monthly and life cycle alike unlike the total freedom preached by feminism. Femininity is the reason that tempers women's urges, just like masculinity is adapted to the masculine daily cycle and life cycle and tempers men's urges with reason.

Carreerism

Feminism has become a tool used by the market to pull women into the corporate hierarchy. Its not healthy preaching about equality all the time and then telling women to go enter the merciless corporate pecking order. When too many women compete with men for too many jobs some of that competitiveness will flow over into social life and men and women will start to compete for all sorts of things without feminism there would be no competition for. The corporate world is not attuned to women's monthly and life cycle, nor is it attuned to men's daily and life cycle. In an ideal world neither men nor women should have to enter this ruthless and artificial hierarchy.

Supermoms

Feminism has sold the super mom ideal to women like hot buns. Women now believe it is perfectly possible for them to get up in the morning, drop the kids off at a daycare center, go to work, come back, pick up the kids, go home, cook, do the household etc. No, it is not perfectly possible, it is masochism, it is madness.

[Diana7]

I hate feminism and wish men and women could live in harmony again like in the old days but the economy doesn’t permit it and the guys I meet seem to want career women. Traditionalism is dead amongst many millennials sadly.

[7Roses]

Like the old days like when women couldn't vote and domestic abuse was accepted. I hope you find that in your life

[Diana7]

@7Roses DO you know that most men could not vote in fact? Only a small percentage of wealthy landowners could vote and in those days it was considered that a man voted on behalf of his household as a family unit? Women got the vote maybe one to two years after all men got the vote? But you have only heard feminist propaganda. And you think it was commonplace that’s domestic violence took place in every household? It isn’t cruelly oppressive that men were conscripted to fight and die in wars to protect women and children or work once the most dangerous conditions imaginable down the mines etc. So she couldt afford a quality of life to take care of her children. Most women in those times saw it as a great luxury to escape the drudgery and servitude of the workplace. I’m sure there was a vast conspiracy to keep women down when the liberties women enjoy now have more to do with the technological innovations pioneered by men than any feminist movement: the washing machine, the pill, the car

[Diana7]

@7Roses don’t believe everything you hear. The historical past was more complex than feminist ideologies would have you believe.

[Ellie-V]

So you think it’s cool that only the rich, white folk got to have a say in politics? You think it’s okay that men got to vote first before even considering that a woman’s input was valuable?
Honey... you have issues👀
And yes, in a way, being a housewife was a luxury COMPARED to being in the workplace but have you seriously considered why that was?
Working conditions were SHIT. Back then, man, woman, or CHILD— if you were working, there would be a good chance that you’d come back home with a body part missing. Simply because safety laws weren’t actually regulated until 1970 sweetheart. And by that time, gender roles and all that bullshit was already set in stone.
Options were, you’re either a work mule at work or a work mule at home. Neither of those are fantastic options, to a lot of women the housewife thing was the lesser of two evils.
So don’t paint traditionalism like it was some golden age of romance because that is no where near true.

[7Roses]

@Diana7 I am talking about my parents parents upbringings. Especially my father who grew up in a household where His mother was beaten often and always in front of them. I do not think its a healthy way to grow up seeing your mother beaten up by your father like that. You truly have no credibility iwhen you're making these assumptions and clearly are bias. Yes the landowners thing is true but then times moved on and all men could vote. You ignore that. And women would still not be able to vote if they didn't ask for it. there was no plan to eventually allow women to vote.. The government is at big fault in america where they put chemicals in the water and food and genetically modify crops. They're affecting your nations people especially the youth. So it is no shock to me that america is so angry and at odds against each other. No other developed nation has so much in fighting. I just believe that there are more important things to be angry at right now.

[Diana7]

@7Roses well you can’t take your personal experience and make it political. Just because this was your experience does not mean it was ubiquitous. I came from a traditional home and my father never laid a finger on my mother. And they have been together for over forty years very happily. Today the divorce rate is over 50% because we have tampered with our gender identity so much. Anyway it is pretty ambiguous to say a woman is free when she is subject to every directive of her employer and oppressed if she is obedient to her potentially loving husband who actually cares for her beyond making her a wage slave for profit. The entire logic of feminism is inherently flawed and Orwellian. Men gave up their lives for women and children in the titanic. In the costa Concordia a few years ago, they trampled them to get a lifeboat. That is the endgame of these liberal feminist policies in society where there is no more distinction between a man and a woman. It is survival of the fittest.

[Shezadi]

I love your comment, excellent comment and very true and accurate. I personally accepted that men and women are different. That competition needs to end. I also believe a mother and a father can never be equal. There is a saying, "you can't judge a fish for not being able to climb." Men and women have different abilities, talents and roles. They have different places in the family. Feminism is nonsense. It doesn't do anything about real life serious issues, it just talks about superficial problems. If there is a person starving, feminism will do nothing about it. Feminism is no longer about serious causes but it is more about moaning over petty things.

[7Roses]

how can you say personal experience can't have an affect on your idea and politics. I wouldn't agree with calling feminism politics though. Its sad that people such as yourself think women should be treated as second class citizens.

[7Roses]

@Diana Again if you are so inclined to think this way, then I think that there are bigger problems such as the chemicals and hormones that are put into americas water and food supply that are making you into a bunch of freaks and Trannys.

[Kelly6]

Thank you honey

[Diana7]

@7Roses so it is second class TO be protected in times of war rather than made to fight and die or to be put first in the event of a catastrophic ship wreck? That is a strange twisted logic.

[Shezadi]

diana
I am so confused why are people attacking you?
like you have the right to hate feminism, are people forcing to like feminism, like terrorists force people to like their religion? You typed such a sweet comment, you spoke your mind, poured your heart out, and people are attacking you as if you have committed a crime. You are entitled to your opinion and please ignore the haters. let them bark as much as they want to. silence is the best answer to some people. I hate feminism because it is doesn't focus on serious issues, it doesn't do anything practically, it is just about moaning about everyday shit, and women also don't get along with each other that's when feminism fails. My mother almost got me murdered by my dad because of everyday fights, she was screaming at my face, my shitty dad tried to murder me and I called the police. I hate my mom and feminism cannot do anything about me, what about mother-in-laws, daughter-in-laws, sister-inlaws, step mothers, step sisters

[Louis_Liam]

Omg thank you. I've been trying to explain to people that women have been protected by men for as long as human kind has been around. Also ofc women arnt going to have the vote when society can't afford that. In ancient times women had to have men inorder to survive because we didint have the technology we have today. Its not that men hated women its that women were protected and men were given voting rights because they risked there fucking lives. There is historical reasons, ancient romans wernt going "My housewife needs the vote" while people are dying from the plague and battles. Gold bless you diana, im not sure if i got my point across as i am fucked on ADHD drugs, Thank you for giving me hope and helping me realize that logical females really do exist. (Once again appoligie for the spelling errors, Strange How a female aka my mom is able to force me into taking stimulants) Dont really know where im going with this, thank you.😊

[Secretgardenblood]

Good take

[englisc]

100%. Most people will be too dumb to understand this unfortunately.

[Vegeta01]

Feminism can kiss my ass

[Shezadi]

hahahahahahaha

[BlondeGirl_]

First of all to all the idiots who dont mean what feminism is: the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

Nowadays people seem to think feminism means being a whining, man-hating asshole. THAT IS NOT FEMINISM. FEMINISTS AREN'T ANTI-MAN. ANYONE SAYING THEY'RE A FEMINIST BUT THEY HATE MEN, isn't A FEMINIST.

You can't hate something because a small percentage that gets all the attention acts like idiots. Feminists want women and men to be equal. They shouldn't want women to be above men. So if you want that too, you're basically a feminist, like it or not. If you say you're against feminism you're basically a sexist because that would mean you don't want men and women to have the same rights. If you are against the whiney man-hating idiots who SAY they're feminists, you are against people called feminazi's, not against feminists.

And second, I think this take doesn't make any sense. To me, it's basically saying women shouldn't work and just stay home and take care of the kids. What the hell do you care? You aren't even a woman. You clearly also don't get the difference between feminism and "feminazism".

by the way it's probably called feminism because it was made for women, and women are feminine.

Just stop. You're not making any freaking sense.

[x4v13r]

feminism is the dumbest shit i ever heard of. they base all their arguments on false statistics then go around whining that they wish they were men. the worst part is they get paid by george soros and other elitists to do it.

[BlondeGirl_]

@x4v13r yea well i didn't say anythng about modern feminism but i think yoyu shouldn't bash something completely just because there's some whiney idiots. I do think those whiney idiots sometimes (if not often) just look for reasons to be angry and to want something thats not even neccessary.

[x4v13r]

you are completely right, they are just looking for something to whine about. women already have equal rights, what the hell do these bitches want? they want all the benefits of being a man, but are unwilling to sacrifice all the benefits of being a woman. western women are the most spoiled people in the world and it shows.

[RadagastTheBrown]

"First of all to all the idiots who dont mean what feminism is: the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. "

Where is equality mentioned in the term feminism? Any person including equality in a definition of feminism is tempering it.

Thanks to feminism, female emergency responders don't have to maintain the same physical standards as their male counterparts. Regardless of whether you're a man, woman, dog, or goat - I expect you to be capable of doing the job. That means meeting the same standards as everybody else.

Have you ever heard of a woman being outright barred from a job because of her gender? I have been - twice. And a third time I had to sign a form declaring my capabilities when my female coworkers with the same job title did not.

When's the last time you were threatened with sexual mutilation? That happens regularly to male characters in pop culture.

[x4v13r]

@RadagastTheBrown that's the line all feminists use, "it's about equality." men and women ARE NOT EQUAL! men are better at certain things and women are better at others.

[BlondeGirl_]

@RadagastTheBrown women and men are physically different. Im sure you know that. Men are generally stronger than women. Im sure that those women can get the job done :)) and that other stuff you listed yea ok that sucks i agree that has to change.

[A-man-22]

No body is getting what Feminism currently is right

ORIGINALLY: it was for the fairness of rights for women
E. g right to vote
(Big note here, it doesn't care about men just making women's rights similar to men's in my definition that's not equality that called women's equality, similar name different meaning)

NOWADAYS: it's lost its way and instead of thinking, we should help womens rights to be as good as guys, they think how can we weaken men's rights so that we are even.

I feel it's served its purpose in getting women the serious rights they lacked.
But now it deals with menial tasks.

This isn't even taking into account the fact that they just plain ignore things like, divorce laws, prison time, suicide rates and misandristy. Which are all in favour of them.

In conclusion, Feminism is there to help women get better rights or to remove men's rights to make it even, while ignoring women's privalage because they just don't care.

Why would you remove your own rights? Because you wanted to be fair? Nah you can be equals and have way better rights than others, right?

[BrittBratt2416]

The concept of feminism is not bad, the goal was to give women their rights and to able to work along side men and be able to do simple things like voting, opening a bank account etc. What's turned feminism bad today is the radicals who have taken it to a whole new level of not being equal to man but being better than man. If it would have just stayed women being able to work with men and having the right to vote, then things wouldn't be as terrible as it is today. As they say, one bad apple usually spoils the rest.

[esotericstory]

Its too excessive. Its ruined women. They are all sour now, no longer sweet.

[BrittBratt2416]

The issue that most men have with feminism is when the extremes tell them that they are bad for being a male and having a penis- that's the issue and should be the main issue. Not women having rights, if women having rights is the issue.. then you can see such thing still exists.

[esotericstory]

Equality is a dead religion.

[BrittBratt2416]

It hasn't ruined all women cause not all women are feminist, they just like the concept of it. I'm not feminist but I do believe everyone should be treated with respect.

[esotericstory]

I can accept that, but I still want to be a man, kiss girls, spank their butts, etc.

[BrittBratt2416]

okay so whats the issue here, is the extremes who have made feminism bad or is that women have rights? Make it clear.

[esotericstory]

I've written an entire mytake about it.

[TomasLyy]

i love how this guy literally just said all women are "sour", and no longer "sweet" r/niceguys

[Alfa_Male]

People are sooooo retarded that Einstein was right about it. Feminism is only supporting women's rights. Even no feminists hate men, its still an issiue. Because societ only give importance to one gender and ignore another. Feminism is sexism, like racism.
Feminists are tend to be man haters, because of the ideology itself. Not any other things. Claiming that women have problems while ignore the men problems is itself a fascism. This make this world worser and worser.

[Shezadi]

britt sister, the thing is women also hurt each other, like my mom hurts me, because of her my dad was about to murder me yesterday, and I called the police, who came within 10 minutes and spoke to us for half an hour

[Shezadi]

@Alfa_Male i agree what if a woman is another woman's enemy
in hindi and urdu, there is a saying, "a woman is another woman's enemy."
I also think feminism is overrated
we don't need feminism
we have the law to stop crimes

[Shezadi]

britt I think you should avoid vulgar words in your words

[Alfa_Male]

@Shezadi Thank you for not being a feminist. We need equality and also support men's rights. The better choice is meninism. Because men have lots issues as well. And we never talk about men's issues since the history.

[BrittBratt2416]

@Shezadi what are you talking about? I didn't say anything vulgar.

[NicolaD]

I fully support anyone being who they are and who they wish to be and I don't call that by any name or title. I was brought up in a somewhat unenlightened time when women were told they had their place, something my mother and grandmother accepted because that was the way it was. In the sixties and seventies when I was in my teens and twenties and with the advent of better protection, I believe we started to take more control of our bodies and our lives. All that said, I love being treated as a woman, having doors opened for me etc and in some ways I feel sorry for men although I should point out that my husband and I are equals.

[esotericstory]

The whole problem of the modern world is that everybody is being told that they dont have a place or need one. The times were people were told that they had a place and what it was were more wholesome and healthy than today's world. People are so stressed all the time they dont have a proper life trajectory.

[NicolaD]

Well said

[dantetheexplorer]

" The corporate world is not attuned to women's monthly and life cycle, nor is it attuned to men's daily and life cycle. "

The corporate world is about profit. And you don't have to have a penis or vagina to make a profit.

Seriously? This is what passes for "Why Feminism Is Bad?" nowadays?

If the above is the conclusion drawn by the Asker from his observation of the world, I can only surmise that they are no longer teaching critical thinking in schools like they used to.

What nugget of wisdom will we get next?
"Junk food is not healthy for you."
"Crime is bad for the community."
"When a stranger breaks into your house, bad things might happen."

I can't wait for more such world-shattering observations by the Asker.
In fact, I'm practically at the edge of my seat.

[CuChullan]

As long as men perceive feminism to be a threat to the status quo then we'll have takes and questions like this.
Real feminism poses no threat to men, in fact it will go a long way to take the strait jacket men live in off them. It will benefit society and unite people as human beings.

[esotericstory]

Well you can argue what real feminism is until the end of time, arguing is just that, arguing.

[RolandCuthbert]

The problem is certain men at GaG feel their masculinity from their perceived relationship with women. So if women are no longer in the home, they feel less powerful. If she is not in a position where she is subservient, then they are not in a position of command.

They don't have a definition masculinity that is rooted in simply being a man.

[Temporal_Ice]

You're largely missing the point of feminism, which is for equality.

No one is pushing a women to be strictly a career woman. Its advocating for choice. And when you were talking about careers, you were implying that men should be the only ones working.

That's sexist both ways.

[esotericstory]

" you were implying that men should be the only ones working. " I literally said neither men or women should have to enter the corporate hierarchy, read the actual mytake which you didn't read.

[Temporal_Ice]

I did read your take, I just merely came to that conclusion based on what you said. And if you continue to deny that I didn't read it then you are wrong.

[esotericstory]

You read one thing and understand another. I am not missing the point of feminism, which equality, I have ignored equality because not even a fool believes this can be achieved. Egalitarianism is a 200 year old ideology as is feminism my friend. You are with your head in a time thats long since gone.

[Kolemma]

I don't think you're understanding what feminism means. Feminism isn't saying women are better than men or that men are horrible. Feminism is about equality. The shit about not killing women in video games is bs, that's not actually feminism. Feminism is about NOT having it like it was were women had no rights whatsoever and couldn't vote. Yes, it is in men's nature to protect women but that doesn't mean that they can RULE over them. People who think that men rule over women are fucking idiots. Maybe try knowing what feminism TRULY is before attacking it on false pretenses.

[JazzHands]

Ok, lets all agree that the sjws that are telling all men to go to hell are the wrong ones.
Now, the reason why feminism is important is because it allowed women to be independent. The "good old days" that many people talk about were the days when many women were getting abused or raped by their husbands, and the only reason why they didn't divorce because it wasn't acceptable back in the day. Many women of today like independence because they don't want to be put into situations like that. Plus, believe it or not, women like doing many other things than just staying home, taking care of kids and cooking 😲.

[1truekhaleesi]

I really don't give a shit that you don't like women in the work force. I intend to have a career and make good money as an Assistant Surgeon. Oh yeah I don't plan on having kids.

[Jersey2]

I see a lot of people say they do not want children. I have kids and most of everything else including career, money and more. But my children are the best part of my life. People would die for their children. I honestly believe that people are missing out of a huge part of life. Before you dismiss it, you might want to find out what women who thought as you do, think after they have had children. It might be interesting reading.

[1truekhaleesi]

@Jersey2 hahahahaahhahahahahahahaha fuck no.

[1truekhaleesi]

@Jersey2 that's great you like your kids, but that's not the life I want, so I highly recommend you stop forcing your ideals on me. I never told you to get rid of your kids, just something to consider.

[Jersey2]

Wow. Snowflake or just plain flake? Yes, perhaps it is best if you do not become a mother, you are too childish.

[1truekhaleesi]

@Jersey2 now that I turned the tables and told you that I never tried to force my decision on you, you're upset? You think I shouldn't have kids? Good you're getting the idea.
Here's a good article that breaks down exactly why what you said was rude and downright nasty.
www.google.com/.../

[ZhiHana]

Feminism isn't bad. Extreme feminism is. Believing women are better than men is just as bad as believing men are better than women. Is it that hard to understand?

[esotericstory]

There is no moderate feminism.

[Benedek38]

Show me all them moderate, nice feminists who don't want to bite my head off and call me a sexist, and are willing to call out bad elements of feminism, and fight for equality in ALL areas, or allow others to do it.

I am waiting. I've been waiting a while.

[Justcallmealy]

@Benedek38 #Whyismisoynybad #Whyismachismbad lol

[Benedek38]

@Justcallmealy Your point being?

[Justcallmealy]

@Benedek38 My point being: it's what this thread seems to be about

[Benedek38]

@Justcallmealy Then maybe you are projecting. I only asked for example of feminists who represent feminism and actually fulfill the rather minimalistic requirements I listed. And yet not only are you not helping me, you are actually proving the stereotype.

[Alfa_Male]

All feminists are man haters, majority of them like that. They made men miserable. So shut up your mouth. Feminism is fascism. We have to support men's rights and solve men's issues.

[Justcallmealy]

@Alfa_Male Or they just hate the kinda guy you are lol

[Alfa_Male]

@Justcallmealy You don't even know me. You are doing ad hominem. I am a good man. İf you hate me, you are a fascist. Yes feminists hate guys like me. Because I support men's rights and I want equality between genders. No one likes feminists. Because feminists are fascist and man haters.

[ZhiHana]

@Alfa_Male Altså nå synes jeg du har gått litt over streken her. Synd at kona di forlot deg for en ny mann. Jeg ville gjort det samme. Kom deg ut av kjelleren.

[BlueWalker]

It's amazing someone from the 14th century can work a phone or computer to make this post.

[esotericstory]

This is a beautiful compliment actually, thank you very much. I am deep into classical thinking.

[BlueWalker]

And to be clear:

Women should have the right to do whatever the f*ck they want to do in life and be paid and appreciated the same as any man in whatever a woman so chooses. I am about freedom of choice and support any woman with whatever she feels fit to do with her own life. Anything other than that is trying to put women in a box. Get out of the stone age.

[BlueWalker]

Just saw your reply. Yeah, Ignorance is bliss. 🙄

[esotericstory]

You sound like you are not susceptible to logic. I never actually stated that women should not do something. One must simply remain within the bounds of nature if one wants to have a good life. Humanity is subject to nature, not the other way around. Thats the nucleus of classical thinking.

[BlueWalker]

😴😴😴

[Alfa_Male]

Feminism is not bad, you should chech the dictionary meaning, bad feminists are not feminists, they are feminazi :D :D ahahaha I just joked. Feminists are retarded. Feminism is sexist and we should ban feminism and femdom. Because its simply hate towards men.

[esotericstory]

Dictionary meaning =/= ideology.

[Alfa_Male]

İf a person write a word's meanin and says its a good thing, then kill people in the name of this word/ideology. Would you say that its normal because dictionary says that? I can not imagine men have such a low Iq social intelligence. Women practice femdom and made men slaves with the name of feminism. You are a slave if you support feminism.

[Alfa_Male]

Are you feminist or anti feminist. I didn't understand. You talk different to every people. :D

[member53466763]

damn really cool point of view

lol

[ilikecherries]

Feminism is not about the thought of women being better than men. It's about political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes.

People who think any gender is better than another one are simply sexist. That goes for women as well.

The main thought of feminism is that all genders should be treated equally. Not more, not less.

I feel like many men just can't deal with having a woman competing against them.

[Shezadi]

men and women are different, they are not equal. Even in a family, all members are not equal, For example, almost every religion gives mothers a higher status than fathers. I am proud to be a woman, why should I compete with men, I have no desire to be like men.
Even in sports, men compete with men, women compete with women.
Plus, why should men accept rebellious women when they can have angelic and sweet women.

[Anpu23]

Feminism is not now, nor has it ever been a movement of equity, it is a supremacy movement hiding behind a dictionary definition of acceptance.

[DJZest]

That's a dumb thing to say, because men outcompete women in virtually every socio-economic aspect - as seen in earnings.

And this is in a gyno-centric world, where virtually every socio-economic and social guidelines are massively biased towards women's benefits.

Why do you think women have big butts? It's because it's a natural, built-in storage for nurturing and supporting a family/household. I mean, it's obvious.

[Alfa_Male]

Feminism is about hating men and female surpremacy. İf you support equality between genders, you should be meninist. Meninism is simply a movement which supports men's rights and equality between genders.

[TayTay21]

I do not believe in feminism because it's just another bunch of professional activists trying to make money. All these groups like Environmental Defense Fund and Southern Poverty Law Center *claim* to be crusaders for justice or whatever when they're just out for money.

[Anonymous]

Oh look another weak little worm of a man who's deathly afraid of strong women. On G@G? What a s u r p r i s e

[Diana7]

WHY do you feel free when subject to every whim of your employer and a slave if you were to obey a Man you claim to love? ITs pretty ambiguous. THe average family is poorer following fifty years of feminist ideology now. George Orwell said the future is a human boot stamping on a face forever. Thanks to feminism we are closer to that reality. Instead of men and women working as a team they are divided and shackled and more and more enslaved to central banks. It is a fallacy to say this is strength and freedom. You’re a fool. The biggest slaves believe they are free while they make the 1% even richer.

[Opinion Owner]

@Diana7 wtf are you talking about lol I'm not a slave to my employer. I love my job and I love what I do. I love my husband. I dont obey him... he's my husband not a prison warden. And frankly, I don't really care about being rich or whatever the hell you were trying to get at there. I have a career and a job I love and a family I love. If anyone has some skewed fucked up way of seeing the world it's you and your yammering lol

[Alfa_Male]

@Diana7 Feminism is man hating and women supremacy. Anyone who support this is a sexist man hater.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male no. Just no. You can want equality for women without hating men. It's not hard lol

[Alfa_Male]

I don't want equality for women, for god's sake. Shut up your mouth. I want to support equalty for men and men's rights. I am a meninist. Feminism is only belong to garbage. You are a man hating fascist.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male meninism started as a joke and us not real. Supporting the supremacy of either gender is moronic and ridiculous. You sound very afraid of strong women. Sniveling worms like you only give us more power... the very thing you so desperately want to keep from us. You are the cause of the very thing you despise and it's hilarious

[Alfa_Male]

You women became so fascist in today's society. Don't expect respect from men while you lying and manipulating men like that. Feminism is women supremacy itself. İf you support this, it means you are a fascist dog. I don't afraid strong women, weak women. I just don't like feminists. Feminism is the problem. I have no problem with women. Meninism is not a joke. Meninism is a movement which supports men's rights and equality between genders. İf you don't know this check your informations. Don't be such a ignorant.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male you literally sound like a feminist but a man. You are an idiot and a blatant hypocrite. You use the same hyperboles and terminologies like fascist just like radical feminists do. You are a joke.

[Alfa_Male]

I am not a feminist you facsist retarded. I hate feminism and feminists. You don't know what I am talking about. Men's have issues and we have to fix that. Men need to achieve equality between genders. Men have extremely problems, 1000 times greater and higher problems than women. So shut up your mouth you feminist dog. You probably hate all men, and you had daddy issues. Thats the reason you are against men's rights and equality between genders. Otherwise you would be definitely a meninist. Meninism is not a thing that people should afraid. No one should afraid of meninism. Meninism is for men and meninism is for everyone. Don't be a man hating, sexist retarded.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male yeah you sound just like a radical feminist lol the cognitive dissonance here is mind boggling.

[Alfa_Male]

No, I am not a feminist, I am a meninist. And I think you are a meninist too. And you should be a meninist. İts the only way we can achieve equality between genders. Meninism is a great ideology for a healthy and a equal society. So you should not be against meninism. Meninism is the thing we should support. Because society need balance.
Your comment is comptely man hating and misandrist. Thats the reason you are feminist. Feminists are man haters and its not a new thing. Everyone already know this. You probably have daddy issues thats why you hate all men.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male lol I'm not gonna be a meninist or a feminist because of people like you. You're just like a radical feminist. You spew all the same talking points lol I dont hate men and my father and I get along great. Please explain to me what I said that was misandrist. Is disagreeing with a man equal to man hating now? Hahaha

[Alfa_Male]

"Oh look another weak little worm of a man who's deathly afraid of strong women" This is the reason you are a man hater. You support feminism and you don't support men's rights. You just manipulate things. No one afraid of women. You are against when someone says "feminism is bad". So you are a feminist and thats the reason you are a man hater and sexist. Before calling me something and doing ad hominem, look at yourself. You are not a good person. You are a bad person. Because you hate men. You are sexist. You don't even care men's issues. You just focus on women's problems and then expect us what? You see men as slaves and submissives. This will never happen. Men are men, men should be meninists and manly. Don't hate us. We are equal with women. Respect us.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male I do respect men... just not men like you. Men who think they know what's best for women and make all kinds of crazy assumptions and claim to hate radical feminists but act just like them but in the name of men. I dont hate men but I'm not a fan of men like you. A little worm who is terrified of strong women.

[Alfa_Male]

You just love slave and submisive men. Thats the reason you don't like real men. You are a fascist and man hater. No one afraid or hate women. This is just your manipulation to spread your hateful movement (feminism) against men. You feminists will never be successful. Men and women are equal. You feminists should accept that. Meninism is the equality for both genders. So you should be meninist if you like men and if you support equality.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male if men and women are equal what's the point of meninisim? can't even keep your shit straight. What a s u r p r i s e

[Alfa_Male]

İf you are against meninism , you don't want equality. You just afraid of strong real, healthy men. You see men as slaves. Because you hate men. İf you want to support equality, support men's rights and fight for equality. Be a meninist.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male you didn't answer my question lol you just keep repeating the same stupid shit. Kinda like a radical feminist lol

[Alfa_Male]

I hate feminism itself. Radical feminism, feminism they are all same shit. I am against sexism and female supremacy. So thats why I support equality between genders. İf you support equality, just be a meninist. Thats it. :) Meninism is for men , meninism is for everyone. İts just equality.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male that's literally how feminists describe feminisim...

[Alfa_Male]

You confused. Check your informations. You don't know what meninism is. Meninism is an ideology who fight discrimination against males. This discriminaton comes mostly feminists. So meninism is fighting against feminism too. Thats why meninism is equality.
Men need to support their rights for achive equality. So I think you are definitely a meninist. Cuz you support equality. Support men's rights and equality between genders.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male yeah that's literally what feminists say. That's literally how they describe feminism except it addresses women instead of men.

[Alfa_Male]

You are a man hater.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male no I'm not lol you just dont have an argument and calling me a man hater is all you can think to do lol

[CasaNorba]

would you mind explaining how a woman who constantly bitches about how "oppressed and underpaid" she is makes her STRONG?

[Opinion Owner]

@CasaNorba it's called standing up for yourself. Men like y'all dont like it when women call out indescrepincies between the sexes and when men are being total pigs. y'all dont want us in charge or in power. But we dont really give a shit if you like it or not.

[CasaNorba]

ok you just proof my point.

with great powers comes great responsibility therefore you must work hard to earn it. bitching and whining about your made believe problem isn't gonna get you anywhere. something you modern women, especially feminists have a tough time comprehending.

also offending people at the start by calling them "weak little worm of a man who's deathly afraid of strong women." all he disagree with your view pretty much explains that you are a person who lack maturity and therefore cannot be trusted in power.

[Vegeta01]

@Alfa_Male Come on man it's 2018 no one cares about feminists or feminism. Grow up and stop wasting your time talking to trash. Just go Mgtow it's that simple.

[Alfa_Male]

@Vegeta01 İf you think like that you are a moron. Mgtow is needed but mgtow will not solve all the things. İts just the part of the solution and thats it. Men have to be meninist. Don't you realize feminists made men findom and femdom addictive slave and submissives. You don't realize anything. Men became slave to the women. Men should do something as soon as possible. Women became so rude, fascist and merciless. You are a sleeping sheep.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male and you're a raving lunatic dumbass perma-virgin bitter about being an incel. Such an Insecure little worm 😂

[Alfa_Male]

Shut up your mouth. You are a slave of men. :D :D

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male I thought you said men were slaves of women? Which is it, worm?

[Alfa_Male]

I am only talking about you. You are submissive and slave of men. :D :D

[Alfa_Male]

You can't resist to urge serving a man like a retarded feminist and being a slave who obey men. :D

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male whered this come from lol? Did I hit a nerve calling you a perma-virgin? I think I did 😂 I'm not a slave to anyone. Especially little worms like you. You barely qualify as human in my eyes. I respect admirable men. Which you are not

[Alfa_Male]

I respect women who support equality and who support men's rights. Not like man hating feminist women like you. You are just a worthless slave to the men. Most feminists have daddy issues. Thats why they have urge to become submissive to the men. :D And I think you are one of them. I am sure you are a slave of men. :D hahahah idiot feminist. :D

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male I'm not even a feminist I've said that like a thousand times 😂 you're just asshurt that I called you out for being a weak and pathetic excuse of a person. Real men dont whine nearly as much as you do.

[Alfa_Male]

İf you are not a feminist , why are you making a feminist propaganda then? You are the only pathetic slave in this topic. And of course you know this. You anonymous coward feminist slave. :D

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male how am I spreading feminist propaganda? Because I told you you're a pathetic worm? You are. That doesn't mean all men are. My dad, my husband, my friends... they're all incredible amazing men who are strong and respectable admirable. Things you will never be because you're a whiny incel "meninist". You complain and talk just like a feminist. You're the very thing you despise so much. Just admit you hate women because no one will sleep with you and cry yourself to sleep.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male "you are so prejudice and ignorant. I don't hate women, its just your manipulation."

Ok but you literally did the same thing by saying I hate men.

"I told you I only hate feminists like you."

And I told you I'm not a feminist. Idiot.

"I dated and sleeped with enough women. Probably more than most men."

Yeah no. You can't even make a complete sentence. I'm starting to think you're actually mentally challenged.

"You do manipulations and ad hominem. İt shows you are a feminist"

You're literally doing all of that. You're literally just a reverse feminist.

"Because mostly feminists do things like that. And you are doing this. You are worthless."

You. Are. Doing. Literally. All. Of. This. You. Fucking. Idiot. Worm.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male no you're just a fuckin hypocrite subhuman. 😂 and I think you know it

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male you can't even address any of my points or your own contradictions. Pathetic worm

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male still didn't prove me wrong lol calling me a slave literally does nothing because it's just not true. And it's especially ineffective when previously you said men are slaves to women. But you're not gonna address that are you, worm?

[Alfa_Male]

"men are slaves to women." I didn't say that. Where did I say that? I said feminists want that. And the society became like that. I didn't say I am a slave of women. There are feminist men slaves to women. I don't reject this. But I am only talking about you now. And you are submissive to men.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male except I'm not and there's nothing to indicate that I am. You're just trying to make yourself feel better because you're terrified of strong women

[Alfa_Male]

This is your feminist propaganda.

[Alfa_Male]

And its ridicilous.

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male you're deflecting again and it's still pathetic 😂 slink away little worm! Slink away

[Opinion Owner]

@Alfa_Male aww am I makin the worm squirm with my female opinion? Poor little worm

[Vegeta01]

@Alfa_Male And you are a moron. Can't believe I supported you previously. Beta males like you deserve to be treated like slaves. Man up you pussy. Meninist is as bad as feminist. Get a life faggot. Every person on this thread is retarded. That includes you "Alfa Male"(more like Beta Male) and the anonymous bitch who started all this.

[CasaNorba]

@Vegeta01 you know they do say the term "alpha male" was created by both women and maginas alike to be used a shaming tactic and an obsolete method of control against men they disapprove of in any way.

so if a guy is willing to go as far as calling himself an "alpha male" let along use it as a screenname then he is basically stepping on his own land mine

[CasaNorba]

@Alfa_Male after watching The Red Pill movies a lot of us have concluded that you meninists and MRAs are nothing but feminists punching bags so i disagree with you on that fact the mgtow is not gonna solve all the problems as clearly we have hit feminists countless of times where it really hurts them the most and the fact that they hate us far more than both meninists and MRAs combined says enough

[Opinion Owner]

@CasaNorba dude why are you throwing shade at me? I'm just fucking around with this dumbass because its entertaining. Feminism and meninisim are equally unnceccesary

[Lish89]

Omg.. get this guy a waaaburger and some french cries! Like holy fuck buddy. CHILL OUT!

[CasaNorba]

@Lish89 hopefully you're not referring to me as all I did was state my opinion

@OpinionOwner dude my last two comments weren't even aiming at you so please stop playing the victim card already

[Lish89]

@CasaNorba
No it's for Alfa make up there lol.

[CasaNorba]

@Lish89 ok, "alfa make up" otfrl!

[Opinion Owner]

@CasaNorba "throwing the victim card already" lol bitch where? I just asked a goddamn question I'm not saying you're attacking me or anything chill.

[RadagastTheBrown]

A "radical feminist" is someone influenced by feminism and nothing else, ie simply just a feminist. Any mention of a "radical capitalist" or a "radical researcher" is redundant.

Where in the term "feminism" do you see anything about equality? Feminism translates from Latin: feminae (women) and ismus (taking side with). No mention of equality.

Check your facts before trumpeting your ignorance.

[Opinion Owner]

@RadagastTheBrown shut the fuck up. I never said feminism, radical or otherwise means equality. In fact if you read through you would know I said any philosophy that puts another gender above another isn't equality. But feminists still claim they are all about equality. Just because I point that out doesn't mean I agree. But you can't say "meninisim" is any more about equality than feminism is. It's all bullshit. Jesus...

[100lbguy]

So if you say both men and women should not have to enter the corporate hierarchy, you totally fine of women doing other careers? Feminazi minority is bad, the normal majority are not the bad ones, don't generalize or you just same as those Loony lefties that say all right wings are far right which clearly only fringe minority is just like the feminism.

[esotericstory]

Nobody identifies themselves as far right, and no so called extreme feminist identifies themselves as extreme. We have to stay intellectually honest, and not just label our opponents whats convenient to ourselves.

[Shezadi]

I think you should read mytake on feminism which recently got featured. It was called "problems with feminism and how it can improve."
However, a mother has the right to work and it is her choice, she can make decisions for her children.

[esotericstory]

Its only her choice if that family can survive from one wage, most families can't.

[bamesjond0069]

Its only her choice if a man would have a child with her. Id never associate with a "working woman" its literally disgusting.

[WifeInNeedOfAdvice]

So if the mother is working do the kids go to daycare or is the dad a stay at home dad?

[Shezadi]

@bamesjond0069 it's okay if you want a housewife
a lot of men look down on housewives
it depends on men's attitude also
some women earn money to feel good about themselves
we all have to earn money at some point
we can't depend on others

[Anonymous]

Feminism is not 'bad' it is essential. Otherwise, women would still be in the kitchen, and not have the vote. There's still a disparity in pay between men and women in some professions, too, when there's no logical reason for it.

[esotericstory]

You do realize that feminism is two hundred years old or something like that? You use arguments that haven't been relevant in over 50 years. feminism is a dead ideology that is incapable of renewing itself.

[Anpu23]

Feminism's biggest lie, yhey got you the vote... no they didn't.

[Diana7]

So answer this: if women were getting paid 70 cents to the dollar that men make, wouldn’t that be actually an incentive for companies to hire them over men since they would actually be making a greater profit? IF there is a disparity it is because women make different choices to work part time or leave the workforce to take care of children. Don’t repeat everything you hear. It Is full of logical fallacies.

[Opinion Owner]

"You do realize that feminism is two hundred years old or something like that?"
You clearly didn't pay attention in history at school, did? Emily Pankhurst throwing herself under the king's horse was not 200 years ago. It is, anyway, irrelevant how old feminism is - it exists for a (good) reason.

"You use arguments that haven't been relevant in over 50 years. feminism is a dead ideology that is incapable of renewing itself."
Hahahha, this is ridiculous. The idea that women deserve equality is "irrelevant", and 'feminism is a dead ideology...'. If you think that women's equality is irrelevant, then I'm sorry but that is simply stupid - no good reason why women don't deserve all the same rights as men.
Secondly, feminism is constantly renewing itself (look at the academic scholarship... but you probably won't be able to read those), but again that point is orthogonal to the idea that feminism MATTERS.

How brain dead are you?

[esotericstory]

Nobody deserves anything for existing girl, your life is nothing unless you make it into some thing. Thats some nice stoic philosophy for you to think about.

[Anpu23]

I have read many feminist works, both modern and classical. And I am very aware of modern feminist theory. I also have watched many feminist speeches including Emma Watson's "He for She" speech in front of the UN, and the "Nasty Woman" speech by Ashley Judd. I also have followed many of the current debates including the state of Title 9.

[Opinion Owner]

@Anpu23 Emma Watson is not an academic authority.

And if you're up to date with current feminist academics, then you should know that different academics have different ideas on what feminism is, but the one consensus is that women ought to be equal in rights to men. What is it about women being equal that you disagree with? Honestly...

[esotericstory]

If men and women are to be equal in rights both men and women should have the same rights to abort children, but men can't, because they can't get pregnant, men being able to abort a baby in a woman's body would be unethical. Thus purely on the basis of biology of men and women equal rights cannot be achieved.

[Anpu23]

to me the defining belief of feminism is Patriarchy theory (https://www. girlsaskguys. com/other/a27260-the-definition-of-feminism-my-proposed-revision), as feminism is not now, nor has it ever been an equality movement. It claims to be, but it's actions (as shown by major feminist lobbying, etc.) has shown what it truly is.

[Poormanscomedian]

It is women that want to be equal to men until they commit a crime, the it is show mercy, I am a woman and expect to get two weeks time served. Seriously , when a man plays with little Cindy's meow, he gets 20 to life, when a woman plays with Peter's pecker, she gets 4 months. If you are going to be paid like a man for a job, you need the same treatment when you commit a crime.

[Poormanscomedian]

I also think women want it all which is impossible. You can't work 70 hours a week and raise your children correctly. Your kids will grow up with very little compassion. This why men treat women so poorly now, their mothers worked. That is also why prisons are running over.

[briecheese07]

what if they're a single mom? or maybe they're a low-income family? then they need a job, duh.