Let's Bridge the Gender Divide

[shessoheavy]

I have used this site for 7 years. In that time I've seen the gender divide on here get much much worse. I owe this site and it's community a lot; I found out that I am asexual thanks to this site, which has been a huge turning point in my life.

I think I have more respect for women naturally because I do not view them sexually. I have always really admired femininity, I love women's fashion, I like how women usually communicate more openly, l like that you can be nice to a girl without it seeming too weird like with compliments and stuff. I don't think I have ever called a girl a bitch to her face, and hardly even ever behind her back. I have never made a move on a girl, never wanted to; though some have made a move on me. I have never had a girlfriend, I am not even sure if I want even an asexual girlfriend.

I'm not assertive around women and I don't want to be. I would rather just tag along and hang out with them like I'm just another girl. On the flip side, when I hang out with guys I like to be one of the guys. I feel like I can walk between both worlds relatively easily. Women have not always been nice to me either, usually teasing me for my lack of masculinity or questioning my asexuality. I don't think I am all that feminine myself but more so than the average straight guy, but I really hated feeling like had to try to be masculine before I came out.

My point of all of this that I am pretty neutral in this gender divide. More or less, I think that sex has a lot to do with it.

Women, if you want equality, then pay for a date every now and then. If you want men to respect you, respect yourself and other women. If you want to talk about how gender inequality sucks, then talk about how it sucks for men too and especially stop calling men pussies if they act "unmanly". If you want men to stop slut shaming, stop slut shaming other women and stop making fun of male virgins. If you want men to see you as more than a sex object, stop determining a man's masculinity or worth by women he could sleep with or if you would.

Men. Stop seeing women as mere sex objects, and stop judging them solely on their looks. Stop slut shaming, and stop player praising. Either a lot of hetero sex going on is good or bad; make up your damn mind. Stop considering being like a girl as an insult, that is inherently sexist. Stop paying for every date if you don't think you should. STOP THE VIOLENCE. Stop ignoring and downplaying women's issue just because men have issues too. Show women respect simply because they are fellow human beings.

I know there are things about both sides that I can't understand, but this is how I see it. Let's bridge the gender divide! 👫

[Nice_Guy_Last]

It's interesting, being bisexual, I necessarily look at men and women as equal in terms of sex as well. I feel bi/asexual have that unique vantage point, and I appreciate hearing the like-minded input.

I think that a lot of the gender gap is people making too much out of nothing. They have one negative experience and transition that onto an entire gender. We all really just need to take a chill pill and calm down.

[FallOutBoy2001]

How did I not know you were bi?

[shessoheavy]

Aces and bi/pans have a lot in common I think. I have several friends that are either bi or pans and we seem to share some of the same social experiences ironically. I feel like I typically relate more to bi/pan people than I do straight or gay people.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

@FallOutBoy2001 lol, I don't know. I even have quite a few posts about bisexuality, and me being such.

Guys or girls?
Yes

[Nice_Guy_Last]

It is weird, but it does make sense. Being on both sides or none at all is the definition of moderate.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

thanks for MHO!

[shessoheavy]

Yes sit

[shessoheavy]

Sir, lol

[Anonymous]

The thousand cock stare is hard to describe in words: you either recognize it or you don’t. I think the best way to describe it would be as a vapid lifelessness of a woman who’s trying her best to hide her slut past and post-wall desperation. It’s not surprising that they often resemble a recovering addict—which they are, in some ways. They also tend to look older than their real age as excessive alcohol and cocks destroyed their youth. I knew one gorgeous girl, who was the closest thing to a 10 I’ve seen in my life, hit the wall with visible TCS by the time she reached 24.

[93stepsawayfromhome]

— "I'm not assertive around women and I don't want to be. I would rather just tag along and hang out with them like I'm just another girl. On the flip side, when I hang out with guys I like to be one of the guys. I feel like I can walk between both worlds relatively easily."

There we go. I can relate to this so much. I'm definitely on the spectrum (and probably just asexual) and this is exactly how I am.

[Phoenix98]

Destroy feminism and destroy the men right's activists.

There you go divide fixed no more idiotic groups poisoning our children and young ones with nonsense.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

The most extreme speak the loudest. Welcome to sensationalism.

[Phoenix98]

@Nice_Guy_Last I wouldn't call it extreme but no one can deny that as long these groups exist there will always be a divide.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

It's extreme given the context of who belongs where. There is a much larger percentage of the population that doesn't identify as either than those who do, to the point that the groups are outliersand, by definition, extremes.

[Phoenix98]

@Nice_Guy_Last That is true they are more minority groups then anything else but even the tiniest wave can create a tsunami. And these groups have only created divide between our genders/sexes.

The 2nd best thing would be to educate our young again the poison that is the nonsense these groups spout, but unfortunately that may not be enough.

[shessoheavy]

It's tough, to me it seems like both groups would be on the same side of they were really about what they say they are. I could call myself a feminist, but really I just hate gender inequality; honestly to me I have more personal distain for the male side of the equation as I know all too well. There are some people doing good things to combat gender inequality on both sides, as there are extremes on both sides driving a wedge between the genders. If gender equality is really your goal then you got to acknowledge on both sets of problems.

[Phoenix98]

That's a big if though as we both know that both groups aren't at all about equality and in reality in the US those groups have no use because we have as much equality as there is ever going to be without it getting into ridiculous stuff.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

It seems that many walks of life are like this. Look at how divisive politics have become. Most people are moderates, but thanks to divisive rhetoric from extreme members of both groups, the most extreme views are the most commonly talked about and, subsequently, irrationally supported. That's how we got Aryan Hitler versus Lady Stalin for a presidential election.

[Phoenix98]

@Nice_Guy_Last *sigh* again Trump is nothing like Hitler please educate yourself before you open your mouth. FYI Hillary is closer to Hitler if anything and ironically it was signers that were singing for Hillary on the campaign trail were dressed in the waffen SS uniforms.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

And Trump supporters wore red armbands with a white circle with a blue T in the center. No, I think the comparisons are apt: neither Hillary nor Stalin never preached racist narratives to stir a disenfranchised populus into blind action, as Trump and Hitler did, but Hillary and Stalin did use promises of communist reform to defer attention away from a government that controls and sublimates its constituents.

[Phoenix98]

@Nice_Guy_Last Lol can you at all prove that? Not that it would matter anyway. And in case you've been living under a rock Trump has actually been making good on several of his promises including getting rid of corruption in the goverment and he's not even in office yet.

So there's nothing false or evil about what he's doing, like I said educate yourself and find the real truth before you open you mouth.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

My problem with Trump has never been that he's getting rid of corruption, it's that he's replacing them with the David Duke's of the world. He's unravelling years of work done to make America less divisive socially.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no bleeding heart liberal, I would have never voted for that criminal Hillary, and I didn't, but that he made it to the Republucan ticket is an aberration. There's a reason the KKK and the Neo Nazis supported him.

[Phoenix98]

@Nice_Guy_Last That's actually not true he's stated from the very beginning the main reason he ran in the first place was because of the corruption in office.

I mean the guy has done more then Obama has in 8 years and he's not even in office yet.

I beg you stop falling for the lies and read/listen to the truth.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

What, Trump propaganda? Even Fox News, the paragon of Republican propaganda, has been calling him out on lie after lie. Trump supporters are conspiracy theorists who use vague anecdotes and circular logic to push an agenda that they think will liberate them from the yoke of political corruption, when, in fact, Trump has been the authoritarian from the start. He has riled you up in aggressive condemnation of social progress so as to provide a scapegoat for the actions people like him have perpetrated.

You want to know who shipped jobs overseas? Trump. Who fought for lower wages and less workers rights? Trump. Who benefited from the housing crisis? He said it himself: Trump. You have been duped: your would be savior is the very person enslaving you.

I don't blame you. It's hard to focus when it seems like the sky is falling around you. But we cannot, and should not, ignore the facts: the economy has been gaining steam for 4 years now. Jobs are returning, house prices are climbing.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

To ignore that is patently ignorant. Sure, things have been coming to a head recently, what with racial tensions and social change. But these are good things: now we are talking about them, instead of just ignoring problems.

[Phoenix98]

@Nice_Guy_Last If you say so bud.

FYI it's not a conspiracy if it's true and all of our so called conspiracies were proven to actually be true.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

Like what? What was proven with Trump's election? That the election is rigged, thaf the media is rigged?

[Phoenix98]

@Nice_Guy_Last If you really need to ask then you weren't that informed to begin with.

[Nice_Guy_Last]

I can't know all of the conspiracies you believe in, now can I? What is it you think Donald Trump's election has done for American politics, because other than his selecting some cabinet members and his Supreme Court appointees, I don't know how his election could have possibly changed anything beyond the obvious "He's gonna be the President now."

[NexAngelus]

i just wanted to shoot a missle at both edges of that cliff hehe :)

[ASEXY]

This is well put. It would be nice if people would actually listen.

[Anonymous]

lets not bridge it.. women are women and men are men.. were different and always will be

[Dred1614returns]

Get rid of feminists and men's rights activists. Problem solved.

[mostwomenshouldstfu]

Bridge it with your d***

[WhaChaChaKing]

I already think this way.

[Adigelunar]

agree

[bruce3]

good

[MissSakura]

good one