Lol, trust me, the generation we are raising are entitled people with no ambition who want things handed to them because they can't be bothered to look up from their phones for 5 minutes to learn anything of any importance. When they're running America in 20 years, you'll see what I mean.
@gotc147 Well Gee, First you have things like gutting the mental health system, Then you have the whole. Arming mujahideen in afganistan and accidentally creating the taliban and al-Qeuda and essentially starting a chain of events that lead to our current situation in the middle east' Or how about Iran contra where he sold weapons to iran to give to the contras when it was HIGH TREASON considering that Congress and the senate had said no. Then you have the Damage he did to the middle class with reaganonics, Where all he did was end up furthering economic inequality. Or how about the fact that statistically, his administration was the most corrupt Clinton, of course, only had one. "By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. www.unique-design.net/.../..._and_after_reagan.jpg
First off, Reagan didn't "gut" the mental health system, he made it so you can't just be thrown into a mental institution on a whim as governor of California. Reagan was governor of California from 1967 to 1975, the ACLU brought a lawsuit named Wyatt vs Aderholt against the United States in 1974, which made its way all the way up to the Supreme Court who sided with the ACLU and did on a national level what Reagan did in California regarding mental health. Learn your history.
So Obama is guilty of high treason as then right? Since he's doing the same thing with Syrian "rebels" who have known links to ISIS.
Reaganomics are what gave us the boom of the 1990s, yes not everybody benefitted the same from it but it's still the only system that has proven to pull people up the economic ladder, every other system drags everybody (except the ruling class) down, but it's done equally which is the only thing that matters to you.
@gotc147 No, Reaganomics DID NOT give us the 90s boom, that would have FUCKING CLINTON. 'Seriously, you've been brainwashed into thinking reagan was this great leader, in reality, he was just terrible
@gotc147 As for every other system, The Scandinavian countrys are doing fairly well for themselves and don't have this healthcare problem, massive homelessness, and the mental health crisis, So yeah it works, seriously anyone who says otherwise is in denial of the facts
@gotc147 But your gonna pull that whole 'socialism is a slow poison' shit, But Democratic socialism is a mix of capitalism and socialism and IT FUCKING WORKS, All the people doing who brush that off are just being willfully ignorant
Clinton? Lol Clinton threw the working Reaganomics system out the window with NAFTA and spent the rest of his tenure getting blowjobs in the Oval Office and groping women, oh, and signing the Defense of Marriage Act. Name what policy Clinton passed that helped the economy, given that he didn't take office until 1993 and even NAFTA didn't take effect until 1994 he couldn't possibly be responsible for the 90s boom, his policies didn't start taking effect until too late for them to have had an effect. It's more accurate to say Clinton's policies contributed to 9/11 and the 2008 recession.
You are aware that illegal immigrants are included in the homelessness rate right? Scandinavian countries actually enforce their immigration laws so obviously the issue isn't as big.
As I said, Connecticut is exhibit A in how "successful" Progressive economics are, and they are clearly SHIT.
@gotc147 You know one of the handful of good things about massachusetts, OUR ECONOMY IS DOING VERY WELL, So is washington states, so don't give me that whole liberal policies thing. B. The largest causes of the 2008 recession are things BUSH did, Such as decided to CUT TAXES WHILE INVADING IRAQ, That is the reason our debt is so high, that is such a monumentally stupid and idiotic decision
You are aware that the federal government didn't collect income taxes on the people until 1913 right? We won how many wars before then? Had roads, schools, a military, etc. If you honestly think our national debt is so high just because Bush cut taxes (which Obama has not raised) you're crazy.
North Carolina has had the strongest economic recovery of all 50 states and that only happened after the Democrats who ran the state for over a century were finally shown the door and we got Republican majorities in both houses as well as a Republican governor.
Meanwhile red states continue to experience solid growth in businesses and jobs and population while blue states lose all of the above.
Red herring, your original statement was about our high debt allegedly being because of the Bush tax cuts, not about how well off the average person was before 1913.
You're losing this debate dude, you might want to change tactics.
@gotc147 Fine bush tax cuts, The fact is that WAR IS EXPENSIVE, And bush decided to cut taxes when generally in times of war we have RAISED THEM because we need the funds, now without being able to collect those funds we turned to borrowing more and more, so we essentially borrowed the majority of the income necessary for the invasions. Dear god I thought that was fucking self explainatory, And no I'm not losing this debate, you are, I've countered each of your points the fact is that this situation we are is largely due to republicans, who are known for shutting down the government on in the case of several southern reds states, threatening to fucking secede if they don't get what they wnat
Simply stating a response is not tantamount to countering a point. You've said a lot of things, most of them vague, evidence-less accusations with zero articulation. You haven't managed to counter a single thing I've said but I'll give you another chance, we'll start with one simple point:
Connecticut is in the worst financial shape of all 50 states, yet it is held up as a model of progressive policy by Barrack Obama, this demonstrates that progressive policy is bad policy.
Oh puhleeze. You Commiecrats still pining for the Soviet Empire? Yep, Uncle Ron faced them down. Whatever other faults he had are tiny in comparison.
But you are just 21. You were not one of the symps and dupes performing political fellatio on the Sandinistas.
However, you were mis-educated by same. And they charged you an arm and a leg for your indoctrination in multi-communist and politically communist bogus studies! Enjoy paying off those loans!
@Curmudgeon "Oh puhleeze. You Commiecrats still pining for the Soviet Empire? " No, I'd like the social policies of scandinavia and comparing that to the soviets is incredibly ingorant. Second, 1. Reagan sold guns to iran to give money to the contras. (Treason) 2. I may be a liberal but I love guns and he supported the Assault Weapons Ban of 94 3. His administration was statistically the most corrupt. 4. Reaganomics is something the country is STILL recovering from 5. He called for and had overturned a progressive mental health bill passed by Carter, Thats the reasons we are seeing so many mass shootings. 6. Cut funding to NASA So the fact that he faced down an empire that by 1980 was already dying doesn't account for shit. 7. By the logic you gave about reagans faults with his corruption being fine, then you must support clinton
Oh puhleeze again: 1. Reagan used the Ayatollah's money to fund contras and overthrow the Sandinista Soviet Colony, while Commiecrats were sucking Sandinista wieners. Yah, the metaphor is accurate. I was there. I saw it. 2. The Assault Weapons Ban of *1994* happened when Reagan was Alzheimer suffering and out of office, by Clinton. 3. In an age when the IRS is used to hound political opponents, surely you jest. 4. You believe in bashing business? That Obamunist recovery, paying people to sit around so unemployment goes down, is mighty, isn't it? 5. Importing hostile people from hostile lands might have something to do with that. 6. Cut funding to NASA--Gee, you were worried about budget busting, were you not? And the Obamunist has eliminated NASA. 7. "So the fact that he faced down an empire that by 1980 was already dying doesn't account for shit."-- Snort. Anyone who predicted the Soviet Union's collapse as late as 1985, as Reagan DID, was ridiculed for it. I was there. I saw that too.
@Curmudgeon I've heard all the different countries made business deals... the wars or whatever may not be what you think. Just because you're here doesn't mean you know... I've heard also right here in the USA prosecutors and lawyers have lunches together, and everything is just about deals and money. That's why the economy is so horrible. Hard to be entitled when you don't even have enough money to buy food or pay rent, and all the older people have the part time jobs. Or when college grads have awful lives or commit suicide over their student loan debt.
Really, trump worked hard to inherit his daddy's real estate empire, because thats where the vast majority of his wealth came from, not from profits he made from business deals with a small loan from his daddy
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They complain because the younger generation is lazy. Trust me, I have to deal with the laziness every day at my job. And they are entitled.
And the stats say they are better than the older generations,
Lol, trust me, the generation we are raising are entitled people with no ambition who want things handed to them because they can't be bothered to look up from their phones for 5 minutes to learn anything of any importance. When they're running America in 20 years, you'll see what I mean.
When they are running america, chances are we will actually be making progress with things like healthcare
Its the people who voted for reagan that fucked the country over
Lol, okay, you keep thinking that... let's talk in 20 years.
You do know just how much damage Reagan did to the country, that we are still feeling the aftermath
you're a millennial... That means it's not a generation because you yourself claim that you are not lazy. That means it's specific people.
@Waffles731 I would LOVE for you to point to which policies Regan supported that made the situation so horrible, be specific.
@gotc147 Well Gee,
First you have things like gutting the mental health system,
Then you have the whole. Arming mujahideen in afganistan and accidentally creating the taliban and al-Qeuda and essentially starting a chain of events that lead to our current situation in the middle east'
Or how about Iran contra where he sold weapons to iran to give to the contras when it was HIGH TREASON considering that Congress and the senate had said no.
Then you have the Damage he did to the middle class with reaganonics, Where all he did was end up furthering economic inequality.
Or how about the fact that statistically, his administration was the most corrupt Clinton, of course, only had one. "By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations.
www.unique-design.net/.../..._and_after_reagan.jpg
@gotc147 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuIMROnIcAINayQ.jpg
@gotc147
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a27697-3-reasons-that-ronald-reagan-was-a-absolutely-terrible-president
@gotc147
The Conservatives IDOLIZE a man who essentially commited high treason, people bitch about clinton but Reagans crimes were worse
LOL wow dude, just wow!
First off, Reagan didn't "gut" the mental health system, he made it so you can't just be thrown into a mental institution on a whim as governor of California. Reagan was governor of California from 1967 to 1975, the ACLU brought a lawsuit named Wyatt vs Aderholt against the United States in 1974, which made its way all the way up to the Supreme Court who sided with the ACLU and did on a national level what Reagan did in California regarding mental health. Learn your history.
So Obama is guilty of high treason as then right? Since he's doing the same thing with Syrian "rebels" who have known links to ISIS.
Reaganomics are what gave us the boom of the 1990s, yes not everybody benefitted the same from it but it's still the only system that has proven to pull people up the economic ladder, every other system drags everybody (except the ruling class) down, but it's done equally which is the only thing that matters to you.
@gotc147 No, Reaganomics DID NOT give us the 90s boom, that would have FUCKING CLINTON.
'Seriously, you've been brainwashed into thinking reagan was this great leader, in reality, he was just terrible
@gotc147 As for every other system,
The Scandinavian countrys are doing fairly well for themselves and don't have this healthcare problem, massive homelessness, and the mental health crisis,
So yeah it works, seriously anyone who says otherwise is in denial of the facts
@gotc147 But your gonna pull that whole 'socialism is a slow poison' shit,
But Democratic socialism is a mix of capitalism and socialism and IT FUCKING WORKS,
All the people doing who brush that off are just being willfully ignorant
Clinton? Lol Clinton threw the working Reaganomics system out the window with NAFTA and spent the rest of his tenure getting blowjobs in the Oval Office and groping women, oh, and signing the Defense of Marriage Act. Name what policy Clinton passed that helped the economy, given that he didn't take office until 1993 and even NAFTA didn't take effect until 1994 he couldn't possibly be responsible for the 90s boom, his policies didn't start taking effect until too late for them to have had an effect. It's more accurate to say Clinton's policies contributed to 9/11 and the 2008 recession.
You are aware that illegal immigrants are included in the homelessness rate right? Scandinavian countries actually enforce their immigration laws so obviously the issue isn't as big.
As I said, Connecticut is exhibit A in how "successful" Progressive economics are, and they are clearly SHIT.
@gotc147
You know one of the handful of good things about massachusetts,
OUR ECONOMY IS DOING VERY WELL,
So is washington states, so don't give me that whole liberal policies thing.
B. The largest causes of the 2008 recession are things BUSH did,
Such as decided to CUT TAXES WHILE INVADING IRAQ, That is the reason our debt is so high, that is such a monumentally stupid and idiotic decision
You are aware that the federal government didn't collect income taxes on the people until 1913 right? We won how many wars before then? Had roads, schools, a military, etc. If you honestly think our national debt is so high just because Bush cut taxes (which Obama has not raised) you're crazy.
North Carolina has had the strongest economic recovery of all 50 states and that only happened after the Democrats who ran the state for over a century were finally shown the door and we got Republican majorities in both houses as well as a Republican governor.
Meanwhile red states continue to experience solid growth in businesses and jobs and population while blue states lose all of the above.
@gotc147
And you were aware of just how BAD off the average person was before 1913 right
Red herring, your original statement was about our high debt allegedly being because of the Bush tax cuts, not about how well off the average person was before 1913.
You're losing this debate dude, you might want to change tactics.
@gotc147 Fine bush tax cuts, The fact is that WAR IS EXPENSIVE, And bush decided to cut taxes when generally in times of war we have RAISED THEM because we need the funds, now without being able to collect those funds we turned to borrowing more and more, so we essentially borrowed the majority of the income necessary for the invasions.
Dear god I thought that was fucking self explainatory,
And no I'm not losing this debate, you are, I've countered each of your points the fact is that this situation we are is largely due to republicans, who are known for shutting down the government on in the case of several southern reds states, threatening to fucking secede if they don't get what they wnat
Simply stating a response is not tantamount to countering a point. You've said a lot of things, most of them vague, evidence-less accusations with zero articulation. You haven't managed to counter a single thing I've said but I'll give you another chance, we'll start with one simple point:
Connecticut is in the worst financial shape of all 50 states, yet it is held up as a model of progressive policy by Barrack Obama, this demonstrates that progressive policy is bad policy.
Counter that statement.
@gotc147 I did, WASHINGTON AND MASSACHUSETTS ARE DOING JUST FINE.
Seriously, the demcrats AREN'T PROGRESSIVE.
@gotc147 The dems suck just as bad as the republicans
Oi, okay, you obviously are incapable of staying on topic so I'll just leave now.
Enjoy your weekend.
@gotc147 and you are obviously incapable of reason
Oh puhleeze. You Commiecrats still pining for the Soviet Empire? Yep, Uncle Ron faced them down. Whatever other faults he had are tiny in comparison.
But you are just 21. You were not one of the symps and dupes performing political fellatio on the Sandinistas.
However, you were mis-educated by same. And they charged you an arm and a leg for your indoctrination in multi-communist and politically communist bogus studies! Enjoy paying off those loans!
@Curmudgeon "Oh puhleeze. You Commiecrats still pining for the Soviet Empire? "
No, I'd like the social policies of scandinavia and comparing that to the soviets is incredibly ingorant.
Second,
1. Reagan sold guns to iran to give money to the contras. (Treason)
2. I may be a liberal but I love guns and he supported the Assault Weapons Ban of 94
3. His administration was statistically the most corrupt.
4. Reaganomics is something the country is STILL recovering from
5. He called for and had overturned a progressive mental health bill passed by Carter, Thats the reasons we are seeing so many mass shootings.
6. Cut funding to NASA
So the fact that he faced down an empire that by 1980 was already dying doesn't account for shit.
7. By the logic you gave about reagans faults with his corruption being fine, then you must support clinton
Oh puhleeze again:
1. Reagan used the Ayatollah's money to fund contras and overthrow the Sandinista Soviet Colony, while Commiecrats were sucking Sandinista wieners. Yah, the metaphor is accurate. I was there. I saw it.
2. The Assault Weapons Ban of *1994* happened when Reagan was Alzheimer suffering and out of office, by Clinton.
3. In an age when the IRS is used to hound political opponents, surely you jest.
4. You believe in bashing business? That Obamunist recovery, paying people to sit around so unemployment goes down, is mighty, isn't it?
5. Importing hostile people from hostile lands might have something to do with that.
6. Cut funding to NASA--Gee, you were worried about budget busting, were you not? And the Obamunist has eliminated NASA.
7. "So the fact that he faced down an empire that by 1980 was already dying doesn't account for shit."-- Snort. Anyone who predicted the Soviet Union's collapse as late as 1985, as Reagan DID, was ridiculed for it. I was there. I saw that too.
@Curmudgeon I've heard all the different countries made business deals... the wars or whatever may not be what you think. Just because you're here doesn't mean you know... I've heard also right here in the USA prosecutors and lawyers have lunches together, and everything is just about deals and money. That's why the economy is so horrible. Hard to be entitled when you don't even have enough money to buy food or pay rent, and all the older people have the part time jobs. Or when college grads have awful lives or commit suicide over their student loan debt.
Nailed it brother. Knocked it out of the park, great take!
I don't blame the millennials do you want to know why cause it ain't your fault it's the government's fault for making it get this way
hell you guys should feel entitled because your starting out in life
Let's face it, guy, most young people are arrogant, entitled, and lazy as hell. That's what comes from having so much convenience in life.
um i did not need to read this im pretty sure millionaires work hard to be millionaires
Really, trump worked hard to inherit his daddy's real estate empire, because thats where the vast majority of his wealth came from, not from profits he made from business deals with a small loan from his daddy
Millennials, not millionaires
@FallOutBoy2001 Besides becoming very wealthy doesn't just require hard work, it requires hard work and a fuckload of luck
i did not say all did damn and trump is not really my concern do to the fact i can't vote
@FallOutBoy2001 leave me be
Hey, you commented on mytake
all i said was people work hard to get where thy are sorry i should have said most
They do work hard, like most people, however they also happened to have an incredible run of luck
Dude, you're right. However she misread your title and commented, because she saw millionaires not millennials
they are right about the younger generation... im not too proud being a part of it either
I'm allowed to complain about millennials because I was born at the end of 1999. ;)
You are a millennial
FINALLY!! Someone who gets it.