I read the first couple sentences and could actually feel brain cells dying.
Hatepigism is not, and never has been, about 'equality'. It's all about special privileges for women. Always has been. It also is, and always has been, about hating and envying men.
Ah you didn't get the point. I am anti-feminist and was demonstrating my knowledge of their culture. I keep getting this, "then you don't understand feminism" this was a demonstration that I do. My next step is to ask them to reciprocate and point out the main points of the MRM in a non judgmental way. Keep your eyes open. This is going to be interesting.
They won't. They'll accuse you of MUH-SOGGY-KNEE!!!, racism, being a rapist, being a pedo, you name it.
Lefty types never engage on the merits of ideas, because their 'ideas' don't *have* any merits. They simply attack their enemies, and most of their enemies are such simpering cucks that they'll try to defend themselves against the accusation, thereby allowing the lefty to dominate the discussion.
It's SOP for lefties. They've been doing it since Marx put pen to paper.
MRA's are going about this all wrong. They either try to copy the hatepigs, and bitch about how bad men have it, or engage them in dialogue based in facts, reason, and logic.
Neither of those will work.
You can't out-fem the fems. No one cares when men stamp their feet and cry about how bad they have it. You're supposed to "man up", accept that you are a disposable nobody, and get back to work slaving away to provide for some ungrateful bitch.
Nor can you engage lefties using logic and reason. Their entire existence is based on Feelz. It doesn't matter how many times their bullshit is disproven, nor how many people they've killed before they were stopped, all that matters is they get Goodfeelz by robbing the productive to give to the parasite class. Cue Ralph Wiggum "I'm helping!"
Men achieve societal change in two ways:
1) burning the society that offends them to the ground, and stacking the bodies of their enemies 2) walking away and allowing said society to fuck itself in the ass to death. This has happened before (Rome and the Soviet Union come to mind immediately, and Japan is going through it right now. Whether they listen and fix the problems, or double down on what caused the problems, remains to be seen).
You want to fix a society that views you as nothing more than a walking ATM, sperm bank, and expendable work donkey, you pick one of those two ways, and remember: War to the knife, knife to the hilt.
um the wage gap is fake they dont take into account the career the overtime the effort and baically anything. why should a woman thats been in a position 3 years less than a male that doesn't work overtime be paid the same...
Ok first off, even if you don't like feminism, much applause for the approach. Very respectful and different than 90% of anti feminists as shown by the mens section. Im shocked though that you didn't do this anonymously as usually this topic attracts the stupidest of the stupid to comment.
The next part of the conversation www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2675429-feminists-your-turn Most everyone here knows that I am a Men's rights activist, and I did get one "traitor" but honestly who cares. This is an experiment to see if we can start a conversation.
Men's rights are men's rights. It doesn't have much to do with the push for gender equality, if you accept the premise that women are disadvantaged in society due to the patriarchy. I don't think there is a conversation to be had between feminists and MRAs. You do you and we will do us.
I don't have the time or energy to separate the rare wheat from the shit pile of chaff. So I shop offshore. My version of MGTOW. Feminist Derangement Syndrome is unknowingly supporting The Browning of America. Diversity I can embrace (a lot!)
1st and 2nd wave feminism made total sense and I'm totally on board with those ideas. That's the rights to vote, not get beat, equality, etc.
Here's where the bag of tricks have come into play, 3rd wave. It's original purpose is to challenge the norms of sexual roles... which is also fine to a certain extent. If a woman wants to spend her life setting husband and kids as second to career the way a man traditionally has... do it. My beef with this form is that the loudest voices in the movement come from that group of women. The man isn't needed, is a weak man-child, or isn't wanted at all... kids, same thing... they'd rather pay someone else to raise them or not have them at all. Again, fine, but to each their own. Not all women want that and thus, they are not 50% in more demanding fields. Which is normal and fine... but not for the feminist. Equality of outcome, must be, equal opportunity is not enough... and I don't agree with that concept.
Let's just look at the Australian army... oh no, 50% of their military force are not women... so they decided to stop hiring men until it's fixed.
Now in truth, women tend to want to do other things like have babies and spend time with family rather than get deployed for 9 months out of the year... so this equality of outcome concept of there should be 1 woman for every man in the military... well... it's going to be hard to find that many woman for every occupation out there to make everything 50/50. The women themselves simply don't want to and choose not to on their own... it's not "the patriarchy" oppressing them.
It's so important, yet nobody is going to bat an eye at female majority jobs not having just as many men as women... like in the grade school education system. Or... maybe those poor women are being oppressed into being teachers rather than coal miners. That damn patriarchy keeping women out of coal mines is wrong... WRONG!!! LOLZ
Hmmm well I don't know what the issue with the last one was then.
Though I never claimed all were bad just that most we're either extremists or that they didn't fully understand what they are supporting. Which is true when you look at what the group as a whole has done and is known for doing.
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I read the first couple sentences and could actually feel brain cells dying.
Hatepigism is not, and never has been, about 'equality'. It's all about special privileges for women. Always has been. It also is, and always has been, about hating and envying men.
Ah you didn't get the point. I am anti-feminist and was demonstrating my knowledge of their culture. I keep getting this, "then you don't understand feminism" this was a demonstration that I do. My next step is to ask them to reciprocate and point out the main points of the MRM in a non judgmental way. Keep your eyes open. This is going to be interesting.
They won't. They'll accuse you of MUH-SOGGY-KNEE!!!, racism, being a rapist, being a pedo, you name it.
Lefty types never engage on the merits of ideas, because their 'ideas' don't *have* any merits. They simply attack their enemies, and most of their enemies are such simpering cucks that they'll try to defend themselves against the accusation, thereby allowing the lefty to dominate the discussion.
It's SOP for lefties. They've been doing it since Marx put pen to paper.
MRA's are going about this all wrong. They either try to copy the hatepigs, and bitch about how bad men have it, or engage them in dialogue based in facts, reason, and logic.
Neither of those will work.
You can't out-fem the fems. No one cares when men stamp their feet and cry about how bad they have it. You're supposed to "man up", accept that you are a disposable nobody, and get back to work slaving away to provide for some ungrateful bitch.
A thought experiment, that's all. Let's see where this goes.
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Nor can you engage lefties using logic and reason. Their entire existence is based on Feelz. It doesn't matter how many times their bullshit is disproven, nor how many people they've killed before they were stopped, all that matters is they get Goodfeelz by robbing the productive to give to the parasite class. Cue Ralph Wiggum "I'm helping!"
Men achieve societal change in two ways:
1) burning the society that offends them to the ground, and stacking the bodies of their enemies
2) walking away and allowing said society to fuck itself in the ass to death. This has happened before (Rome and the Soviet Union come to mind immediately, and Japan is going through it right now. Whether they listen and fix the problems, or double down on what caused the problems, remains to be seen).
You want to fix a society that views you as nothing more than a walking ATM, sperm bank, and expendable work donkey, you pick one of those two ways, and remember: War to the knife, knife to the hilt.
Well, I can respect that. I do experiments that I'm pretty sure about the outcome of also.
um the wage gap is fake they dont take into account the career the overtime the effort and baically anything. why should a woman thats been in a position 3 years less than a male that doesn't work overtime be paid the same...
I know, it is a red herring.
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Ok first off, even if you don't like feminism, much applause for the approach. Very respectful and different than 90% of anti feminists as shown by the mens section. Im shocked though that you didn't do this anonymously as usually this topic attracts the stupidest of the stupid to comment.
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Most everyone here knows that I am a Men's rights activist, and I did get one "traitor" but honestly who cares. This is an experiment to see if we can start a conversation.
Link lead to a 404 error dude.
Men's rights are men's rights. It doesn't have much to do with the push for gender equality, if you accept the premise that women are disadvantaged in society due to the patriarchy.
I don't think there is a conversation to be had between feminists and MRAs. You do you and we will do us.
I don't have the time or energy to separate the rare wheat from the shit pile of chaff. So I shop offshore. My version of MGTOW. Feminist Derangement Syndrome is unknowingly supporting The Browning of America. Diversity I can embrace (a lot!)
No one said they are all bad people. Look at Bumble, it is "feminist Tinder" and the app is amazing. By far my favourite dating app so far.
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We don't believe you. Work more complain less = Man.
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People who believe feminist are horrible people don't even know what a feminist is.
So what is a feminist? If you lead me to the dictionary... you're being a idiot.
@D_Bone_Steak I'm trying to say I agree with you. Being a feminist does not mean they hate men:)
1st and 2nd wave feminism made total sense and I'm totally on board with those ideas. That's the rights to vote, not get beat, equality, etc.
Here's where the bag of tricks have come into play, 3rd wave. It's original purpose is to challenge the norms of sexual roles... which is also fine to a certain extent. If a woman wants to spend her life setting husband and kids as second to career the way a man traditionally has... do it. My beef with this form is that the loudest voices in the movement come from that group of women. The man isn't needed, is a weak man-child, or isn't wanted at all... kids, same thing... they'd rather pay someone else to raise them or not have them at all. Again, fine, but to each their own. Not all women want that and thus, they are not 50% in more demanding fields. Which is normal and fine... but not for the feminist. Equality of outcome, must be, equal opportunity is not enough... and I don't agree with that concept.
Let's just look at the Australian army... oh no, 50% of their military force are not women... so they decided to stop hiring men until it's fixed.
Now in truth, women tend to want to do other things like have babies and spend time with family rather than get deployed for 9 months out of the year... so this equality of outcome concept of there should be 1 woman for every man in the military... well... it's going to be hard to find that many woman for every occupation out there to make everything 50/50. The women themselves simply don't want to and choose not to on their own... it's not "the patriarchy" oppressing them.
It's so important, yet nobody is going to bat an eye at female majority jobs not having just as many men as women... like in the grade school education system. Or... maybe those poor women are being oppressed into being teachers rather than coal miners. That damn patriarchy keeping women out of coal mines is wrong... WRONG!!! LOLZ
Um, I'm confused. What exactly is it that you were trying to say?
Very well put. Respectable opinion.
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I'm not really a feminist.
Most of them are either bad or just haven o clue what they're actually supporting.
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Your link doesn't exist just to let you know lol.
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2675429-feminists-your-turn This one does, interesting...
Hmmm well I don't know what the issue with the last one was then.
Though I never claimed all were bad just that most we're either extremists or that they didn't fully understand what they are supporting. Which is true when you look at what the group as a whole has done and is known for doing.
I consider myself a feminist, but I'm always up for a good debate.
They may not be bad people but they are all just selfish hypocrites, just the same way MRAs are.
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Feminism is the idea that the issues of both sexes can be solved by focusing on one of them.
Egalitarianism or gtfo is my motto on this subject.
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I never take feminists seriously. If one were to argue about their view i would laugh in their face.
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true its something difrent pepole identify with and interpret in there own ways
The part about the average salary is misleading, as well as the "glass ceilings" for advancing in the corporate world.
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That link isn't working, a 404 comes up.
Like many good ideas with good intentions, there are people who take it too far.
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Today... in the West... all feminists are bad people.
So what was the purpose of this?