Amen. Both act like they are entitled to dates, respect, and equal treatment when both groups act like petulant children. Nobody wants to date a psycho, which is how both groups tend to act. Cannot stand their constant whining. Take accountability and grow tf up!
I hate to break it to you but you are confusing MGTOW with MRAs.
you should go do some more research on MGTOW because we are not a direct opposition to feminism. we do things a lot more different. therefore your whole mytake is flawed.
I understand MGTOWs on this site very well since I have interacted with several of them. This is about bitterness causing problems in relationships and life, not how they interact with the political system. You should read the whole thing
this part is totally hypocritical. if a guy took you out and spend on you and then you decided to friendzone him or not reward him back for his effort then you obviously took advantage of him big time.
"Not all women are gold-diggers"
if not all women are gold diggers then why do almost every single one of them is very choosy about who they want to date/fuck? why do they fuck for status? why do they expect men to play by their rules yet never attempt to play by ours for once? and the list goes on
"Life experience: It's what you get when you didn't get what you wanted""
exactly! when I was younger I always wanted to live a pornographic life and fuck different women every weekend yet this is not what I got. instead I got stuck up bitches who tried to use me as walking credit cards, who ridiculed me for being different, who tried to send thugs after me and the list goes on
I don't make excuses, I didn't just wake up one day and decided to become mgtow. if women weren't as fucked up as they are maybe I wouldn't be making up what you call "excuses." either way there is no point in living up to women's expectations anyways.
"Misogyny and Misandry are both wrong"
no duh! but as long as one of them exist they will both be condone one way or another.
"Sometimes it is your fault"
yea its my fault that women can't stop being stuck up drama queens nowadays (sarcasm)
"You can fix your mentality"
my life experiences made me who I am today for a reason. so no I do not wish to change my mentality because changing it might either get me killed or become just another sucker slave of gynocentrism
I've only dated one man and he is now my boyfriend, so no I haven't taken advantage of men. No hypocrisy here
I was picky in choosing my boyfriend because I wanted a man who would treat me right and who will provide for and raise our future children. Anybody unable or unwilling to do that is of no value to me. I don't sleep around
Your blame on women is an excuse. If you picked​ better women, you wouldn't have had those negative experiences
Your views are extremely misogynistic
Not all women are stuck up or drama queens. Quit it with the absolutes
If you don't change your mentality, you will be bitter and unhappy for the rest of your life
well this is you. you can't speak in behalf of all women out there. lets not forget that you could be lying as well, not that I give a fuck
" was picky in choosing my boyfriend because I wanted a man who would treat me right and who will provide for and raise our future children"
yea that all pretty much confirms that you are a gold digger after all talk about hypocrisy and irony working as one.
"If you picked​ better women, you wouldn't have had those negative experiences"
dude are you serious? finding "better" women is nearly impossible nowadays, most women are all just a bunch of stuck ups looking for losers that can solve all their fucking problems and you just proved this one yourself. let's not forget that for some reason "better" women aren't attracted to me, I only catch the eyes of trifling drama queens for some apparent reason.
"Your views are extremely misogynistic"
no shit! would you say the same about black people talking about the KKK?
"Not all women are stuck up or drama queens. Quit it with the absolutes"
I'm gonna quit when I see it prove me wrong which from now it doesn't seem like it'll be happening.
"If you don't change your mentality, you will be bitter and unhappy for the rest of your life "
well guess what I don't give a flying fuck. I rather be bitter and unhappy for the rest of my life than to be another so called happy little sheep that gets walked on by everyone. because after all it is better to be alone than to be in bad company.
Lol. Someone always has to call me a gold digger. I work more than 40 hours a week and am 100% financially independent. If you think I'm a gold-digger, then you're a terrible judge at that
I wrote a section on that. If you have the same problem over and over again, there's an underlying issue starting with you. If you only attract drama queens, that's because women don't see you as someone who can handle them, they think you have a weak personality. There are just as many women who aren't relationship material as there are men. Finding someone who is isn't supposed to be easy
By becoming bitter and angry and giving up, you are allowing yourself to be walked on because you're never going to get over whatever insecurity you have when it comes to women
I'm a terrible judge yet you just confess that I wasn't the only one that has called you a digger. anyways what you make does not matter, if you are with a guy for any reasons that he is gonna provide for you then you are automatically a gold digger. either way if you make so damn much then why won't you just raise your kids by yourself? oh I think I know why, because besides being a gold digger you are also hypergamistic; no different than all these modern day bimbos
again you can't speak on behalf of all women out there and if you are then you just proved my point on all of you being the same. so I have a weak personality now? what are you a PUA now? but no you're wrong the reason why I attract drama is because for some reason they see me as something they can take advantage of which is what all of you look for in a relationship and you once again proved that point.
"By becoming bitter and angry and giving up, you are allowing yourself to be walked on because you're never going to get over whatever insecurity you have when it comes to women "
again I don't give a fuck about anything that relates to women and once again you're wrong. the only way you can actually prevent women from walking all over you is to show them that you don't give a fuck about them and that their miserable presence is never needed. and you best believe I'm talking from experience.
also did it really took you 2 days to come up with all of this?
The go-to insult for men on this site to call women who prefer traditional gender roles is "gold-digger." You obviously don't know what a gold-digger is and I am far from being one. I'm not with my boyfriend to steal his money and I've turned him down several times for wanting to pay my bills
Children who are raised by single parents have more problems in life. I want my future children to have both a mother and father in their lives, but also to have a good life. My boyfriend wants to provide for his future wife and children because he grew up in a country where his basic needs weren't met, and he doesn't want to have anybody he loves go through that. There is no gold-digging here and providing for someone doesn't make that someone a gold-digger
If you attract drama queens that's because something in your personality lets them know you're the kind of guy who will allow their drama
You care because you're making a huge deal about women
"traditional gender roles" my ass! you just want to follow those gender roles because they know you will be benefitting a lot out of them in the long run. oh yes I do and gold diggers aren't all about money, they fetch other things in men as well such as status and other free benefits.
yea finally we agree on something, children who are raised by single parents do grow up with issues especially those with single mothers. but there is a high probability that you may be bullshitting about the rest.
but no I don't allow any of their drama. on the contrary I don't date or even show interest in women for this same exact reason because again like I said on that meme I provided for you earlier. I'm a very peaceful person and please stop assuming that you know the reasons why I attract drama queens. again you're not a PUA and you definitely don't know me personally to make up such theories
and I'm not making a big deal on women. on the contrary you're the one making a big deal on MGTOW. such a big deal that you had to write a mytake about it. so as a proud MGTOW advocate I came here to defend ourselves because these people saved my life in many ways and here you are making negative assumptions about us, so yea I had to make a big deal about this at least
Well if you don't think children should be raised by single parents and you have a problem with traditional gender roles, how else do you expect children to be raised? You can't just stick them in a boarding school until they're 18 and expect them to be well-adjusted
My boyfriend has​ no status and I'm not after his money. I genuinely care about him as a person and enjoy spending time with him and hope to spend the rest of my life with him if things go well. He's mentioned that he could see us having children some day
Again, if you think I'm bullshitting, you're a terrible judge of character. That's probably where your main problems with women start (along with the misogyny)
If you continue to have the same problem, it's your fault
The MGTOWs on this site make a big deal about it by attacking women. I was addressing what I view to be a serious problem
I'm not making negative assumptions. If you read through MyTake I offered positive solutions at the end
I want children to be raised right but through acts of morality between both parents, not from some dumb, ignorant gender roles created by our society to benefit only one parent and drain the life away of the other.
dude you'll be surprise how many drama queens and gold diggers sound just like you.
"oh I want the best for my children!"
"I want to be a good parent!"
"I want to raise my children in a safe environment!"
"I want my children to have what I didn't have growing up!"
and the list goes on. yet ironically the same women who I've heard say these things are so far full of shit. they are the once who
frequently take off an abandon their own kids to go party
blame all their problems out on their children
enforce welfare and child support on their exes
use their welfare and child support money for themselves
and MGTOW guys do not attack women, we are not advocates of female violence and oppression. on the countrary women on this site just love provoking us and insinuating bullshit on us just like you did on this Mytake. till then your solutions here are useless because there is no way you're gonna convince us to change our mentality. we know what's good for us and we are not gonna change for anyone, especially women because we already know all the bad outcomes all of you bring to us in the long run
Neither my boyfriend or I is trying to "drain the life" out of the other one. There's absolutely nothing wrong with traditional gender roles as long as both parties agree to it
Your views on women have been completely skewed by your bitterness and anger. I'm​ not a gold-digger and I'm not looking for more money out of a marriage. I'm attractive enough that I could have done that a long time ago if I wanted to. But I don't want that. I want a good father who will stick around, raise, and provide for his children. My boyfriend makes good money that could support a family, but he isn't rich enough for a gold-digger to take anything from him
I would never abandon or blame a child for anything and I don't believe in welfare. I wouldn't ever get divorced, so there's no need for child support
I've been attacked by plenty of MGTOWs here, so y'all can agree to stop being misogynists and you won't have to posts like this. But if you continue to act like you have, nobody will pity your cause
you been attacked by MGTOW because you think you know it all and you pretty much revealed this by writing this mytake. if really want MGTOWs to stop attacking you then stop trying to tell us how we should think and act like you know what we been through in life. and once again your annoyance isn't gonna change how we think so stop trying to be a hero at writing bullshit mytakes for future references. this further convinces us that we really are worth your time.
I've been attacked because MGTOWs like you see real women like me as a threat because we don't fit into your misogynistic mold of what a woman is. As long as women like me exist who care about ourselves, out significant others, and (future) children, your excuses don't mean anything
I never claimed to know what you've been through in life. I've simply explained that your bitter way of griping about women isn't the proper way to handle it
Since you continue to think this way and treat well-intentioned users like me in such a manner, I'm going to have to continue to express my views on this subject. If you really want to go your own way, you're welcome to, but sticking around to bash women who haven't done anything to you isn't going your own way, moving on, or protecting yourself
blah blah blah get off your high horse already sis and come back when you put your foot above earth's surface once more. we MGTOW don't see silly little Disney princesses like you as a threat, on the contrary we see you as nothing but a joke and yea everybody is sweet little princess like you over the internet. so till then why don't you get your lazy ass off your computer and go live your Disney life instead of fantasizing it and talking it online because your excuses along with your views don't mean anything either.
again I don't give a shit about what proper way of handling things anyways, I don't need to take advice from a reject like you.
and go ahead continue to waste your time expressing your views like an idiot. just remember that you bashed us first by writing this mytake and once again I don't need to take advice like you on how I should go my way like you know what MGTOW is all about.
but till go ahead keep expressing your views and ideas, this just further convinces us that we are worth your time and we must be doing a great job if our actions caught your attention this far
I don't ride horses or think I'm a Disney princess when I'm not cosplaying as one. It seems I have been living my life a lot more than you as you seem to live on this site. Your insults only show how bad your bitterness is, especially since I haven't called you names or personally attacked you in the way you've attacked me here. And MGTOWs certainly were the ones who started this. They've been calling me names just like you for months because they can't handle someone who doesn't fit their sordid idea of vengeful women
You shouldn't call people idiots when you're the one being a fool. You do in fact "give a shit" because you wouldn't be on this tirade if you didn't. Your words would also be less crass if you weren't so bitter
Yes this uncalled-for​ assault on the opposite gender has caught my attention, but not for good reasons​ or the reasons you think it has
Nothing on this site is "worth my time" I just can't sleep and it kills time
We MGTOWs folks get called names too, go back and reread @MakingMeHiiiigh comments along with a few others. We been called names and been bullied all of our lives as well just because we choose not to put women on pedestals. a lot of us right now are also paying for crimes we never committed such as false rape, false paternity, child support and the list goes on.
So with that said how is it that you and everyone else expects us not to be hostile in many ways?
But once again we are not bullies, unlike feminists we do go around rubbing our views on people's faces so I'm not saying I'm siding with those MGTOW members who offended you but you must of done something that offended them if they were hostile, such as not understanding the pressure that we been going through thanks to our ignorant society that wants women to be put on pedestals one way or another
I never denied that you get called names, but I was not one of the people doing so. Calling people names is juvenile and a terrible way to convince someone to entertain your opinion
I was bullied my whole life for being short and a ginger, but I got over that, so don't expect any sympathy from me. There are ways of not putting women on a pedestal without bashing them and blaming them for your problems. Contrary to your belief, you are quite obsessed with women, you're just obsessed with destroying them, not finding one to love. That is a toxic mentality to have. I'm not trying to destroy the kids who bullied me growing up--they're all jealous of me now because of the person that I made myself become
False accusations are horrible, but not the norm. Focus your energy in court, not at innocent women
I understand the MGTOW movement and their cause. Their theory is fine, but their behavior is unacceptable. And they need to accept their own fault in it as well
well guess what I was bullied all my life as well. not just because I chose not to chase women but I'm mildly autistic and since elementary I been picked on because of that. they used to call me "the retard" because I was weird and had problems being social along with a speech impairment. I also used to get in a lot of fights do to this and I even witness my own mother get assaulted three times growing and coincidentally those three folks were women themselves. so yea I'm not expecting any sympathy from you or anybody else either because sympathy don't change shit. it won't erased my tormenting memories.
but no I never said I was a bullied out to destroy anybody. but when you live in a society where your gender gets blame for everything and the opposite gender is IS ALLOW to destroy your the life out of your gender and get away with it then you will probably understand where MGTOW is coming from.
@Idonthaveausername Wow. Just... wow. Who is attacking you? Who attacked you? I want names, you can't just say that someone is attacking you for disagreeing.
As far as understanding MGTOW, you have two talking to you currently and you are disqualifying everything said. You understand nothing except your own assumptions.
sounds like she has a bad victim/narcissist complex going on. she reminds me so much of that quote that goes...
"when you point fingers you got three pointing back at you"
this one thing that I've noticed a lot in common MGTOW haters. is like they all so damn quick to judge us but never seem to check themselves before they end up wrecking themselves. ironically she's been using "victim blaming" a lot since the start, something that all feminists especially the hardcore ones use a lot during an argument. in a Mytake where she is trying so damn hard to address us all
@Wwwyzzerdd This other guy has personally attacked me by calling me a stupid, gold-digging princess while you've been trying to pin a mental illness on me that I don't have. It's perfectly fine to disagree with me, but those are personal attacks, not disagreement
I haven't disqualified everything you've said. I've openly agreed the laws are terrible and there are bad apples out there looking to take advantage of people. What I disagree with is your bad behavior
I have my own problems, but I accept them and am trying to change them. I'm not "pointing fingers back" at myself because I'm not bitter towards all of men just because my dad was an abusive asshole. My boyfriend is a very kind man who would never hurt me, so I would never demonize him because of my father's bad behavior
When you're dealing with politics and government and laws, your statement is true. But when you're dealing with people on GAG and in accordance with my topic, your statement is false
That made no sense. he direct opposite of MGTOW is called a white knight (I'm sure you know what that is). Feminism is a political movement the same way MRA is.
I wasn't talking about opposites. I addressed this MyTake to two groups of people with similar victim mentalities when it comes to dating. If that doesn't make sense, you can actually read MyTake
It doesn't make sense because MGTOW isn't a victim mentality. It's a backlash and self-protective mentality. This take only makes sense when it comes to Feminism.
Only someone who feels like a victim feels the need to protect themselves against people who aren't trying to do them harm and only someone who has felt victimized would be able to cause backlash. Someone who doesn't feel victimized has no need for protection and nobody to exact backlash upon
If that doesn't make sense to you, I can recommend some reading comprehension tools and decent logic puzzles that will help you with connecting ideas and concepts
It doesn't make sense because that only applies to feminists. MGTOWs are protecting themselves against marriage/divorce and family laws that pretty much rape men financially.
For you to simply ignore that and class them along side with feminists doesn't make any sense.
I recommend the book Writer's Inc. for reading comprehension. It explains grammar and other writing concepts thoroughly and in a better way than any teacher can. Also reading books such as those written by Margaret Attwood, Ayn Rand, and Vladimir Nobakov will help you with connecting concepts and ideas as well as promote individual thought. I myself prefer Sudoku, but crossword puzzles are also helpful with improving one's logic
Right you avoid the rebuttal with ad hominem instead of defending your argument. I should have known better than to engage a pseudo-feminist. Later ✌️
IT is about attitudes towards men. Women always say men who are in MTGTOW are basement dweller etc. Go to a feminist rally and you will see edgy fat girls or flat chested ugly skinny girls...
@Analinda1999 Feminism has a lot to do with romantic relationships, or the lack thereof. A significant and increasing number of men, especially young men, are walking away from having anything to do with women because of changes to law that are the result of cucked politicians pandering to Feminists. For example, did you know that in Nottinghamshire and Yorkshire, in England, it can be a crime for a male to approach a female? Seriously. If, after the event, the female decides that she did not enjoy the way in which she was approach the male can be charged with an Orwellian hate crime. In US universities, young men can be expelled (and, thus, lose their entire futures and be branded as rapists forever) if a female makes an unsupported allegation of rape. A Star Chamber of academics proceeds on the basis that women never lie and that men were born guilty. There is no evidence, nothing that you would recognise as a fair judicial process. The only sane action for men is to avoid women.
no. feminism does not rise out of dissatisfaction with personal relationships. its philosophical political and ideological assertion. not personal romantic 'preference'.
Feminism has a huge impact on romantic relationships, because it tells women that men are an evil enemy and it causes men to walk away from having anything do do with women.
It's naive to think feminism has no affect on romantic relationships, especially since it essentially destroyed the family unit, blew up the job market, and made it nearly impossible to support a family on a single income. Yes I enjoy having the right to vote and equality is great, but the cost of women's rights was our romantic relationships and families
Now I'm not bashing feminism in this MyTake, I clearly addressed this to "hardcore" feminists. I am addressing this to the extremists such as the guy arguing with you. He's a misogynist "because of feminism" so don't fool yourself into thinking it has no affect on romantic relationships
I agree lol. Women have given me a good enough reason. I don't hate all women though there are some that are great fun. But this far left shit.. i mean netflix is filled with cringy shows about ''women power'' like Glow, girl boss... all sorts of crap. Feminism has affected many things... most of which not for the greater good.
@TheUsername27 Right? I generally dislike politics mixed with entertainment. I only want to hear about politics when I'm watching the news to hear about politics
I feel like you just putting most of these people you consider extremists under one big category of dating. A bitter person is not an extremist they are just bitter either they grow out of it or keep being a loser. Someone who thinks that all women are whores are different from some extremists who want to kill people for their gender. Also, male extremists reasoning behind their hatred of women is mostly having to do in divorces women get more advantages than males (when they are being logical) the other kind are the ones who wish rape and death on women. Not a bad take just need to not make a big general bias on these extremists with what you're saying.
Absolutely not. This MyTake was addressed specifically to the MGTOWs and hardcore feminists on this site, not pedophiles in real life. That's​ a completely different subject. I believe all pedophiles should be given the death penalty along with others who are unreformable and criminally insane
I'm aware there are people with different degrees of extremism. Individuals will know what part of this Take applies to them
That's not the point I made with the pedo example you blaming all victims aka extremists fault for their experiences. Lets face it to them their reasoning makes sense since they experience that, now for you to say its their fault for it. You going to get a lot of extremists on your back and beside regardless if they are extremists or not its not their fault for getting taken advantage. So you shouldn't be making claims like that if you don't want someone pointing out how there are people like children who get taken advantage of.
There's always two sides to something. Nobody is completely innocent. Everyone is guilty of their part. Not accepting your faults will get you nowhere in life
Yes pedophiles are horrible and to blame for their own actions, but this isn't about pedophiles
You can still apply that to pedophiles and say its the kids fault for getting molested right? So maybe you shouldn't make claims that anyone can easy point flaws in it. and no its not everyone fault for other people's behaviour. Stop excusing assholes for being assholes.
Thank you. This is only the second one I've written and they've both been promoted. I'd like to be able to write more, but I don't have WiFi for my laptop at home
Again, this MyTake was not about politics. I addressed this to two communities on GAG who have similar failed ideologies on dating and make it a practice to attack the opposite gender online. If you want to talk about politics, you're welcome to write your own Take
you dont realize that mgtow is a lifestyle like how to deal with living with cancer where as feminism is about how to change the legal and social situation to conform to your likes. there is a huge difference.
This isn't about the "lifestyle." This is to tell guys who think it's okay to bash women online who've done nothing to them why they need to stop being so bitter and blaming women for their problems. Feminists on this site also blame men for their problems, so I addressed it to them as well. If you read MyTake, you would understand that
Men on this site promote a toxic mindset; women on this site promote a toxic mindset. Neither of the groups I addressed this to are sticking up for anything or anybody except their own bitterness and failures. There's nothing worth commending about misogyny and misandry
50 years ago women were saying the exact same thing but with the genders switched
If you go online to bash anyone, it is entirely your fault and nobody else's. Both men and women played a part in this pathetic gender war we see today, not mainly women and not mainly men
If men want women to change, then men have to treat women right. If women want men to change, then they have to treat men right. Nobody is going to get anywhere blaming anybody but themselves. Doing otherwise only breeds hostility and extremism
No I'm not wrong. Both men and women need to change if they want to put this gender war to rest. Blaming one side for a of the problems only creates anger and resentment
Again​, this isn't about laws or politics. If that's something you're concerned about, you can go deal work it, but this is not the proper forum
I'm not MGTOW but it's hard to sit back and watch feminism unfairly influence, manipulate and dictate their views in politics, public education, Hollywood and the law. Guys from my dads generation wrote it off as annoyance. However ignoring the problem didn't work.
@somewheresomeway If you want to fix the laws, go ahead, but you're not going to fix anything by demonizing the opposite gender online. If you want the laws to change, you have to get petitions signed and submit bills to your representatives. I write feminists off as an annoyance and that's​worked pretty well for me so far
well these "feminists" are getting heard. They are getting in front of cameras. They have political power. They have INFLUENCE is the name of "equality".
MGTOW means "Men going their own way". It's a rejection of government, public education and media misandric influence. Do I agree with MGTOW? On some things yes, but others no. But it has nowhere near the sheer power and hateful influence/impact that 3rd wave feminism has. Professors are spewing feminist garbage while getting TAXPAYER MONEY to enable them to do so.
@somewheresomeway I'm not. This has nothing to do with politics. This is about bitterness and hatred keeping them from living fulfilling lives and how their negative behavior on sites like this is only making things worse
I agree that complaining and whining is getting old. Being I know that crying about "inequality" makes me look pathetic.
But when it comes to radical feminism I just like to write them off as misguided, bitter asinine women. But that's what my father's generation did. Ignore them. Did it work? Nope. Look at what they have done to our culture. That's why I'm debating if it really is better to openly fight back (MGTOW).
@somewheresomeway It's better to defend your stance and fight back honestly. Martin Luther King held peaceful protests, so his point was finally heard. If he had been violent or demonized white men, then white men would never have sympathized with him
No we shouldn't give into the whims of hardcore feminists or MGTOWs, but there are better ways of fighting them than insulting them. And insulting people who aren't a part of those hate groups is only going to make you look bad
I wanted to believe that for the longest time. The old saying is "what you resist persists". But again it wasn't like my dads generations was marching around and screaming at people with MGTOW signs (although feminists sure as hell were). I don't believe passive resistance works anymore. Feminism has inflitrated the very structure of our western society.
Am I going to join some MGTOW organization? Most likely not. But the animosity towards a growing misandric society is growing and I'm not the only one. And even some women agree with me about this crap.
@somewheresomeway You can still have an aggressive resistance without being violent or belittling. If you cross that line you're no longer a resistance and turning yourself into an enemy
It's acceptable to have that animosity towards the hardcore feminists fort things such as glorifying false rape claims, but maintaining that animosity towards people who don't agree with them will also put you in the same category. The whole fighting fire with fire theory will only turn you into fire, and the rest of society will have to find a bucket of water somewhere to put you out with. You will go down in history as the same as feminists
@somewheresomeway My experience on this site is MGTOWs calling me a prostitute even though I'm a virgin and a gold-digger even though I'd never even been on a date until a couple months ago. I certainly don't use men like they claim and I believe marriage is forever, so I'd never divorce someone I married unless he cheated on or hit me
That's your example of aggression. If that were in real life, they probably would've been violent to o
No that's not the question. That has nothing to do with this MyTake and is completely off topic. If you want to ask that question, you can ask it somewhere else
I completely agree with your take that radicalism is stupid and even dangerous. But feminism is a real establishment that has done real damage to the traditional family, male self esteem and gender relations in general. MGTOW is only a recent idea with very little power.
I'm sorry about those morons that called you a prostitute/gold digger. I don't just assume that about women until I see their actions.
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Yep, social contract.
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Amen. Both act like they are entitled to dates, respect, and equal treatment when both groups act like petulant children. Nobody wants to date a psycho, which is how both groups tend to act. Cannot stand their constant whining. Take accountability and grow tf up!
This is perfect, it perfectly represents the way I feel on these topics. Great take :)
I hate to break it to you but you are confusing MGTOW with MRAs.
you should go do some more research on MGTOW because we are not a direct opposition to feminism. we do things a lot more different. therefore your whole mytake is flawed.
I understand MGTOWs on this site very well since I have interacted with several of them. This is about bitterness causing problems in relationships and life, not how they interact with the political system. You should read the whole thing
Did you just assume my social movement?
@Idonthaveausername your premises here are still flawed.
"Nobody took advantage of you"
this part is totally hypocritical. if a guy took you out and spend on you and then you decided to friendzone him or not reward him back for his effort then you obviously took advantage of him big time.
"Not all women are gold-diggers"
if not all women are gold diggers then why do almost every single one of them is very choosy about who they want to date/fuck? why do they fuck for status? why do they expect men to play by their rules yet never attempt to play by ours for once? and the list goes on
"Life experience: It's what you get when you didn't get what you wanted""
exactly! when I was younger I always wanted to live a pornographic life and fuck different women every weekend yet this is not what I got. instead I got stuck up bitches who tried to use me as walking credit cards, who ridiculed me for being different, who tried to send thugs after me and the list goes on
"Take responsibility instead of making excuses"
I don't make excuses, I didn't just wake up one day and decided to become mgtow. if women weren't as fucked up as they are maybe I wouldn't be making up what you call "excuses." either way there is no point in living up to women's expectations anyways.
"Misogyny and Misandry are both wrong"
no duh! but as long as one of them exist they will both be condone one way or another.
"Sometimes it is your fault"
yea its my fault that women can't stop being stuck up drama queens nowadays (sarcasm)
"You can fix your mentality"
my life experiences made me who I am today for a reason. so no I do not wish to change my mentality because changing it might either get me killed or become just another sucker slave of gynocentrism
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I've only dated one man and he is now my boyfriend, so no I haven't taken advantage of men. No hypocrisy here
I was picky in choosing my boyfriend because I wanted a man who would treat me right and who will provide for and raise our future children. Anybody unable or unwilling to do that is of no value to me. I don't sleep around
Your blame on women is an excuse. If you picked​ better women, you wouldn't have had those negative experiences
Your views are extremely misogynistic
Not all women are stuck up or drama queens. Quit it with the absolutes
If you don't change your mentality, you will be bitter and unhappy for the rest of your life
well this is you. you can't speak in behalf of all women out there. lets not forget that you could be lying as well, not that I give a fuck
" was picky in choosing my boyfriend because I wanted a man who would treat me right and who will provide for and raise our future children"
yea that all pretty much confirms that you are a gold digger after all talk about hypocrisy and irony working as one.
"If you picked​ better women, you wouldn't have had those negative experiences"
dude are you serious? finding "better" women is nearly impossible nowadays, most women are all just a bunch of stuck ups looking for losers that can solve all their fucking problems and you just proved this one yourself. let's not forget that for some reason "better" women aren't attracted to me, I only catch the eyes of trifling drama queens for some apparent reason.
"Your views are extremely misogynistic"
no shit! would you say the same about black people talking about the KKK?
"Not all women are stuck up or drama queens. Quit it with the absolutes"
I'm gonna quit when I see it prove me wrong which from now it doesn't seem like it'll be happening.
"If you don't change your mentality, you will be bitter and unhappy for the rest of your life "
well guess what I don't give a flying fuck. I rather be bitter and unhappy for the rest of my life than to be another so called happy little sheep that gets walked on by everyone. because after all it is better to be alone than to be in bad company.
Lol. Someone always has to call me a gold digger. I work more than 40 hours a week and am 100% financially independent. If you think I'm a gold-digger, then you're a terrible judge at that
I wrote a section on that. If you have the same problem over and over again, there's an underlying issue starting with you. If you only attract drama queens, that's because women don't see you as someone who can handle them, they think you have a weak personality. There are just as many women who aren't relationship material as there are men. Finding someone who is isn't supposed to be easy
By becoming bitter and angry and giving up, you are allowing yourself to be walked on because you're never going to get over whatever insecurity you have when it comes to women
I'm a terrible judge yet you just confess that I wasn't the only one that has called you a digger. anyways what you make does not matter, if you are with a guy for any reasons that he is gonna provide for you then you are automatically a gold digger. either way if you make so damn much then why won't you just raise your kids by yourself? oh I think I know why, because besides being a gold digger you are also hypergamistic; no different than all these modern day bimbos
again you can't speak on behalf of all women out there and if you are then you just proved my point on all of you being the same. so I have a weak personality now? what are you a PUA now? but no you're wrong the reason why I attract drama is because for some reason they see me as something they can take advantage of which is what all of you look for in a relationship and you once again proved that point.
"By becoming bitter and angry and giving up, you are allowing yourself to be walked on because you're never going to get over whatever insecurity you have when it comes to women "
again I don't give a fuck about anything that relates to women and once again you're wrong. the only way you can actually prevent women from walking all over you is to show them that you don't give a fuck about them and that their miserable presence is never needed. and you best believe I'm talking from experience.
also did it really took you 2 days to come up with all of this?
The go-to insult for men on this site to call women who prefer traditional gender roles is "gold-digger." You obviously don't know what a gold-digger is and I am far from being one. I'm not with my boyfriend to steal his money and I've turned him down several times for wanting to pay my bills
Children who are raised by single parents have more problems in life. I want my future children to have both a mother and father in their lives, but also to have a good life. My boyfriend wants to provide for his future wife and children because he grew up in a country where his basic needs weren't met, and he doesn't want to have anybody he loves go through that. There is no gold-digging here and providing for someone doesn't make that someone a gold-digger
If you attract drama queens that's because something in your personality lets them know you're the kind of guy who will allow their drama
You care because you're making a huge deal about women
No, I've been living in the real world
"traditional gender roles" my ass! you just want to follow those gender roles because they know you will be benefitting a lot out of them in the long run. oh yes I do and gold diggers aren't all about money, they fetch other things in men as well such as status and other free benefits.
yea finally we agree on something, children who are raised by single parents do grow up with issues especially those with single mothers. but there is a high probability that you may be bullshitting about the rest.
but no I don't allow any of their drama. on the contrary I don't date or even show interest in women for this same exact reason because again like I said on that meme I provided for you earlier. I'm a very peaceful person and please stop assuming that you know the reasons why I attract drama queens. again you're not a PUA and you definitely don't know me personally to make up such theories
and I'm not making a big deal on women. on the contrary you're the one making a big deal on MGTOW. such a big deal that you had to write a mytake about it. so as a proud MGTOW advocate I came here to defend ourselves because these people saved my life in many ways and here you are making negative assumptions about us, so yea I had to make a big deal about this at least
Well if you don't think children should be raised by single parents and you have a problem with traditional gender roles, how else do you expect children to be raised? You can't just stick them in a boarding school until they're 18 and expect them to be well-adjusted
My boyfriend has​ no status and I'm not after his money. I genuinely care about him as a person and enjoy spending time with him and hope to spend the rest of my life with him if things go well. He's mentioned that he could see us having children some day
Again, if you think I'm bullshitting, you're a terrible judge of character. That's probably where your main problems with women start (along with the misogyny)
If you continue to have the same problem, it's your fault
The MGTOWs on this site make a big deal about it by attacking women. I was addressing what I view to be a serious problem
I'm not making negative assumptions. If you read through MyTake I offered positive solutions at the end
I want children to be raised right but through acts of morality between both parents, not from some dumb, ignorant gender roles created by our society to benefit only one parent and drain the life away of the other.
dude you'll be surprise how many drama queens and gold diggers sound just like you.
"oh I want the best for my children!"
"I want to be a good parent!"
"I want to raise my children in a safe environment!"
"I want my children to have what I didn't have growing up!"
and the list goes on. yet ironically the same women who I've heard say these things are so far full of shit. they are the once who
frequently take off an abandon their own kids to go party
blame all their problems out on their children
enforce welfare and child support on their exes
use their welfare and child support money for themselves
and of course the list goes on
and MGTOW guys do not attack women, we are not advocates of female violence and oppression. on the countrary women on this site just love provoking us and insinuating bullshit on us just like you did on this Mytake. till then your solutions here are useless because there is no way you're gonna convince us to change our mentality. we know what's good for us and we are not gonna change for anyone, especially women because we already know all the bad outcomes all of you bring to us in the long run
Neither my boyfriend or I is trying to "drain the life" out of the other one. There's absolutely nothing wrong with traditional gender roles as long as both parties agree to it
Your views on women have been completely skewed by your bitterness and anger. I'm​ not a gold-digger and I'm not looking for more money out of a marriage. I'm attractive enough that I could have done that a long time ago if I wanted to. But I don't want that. I want a good father who will stick around, raise, and provide for his children. My boyfriend makes good money that could support a family, but he isn't rich enough for a gold-digger to take anything from him
I would never abandon or blame a child for anything and I don't believe in welfare. I wouldn't ever get divorced, so there's no need for child support
I've been attacked by plenty of MGTOWs here, so y'all can agree to stop being misogynists and you won't have to posts like this. But if you continue to act like you have, nobody will pity your cause
you been attacked by MGTOW because you think you know it all and you pretty much revealed this by writing this mytake. if really want MGTOWs to stop attacking you then stop trying to tell us how we should think and act like you know what we been through in life. and once again your annoyance isn't gonna change how we think so stop trying to be a hero at writing bullshit mytakes for future references. this further convinces us that we really are worth your time.
I've been attacked because MGTOWs like you see real women like me as a threat because we don't fit into your misogynistic mold of what a woman is. As long as women like me exist who care about ourselves, out significant others, and (future) children, your excuses don't mean anything
I never claimed to know what you've been through in life. I've simply explained that your bitter way of griping about women isn't the proper way to handle it
Since you continue to think this way and treat well-intentioned users like me in such a manner, I'm going to have to continue to express my views on this subject. If you really want to go your own way, you're welcome to, but sticking around to bash women who haven't done anything to you isn't going your own way, moving on, or protecting yourself
blah blah blah get off your high horse already sis and come back when you put your foot above earth's surface once more. we MGTOW don't see silly little Disney princesses like you as a threat, on the contrary we see you as nothing but a joke and yea everybody is sweet little princess like you over the internet. so till then why don't you get your lazy ass off your computer and go live your Disney life instead of fantasizing it and talking it online because your excuses along with your views don't mean anything either.
again I don't give a shit about what proper way of handling things anyways, I don't need to take advice from a reject like you.
and go ahead continue to waste your time expressing your views like an idiot. just remember that you bashed us first by writing this mytake and once again I don't need to take advice like you on how I should go my way like you know what MGTOW is all about.
but till go ahead keep expressing your views and ideas, this just further convinces us that we are worth your time and we must be doing a great job if our actions caught your attention this far
I don't ride horses or think I'm a Disney princess when I'm not cosplaying as one. It seems I have been living my life a lot more than you as you seem to live on this site. Your insults only show how bad your bitterness is, especially since I haven't called you names or personally attacked you in the way you've attacked me here. And MGTOWs certainly were the ones who started this. They've been calling me names just like you for months because they can't handle someone who doesn't fit their sordid idea of vengeful women
You shouldn't call people idiots when you're the one being a fool. You do in fact "give a shit" because you wouldn't be on this tirade if you didn't. Your words would also be less crass if you weren't so bitter
Yes this uncalled-for​ assault on the opposite gender has caught my attention, but not for good reasons​ or the reasons you think it has
Nothing on this site is "worth my time" I just can't sleep and it kills time
We MGTOWs folks get called names too, go back and reread @MakingMeHiiiigh comments along with a few others. We been called names and been bullied all of our lives as well just because we choose not to put women on pedestals. a lot of us right now are also paying for crimes we never committed such as false rape, false paternity, child support and the list goes on.
So with that said how is it that you and everyone else expects us not to be hostile in many ways?
But once again we are not bullies, unlike feminists we do go around rubbing our views on people's faces so I'm not saying I'm siding with those MGTOW members who offended you but you must of done something that offended them if they were hostile, such as not understanding the pressure that we been going through thanks to our ignorant society that wants women to be put on pedestals one way or another
Still don't believe then go watch The Red Pill movie, that should enlighten you a little on how fucked up our society is to us
I never denied that you get called names, but I was not one of the people doing so. Calling people names is juvenile and a terrible way to convince someone to entertain your opinion
I was bullied my whole life for being short and a ginger, but I got over that, so don't expect any sympathy from me. There are ways of not putting women on a pedestal without bashing them and blaming them for your problems. Contrary to your belief, you are quite obsessed with women, you're just obsessed with destroying them, not finding one to love. That is a toxic mentality to have. I'm not trying to destroy the kids who bullied me growing up--they're all jealous of me now because of the person that I made myself become
False accusations are horrible, but not the norm. Focus your energy in court, not at innocent women
I understand the MGTOW movement and their cause. Their theory is fine, but their behavior is unacceptable. And they need to accept their own fault in it as well
well guess what I was bullied all my life as well. not just because I chose not to chase women but I'm mildly autistic and since elementary I been picked on because of that. they used to call me "the retard" because I was weird and had problems being social along with a speech impairment. I also used to get in a lot of fights do to this and I even witness my own mother get assaulted three times growing and coincidentally those three folks were women themselves. so yea I'm not expecting any sympathy from you or anybody else either because sympathy don't change shit. it won't erased my tormenting memories.
but no I never said I was a bullied out to destroy anybody. but when you live in a society where your gender gets blame for everything and the opposite gender is IS ALLOW to destroy your the life out of your gender and get away with it then you will probably understand where MGTOW is coming from.
again I never attacked any innocent woman, I only attack those who attack me first. male or female
If it isn't making you bitter, then you should be able to get over it
You attack all women with your incorrect assumptions and hostility. Stop blaming women for your problems in life
when have I attacked women?
@Idonthaveausername Wow. Just... wow. Who is attacking you? Who attacked you? I want names, you can't just say that someone is attacking you for disagreeing.
As far as understanding MGTOW, you have two talking to you currently and you are disqualifying everything said. You understand nothing except your own assumptions.
@Wwwyzzerdd that's exactly what I'm saying!
sounds like she has a bad victim/narcissist complex going on. she reminds me so much of that quote that goes...
"when you point fingers you got three pointing back at you"
this one thing that I've noticed a lot in common MGTOW haters. is like they all so damn quick to judge us but never seem to check themselves before they end up wrecking themselves. ironically she's been using "victim blaming" a lot since the start, something that all feminists especially the hardcore ones use a lot during an argument. in a Mytake where she is trying so damn hard to address us all
@Wwwyzzerdd
This other guy has personally attacked me by calling me a stupid, gold-digging princess while you've been trying to pin a mental illness on me that I don't have. It's perfectly fine to disagree with me, but those are personal attacks, not disagreement
I haven't disqualified everything you've said. I've openly agreed the laws are terrible and there are bad apples out there looking to take advantage of people. What I disagree with is your bad behavior
I have my own problems, but I accept them and am trying to change them. I'm not "pointing fingers back" at myself because I'm not bitter towards all of men just because my dad was an abusive asshole. My boyfriend is a very kind man who would never hurt me, so I would never demonize him because of my father's bad behavior
But men are the most discriminated against now! Boo hoo!
Typical man-hating mangina
@Love_Is_Eternal https://data.whicdn.com/images/70798576/large.jpg
Looks like you're on your period again
When did Kreiger become a guru?
@Wwwyzzerdd I used Pigly 4 as a bribe to the devs.
A agree MGTOW and Feminists are both dumb asses
*I agree
Thank you. Unfortunately this is an epidemic on GAG and they've gotten pretty aggressive towards me lately, so I had I write this
Lol I believe it they are crazy
Good take. I agree with it.
Thank you
You're welcome!
Give that girl a MEDAL !!!
Lol thank you
Feminism and MGTOW are different. Two separate coins, not two sides of the same coin. The opposite side to feminism us MRA.
* is
When you're dealing with politics and government and laws, your statement is true. But when you're dealing with people on GAG and in accordance with my topic, your statement is false
That made no sense. he direct opposite of MGTOW is called a white knight (I'm sure you know what that is). Feminism is a political movement the same way MRA is.
I wasn't talking about opposites. I addressed this MyTake to two groups of people with similar victim mentalities when it comes to dating. If that doesn't make sense, you can actually read MyTake
It doesn't make sense because MGTOW isn't a victim mentality. It's a backlash and self-protective mentality. This take only makes sense when it comes to Feminism.
"Backlash" and "self-protective" are synonymous for "victimized" in this context
What? No they're not. Explain to me how they are...
You're welcome to read MyTake if you're confused
Already read it. Now explain yourself. I'll wait...
Only someone who feels like a victim feels the need to protect themselves against people who aren't trying to do them harm and only someone who has felt victimized would be able to cause backlash. Someone who doesn't feel victimized has no need for protection and nobody to exact backlash upon
If that doesn't make sense to you, I can recommend some reading comprehension tools and decent logic puzzles that will help you with connecting ideas and concepts
It doesn't make sense because that only applies to feminists. MGTOWs are protecting themselves against marriage/divorce and family laws that pretty much rape men financially.
For you to simply ignore that and class them along side with feminists doesn't make any sense.
I recommend the book Writer's Inc. for reading comprehension. It explains grammar and other writing concepts thoroughly and in a better way than any teacher can. Also reading books such as those written by Margaret Attwood, Ayn Rand, and Vladimir Nobakov will help you with connecting concepts and ideas as well as promote individual thought. I myself prefer Sudoku, but crossword puzzles are also helpful with improving one's logic
Right you avoid the rebuttal with ad hominem instead of defending your argument. I should have known better than to engage a pseudo-feminist. Later ✌️
I already explained it to you an you chose not to understand it. That is your choosing and your fault
Obviously I'm not a feminist. I prefer traditional gender roles any day
Years if therapy has made you wise
Thank you. I encourage anybody to seek therapy even if they're happy with their lives because it helps them understand themselves and others better
Yes please destroy them all.
But what if I feel women are slowing me down from what I really want?
Then you have to be smart enough to figure out how to not let them slow you down
Ignoring them won't work, that's for sure.
feminism has nothing to do with romantic relationships.
IT is about attitudes towards men. Women always say men who are in MTGTOW are basement dweller etc. Go to a feminist rally and you will see edgy fat girls or flat chested ugly skinny girls...
@Analinda1999
Feminism has a lot to do with romantic relationships, or the lack thereof.
A significant and increasing number of men, especially young men, are walking away from having anything to do with women because of changes to law that are the result of cucked politicians pandering to Feminists.
For example, did you know that in Nottinghamshire and Yorkshire, in England, it can be a crime for a male to approach a female? Seriously. If, after the event, the female decides that she did not enjoy the way in which she was approach the male can be charged with an Orwellian hate crime.
In US universities, young men can be expelled (and, thus, lose their entire futures and be branded as rapists forever) if a female makes an unsupported allegation of rape. A Star Chamber of academics proceeds on the basis that women never lie and that men were born guilty. There is no evidence, nothing that you would recognise as a fair judicial process.
The only sane action for men is to avoid women.
no. feminism does not rise out of dissatisfaction with personal relationships. its philosophical political and ideological assertion. not personal romantic 'preference'.
Feminism has a huge impact on romantic relationships, because it tells women that men are an evil enemy and it causes men to walk away from having anything do do with women.
@cth96190 Exactly.
It's naive to think feminism has no affect on romantic relationships, especially since it essentially destroyed the family unit, blew up the job market, and made it nearly impossible to support a family on a single income. Yes I enjoy having the right to vote and equality is great, but the cost of women's rights was our romantic relationships and families
Now I'm not bashing feminism in this MyTake, I clearly addressed this to "hardcore" feminists. I am addressing this to the extremists such as the guy arguing with you. He's a misogynist "because of feminism" so don't fool yourself into thinking it has no affect on romantic relationships
I agree lol. Women have given me a good enough reason. I don't hate all women though there are some that are great fun. But this far left shit.. i mean netflix is filled with cringy shows about ''women power'' like Glow, girl boss... all sorts of crap. Feminism has affected many things... most of which not for the greater good.
@TheUsername27
Right? I generally dislike politics mixed with entertainment. I only want to hear about politics when I'm watching the news to hear about politics
So you telling me a teen girl who "dating" her teacher is not being taken advantage of? you can't apply everything to one type of situation you know.
I feel like you just putting most of these people you consider extremists under one big category of dating. A bitter person is not an extremist they are just bitter either they grow out of it or keep being a loser. Someone who thinks that all women are whores are different from some extremists who want to kill people for their gender. Also, male extremists reasoning behind their hatred of women is mostly having to do in divorces women get more advantages than males (when they are being logical) the other kind are the ones who wish rape and death on women. Not a bad take just need to not make a big general bias on these extremists with what you're saying.
Absolutely not. This MyTake was addressed specifically to the MGTOWs and hardcore feminists on this site, not pedophiles in real life. That's​ a completely different subject. I believe all pedophiles should be given the death penalty along with others who are unreformable and criminally insane
I'm aware there are people with different degrees of extremism. Individuals will know what part of this Take applies to them
That's not the point I made with the pedo example you blaming all victims aka extremists fault for their experiences. Lets face it to them their reasoning makes sense since they experience that, now for you to say its their fault for it. You going to get a lot of extremists on your back and beside regardless if they are extremists or not its not their fault for getting taken advantage. So you shouldn't be making claims like that if you don't want someone pointing out how there are people like children who get taken advantage of.
But yeah you believe its your fault if something happens to you
There's always two sides to something. Nobody is completely innocent. Everyone is guilty of their part. Not accepting your faults will get you nowhere in life
Yes pedophiles are horrible and to blame for their own actions, but this isn't about pedophiles
You can still apply that to pedophiles and say its the kids fault for getting molested right? So maybe you shouldn't make claims that anyone can easy point flaws in it. and no its not everyone fault for other people's behaviour. Stop excusing assholes for being assholes.
people these days dont like to take responsibility
I couldn't agree more. I see it everyday
Wow this is gr8
Thank you
Great take.
Thank you. This is only the second one I've written and they've both been promoted. I'd like to be able to write more, but I don't have WiFi for my laptop at home
equating mgtow to feminism is not an honest thing to do, mgtow has no political power.
Bingo. Moreover, if Left feminism went away, so would MGTOW. A backlash does not happen when there isn't anything to backlash against.
Again, this MyTake was not about politics. I addressed this to two communities on GAG who have similar failed ideologies on dating and make it a practice to attack the opposite gender online. If you want to talk about politics, you're welcome to write your own Take
you dont realize that mgtow is a lifestyle like how to deal with living with cancer where as feminism is about how to change the legal and social situation to conform to your likes. there is a huge difference.
This isn't about the "lifestyle." This is to tell guys who think it's okay to bash women online who've done nothing to them why they need to stop being so bitter and blaming women for their problems. Feminists on this site also blame men for their problems, so I addressed it to them as well. If you read MyTake, you would understand that
well if a women online promotes a toxic mindset then i commend these guys for speaking up.
Men on this site promote a toxic mindset; women on this site promote a toxic mindset. Neither of the groups I addressed this to are sticking up for anything or anybody except their own bitterness and failures. There's nothing worth commending about misogyny and misandry
I don't know men are just adjusting to how women have become. its that simple. for men to change women have to change first.
50 years ago women were saying the exact same thing but with the genders switched
If you go online to bash anyone, it is entirely your fault and nobody else's. Both men and women played a part in this pathetic gender war we see today, not mainly women and not mainly men
If men want women to change, then men have to treat women right. If women want men to change, then they have to treat men right. Nobody is going to get anywhere blaming anybody but themselves. Doing otherwise only breeds hostility and extremism
wrong. women simply need to change or this will only get worse. laws needto change too.
No I'm not wrong. Both men and women need to change if they want to put this gender war to rest. Blaming one side for a of the problems only creates anger and resentment
Again​, this isn't about laws or politics. If that's something you're concerned about, you can go deal work it, but this is not the proper forum
I'm not MGTOW but it's hard to sit back and watch feminism unfairly influence, manipulate and dictate their views in politics, public education, Hollywood and the law. Guys from my dads generation wrote it off as annoyance. However ignoring the problem didn't work.
@somewheresomeway
If you want to fix the laws, go ahead, but you're not going to fix anything by demonizing the opposite gender online. If you want the laws to change, you have to get petitions signed and submit bills to your representatives. I write feminists off as an annoyance and that's​worked pretty well for me so far
Women can complain about "gender inequality" and they look like "social justice" advocates. Men who do this look like "bitches".
It is not a fair playing field, never has been.
@somewheresomeway
The genders are equal under the law, but not in our physical and mental capacities. Our brains and bodies are much different
Life isn't fair. You only get what you can handle in life, so if you feel like your life isn't fair, that's because you're choosing not to handle it
Yes I agree there are biological differences in men and women that give us different ROLES in life.
But this 3rd wave feminism wants a ROLE REVERSAL. It's insane but it's getting marketed to is via the mass media, Hollywood, public education, etc
@somewheresomeway
Yeah... that's why I addressed this to them in the first place
well these "feminists" are getting heard. They are getting in front of cameras. They have political power. They have INFLUENCE is the name of "equality".
MGTOW means "Men going their own way". It's a rejection of government, public education and media misandric influence. Do I agree with MGTOW? On some things yes, but others no. But it has nowhere near the sheer power and hateful influence/impact that 3rd wave feminism has. Professors are spewing feminist garbage while getting TAXPAYER MONEY to enable them to do so.
you just can't compare them apples to apples
@somewheresomeway
I'm not. This has nothing to do with politics. This is about bitterness and hatred keeping them from living fulfilling lives and how their negative behavior on sites like this is only making things worse
And I'm not comparing anything here
I agree that complaining and whining is getting old. Being I know that crying about "inequality" makes me look pathetic.
But when it comes to radical feminism I just like to write them off as misguided, bitter asinine women. But that's what my father's generation did. Ignore them. Did it work? Nope. Look at what they have done to our culture. That's why I'm debating if it really is better to openly fight back (MGTOW).
@somewheresomeway
It's better to defend your stance and fight back honestly. Martin Luther King held peaceful protests, so his point was finally heard. If he had been violent or demonized white men, then white men would never have sympathized with him
No we shouldn't give into the whims of hardcore feminists or MGTOWs, but there are better ways of fighting them than insulting them. And insulting people who aren't a part of those hate groups is only going to make you look bad
I wanted to believe that for the longest time. The old saying is "what you resist persists". But again it wasn't like my dads generations was marching around and screaming at people with MGTOW signs (although feminists sure as hell were). I don't believe passive resistance works anymore. Feminism has inflitrated the very structure of our western society.
Am I going to join some MGTOW organization? Most likely not. But the animosity towards a growing misandric society is growing and I'm not the only one. And even some women agree with me about this crap.
@somewheresomeway
You can still have an aggressive resistance without being violent or belittling. If you cross that line you're no longer a resistance and turning yourself into an enemy
It's acceptable to have that animosity towards the hardcore feminists fort things such as glorifying false rape claims, but maintaining that animosity towards people who don't agree with them will also put you in the same category. The whole fighting fire with fire theory will only turn you into fire, and the rest of society will have to find a bucket of water somewhere to put you out with. You will go down in history as the same as feminists
Well I'm not saying that MGTOW is going to be violent or aggressive (is there even example of that?)
The question is what can men do? What we did in the past (ignore it) hasn't solved the problem. It's time to speak up.
@somewheresomeway
My experience on this site is MGTOWs calling me a prostitute even though I'm a virgin and a gold-digger even though I'd never even been on a date until a couple months ago. I certainly don't use men like they claim and I believe marriage is forever, so I'd never divorce someone I married unless he cheated on or hit me
That's your example of aggression. If that were in real life, they probably would've been violent to o
No that's not the question. That has nothing to do with this MyTake and is completely off topic. If you want to ask that question, you can ask it somewhere else
I completely agree with your take that radicalism is stupid and even dangerous. But feminism is a real establishment that has done real damage to the traditional family, male self esteem and gender relations in general. MGTOW is only a recent idea with very little power.
I'm sorry about those morons that called you a prostitute/gold digger. I don't just assume that about women until I see their actions.
Done.
@somewheresomeway
Thank you
And I agree
Nice take
Thank you
In other words, it's always your fault even when it really isn't.
Agreed.