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My thing is that the weakness in all movements are the radicals/extremists. Anti-racists are sometimes so perplexed as to why they're even being compared on the same level with the KKK, but when more anti racists are committing acts of actual violence than the KKK, it's a recipe for disaster.
Extremists in anti-racism groups and feminism have turned me away from both, despite me wanting to support marginalized groups. So, I'll do it from a distance
This i can agree with.. these days feminism (a very vocal minority are the man hating type) Sadly though Feminists in general do absolutely NOTHING to silence that type either or even distance them selves from it in any way.
I don't see any difference here? It all comes down to the same basic thing: Which is sky high divorce rates triggered because women are more married to the corporations that they work for than to the husbands that they had children with. You don't seem see exploitation and corporate corruption when it kicks you right in the ass! Susan B. Anthony was a fucking cancer!
It's the pendulum effect in my opinion. When trying to create equality, it's so easy to go overboard and simply reverse the bias.
I don't think you know what feminism is but... I have to agree that Marie Curie is a very good example of a good woman. And that getting naked isn't.
Far too little, far too late. The brand name has been damaged beyond repair. Feminists have zero credibility in society. You may as well just come up with a new name for yourselves. Feminism belongs to the frauds and fanatics now. The rest of you are too timid to get it back, and why would you even want it at this point?
Thank you -- but I'm afraid that not too many agree with you.
Most people in the West are pro equality. Most would consider themselves feminists by the definition of 1920... but today, most actually stay away from being seen as a feminist, and that says a lot about the current feminist movement.
Feminism has ALWAYS!!! Been those crazy fucks that ruin shit for everyone else.. ALWAYS! The only thing that's changed is society at large is becoming more aware of this fact.
People who believe this: "The belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities. It is the theory of the political, economic and social equality of the sexes."
Are useful idiots who have swallowed the lies.
If I wanted to hear from an asshole, Iโd fart.
I'm not being an asshole. What I said is genuinely true, why not look into it instead of just blowing me off and calling me names?
Also, "useful idiot" is not an insult it's a political term for people who believe the propaganda supplied by oppressive tyrants who say 1 thing and do another. In the case of Feminism it is 100% relevant.
Check out Christina Hoff Summers, life time Liberal Feminist and critic, she talks about how what we see now was present in the 1970's as well as now.
George Soros, a major modern Feminist Billionar who is literally a Nazi that gassed jews and considers those days some of the best of his life.
Simone de Bovoir, Founding Feminist most Feminist principles and theores are built upon her ideology. She was a Nazi propagandist in France in, Pro Pedophilia, Defends hatred against men, pro abortion, denies bilogical origin of sexual differences etc..
Then there is also the WKKK. They broke from the Klan as it was becoming less politically popular and joined Feminism instead, they changed their threat narrative from and anti black one to an anti male narrarive instead and have had a large influencial impact on Feminism since the 1st. wave.
I think this is the book on the subject, the women who wrote it did it through many first hand accounts of the women involved before they died.
www.outono.net/.../
Also this is by no means an exhaustive list, only the very tipy top of the ice berg.
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um okay... So much for a civil discussion.. Guess that's what I should expect from a 17 year old, though I do try not to judge people by their age.
This was fun.
It's pretty common for social movements to be hijacked or distorted, and that seems to be what has happened with feminism.
I definitely like your take! it was really true
my only question is what so bad about not wanting to shave why does that make me not feminist?
Thank You, I didn't say that, I said just because you don't want to shave it doesn't mean you are feminist
Ohhhh ok, glad we cleared that ๐
There are good nice feminists and horrible bad feminazis.
Good nice feminists nicely ask men to give them a few rights more.
Horrible bad feminazis nag and protest and say ugly things , try to TAKE more rights.
if all feminists were like marie curie i'd be the most radical feminist and the human civilization would be having intergalactic travels already... .
THANK YOU. That's my point!
You want to show to the world you are valuable? DO IT. Don't start a fucking war against windmills!
I agree, 98% of guys on this site have extreme views on what feminism is and don't see a middle-ground
I can see the difference, and I believe itโs a good idea but has a name that has been tarnished by these others who claim to be feminist.
It wasn't even called feminism before, it was the women's suffrage movement led by not feminists but suffragettes.
Also we should not treat men and women the same because they are not the same. Equal and identical are not the same thing.
I like how you posted free the nipple pic😂😂
Great take.
Exactly, people should stop mistaking femi-nazis for feminists. Fantastic mytake 😎😎
The problem with that is the "femi-nazis" don't call themselves "femi-nazis," they call themselves feminist; in a group like this the loudest voice is the one that gets identified.
@ScoutLeader107 Well, they falsely call themselves "feminists", just like Stalinists falsely call themselves "communists". The loudest voice is usually the voice of an idiot.
True feminists support gender equality, not female supremacy.
Misandry and many of the other problems with 'modern feminism' have been part of the movement for a long time.
You know what really pisses me off?
How media has bastardized my view of women by promoting this perverted idea of feminism.
Nowadays I can't think of a woman only thing or a woman as a lead without thinking that something about belittling men was behind it. I don't want to think like that! I don't want to view women as godless harpies seeking to tear down everything related to masculinity! It kills me inside that third wave "feminism" has developed this subconscious bias in me.
I hear you. I never cared about race either, until some assholes started calling me "white boy", and I encountered some legitimate, mainstream black ethno-nationalists like Tariq Nasheed. Same with my sex.
The horrible thing is that I never wanted a part in this, but at the end of the day, I will have to either take a side and abandon my moral principles, or be stuck in the middle between two Walls of Death.
https://youtu.be/Ga1WyWsxD6Y