Stop Bitching About Millennials Being Lazy and Entitled!

[Waffles731]

You see A LOT of older people especially or conservatives calling millennials lazy or wanting everything in life handed to them.

That is not the case. We don't want everything handed to us. The fact is WE DO actually have more problems to deal with than older generations, all because the older generations thought people like Reagan (The traitor, https://www.girlsaskguys.com/social-relationships/a27697-3-reasons-that-ronald-reagan-was-a-absolutely-terrible-president)

1. College is FAR more expensive than older generations who had it.

Yeah, when older people whine about "Those lazy millenials wanting free college, I didn't get that and I turned out okay."

These people are being INCREDIBLY ignorant about really how much the cost of college has increased. Not only that, but while that would be fine if wages had increased with them, but as you can see, THEY HAVEN'T.

So yeah, We aren't wanting affordable or free college because we are lazy, we are wanting these things because unlike what the people complaining about us we actually realize that it has gotten so freaking expensive, and the older generations actually should stop their bitching because THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

2. Rent has GONE WAY UP.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/200223/median-apartment-rent-in-the-us-since-1980/

When people whine about all these millenials moving out much later than older generations. They are not taking into account that again older generations had FAR lower rents. This is just another example of older generations acting like things in this country have not changed. They have, and if they weren't ignorant about these things and so incredibly stuck in their ways, they would realize that. So when we want the government to take action on these issues, its not because we are lazy, its simply because they have gotten much worse than they used to be.

3. Employers are far less willing to hire people our age

https://www.BBC.com/capital/story/20151118-this-is-the-real-reason-new-graduates-cant-get-hired

Yes, we are having trouble with unemployment because companies all to often are simply wanting a lot of work experience for entry level jobs. What older people and conservatives fail to realize is that my generations is all too frequently faced with the 'You need an entry level job but to get it you need work experience that you can only get from at least an entry level job.' The Mortons Fork Dilemma. We would be extremely willing to work yet work is so hard to find right now, So you bitch about us wanting to raise the minimum wage but we are merely looking for a living wage, if companies would hire us for work in our fields, don't you think we'd take it, anyone who has worked a retail job knows just how much it sucks.

4. Millenials aren't lazy or stupid or irresponsible compared to older generations, if anything its the opposite.

Now when anyone of the older generation complains about Millennials and their lack of responsibility when it comes to sex and pregnancy the fact is not only are you wrong but people in glass houses should not throw stones because the numbers say that its you who were the lazy, stupid and irresponsible ones, and unlike you guys, the numbers do not lie.

Dear Older Generations, Don't fucking say that we are the irresponsible ones. We are not, YOU WERE. Frankly if anything, we are far more responsible when it comes to teen pregnancy that you were so really just stop fucking whining.

Now it doesn't stop there either.

Its been said that we are all on drugs

Again, Glass Houses because the numbers show otherwise

Yeah, We aren't doing more drugs, WE ARE DOING LESS. I don't know if you are remember the the Baby Boomers and the hippie movement and all the LSD and Weed and Shrooms your generation did but thats the line of thought I'm leaning to.

Also when you call us Lazy, We aren't and while older generations may have had Jobs.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nearly-4-out-of-5-students-work-2013-08-07

Statistically, 4/5 students work part time these days. The fact is that while students may have held down a job, It wasn't 4/5 of them. So no, Lazy We are not,

And do not think I'm done, we are not more stupid than older generations. We are far less likely to be a high school dropout than older generations:

https://www.statisticbrain.com/high-school-dropout-statistics/

And there is a FAR higher percentage of us attaining a college degree than older generations

So, No, we are not stupid, lazy, Irresponsible and I would really appreciate it if older generations would stop being fucking hypocrites about that, Thanks.

I wrote this take because I'm tired of getting criticized because apparently according to older generations, my generation is lazy, ignorant, wanting things handed to them, or irresponsible. The numbers say otherwise and number don't lie.

[Mustachekitteh]

Old people always complain about the younger generation being lazy and good for nothing.

[OlderAndWiser]

I have been a mentor to teens in my area for the past 8 years. I have recently also become a mentor to local college students, so I have a better exposure to young people than do most people of my age. In general, I do not think that your generation is lazy, but there is a lazy segment which gets more attention than the industrious, hard working kids who are silently accomplishing goals in their lives.

Every generation that comes along complains that their lives are more difficult and more complicated than the lives of preceding generations.

College is so expensive. Many on your generation go to college as a means of avoiding entry into the real world. They get degrees in art history or philosophy, come out of college with $100,000 in debt, and then complain that they can't get a job. I understand that your parents had an expectation for you to go to college but you could do a better job of planning for your career. If fewer kids went to college, supply-and-demand would force colleges to reduce their prices.

Rent is so expensive. In earlier generations, young people continued living with their parents after they reached age 18. Extended families stayed together and there were benefits. So not your generation continues living with their parents but complains about how we had it easier. Not really! If you want an apartment, get roommates. That is what I did. Don't expect to rent your own personal Taj Mahal on entry level salary.

Employers won't hire you. Get work experience while you are in college instead of partying for 4 years. Do internships.

The business environment in this country has been horrible for the past 8+ years but your generation wants Bernie Sanders to tax corporations even more so you can get "free stuff." Do you think that would result in more jobs or less jobs? Greed is self-defeating. Union workers insist on higher wages, so manufacturers move their operations overseas and union workers get laid off.

No, most in your generation are not lazy, or stupid, or greedy. Most of you do not use drugs. Most of you are not having babies out of wedlock. But when the snowflakes want to postpone finals because they are so traumatized by the election results. . . do older people develop more or less respect for young people? I know that is not fair to the majority of young people, but the silent majority doesn't speak up and make its voice heard: same mistake my generation made. So your generation isn't all that different.

[Waffles731]

I did point out that drug use is actually down, the amount of teenagers working is higher than any past generation

[OlderAndWiser]

Yes, I am very encouraged by what I see in this generation and I routinely defend it when I hear old folks launching into the usual "this generation has gone to hell" speech. Your point about more young people working contradicts your point about jobs being harder to get, doesn't it?

[Waffles731]

then add in that while some do actually go to college as an avoidance of the real world, there is still no good substitute for college

[Waffles731]

Not really, yeah more and more teenagers are working but they work minimum wage jobs,
When you get out of college with a degree, even an internship, getting a job is even worse for us than anyone else

[OlderAndWiser]

Telling yourself that jobs are more difficult to find doesn't mean they really are. EVERY generation says to their elders "we have it so much tougher than when you were young."

A conductor on a freight train can earn $100,000 per year. Entry level welders can earn up to $50,000/year. Electricians can earn $50,000/year and even more if they are willing to travel. Restaurant managers earn up to $45,000/year. These salaries beat what some college graduates are earning 5 years after graduation. But they are hard work and are not glamorous jobs. No, college is not an essential requirement.

[Waffles731]

Do you know any conducters?
I actually do, a good family friend is one.
Do you know how hard it is to find a job as a train conductor?
Cause I do, He got layed off once and despite constant applying and such it was two years before he found another. (Then he had his first suicide by train and got a months paid leave.)
Even two years later he still refuses to say very much about it

[Waffles731]

Welders, yeah thats going away fast due to technological innovation, 20 years from now, Its fairly likely that welding will be done by robots.
Restaraunt managers?
Yeah you need a degree for that now

[Klara-Hitler]

You shouldn’t use statistics and numbers without studying the topic.

Before Christmas me and a Russian friend of mine in America talked about the American economy and society and the impacts of sexual revolution in the 70’s for one month. That made me research a lot about it and even rent some data and write more than 40 pages for myself as an essay in German.

To answer this, most of these figures show rates from 60’s/90's onward. That is the wrong way to study this topic because in the 1960’s the culture already had begun to have major shifts in cultural values. You have to always go back to the 1940’s if you want to see the real curves.
If you look at the figures of STDs and “underage” birth rates in CDC reports they weren’t very high before 60’s. With sexual revolution and major shifts in values in late 60’s and 70’s, rates of STDs and STIs and underage pregnancies and teen/adult pregnancies (especially young adults between 18-25) outside of marriage suddenly skyrocketed.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db89.pdf
18-19 young adults, had the highest birth rates in “1960’s”, but they were mostly happening in marriages. In 1960's Only 4% of all single mothers had never been married, by 2011, the share of single mothers who had never been married had reached 44%. Most of those birth rates in this age group weren’t a sign of irresponsibility at the beginning of the era of sexual revolution, they were a sign of early marriage and responsibility. But in 3 decades almost everything has changed in this age group, changed from early marriage and responsibility to irresponsible breeding and single motherhood and the birth rates slowly went down with the increasing use of the pill. Marriage/early responsibility and birthrates have dropped, irresponsible breeding increased 40%.

15-19 pregnancy, pregnancy between the under-age teenagers, was much lower in 1940’s, then it went up to a historic high in 50's and 60’s with the change of values just before sexual revolution. And then it slowly dropped. Using what? The pill.

These were birth rates.

The number of babies born to women in Figure 2:
Number of babies born to women 15-19 hit a historic high in “1970’s” again during sexual revolution. Not in the 1940’s. In 1940's they were slightly lower than 2010. And the sudden drop of birth rates were actually affected by the depression between 2008-2010.

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[Klara-Hitler]

The growth of unwed childbearing/death of marriage
www.heritage.org/.../marriage-america-s-greatest-weapon-against-child-poverty
www.heritage.org/.../b2465_chart3.ashx

Then you have the rise of STDs
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001717.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/std/stats07/trends.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/std/stats07/surv2007final.pdf
https://www.cdc.gov/std/stats14/surv-2014-print.pdf


Looking at the figures, there is a rise in almost all STDs in the late 70's and 80's after the sexual revolution. By 1992 syphilis was at a 40-year high. In 1993, pelvic inflammatory disease which is caused by gonorrhea or chlamydia, was affecting 1 million new women each year. then they all fall back to 50's percentage, and that’s while the U. S. population increased almost 150 million. During the 1960s there were two big STDs, now there are twenty-four.

Current Annual new infections are: 20 million
Total infections : 110 million

[Klara-Hitler]

50% of the new STIs are for young people aged 15-24. Birth rates of 15-24 were lowered? Oh yes. But hey they now have 10 millions of your annual new infections instead. Hurray for the pill and sexual revolution.

Total medical costs : $16 billion

If you consider marrying early between 18-19 and having safe sex and then having children being irresponsible, and consider promiscuity at the age of 15-24 and having half the new annual infections and avoiding having children with the use of birth control Pills being more responsible, then you certainly have a different perceptions of reality than educated people.

[Klara-Hitler]

And about the pill. Your youth’s birth rates are lowered significantly because your women are filling their bellies with birth control pills while the high rates of STI’s between your youth with today’s medical standards compared to 1950’s, show their absolute sexual irresponsibility.

The over-use of Pill from a very early age alone not only doesn’t show your responsibility towards sexual activities, it shows the current society is sexually far more irresponsible. And when you are sexually irresponsible you are irresponsible in your relationships, you are more irresponsible in your marriages and divorces. And that is where your high divorce rates come in the picture.

Plus the birth control and the current culture of promiscuity together are causing population decline and encouraging politicians to push for mass-immigration in both Europe and America...

[Klara-Hitler]

... which causes cultural crisis, increases of welfare spending significantly, and will lower your living standards as a result.

And what do you think all of these “responsible” activities of the new generation is causing?

Read the 2013 Index of Dependence on Government, on heritage. org
www.heritage.org/.../the-2013-index-of-dependence-on-government

Read it completely and carefully. The dependence is growing every year. And you “compare” the responsibility of the generation of 1950’s to yourselves?

You aren’t the “first” generation of irresponsible people in west, that is for sure. It was the generation of 60’s and 70’s who began everything. But you are not more responsible than them.

The only difference between you and that generation is that that generation still had the money and influence and the profit of the America’s victory in WWII, the "Ugly American" era, plus the economic freedom that the generations of 20’s and 30’s and 40’s gave them and they had enough

[Klara-Hitler]

... money to waste without putting too much pressure on the economy.

But because of the same generation and their irresponsible behaviour, their demands, and their ideals now your nuclear family is dead. If you don’t know the importance of nuclear family in capitalism you don’t know capitalism. Your middle class is trapped in a vicious cycle that destroyed a big portion of it and is destroying it, the mental health of your children is in serious danger,
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr074.pdf

your welfare spending and dependence is terrifyingly increasing.

You are not less irresponsible than the generations of 60’s and 70’s, you are just unable to be “more” irresponsible because of the bad situation of the society and culture and the economy.

[Klara-Hitler]

And that is why now that your daddy’s out of money because of your demands and lifestyle in the past 40 years, more and more of your generation are becoming socialists because “public purse can pay for my irresponsible lifestyle. those greedy rich people”. Yeey.

More responsible than past generations? no. Definitely less irresponsible.

[orphan]

i love it when a comment outshines the article.

millennials consume more than they contribute. the end.

[Klara-Hitler]

@orphan yah. thanks.

[Anonymous]

I completely agree with @manonfire about:
"... with employers discriminating on lack of work experience, and creating questionnaires on online applications that are really set up for the vast majority of applicants to fail so employers can choose from the very few that please them."
Plus, the EOEs (Equal Opportunity Employers) say that they do not discriminate based on age, sex, marital status, ethnicity, veteran status,... but at the end of their online applications they add a question somewhat on the lines of: "we don't discriminate against those things, but what is your status on those things anyway?" !!! If you don't discriminate against it, what do you care what my status is on it? And their lame excuse is that they collect that information for statistical purposes! Dude what the f**k! What are you? The national statistical organization or a stupid fast food or retail chain wanting to hire an underpaid overworked poor student? Why are the national statistics your problem anyway? Of course if the applicant doesn't wish to answer, there is always a "I don't wish to answer" option as well. But choose that, and guess what it means to the recruiter? It means my status in that regard is so bad that I don't even wish to answer, or that I'm already uncooperative. I bet they don't even bother to read the rest of your resume from that point on. And you are also never told why you are not hired. But you also never get to know who the hell it was that did get the position.
The non-EOE's are even funnier. They go straight ahead without feeling the least bit of embarrassment and have 2 options on the first page of their job postings: 1- are you a current employee? 2- are you a new employee?
Do I need to explain the rest? When they have zillions of their own employees competing for higher positions in the company, I doubt if they even shoot a look in the direction of the non-employee applications. As a matter of experience in my current job, they have actually already decided who to promote BEFORE even posting the new opening online for the public.

[Opinion Owner]

I also agree that considering the poor mental and physical health situation that we have in our modern country, is truly hurting our people and their productivity.
Once upon a time, everyone was expected to their job right, but today, whenever you refer to any organization to receive the services you need to continue with your basic life needs, you get an annoying "No, I'm sorry" or "There's been a mistake, sorry" and the organizations leaders don't care about it. Today getting access to a doctor who is not trying to do business with your health, a service company who doesn't send you a multiple copies of the same bill in the hopes of catching you unaware and ripping you off, food production industries that load their food products with tons of weird chemicals hoping to increase their profits without caring how they are affecting people's overall physical health, and tons of other seemingly professionals who don't really care, ...

[Opinion Owner]

... are frustrating our people and taking away our physical health and our means to peace of mind, are wasting our time that we could be spending with our loved ones that actually contributes greatly to our mental health, our ability to care for ourselves and our loved ones, etc.
Today, my husband and I both work over full time, but still have a hard time affording food, rent, and healthcare. We can only afford one car, one phone, and the costs of healthcare for just one of us while the other has to go without proper care and treatment. We've sent out so at least 6000 resumes, and have been rejected so much that we are traumatized. Employers have basically played with our lives like it was a worthless penny. The amount of hormones and additives in our food has directly affected our health. And don't even begin to mention the word relaxation, fun, children, family, or even eating out.

[Opinion Owner]

And we were both A students in school, and started our degrees in college but couldn't get through because the costs of life and school are so high.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Illicit births are down... but only because abortions have gone up. And so have deaths on abortion tables of the mothers - swept under the rug, of course.

Also, there's the fact that while traditional sex - destructive enough outside marriage to the brain's natural wiring - has gone down; even more dangerous paraphilias have risen rapidly. These may not lead to pregnancy as often, but have led to a slew of other problems - particularly mental health-related ones.
AIDS has gone way up too.

And the fact you blame everything on Reagan reveals to me that you have no idea what you're talking about. Much of our federal reserve problems began under Eisenhower. Reagan also inherited Carter's mess. And LBJ's mess. LBJ was the egomaniac that wanted to destigmatize irresponsible sexuality, by subsidizing it.

I agree that employers are way more ruthless and unfair; but let's understand that when we keep permitting d**checanoes to get away with voter fraud and get elected, solely because there is a D behind their names, then we consent to the kinds to insane and inane policy changes that put employers into an impossible squeeze. And they take it out on their employees - especially the new hires, and even the not-yet-hired. After all, that stress has to go somewhere. Especially when gangster government begins putting unconstitutional squeeze on corporate, and corners need to be cut.

Whose fault is that? Yes, there are lot of 8-year-olds that think they should be allowed to play with Angry Birds 24/7 and never learn any social skills. And then there are hard workers too, who don't get acknowledged.

And yes, the older generations refuse to put anything by the younger ones in context, because that requires learning a little bit about the culture changes that gave arise to these new culture changes. And that takes effort.

It's fair they shouldn't whine about Millennials' reluctance to effort, when olders won't lead by example. To be fair, when your grandparents are 80, is it right to demand they be sent back to school, or should you accommodate more?\

I understand some of your frustrations; yet your excessive foul language betrays a rotten attitude which exacerbates your individual problems.

[gotc147]

I'm from your generwtion, and "I" am telling you you're lazy, ignorant, wanting things handed to you and irresponsible.

Let's break down your points one by one...

Your first two points are quite valid, but you're trying to go about fixing them the entirely wrong way. College tuition has skyrocketed primarily because the government keeps pumping money into the federal student aid program, the more money that goes into this program, the more colleges have coming to them and thus the more they have to spend. Looking at the financial responsibility records of most college administrators it's obvious to anybody paying attention that this is a bad idea, because they're irresponsible for it, focusing mostly on athletics rather than academics while leaving their infrastructure to crumble. Stop giving free money to colleges and this problem will go away. I highly recommend researching Donald Trump's college affordability plan, it's brilliant, and would make the cost of tuition plummet.

The cost of rent? Supply and demand, people lost their houses (why they lost them doesn't matter) so they need to go live somewhere so they become renters. Suddenly demand for apartments skyrockets and the supply doesn't grow very quickly, thus the price goes up, way up.

Employers are far less willing to hire people like you because of millenials reputation (earned or otherwise) for being lazy and entitled. They hire people because they need them to do a job, and they're not willing to accommodate a "safe space" for you whenever you overhear a coworker say they're going to vote for Trump. They don't want to hear that you're "offended" because they tell a female coworker that she is not adhering to the dress code and they're not going to want you spending company time sending out newsletters for Bernie Sanders or your favorite SJW website. If you're lucky enough to get a job just shut your mouth and do it, if you see or hear something you don't like grow up and suck it up.

I find it laughable that you think your not irresponsible when a large portion of millenials fight for utterly idiotic causes like transgender bathrooms of justice for criminals killed by law enforcement. All the while letting your freedom of speech, privacy and due process slip away.

Here is a simple real-world lesson in government and public policy: The state with the best financial outlook is Alaska, a very conservative, small-government, low-tax, minimal services state whereas...

[gotc147]

... The state with the worst financial outlook is Connecticut, a very liberal, big-government, high-tax, high-services state.

Millenials overwhelmingly support economic policies like Connecticut's, where revenue equals only 94% of expenses, BILLIONS of dollars are owed to various parties with no realistic way to pay for it and businesses are leaving the state in droves... And this was AFTER the state imposed the largest tax hike in history.

And yet Barack Obama holds up Dannell Malloy, whose approval ratings are the lowest among all 50 governors, as a model for progressive policy. If Connecticut is a model of progressive economic policy then anybody with even a rudementry understanding of economics should immediately see that progressive policies are TERRIBLE.

You rail against Ronald Regan but the reality is his policies paved the way for the economic boom of the 1990s, the leftward shift of both political parties under Bill Clinton is what brought you the disaster we have now.

[ManOnFire]

Wow, dude, a lot of this is true! There IS still an element of laziness to our generation, but in a lot of ways it does become harder to be lazy like you're saying. It's true. It's the older generations that still have stupid ideas that we can just get a job at McDonald's or Walmart and move into a place in a month or two. Maybe back in your day, but not ours.

I empathize with you on the employment thing the most. Getting a job becomes increasingly difficult with employers discriminating on lack of work experience, and creating questionnaires on online applications that are really set up for the vast majority of applicants to fail so employers can choose from the very few that please them.

There is a kind of lazy, entitlement attitude the older generations do have themselves. They're the ones who made it in life in better times, and now have the luxury of having had jobs for years or can relax in retirement, so they don't deal with what we deal with, and don't want to understand where we're coming from.

[krash2002]

Thank you! Finally a My Take on the issue with posted statistics. Well done sir.

My only disagreeance is partial to number 3. This part at least in my opinion. Is half right. As one who takes part in hiring new employee's at the company I work for. Two things truly stand out that I think are issue's that need to be addressed.
1. College Entitlement - This has been a huge issue with a lot of applicants that come in to do interviews. The idea that because they have a bachelors, masters, or possible doctorate. Causes them to think that they deserve the job without much else in regards to effort with previous work experience, or overall knowledge per the particular job they're interviewing for.
2. If you want to be a lawyer, start in the mail room. In today's society, people have to realize that you have to start from the very bottom and work your way up. The days of getting a degree and getting a job for that degree aren't nearly as common as they once were. Most of my companies specific career based entry level jobs are filled from people who are already within the company. A lot of people started doing paper shuffling, answering phones, or doing data-entry. From there, once a position opens. They apply for it, and 80-90% of the time. We end up hiring someone within who applies.

[ChromAzonyx108]

1. There is less return on investment for college education. It would be more bearable if the higher tuition cost came with more proportionate earnings.

2. Yep, never mind getting a house - rent is expensive enough.

3. Catch-22s like that really suck.

4. Why the spike in ecstasy use around 2001? XD

"we are not more stupid than older generations. We are far less likely to be a high school dropout than older generations"
Does having a higher education equate to being smarter? Just something to think about.

Regarding entitlement, I would still say that a lot of millennials feel entitled. Part of the problem is that the previous generation encouraged us to get higher educations because in their time a bachelor's degree (for example) would have been very helpful, but the time's have changed. We were given advice based on how things were in their time though it may not be as applicable today. Ironically, with more people getting bachelor's degrees it doesn't help you stand out as much when so many other people have the same thing.

[meowcow]

You missed a few important points about millenials.

My issue with them, and why I see them as lazy slobs (as a whole), is simply to look at their lifestyle. While rent, university is more expensive, a huge percentage of millenials have done shit with their life even when they hit their 30's.

Examples of this are the millions of people on Twitch who are 20-30 years old, streaming their video gaming while living in their parent's basement. Or the millions of millenials that are 20-30 years old, who still attend Comicon and dress like rainbow ponies and cartoon characters. Or the fact that millenials have HUGE amounts of information at their fingertip with the internet, yet they use it more for porn and funny videos, instead of growing. I used to spend hours digging in library books to find information on something, and now it takes a quick Google search and presto... don't even need to leave my chair at home. So what do millenials do with this extra time? Porn, games, surfing, chatting.

I'm just at the borderline where I'm not called a millenial. And based on the last chart picture in this take, at 25, I had graduated university and was in grad school for a masters degree in biology. Worked 3 jobs - one as a university lecturer, a researcher at a science center and then a private science consultant. Started 2 of my own retail companies at 25 and bought my first home at 26, while still single and paying tuition. Dropped the video game habit, knowing it's worthless. Learned how to manage my money and invest reasonably. Went back to school for an MBA that cost me $90k for 1 year. Bought a second home at 30. Got married at 35.

Then I see some of my younger friends who are 25-30. Still streaming video games on Twitch begging for $5 donations and living with their parents. No wonder as to why so many are in such a dismal position.

[meowcow]

There are also a lot of millenials who make some very stupid life choices, even though they are intelligent. Examples are the millions of millenials who go to college or university, but have no clue on what they want to use that degree for. Focused people pick a career path and then select their college major. Far too many millenials think there will be a miracle moment of clarity where they will know their life calling, and so they wait indefinitely for that moment while taking an easy degree like liberal arts, linguistics or psychology. Upon graduation, they are still clueless and have not spent the 4+ years trying to find their calling. Now they have a degree that is useless because it does not fit the type of job they are interested in. Then complain there's no "good jobs" that pay 100k, even though they have a bachelors in liberal arts and no work experience beyond retail/customer service.

[ObscuredBeyond]

I spent 8 years relentlessly pursuing my degree, only to have essential classes canceled due to school internal politics and have doors shut in my face at every turn.

"Go home."
"It's something you're born into."
"You don't look like that profession's material."
"Nobody's gonna like your ideas."
"You live in the wrong state for that."
"You're too much of a wildcard; and we don't know where to place you."
"You're too different."

I haven't given up; but I know frustration all too well.

[PrincessofNohr]

Well put. The wealth distribution and inflation vs wage increase is absolutely out of control worldwide, and is only going to get worse. Sadly, I think we are seeing the end result of an economy that has always been based on rampant spending. You always hear about companies freaking out when consumers are putting money away for savings instead of blowing it on things, and it seems almost entirely dependent on people being perpetually in debt. Narrow focus on immediate profits and the upper percentile not paying their fair share only makes things worse. The feds aren't much better either, determined to either cut or increase spending right away instead of focusing on ways to downsize bloated government and increase efficiency in the long term. Until all these factors change (and I'm sure I'm missing some), it's only going to get worse.

[SovereignessofVamps]

It is SO the opposite. I have to work so hard to make money online (since very few jobs in my area) the older generations had way more options since you could walk across the street and get hired. And full time hours were so common back then too... they took it for granted and left us with this horrible economy.

[Waffles731]

pretty much

[BusinessBasketball]

I agree. Some are lazy, but I find some baby boomers that are lazy. Well I think everyone is lazy at times. I do not find a problem of being entitled. It means we want to live a better life and have better things. I do not listen to the baby boomers that say things like this. They hate everything about the world.

The job discrimination is real. That's why I will form my own company. I will hire people from different ages that have the right skills that I'm looking for. Plus I will not put questionnaires on the applications. I always find them stupid and pointless.

[JudgmentDay]

Well I say, the more the older generation fucks with the younger generations the more the younger generations should just fuck them all back by not procreating and reproducing and get sterilized and choosing to go our own way and do our own thing. Let 'em all suffer more for it when they realized they broke and fucked up the world for us younger generations and made it so difficult for us to even hold stable jobs and steady careers to actually even maintain and support a traditional family. Let them suffer so that we start living for ourselves and instead of living up to whatever their fucking expectations are. Let them suffer for it when they become old, since they fucked us over in the first place. They never really took care of us in the first place but only took advantage of us.

In most cases I think it's the "Baby Boomers" generation that fucked things up big time and fucked over the millennials and younger generations.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Selfish revenge will not resolve the consequences of the Boomers' selfish spitefulness. We must look at the Builders, and the Silent Generation, that preceded the Boomers. We must humbly accept that at least some of what they understood, they had a point. And get back to that.

Choosing sterility only worsens the problem for the next generation.

[Anonymous]

Nah, there are some bright kids, but a lot of the younger generations are lazy, many are glued to their phones (granted, many older adults are becoming this way as well), lack propriety and etiquette. This is coming from a younger person. The strange thing is all these kids are complaining about jobs when I've easily gotten them with very limited experience. I only started working in my 20's, and I was hired on the spot. I really think kids just lack proper skills needed in the real world. In the schools, they're taught things like algebraic expressions that they'll probably never use and then lack the critical thinking skills to actually make it in the real world. I think the problem is our education system, I don't completely blame millennials. In the end, it is their parents who raised them and didn't enforce good values, morals, or etiquette. My manager said she gets a lot of younger people who come to an interview in jeans and a t-shirt. It's no wonder they don't get a job.

[ChromAzonyx108]

I wouldn't place the blame solely on the education system. Teaching does not replace good parenting.

[Opinion Owner]

That too.

[meowcow]

There are a few bright kids among the masses.

The way the world works has not really changed much. Employers are always selective in the people they hire. They still hire a millenial, but most applicants don't make the cut. Most millenials are so glued to their phones and the internet that they lack real social skills that previous generations held very strongly. They talk big (or rather type big) when they're texting or on social media, but they are awkward and incompetent when speaking publicly or holding a conversation for a job interview.

College grads who fail to get a good job is the result of their own inadequacies in this department. A degree = an opportunity, not a guaranteed job. If one only has the textbook knowledge but lacks the charisma, confidence, calm rational thinking, leadership and ability to make decisions under pressure... like in a job interview, it doesn't matter how much schooling you have.

[Other_Tommy_Wiseau]

Newer generations are a manipulation of the previous generation. If older generations wanna bitch abhor us being lazy, why suck up all social security benefits, spend recklessly and then raise his generation to be "ungrateful?" people are malleable. We don't come in waves with a prototype. We are raised a certain way based on parents and culture. Nature/nurture

[bloodmountain1990]

Great take. The one I hate most is with the employers not hiring people our age and telling us that we're not experienced enough for ENTRY LEVEL jobs. Going by that logic, I must have experience to get experience.

[MrShinyPants]

All i know is this world is pretty sucky and only going to get worse, i am a generation y, every gen has their bad people and good people and different hardships. can't lunk everyone in the same boat because itll sink just like the arguments of those who say if one person is like this then they all are. I think the real cause of the problems people face are sin, convience, technology, media and the instigator society.

[Anonymous]

Lazy comes in all ages people stop being lazy people become lazy sometimes it's actually medical.
But when you're not Lazy by any means but not superhuman and the skills you have been taught aren't the ones that are needed nor have you been able to learn enough of what where between time constraints educational and day to day and lack of guidance from people in an industry related to you.

[SweetHomicidalQueen]

OR

"Stop bitching about everything in general."

I don't know that'd be ideal but yea

[Anonymous]

good take, but remember that pregnancy rates have most likely decreased due to education on safe sex, and same goes for consumption of drugs (due to education on adverse effects of the drugs).