You have only 4 followers, all of them are men. Of course, you don't have your photo as an avatar, so they are obviously not following you because of your attractive looks, one of them is real you - macho misogynist.
Lol I meant to say modern feminism rather than feminism as a whole. I had no idea my take would be this popular or else I would have taken my time to fully explain my views. Truthfully I just half-assed this but thanks for reading!
I agree with you but I only agree because I hate radical feminists. But there are many level headed real feminists out there that actually want positive change and care about the west and the countries that are third world and need feminism more.
As a side note I think feminists get a lot of unneeded hate because of the radical part that I believe just hate men and use feminism as a sort of scape goat. This leads to people thinking that the radical part is feminism but their own "cause" is quite different.
the radical feminism is the REAL feminism, it's the HONEST feminism. the rest is more like an ignorance is bliss feminism-reading the dictionary definition, not the reality.
@feminismisnarcissism radical feminism has different causes to real feminism, real feminism is largely about third world feminism but still recognizes there's problems in North America. Radical feminism has a louder voice because sadly drama and controversial shit these days is the loudest and people read into that more. Radical feminism is more of a hate for men than what the definition says, they want inequality ratehr than equality. There are more types of feminism than one actually, https://www.uah.edu/woolf/feminism_kinds.htm Radical feminist worked back in the 1960`s and 70`s but is no longer very accepted today.
that's a "no true scotsman fallacy" ie a false argument. that said, a movement is defined NOT BY ITS CLAIMED DEFINITION but by its behavior-which ends the argument.
if ANY FEMINISM was about equality then SOME feminism would address the largest disparities IN gender that exist today-all of which harm men and benefit women and all of which were CAUSED BY feminism as a whole
child support (80% disparity) custody 7 to 1 in womens favor criminal law - where women get sentences on average 1/20th of men for same crimes other civil areas domestic violence-70% is perpetuated BY WOMEN, yet they get 500+ shelters for DV in USA, men get 12? college grants: Women are now 2/3 of the population getting degrees in college gender mutilation: 70% in america is men, 0% is women yet we can't even CALL IT "mutilation" if it's a man/boy... even though circumcision removes 2/3 of the penis skin and 2/3 of the nerve endings and IS about decreasing pleasure
@feminismisnarcissism I read something awhile ago where feminists believe that they're still majorly marginalized compared to men so they need more of a specific lens, but that doesn't mean you can't be an "equalist". Also like I said you can't really generalize feminism because there are many categories now. So what you're arguing with me is that feminists today cannot worry about third world problems that have to do with women and not still worry about North America's problems without being labeled a radical feminist and their arguments would be invalid because of that? I don't think so.
again - behavior matters, nothing else. Find me ONE branch of feminism that addresses ONE of the disparities I mentioned. you must, they are the largest disparities there are-so they must be addressed SOMEWHERE or NO feminism is about equality. no way around that-and it's YOUR BURDEN. I've satisfied my burden with facts.
@feminismisnarcissism sigh like I said if you understood feminism at all they look through it as a SPECIFIC LENS aka mostly about females because they think they are majority marginalized today. Now is that necessarily false? Not really so that's the way they view it. But they also see it as you can still be a feminist and an "equalist". So you obviously didn't read what I said.
One is aggressive and the other is not. One is openly misandric, the other is too iliterate to find out most of what she's supporting is based on lies and she is actually asking for more privilege. One talks a lot, the other does nothing to stop them.
One is a monster, the other is the coward who allows the monster to grow. See? I know the difference, it just doesn't make them less despicable each in their own way.
@RedHood7 Not true, you obviously don't know anything outside the walls of patriarchal chauvinism, this is the proper description of differences between feminists and femi-nazis: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=feminazi
No, I believe I'm much smarter than those bloggers. As for cultural appropriation it's not a real thing. Here is one definition of cultural appropriation, "Taking intellectual property, traditional knowledge, cultural expressions, or artifacts from someone else's culture without permission" (Susan Scafidi). As you can see the definition alone is very foolish. Exactly whose permission do I need? It's not appropriation but appreciation. I don't understand cultural appropriation because it doesn't exists, another stupid rant from your modern day feminist.
@CancerianMan81 I didn't even know my post would be this popular. If I had, then I would have clarified my views more. I just half-assed this last night lol
Cultural appropriation boils down to separating people in ethnic groups and actively pushing for segregation, while the minority groups that defend it actively enjoy western society.
Right there, right there, tool. You got played. Instead of arguing with those who made valid, AND accurate arguments against your dumb f***ing point, you chose to address some little fallacy I threw out and you still didn't disprove me. Takes one to know one, and all you can come up is some lame equivalent of "well, you're a stupid head". Try sitting the f*** down to nurse that little ego of yours.
you just entered the world. go get married, then divorced, maybe deal with domestic violence (70% perpetuated by women) and custody. then talk about it (you know, after you know something about it).
@feminismisnarcissism I am 23 and I have seen worse times. I have spent 14 months of my life in prison for nothing. And I believe it was a step taken by God to save my life. I could have been killed outside. Dont need your SHIT again.
so that's some magical being god, some etheral god, not mother nature dude. Mother nature would be more like a tornado that rips the wall off your cell and sets you free. what the hell are you talking about and why move your cheese so much?
You can know about divorce laws and everything without having to live it, there are so many horror stories. I just wanted to say it's cool you are openminded!
Femism was much needed once but it is time for them to stop their "work" in the west and focus on real patriarchal societies, where women actually face horrible oppression.
i want two billion dollar for R and D the subject : giving everyfeminist the ability to grow a penis so when i say to her go fuck yourself she can do it literally
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If only there were more women like you. if only. yOU ARE A SMART GIRL AND KNOWS HER STUFF. I would date a girl like you in a heartbeat. Great mytake
Honestly Thank YOU for writing this mytake. I agree with everything said. It takes me back to my college days when I graduated, we had various companies come and give applications to prospective students to get a job and i was so excited because after 4 years of hard work I was placed 6th overall in my class and we went to an aerospace companies booth and the lady handing out applications said that unfortunately it was mandatory to only accept female applicants regardless of our performance and it turned out to be a sad day for me. ANyway just be babbling
#ElBastardo Haha, funny how these beta males only open their mouths here and never to me in real life. What happened bro? Feeling lonely? Go f somewhere else
Your profile says you're under 18. I'm going to assume you didn't read my take throughly or you didn't understand what I said. But I'll give you brownie points for trying!
I appreciate you taking your time to read my take. But please understand that I'm not a misogynist. If men praise me just for going against this, then they are biased and uneducated in this matter. But educated men will agree with me because they do understand what I'm saying and how bad this movement has become. I didn't write this to please men, I wrote this because I have just had enough of this bullshit. I didn't even know it would be this popular. Thanks for reading!
And you see all the girls here, proving my point exactly! How come the feminists here haven't answered my question as to why men's right aren't pointed out in feminism when feminism is about equality?
I don't think there's any reason to insult you because you're under 18. I'm barely older than that myself. So I don't know about mytake owner, but I do see posts from here from girls trying to do this. A lot.
@SovereignessofVamps I know. Wtf does my age have to do with anything? They insult me for disagreeing with them and try to pass off their myTakes as facts.
If you get butthurt from opinions on the Internet, then good luck to you in the real world! I have done my research and meant everything I wrote. And l used the term "ALL" as a figurative language, I'm obviously not talking about ALL feminists but got heated up in the moment and forgot to mention that... so oh well!
i'm not butthurt, just pretty amused. you're conflating all feminists with the extreme ones, and i've seen kat blaque, even she makes this distinction. if you don't, then you're not very smart, and i believe it's right to laugh at you.
I made this distinction in my mind. I'm not talking about all feminists but I forgot to mention this because I was heated up in the moment. You're not very smart if you believe that FEMINISM is about equality, it's about women being superior to men. EGALITARIANISM is about equality.
Rape culture as an expression of the patriarchy is, at this point, core feminist doctrine in any western academic environment. Saying this is not taking WBC as an example for what Christians believe, it's more like taking the pope as an example.
Oh my God I'm laughing at you! Do you hear yourself? Do you see what you fucking modern feminists are doing? Look at how you're defending yourself, by calling me names!
I just ask because a lot of my friends and family are Feminists, including my SO. I also live in one of the most Progressive and ultra-Liberal places in the U. S., so I'm surrounded by Feminists every day.
Problem is, I don't know anybody who is against Men's Rights advocacy. I don't know anyone who has ever said cat-calling is the same as being stoned to death. I don't know anybody who isn't inherently egalitarian.
What I'm saying is, actual Feminists don't really do most of the things you've talked about. I'm not saying it doesn't happen (there are a lot of stupid people in the world, after all) - I'm saying that I would think that since I'm surrounded by Feminists every day, if these things were inherent to the movement, I'd have seen it, and I haven't.
That makes me doubt whether or not you've really experienced these types of things from talking to people around you, or if your worldview is based on second-hand information.
@Gommers Yeah, not really. This post is making a point about the behavior of an entire movement, using the behavior of some extremists as proof. If the author was genuinely concerned about the viability of the movement, she would have called that out. As it is, it sounds like she's never actually met any normal Feminists, which make up the vast, vast majority of them. It also sounds like she isn't aware of the difference between Feminists from 40 years ago and modern Feminists today. It's huge.
I'm not talking about ALL feminists, I should have pointed this out but I was heated in the moment and forgot to mention this. I do believe that they are good feminists out there but they are also batshit crazy ones that deserve to be called out. I once saw one get upset at a driver for having a Hawaiian doll in his car as decoration stating that the driver was being rude to the culture. Today the west is a wonderful place to live as a woman so I will not complain about living in this part of the world, where I know I have the opportunities I wouldn't have if I was born and raised in South Asia. It just shocks me all the shit some feminists come up with nowadays.
Apart from being grammatically incorrect, this statement is a broad generalization that one could use to support any claim. In essence, it's a non-claim used to redirect attention from the fact that you have no other argument.
I personally know feminists who believe these things, and MRA lectures and meetings have literally been shut down by protesters blocking them and then pulling fire alarms where I live.
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Funny, a guy (obviously misogynist) pretending to be a woman, writing about "feminism" (actually about femi nazism), nothing "weird" about that, lol.
You're the second female to assume that I am a male and you didn't provide any evidence to prove this. Do you have any evidence or just opinions?
No, because you hide your true identity very well, just like any other troll.
You have no evidence therefore your argument is invalid to me.
You have only 4 followers, all of them are men. Of course, you don't have your photo as an avatar, so they are obviously not following you because of your attractive looks, one of them is real you - macho misogynist.
Just another example of how words get changed over time. Gay used to mean "happy" in the 1950s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAzl6-547J02:10-2:15
Great take agree modern feminism would make Elizabeth cady Stanton cringe
Lol I meant to say modern feminism rather than feminism as a whole. I had no idea my take would be this popular or else I would have taken my time to fully explain my views. Truthfully I just half-assed this but thanks for reading!
I agree with you but I only agree because I hate radical feminists. But there are many level headed real feminists out there that actually want positive change and care about the west and the countries that are third world and need feminism more.
As a side note I think feminists get a lot of unneeded hate because of the radical part that I believe just hate men and use feminism as a sort of scape goat. This leads to people thinking that the radical part is feminism but their own "cause" is quite different.
the radical feminism is the REAL feminism, it's the HONEST feminism. the rest is more like an ignorance is bliss feminism-reading the dictionary definition, not the reality.
@feminismisnarcissism radical feminism has different causes to real feminism, real feminism is largely about third world feminism but still recognizes there's problems in North America. Radical feminism has a louder voice because sadly drama and controversial shit these days is the loudest and people read into that more. Radical feminism is more of a hate for men than what the definition says, they want inequality ratehr than equality. There are more types of feminism than one actually, https://www.uah.edu/woolf/feminism_kinds.htm Radical feminist worked back in the 1960`s and 70`s but is no longer very accepted today.
I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks for reading!
that's a "no true scotsman fallacy" ie a false argument. that said, a movement is defined NOT BY ITS CLAIMED DEFINITION but by its behavior-which ends the argument.
if ANY FEMINISM was about equality then SOME feminism would address the largest disparities IN gender that exist today-all of which harm men and benefit women and all of which were CAUSED BY feminism as a whole
child support (80% disparity)
custody 7 to 1 in womens favor
criminal law - where women get sentences on average 1/20th of men for same crimes
other civil areas
domestic violence-70% is perpetuated BY WOMEN, yet they get 500+ shelters for DV in USA, men get 12?
college grants: Women are now 2/3 of the population getting degrees in college
gender mutilation: 70% in america is men, 0% is women yet we can't even CALL IT "mutilation" if it's a man/boy... even though circumcision removes 2/3 of the penis skin and 2/3 of the nerve endings and IS about decreasing pleasure
just a few examples
@feminismisnarcissism I read something awhile ago where feminists believe that they're still majorly marginalized compared to men so they need more of a specific lens, but that doesn't mean you can't be an "equalist". Also like I said you can't really generalize feminism because there are many categories now. So what you're arguing with me is that feminists today cannot worry about third world problems that have to do with women and not still worry about North America's problems without being labeled a radical feminist and their arguments would be invalid because of that? I don't think so.
again - behavior matters, nothing else. Find me ONE branch of feminism that addresses ONE of the disparities I mentioned. you must, they are the largest disparities there are-so they must be addressed SOMEWHERE or NO feminism is about equality. no way around that-and it's YOUR BURDEN. I've satisfied my burden with facts.
@feminismisnarcissism sigh like I said if you understood feminism at all they look through it as a SPECIFIC LENS aka mostly about females because they think they are majority marginalized today. Now is that necessarily false? Not really so that's the way they view it. But they also see it as you can still be a feminist and an "equalist". So you obviously didn't read what I said.
I'm anti-femi-nazi, but I'm not against real feminists.
I believe this is called a "true Scottsman falacy"
@RedHood7 No, it's not. The person who made the Take obviously does't know the difference between a Feminist and a Femi-Nazi... the same goes for you.
One is aggressive and the other is not. One is openly misandric, the other is too iliterate to find out most of what she's supporting is based on lies and she is actually asking for more privilege. One talks a lot, the other does nothing to stop them.
One is a monster, the other is the coward who allows the monster to grow. See? I know the difference, it just doesn't make them less despicable each in their own way.
@RedHood7 Not true, you obviously don't know anything outside the walls of patriarchal chauvinism, this is the proper description of differences between feminists and femi-nazis: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=feminazi
I'm pretty sure, you don't understand cultural appropriation.
Basing your opinions from "feminists" who wrote blogs, then you're about as "smart" as those online feminist bloggers lol
No, I believe I'm much smarter than those bloggers. As for cultural appropriation it's not a real thing. Here is one definition of cultural appropriation, "Taking intellectual property, traditional knowledge, cultural expressions, or artifacts from someone else's culture without permission" (Susan Scafidi). As you can see the definition alone is very foolish. Exactly whose permission do I need? It's not appropriation but appreciation. I don't understand cultural appropriation because it doesn't exists, another stupid rant from your modern day feminist.
@Tinerr wow you've really done you're homework
@CancerianMan81 I didn't even know my post would be this popular. If I had, then I would have clarified my views more. I just half-assed this last night lol
Cultural appropriation boils down to separating people in ethnic groups and actively pushing for segregation, while the minority groups that defend it actively enjoy western society.
I'm pretty sure, YOU don't understand cultural appropriation. I don't even understand it, that's how I know you don't. Go figure that one.
@Tinerr but you still came up with a few good points
that's got to count for something
@mostwomenshouldstfu so because you can't, I can't? Geez, you're about as dumb as a box of rocks.
Right there, right there, tool. You got played. Instead of arguing with those who made valid, AND accurate arguments against your dumb f***ing point, you chose to address some little fallacy I threw out and you still didn't disprove me. Takes one to know one, and all you can come up is some lame equivalent of "well, you're a stupid head". Try sitting the f*** down to nurse that little ego of yours.
you missed one: An equality movement can't list only ONE group in its title or its doomed to be a superiority (of that named group) movement.
As feminism continues to prove.
I'm open to more reasons. Thanks for reading!
https://imgur.com/jm7DC6u.jpg
Oooh, burn!
Men have never oppressed any genders, they were just born men, so putting it shortly, men are just being themselves :)
Feminism is good. But all those feminists dont have geniunine points and are stupid. I think most of them have political aspiration!!
you just entered the world. go get married, then divorced, maybe deal with domestic violence (70% perpetuated by women) and custody. then talk about it (you know, after you know something about it).
@feminismisnarcissism I am 23 and I have seen worse times. I have spent 14 months of my life in prison for nothing. And I believe it was a step taken by God to save my life. I could have been killed outside. Dont need your SHIT again.
so that's some magical being god, some etheral god, not mother nature dude. Mother nature would be more like a tornado that rips the wall off your cell and sets you free. what the hell are you talking about and why move your cheese so much?
strike last comment lol. And instead; this is about feminism, not your god... wtf?
#redherringfallacy and #appealtosympathy
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Opinion owner. You are correct about your opinion and don't let the down votes discourage you. You are young, but your on the right track
You can know about divorce laws and everything without having to live it, there are so many horror stories. I just wanted to say it's cool you are openminded!
Femism was much needed once but it is time for them to stop their "work" in the west and focus on real patriarchal societies, where women actually face horrible oppression.
i want two billion dollar for R and D
the subject : giving everyfeminist the ability to grow a penis
so when i say to her go fuck yourself
she can do it literally
If only there were more women like you. if only. yOU ARE A SMART GIRL AND KNOWS HER STUFF. I would date a girl like you in a heartbeat. Great mytake
*hugs you :)
Lol thank you for taking your time to read my take! I mean everything I said.
Honestly Thank YOU for writing this mytake. I agree with everything said. It takes me back to my college days when I graduated, we had various companies come and give applications to prospective students to get a job and i was so excited because after 4 years of hard work I was placed 6th overall in my class and we went to an aerospace companies booth and the lady handing out applications said that unfortunately it was mandatory to only accept female applicants regardless of our performance and it turned out to be a sad day for me. ANyway just be babbling
I'm very sorry to hear that. But eventually hard work pays off!
yes it does. I kept working hard and had good people supporting me
#ElBastardo Haha, funny how these beta males only open their mouths here and never to me in real life. What happened bro? Feeling lonely? Go f somewhere else
Incoming brownie points from guys.
Your profile says you're under 18. I'm going to assume you didn't read my take throughly or you didn't understand what I said. But I'll give you brownie points for trying!
Yeah, because my age has anything to do with my intellect.
Well I see how intellectual you are.
I read your myTake and I liked it, but what I am saying is that guys will praise you just because you are going against the feminist movement.
I appreciate you taking your time to read my take. But please understand that I'm not a misogynist. If men praise me just for going against this, then they are biased and uneducated in this matter. But educated men will agree with me because they do understand what I'm saying and how bad this movement has become. I didn't write this to please men, I wrote this because I have just had enough of this bullshit. I didn't even know it would be this popular. Thanks for reading!
You see all these guys on here? Proving my point exactly 😂
And you see all the girls here, proving my point exactly! How come the feminists here haven't answered my question as to why men's right aren't pointed out in feminism when feminism is about equality?
I don't think there's any reason to insult you because you're under 18. I'm barely older than that myself. So I don't know about mytake owner, but I do see posts from here from girls trying to do this. A lot.
@SovereignessofVamps I know. Wtf does my age have to do with anything? They insult me for disagreeing with them and try to pass off their myTakes as facts.
stereotypes and nothing else... men's rights and feminism are not equal.
and which feminists talk about rape culture? lol
Kat Blaque on YouTube... oh and BuzzFeed!
ok... isn't that like saying Westboro baptist church represent all christians everywhere? no. do some better research before you post stuff.
If you get butthurt from opinions on the Internet, then good luck to you in the real world! I have done my research and meant everything I wrote. And l used the term "ALL" as a figurative language, I'm obviously not talking about ALL feminists but got heated up in the moment and forgot to mention that... so oh well!
i'm not butthurt, just pretty amused. you're conflating all feminists with the extreme ones, and i've seen kat blaque, even she makes this distinction. if you don't, then you're not very smart, and i believe it's right to laugh at you.
I made this distinction in my mind. I'm not talking about all feminists but I forgot to mention this because I was heated up in the moment. You're not very smart if you believe that FEMINISM is about equality, it's about women being superior to men. EGALITARIANISM is about equality.
cool scene bro... i'm not bothred, just amused, that's all.
Rape culture as an expression of the patriarchy is, at this point, core feminist doctrine in any western academic environment. Saying this is not taking WBC as an example for what Christians believe, it's more like taking the pope as an example.
@asker you're clearly stupid if you believe what extreme feminists believe represents what all feminists believe haha.. dopey.
@0112358 no, you dummy. you're confusing third wave with second wave feminists.
The second wave ended decades ago and first wave is fully mainstream.
It's no longer necessary to say one is a feminist unless one is a third wave feminist.
What you're doing is equivalent to claiming someone is a sjw if they are against slavery.
I don't think you've ever met anyone studying women's studies.
Have you met a single feminist ever?
Yes.
Are you sure it wasn't a feminazi. We get confused quite often.
Feminazi... you'll have to define that.
im anti feminazi, but im a feminist. also, my moms a feminist, and she's been married 25+. yeah, don't bring your anti everything bullshit around here
i can say whatever i want, you can't, because you're WRONG
Oh my God I'm laughing at you! Do you hear yourself? Do you see what you fucking modern feminists are doing? Look at how you're defending yourself, by calling me names!
nice my take I'm not a feminist ether
I'm glad you enjoyed!
Do you actually know any Feminists?
Upon reading her post, if bet she knows plenty more than you do.
I believe the problem is she does know some feminists. I know feminists too. They're terrible.
Yes, I do.
I just ask because a lot of my friends and family are Feminists, including my SO. I also live in one of the most Progressive and ultra-Liberal places in the U. S., so I'm surrounded by Feminists every day.
Problem is, I don't know anybody who is against Men's Rights advocacy. I don't know anyone who has ever said cat-calling is the same as being stoned to death. I don't know anybody who isn't inherently egalitarian.
What I'm saying is, actual Feminists don't really do most of the things you've talked about. I'm not saying it doesn't happen (there are a lot of stupid people in the world, after all) - I'm saying that I would think that since I'm surrounded by Feminists every day, if these things were inherent to the movement, I'd have seen it, and I haven't.
That makes me doubt whether or not you've really experienced these types of things from talking to people around you, or if your worldview is based on second-hand information.
Actual members of any group are defined solely by the extremist members. Like it or not, that's how it works.
@Gommers Yeah, not really. This post is making a point about the behavior of an entire movement, using the behavior of some extremists as proof. If the author was genuinely concerned about the viability of the movement, she would have called that out. As it is, it sounds like she's never actually met any normal Feminists, which make up the vast, vast majority of them. It also sounds like she isn't aware of the difference between Feminists from 40 years ago and modern Feminists today. It's huge.
I'm not talking about ALL feminists, I should have pointed this out but I was heated in the moment and forgot to mention this. I do believe that they are good feminists out there but they are also batshit crazy ones that deserve to be called out. I once saw one get upset at a driver for having a Hawaiian doll in his car as decoration stating that the driver was being rude to the culture. Today the west is a wonderful place to live as a woman so I will not complain about living in this part of the world, where I know I have the opportunities I wouldn't have if I was born and raised in South Asia. It just shocks me all the shit some feminists come up with nowadays.
Your only as good as your worst member.
@Tinerr I can get behind that - the Hawaiian girl thing is dumb. There are stupid people in every movement that ruin things.
@Gommers "Your only as good as your worst member"
Apart from being grammatically incorrect, this statement is a broad generalization that one could use to support any claim. In essence, it's a non-claim used to redirect attention from the fact that you have no other argument.
I personally know feminists who believe these things, and MRA lectures and meetings have literally been shut down by protesters blocking them and then pulling fire alarms where I live.
@Gommers You can't use a cell phone, and I'm the dipshit? Hahahahaha
Yeah, you are.
@Gommers I can use a cell phone, though. So, that's a plus.
Assjacket. What are you saying about Hawaiian girls ?
Strike that one , just read it... sorry !!
This woman, she gets it. Completely agree.
Thanks for reading!
As an egalitarian, I agree wholeheartedly.
I'm glad you enjoyed!