Why I Don't Believe Catcalling is Such a Big Deal (Page 3)
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It feels flattering when it happens. Most times the guys aren't ones you'd like to engage since it isn't classy to catcall a woman and a guy with class wouldn't catcall... but... flattering nonetheless.
I think most women are ok with complements.
But being shouted at in the street can be intimidating. And its not really a compliment if your just shouting at someone that you want to fuck them.
They seem to be the ones that women are bothered about. At least from what I have heard/read.
Unfortunately, because of this, it becomes a minefield just saying something nice to someone, because you think they might react badly due to the amount of times someone has said something more aggressive or intimidating to them.
"But they do it to!"
Something a toddler would yell.
"Its a compliment"
Hah, back handed compliments are too but they still hurt.
Sarcastic compliments are compliments too, but they still put you down.
Not all compliments are designed to compliment.
"Toughen up"
Im sorry are you living under a rock? This generation doesn't know what "toughen up" is. XD
Catcalling is literally saying it. I realise men are allowed to have sexual thoughts; they're not allowed to harass me telling me how hard they are if I make it clear I'm uncomfortable. "Women won't understand", no honey, you're the one who doesn't understand. Really? A whole fucking gender is wrong about how they feel themselves?
Men can and do get cat called too.
@Wwwyzzerdd ok, more of a reason why catcalling should be considered a problem. Why is it that you believe men sharing a probelm with women makes it worth not trying to solve? If men share a problem, it is even worse, because it means there's literally no one who isn't influenced by it. "Men have it too" isn't an argument, if anything is a point in favour of my thesis.
I didn't see it as a problem when I was catcalled and I feel that women are overreacting to this.
@Wwwyzzerdd you didn't see it as a problem so the experience of men and women who are greatly uncomfortable with this is invalid? That's a pretty failing logic.
You want everyone else to conform because a few people can't live their life in their safe space? I bet you're the type to call the cops for rape when a guy says hi to you.
@Wwwyzzerdd you know catcalling doesn't stop to that, do you? Since you know so much about it. Here's how it goes most times: someone shouts shit like "come here give some sugar!"; she ignores; best of cases, he insults her, planting in her mind that not responding to male demands of pleasure make her less worthy of a woman; sometimes, actually a lot of times, they follow her. I'm not kidding. They actually follow her. And if you read stories of women who have actually been catcalled instead of making up the experience in your head, it's pretty fucking scary. Didn't know insults and stalking were about a safe space. And look! I managed to find an argument against your thesis without pulling out the old and tired I-don't-know-what-to-say-now-but-I'm-right-anyway-so-I'll-insult-her sarcasm card.
Yawn. Catcalling is not synonomous with rape. Rapists are the cause of rape, stop muddling the two together. You just lumped a bunch of criminals into this and then tried to make that synonymous with catcalling. You're comparing incomparables. If a catcaller rapes someone, that doesn't make them a catcaller: It means they are a rapist!
Grow up. Seriously. Half the shit that's been said to me was WAAAY worse than your examples and you know what I did? I got over it and carried on.
@Wwwyzzerdd umm.. where did you get rape? Seriously, mind giving a tenth of a second of attention to the conversations you carry without acting like a little entitled bitch? Because it's annoying to keep up an actual discussion with a kid. I said catcalling often turns into stalking. I literally never said rape. It is a fact that it often turns into stalking. And i don't give a shit about what you've been through, because the world doesn't revolve around you. Surprise! There's people who kill themselves because they get called faggots, there's women who grow up with an unhealthy conception of relationships because they get catcalled since they are 12. But somehow, you think it's perfectly normal for a 40 years old to make explicit sexual comments on what is basically a kid. Because it's so important that men have the right to let other females whom they don't know know they want to fuck them. And by the way. It's called harassment.
Yawn.
I generally agree with you about catcalling. I don't find it complimentary realy, a complete stranger saying something to me just isn't complimentary no matter what they say. But I do find it useful when guys catcall. Its like immediate Darwinism. Sorts some of the chaff out right away with no effort on my part.
You making that remark about darwin puts the NAZI into FEMINAZISM
This is the first sign of a lack of empathy.. It's not about what YOU think.. It's about what the person who experiences it thinks. If they don't like it they don't have to explain to you why. All you have to do is value everyone's comfort zone and space which isn't a hard thing to do.
I will never understand women who dont like cat calling but then go freak out about never getting called beautiful yet. 90% of the cat calls are literally guys calling her "sexy, beautiful or hotie."
Its like sometimes girls are just flat out delusional to the point they are literally the definition in some cases "a disaster." As in there isn't a way to help them unless they just learn to accept things.
So because females do it too you think it's acceptable?
And that it should be taken as a compliment coming from a stranger? If at first and all I'm good for is being a sexy dick then I can't take it as a compliment at all.
It has nothing to do with to toughen up but more like showing basic respects in the first place.
https://i.imgur.com/TWgvzFt.gif
The take is about me not thinking its that big of a deal, did i say it was ok?
I'm bigger in two areas thsn some grown women but since I am a child people of both genders will just call me pretty or beautiful and I just smile and thank them. That is fine but if anybody said something disgusting or flashed somebody, that is not okay.
Thats correct
Claims women like it, women do it too and then says that 100% of women would disagree with him no matter how hard he would try to convince them. LMAO
Some of you guys have never been catcalled and followed (yes this does happen). If some giant dude that just got out of prison started doing this with you, im pretty sure you guys would have a different opinion.
I'm considered somewhat attractive and the closest thing to catcalling that women do it honk and look as they drive by. One even waved. Not shouting how they wanna fuck me.
"The only difference between some men & women when it comes to catcalling is women catcall, but they say it to themselves. "
I'm sorry, what?
No, catcalling is not okay. Is degrading to say the least.
I'm not sure you're the right person to say it's okay or not.
women catcall and much worse, they make disgusting remarks regarding mens appearance. You are also not the right person to say whether it is ok or not.
You know, I laugh at how many women on here think men are intimated by them, but the this take clearly show it to be the other way around.
The one girl who has enough stones to throw sass back at you is the one you should wife.
I don't know why I read so much about it online. Who are those rude people "catcalling" everyday? I've only seen it happen from cowards passing by on a car while walking, but who would matter their opinions?
Some merit here. You should spar with the other little cookie that doesn't like catcalling.
The thing is, women don't like attention from a guy unless she thinks he's hot. Then she's insulted if he doesn't pay her no attention. So you're right, you can't win with them either way - it's just all about the FEELZ.
Here ya go...
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a48922-i-m-a-guy-i-hate-catcalling-women
He 'hates catcalling'. LOL And he's gotta be like fourteen or fifteen or something. A real beta-chump.
NON promiscuous girls don't like catcalling.
HOWEVER... I can't understand how being called sexy or talking sexual stuff to PROMISCUOUS WOMEN is insulting but having sex with them is ok. If you are willing to have sex with strangers (random guys who view you as sex objects) then why can't you tolerated being called as sexy?
Yes if guys want only sex from you then they view you as sex objects? Can you deny this? Lol
Calling a girl sexy Is calling her an object?
i was talking about ons
I've been told to ignore catcalling by friends in my life. And on one occasion, when I did ignore it instead of moving away from the people yelling stuff, one of the men came and tried feeling me up, with his friends laughing.
I should've taken it as a compliment instead of sexual harassment, and molestation, right? :) Yeah, I should've thanked him because it was such an amazing boost to my ego and sense of safety and well-being.
I only read the beginning of your story
Catcalling and touching aren't the same thing
I'm not defending touching.
I'm saying catcalling is something that happened before it. That it's a sign to be aware of. That it makes women feel unsafe and not complimented when people catcall because of it.
AND MEN AND CHILDREN as well as women. Women aren't the centre of attention. Women aren't victims, some of them try to become victims.
I know you mean well by this MyTake but catcalling is very invasive and embarrassing. It's something you can only learn about if it has happened to you.
When you're headed to Church with you parents and girls drive by saying "Nice Ass Boi, let me feel you up daddy". It makes you want to crawl away and hide in a corner, it's humiliating. It is not a compliment.
When you mess with the wrong woman and she messes you up for harassing her, you might think it's a big deal then.
No ones going to catcall some muscular dyke.
@Section she might just be sexy crazy bitch with a gun
You can’t think you’re the only one who carries a gun
That mindset will have you 6 feet under very quickly
Plus let’s play you’re scenario out
I cat call you, “Hey, nice ass”
You pull out a gun, threaten me or shoot me
That’s already a charge against you in court.
Your only defense would be “he said my ass was nice”
So you shoot me, that’s life in prison or possibly execution.
Your*
Women have every advantage in the court system. Not wise to mess with us in that department.
You're gonna shoot me for catcalling & think youd actually win the case?
Lol k.
I'm not talking about me or you, silly. I'm just saying maybe some other crazy bitch would. Me? I'd prefer to deal with cat callers by embarrassing the daylights out of him, making him wish he'd never open his fat mouth, or if he was really cocky, I'd unleash some psych warfare and make him wish he'd never been born, and I wouldn't even have to lay a finger on him or even talk to him to do this. I could do it without him even ever knowing my name.
not harassment and she should go to jail for messing him up.
@Section good comment
@martinj Hey I never said it was right, I am just saying that it's true, so calm down. You'll never get to touch me.
Compliments aren't actually the same thing as catcalling. Catcalling can make people feel threatened and unsafe, which is absolutely not okay. And if women do it too it's still just as wrong.
dude you said it yourself. women think it with themself. and men shout it.
when you think it to yourself there is no harm no one knows. when you shout it say it whistle it gives extra attention to the subject and that is privacy invasion. it is not a compliment. and even so you need a permission to compliment someone...